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Post by stregatta on May 22, 2010 12:12:43 GMT -5
It looks like Noah is going to cause trouble for Reid at the hospital, and then he will leave, and possibly learn the error of all of his ways off screen, and then return. I'm fine with the writers giving Luke and Reid a chance to see if they can build a relationship, but that spoiler makes it sound like no time will be devoted to letting us see Noah grow and change, and if the inevitable happens, and Luke and Noah reunite, it will be just like the start of their relationship, they will be an insta couple, with no buildup, it will just be something that happens out of thin air. Ouch & Wow for the new spoilers (thanks MD!) I'm glad to see things finally taking a fast pace!! & I'm curious about the final "challenge" that Noah wants to throw to Reid!! Another punch or who knows?? BTW Caitlin I guess it's like you told, unfortunately Noah's character is so difficult to follow, to even see him properly on-screen, etc... Even if I'm glad in this case to see a building of Lure alone (because Noah somehow was always in the middle ), for watching them struggling as a couple & if they romantically can work, I'm afraid too that, if writers will decide to make Nuke closer again & so on, all the good things that I wish to see unfolding within the show, will be solved instead off-air, & we'll have Nuke again in their romantic bubble smiling & holding hands, forgetting all issues, etc.... Hoping for real to be WRONG!!
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Post by stregatta on May 22, 2010 9:13:51 GMT -5
When Reid is unsure, he also has a tendency to become defensive and start slinging insults. He's a complex character, but he's not a saint. I think someone already mentioned it, but it is a little disconcerting that even though Noah started having a voice this week, it's like his words just came out of thin air. The groundwork wasn't laid for the changes that we saw in him this week, so again, it look like his words and actions were plot driven and not character driven. Hopefully, that will change as we get further into the storyline. Yep, I've noticed it as well...But I guess, like others told before, that since Noah seemed since the start, intended to follow a "bigger idea" behind, set by the writers (obviously it's simply my opinion), which will lead to a something we still don't know...I guess it's all in the average normal writing here: he needed to step behind Luke to make him realinzing something else... I agree with your previously saying that he was a bit too forced to make break up endless time the 2 love birds of Nuke, but perhaps it has done on purpose, to underline this point for a reason (I don't know yet, probably both Reid_role & the need of showing Noah's suffering in being lonely & hopefully also moving on to something else in life as an aim, or even another person; all ways are open at the moment I guess, we'll see ...) Today I've read about the Emmy nominations for soaps, & I've had a good laugh at ATWT's hair-stylist nominated among the best 1s...Oh boy, if he doesn't win, after having changes Van's hair 100 times at least, there's no justice left in this world at all!! ;D (By now Luke's hair would deserve their own spin-off show for real, LOL ) PS_Ok Macari & Bonobo, my bad for having misunderstood, I don't like making controversy either, so let's simply enjoy the show, ciao!
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 19:45:04 GMT -5
Macari wrote in her lovely post, more or less, that we-Lure fans want to belittle ("to destroy"?! ) the memory & the meaning of what Nuke-love has been (& still is), or you're saying (more than once), than we have a sort of "prejudice", a bias towards the other side ... Ok, perhaps some fan could have been against Noah/JS & all the rest, but I & others have been pertty calm about it, simply saying aloud an own opinion, with max respect... Particularly about Macari's point regarding "fans should believe what writers decide about characters, without complaining & stick by it" Uh, I don’t remember writing that, and that definitely wasn’t my point. I’ll be damned before I dictate to fans – no matter what their preferences are – what to do, especially in this manner. I didn’t realize my post could be so open to interpretation, sweeping generalization and extrapolation. I think I’ll just leave it at that. Macari don't worry, everyone is free to give his interpretation, sorry if I'm aware of not having quoted your exact words, but simply what was my perception of them & Bonobo's 1s...I've get this kind of feeling that most of the times old Nuke-fans say that it's ok this new SL, & they're having fun & all, that even it has brought Noah's role alive again (more Nuke-screen time), but at the same time, Lure-symphatizers had better not "claim too much" from this plot, because old fans have a sort of moral right toward the finale... I think that, no matter what, writers will have the last word, & I'll accept whatever will come along, but since also Lure is now in the current script as Nuke still is, we can all politely & freely talk about our faves (or less fav)...That's it
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 17:51:57 GMT -5
It's only reducible if people feel the need to do that. For some others, that isn't the case. Regardless, it's all a matter of opinion, not fact in assuming a general aggregated qualitative and/or emotional response to either storyline, assuming personal preference or bias in the opinion notwithstanding . Macari wrote a lovely post on this topic already about the need of some to ridicule the Nuke storyline in the last few days in this thread so I defer to it in order to not continue being off-topic since we should be discussing the show and characters and not others fans... Sorry Bonobo, but I think I've the right, like Shameless already said, to politely disagree here...Macari wrote in her lovely post, more or less, that we-Lure fans want to belittle ("to destroy"?! ) the memory & the meaning of what Nuke-love has been (& still is), or you're saying (more than once), than we have a sort of "prejudice", a bias towards the other side ... Ok, perhaps some fan could have been against Noah/JS & all the rest, but I & others have been pertty calm about it, simply saying aloud an own opinion, with max respect... Particularly about Macari's point regarding "fans should believe what writers decide about characters, without complaining & stick by it", frankly it's not my style: I've all the right to disagree, as I've already said, they've to deserve my view, passion & dedication, if not there're always other shows to watch. Last but not least, this is supposed to be a triangle &we all know it: hence it's obvious Noah will pop up again & stronger on his ex, & Luke has already this double feelings/ love for both the partners... But this is the beauty & the fun of it, if really Noah was supposed to be the 1 & only from the start "simply" because he has been the 1st, regardless of the rest...Sorry but this story is already DEAD! & as if for a moment...Then how could Luke even feel something genuine & different at all from this previous "total" love?? & why he didn't manage to answer Lily's tricky question in the last ep.?? I guess for real that all the options are possible...
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 12:39:51 GMT -5
I am not sure that is wholly accurate. To prolong the metaphor, I think Luke let Noah know that field has been opened to more entrants and he's now receptive to other contestants in the competition but not that Noah's not even considered a competitor at all anymore. Shameless is right IMO & so do you... Besides, I've got the feeling from that Nuke's conversation at the pond, that Luke has been interrupted while he was explaining exactly that he started to "have a look around" him, etc... I don't think at all that Noah is out of the competition, it's just that Luke is changed as a person in these past months, & Noah only now is realizing all things happened when he was too focused on himself to really be aware of the rest...
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 11:57:52 GMT -5
MD you're the best! Thanks for all this news ... What do you think about this development regarding Reid with Luke?? Practically it seems that Luke for the moment, probably also thanks to "Noah's blessing" (only before knowing of the hot affair, of course! ) wanted to move on with Reid, & after the love story went public, they're starting to suffer all kind of consequencies... BTW I really can't understand why all this drama within the hospital-rules ...Perhaps it's also because Noah won't fully recover from his situation, & for the fact that Luke is a sort of business-chief of the new wing, & has to work with Reid?!
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 11:54:54 GMT -5
By the way- agree with both you and Stregatta about the coming out story and other gay cliches. I am so over it in both TV and film. Its as if they don't realize we are so many other things. There's this little movie from the 80s- My Beautiful Laundrette- the core story is not even about the two men being gay, it's about living in Thaterite England in the 80s and all sorts of other things- and yet at its heart is this story about two men starting up a laundrette who are also in love with each other. Somewhere along the lines, all that sort of potential for telling a story that is first a good story has been lost under cliches , rituals and mythology of what it means to be gay in pop culture. There are exceptions, but it is weird we don't see more Reids or more characters for whom the gay element isn't the story although in some ways it informs the story. Reid is clearly gay, but his issues with Luke and not wanting to play second fiddle are universal. Never seen that film but I know the name by its "fame" as a little cult movie ...& I agree with you 100% here: it has to be a UNIVERSAL theme within this kind of films, to really prove we're all the same & past the clichès, that IMO help only at the beginning of a knowledge... Let's see if perhaps this is a good example with this plot, where they want their 3 (4 with Richard the mystery boy !) gay-roles to address themselves
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 11:47:10 GMT -5
How can Noah be the winner in the pageant if Luke has more than let him know that he isn't even in the running? I guess he meant that even if "officially" Nuke are over, as Lily told, it's like every1 in Oakdale (& fans at home) imagine that they're kind of "soul-mates", hence that Noah has still the crown in hand if he really wanted Luke back...Hence it looks like Reid is the 2nd best & consolation prize... Ironically enough, I feel the most tortured & romantic of the 3 & star-crossed 1 (especially after reading the last s.) should be Reid at this point!
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Post by stregatta on May 21, 2010 10:16:51 GMT -5
Welcome VIC! & I totally agree...I'm so tired too of the endless dramas made upon guy-loves not girl-because gay=> all the coming out & puppy love... I mean, of course it's been important for gays who could speak up their voices but, under an artistic POV I want to see some more...
With this great Reid-role, a not stereotyped 1 (at least regarding unfortunately the way gays have been too often pictured), writers have got in hands a good plot ahead to develop for sure!
I'm so hoping they'll be brave to take the next step...However, the dynamic between Lure is interesting right now, I'm waiting to see how much it's going to happen & change from next week on...Fingers crossed!! Ciao*
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Post by stregatta on May 20, 2010 19:49:03 GMT -5
I think people are just putting too much stock into spoilers. I've seen multiple people take one spoiler that was printed in the same magazine, and spin it several different ways. Each way had a different meaning than all of the others. That's just what happens, it's human nature. People have a tendency to make spoilers mean what they want them to mean. It doesn't matter which fandom people are in, or even if they are professional soap writers or bloggers. Yep it's true...Everyone tends to make a little own the spoiler, but I didn't mean that: it's simple that it was not the way things played out on-screen, & even before they were often mistaken.
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Post by stregatta on May 20, 2010 19:14:43 GMT -5
I think that Noah telling Luke to leave had everything to do with what Luke said to him at the lake. He suspects, rightly, that Luke is being there for him out of an obligation. Reid didn't really give him any cause for alarm about his sight not coming back - not more than the possibility that he already knew about. Luke annoyed me at the bar with Reid when he said he wasn't sure why he was there. He'd obviously gone looking for Reid. Lilly inserting herself in favor of Noah makes me think that Lure might actually end up as endgame. She doesn't know how much Reid cares about Luke and she's made herself an obstacle to Luke embracing a relationship with Reid. Soap writers like to have love overcome obstacles. Ditto!! I've got the same impression It's time that Luke makes a move in whichever sense...I guess that in the bar he wanted a failed "heart-to-heart" with heartbroken Reid, who rightly preferred to walk away from the pain (PS_Who knew he was even type of taking a picture with his cell-phone with Luke BTW?! LOL ) Last but not least, I've noticed too the Lily-factor...I can't stand her anymore & I tend to agree with you on this point: it's like she is the good fairy pro-Noah, & Katie is the sweet pixie pro-Reid in this fable!! As I've alredy told, it seems that the romantic 1 without hope it's Dr at the moment, Noah, even understanding his current situation, is as usual a "jo-jo_push & pull"...& even if I respect the POV similar to Macari's 1, I think that it's not enough that writers had written down that "Noah & Luke have to love each other", I should be able to feel this vibe, even without knowing what they want me to believe, I hope to have explained myself... After all this jo-jo game in which I couldn't perceive the essence of their love & a real romantic/ sensual tension beneath, I'm frankly tired & I've ended up picturing them like a sort of brotherly friends... I can't help it! Of course it's strictly my POV... Overall, I guess we've always the right to turn off the story if we don't like, it's not that everything writers come up with has to be swallowed like Gospels, don't you think?! PS_I've liked that subtext in the Dr's line, when he told Luke about Noah's condition, that reference to going "backwards"...
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Post by stregatta on May 20, 2010 14:57:47 GMT -5
I've read about today's ep..(Still waiting to watch it though!) Anyway, again spoilers were kinda "wrong" : **Reid is jealous and angry when he learns about Luke and Noah's time together **Luke and Reid later meet and have a heart to heart **Reid thinks it's time he and Luke dealt with their feelings for each other I mean, new ep. seemed again a filler1?? No progression whatsoever in the plot... PS_The only thing certain was that Reid tried to stand his ground & made a step back, leaving Luke to choose...& Noah, well, as usual pushed AGAIN Luke back...What a bore?! I'm waiting for actual catfight+punches ;D & real heat-love for next week, I'm getting impatient, & like others told, here there's no time left for other filler-eps!!
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Post by stregatta on May 20, 2010 13:31:20 GMT -5
I get the attraction part of the story and I think they do have some real lust going on. But I just don't see how Luke is going to put up with the verbal rants on Luke. Reid talks down to Luke and calls him an idiot and "cheating boyfriend", not to mention trying to keep Luke from Noah. Noah's the patent and even if they are not together, Luke is Noah's support. I'm also interested in how Luke's family and friends are going to take to LuRe. Most of Oakdale at this point dislikes Reid. Has Reid even apologized to Kim for running into her? and when it was brought up to him he made belittling comments about Kim. Maybe it will change once Noah is basically out of the picture but right now, I don't see how this is a long term relationship and I think Luke will be better off by himself (or with Noah if the writers get his act together) at the end. Md, it's funny you're so "bothered" at Reid's talking "shit" to poor Luke, because I have listened to such worse "swearing" & bad manners, perhaps in American daytime-shows are more "polite", so to speak... Anyways it's as usual a matter of perspective: I've found it entertaining & "in line" with Reid's supposed kind of role, the delightfully bitchy 1, or as another has called him "king of snarkiness" ...It's just that lately, having to display his jealousy too often, he seems slightly over-the-top with it, but I guess it's a risk calculated by the writers so far...& I guess this angst will lead to an hot pay-off that will make Luke more than satisfied with! LMFAO ;D) Regarding Lure against all people in town who can't stand the doc would be hilarious, don't you think?! Like Lily's last speech... Overall, even in fiction I think that, it's not so unberable if some1 called you with a bad name (BTW I don't mean nasty offence of course), but then his true colours are good for you...I guess it's better the essence than the "appearance": a Noah that before kicked Luke's ass because he was supposedly too close & caring of him, & claimed to want to stay just FRIENDS, & then months after complains that Luke is going elsewhere, well... More than romantic seems a little bipolar, don't you think?! PS_Always IMHO, Reid is the most wickedly romantic of the 3 at the moment: I consider it this way, his being the 3rd wheel of this triangle, knowing perfectly he's come for last & that Luke is already taken by ages (even if off-on, but nobody seems to care about it I've noticed, on & off-screen ) & has still feelings for another, who's even his patient...Utterly romantic!!
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Post by stregatta on May 19, 2010 18:55:03 GMT -5
Thanks Dorothy (& Md) for replying & explaining... Well, regarding Noah, of course it has irritated me too he's wanting to seem always "the perfect" boyfriend, when instead the audience knows better...Anyway, it's simply the way this role is supposed to be: & I don't think he'll change in the core SO MUCH (unfortunately for us ), as Shameless was rightly hoping for... PS_Recently I had the chance to watch some more of Nuke-eps that I didn't see before (being a quite recent fan & having to select what to follow for catching up with the plot ), & I've been surprised once more, to discover that actually, apart from the mistletoe-ban & all other silliy stuff, they weren't ever alone in a bedroom or have had, however, that sort of intimacy/ chemestry to make me believe this is a real love story... IMO all I get was the confirmation of Van as a convincing Luke, longing for Noah (& Jake's acting exactly the same we see in this period): if it hadn't been for Van, I swear that not knowing the SL, I would have thought Nuke to be just good friends... Does anybody want an HUG?? 'cause practically I've seen just those between them...What a pity!!
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Post by stregatta on May 19, 2010 17:08:32 GMT -5
You know MD, I've noticed it too, I mean "I love you" & Luke's reply...& for a moment I was WTF?! ; I've also thought, since it was said with such a light heart, that perhaps it's was just the English-words in this case (as to say "I care of you a lot" in this sense, in Italian there's a difference in saying "Ti amo" or "Ti voglio bene", I guess in Eng the 2 are both within that 1 sentence... ). About Luke looking so close to Noah's side now it's because of his guilt & Noah's condition, as a matter of fact, if it were up just to him, Luke would have already said to Noah about his new feelings Regarding his being all giddy & fragile close to Reid I guess it's pretty obvious, it's because he's struggling with this new crush ...& still feels trapped between 2 fires (+he's aware of playing with fire too !), at least for the moment!
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Post by stregatta on May 19, 2010 17:04:19 GMT -5
Well MD it's true today it was a kind of filler-ep...I guess tomorrow (yeah!!I didn't think to see them on 2 days this weeks, Tululua was right! ;-)) we'll understand something more in depth. Probably, to make starting up the new affair of Lure, Luke had to "feel" that Noah hasn't changed yet, & that he somehow he's still confused or at the same place where he was before surgery, or however months ago...Obviously his very ATWT-POV!! LOL PS_Ok, now I'm sure Reid will go to the park with Katie...Finding out Nuke's almost cuddling each other & willl be mad jealous again, hence, what the talk is about & perhaps Lure is really going to begin so soon ^_^
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Post by stregatta on May 19, 2010 9:10:08 GMT -5
Either OLTL or ATWT. Pretty much everyone thinks It's ATWT though, I think. I don't know if that's going to happen but thinking about how the spoilers all fit in together is kind of fun. I'm not sure about "problems in the hospital".. other than the fact it comes out that Reid chased after Luke while Noah was his patent. I'm sure it's against some ethics rule an I don't think it matters that Nuke broke up along the way. Oh yes I remember too how mad was Luke at wanting that every1 knew that they were "boyfriends" (also Holden replying him "But you're actually friends" to him saying that Noah told people they were just "friends"..Uh-uh, lot has changed in the meantime But I mean, it's also fun to see a developing, Luke himself seems more confident & I like this side, moreover I'm pretty sure writers will push Noah too ahead with his life & kind of approach ). About the hospital-thing, it could be the way you told: BTW, Nuke weren't married, or teenagers, & Reid didn't rape anyone... So I don't think there're legal issues here...But of course I don't know your laws, perhaps there's something else?? PS_Last thing, Nuke seems to be & fit the most classic of happy-endings, so it's understandable they could go this cliched way.... If instead they choose to change & go for Lure, it'll be an artistic challange too, beyond the conventional "already seen it"...I'm really curious to find out!
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Post by stregatta on May 19, 2010 6:54:43 GMT -5
MD after having read the latest spoiler...Hell yeah!! I wasn't at all, 100% sure, that Lure would have become a couple for real... It could have been otherwise: them always involved in a secret affair?! Ok, that said, frankly I don't even know if the soap mentioned in that spoiler is really ATWT (I can't help you, I don't know the others+which is supposed to be on the EC etc... ); BTW, if you are almost sure they're referring to our soap, I think that Nuke-fans would be disappointed in the next few months...They're already pissed off because Reid is not a villain, 'cause Noah hasn't much screentime compared to him, that Luke is "a little too much" romantically involved with the Dr...& above all, they are the supporters from the beginning of a long-romance, & they feel to deserve against all odds, their happy-ending. Honestly I think it's about their "grudge", considering the whole situation, & it would be perfectly understandable...Of course it could be also something else...(Anyway Lure-fans already know it's a bumpy ride with a little hope, so I don't see it as a similar thing ). But knowing there's not a long period to follow the plot, I guess we'll see a developing of Lure's 1, & then, naturally, a Noah in search of Luke again...At that point there will be other intertwined issues for Luke & Reid, as we could see now from the latest spoilers, & at that stage Luke will collide+break up with Reid again , hence I imagine he'll be single & perhaps will sleep with Noah , giving in to old feelings &... Only then, so far future from now, we'll have the final surprise about who's going to choose (personally I don't think ATWT will let Luke go alone into the sunset... ) PS_I didn't fully understand what's the meaning of "problems in hospital" caused by Lure's relationship??!! It's because they're business partners too perhaps...Becuase they're gay?? Or 'cause it's a morality-issue, Reid's fault, 'cause Noah was 1 of his patient?? What do you think about?
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Post by stregatta on May 18, 2010 13:19:44 GMT -5
I'm so excited about the new spoilers.. so this interview set everything straight.. Noah will be the one to catch Lure in action, (Lure kiss next Friday yaaay!! ;D) which we already predicted and " Reid paying the price" is finally cleared.. and It's a PUNCH .. I'm OK with that as Long it has nothing to do with Reid's license or his career and we won't have to wait too long, all of this is happening Next WeeK .. Although I don't understand the 'Reid deserves what he gets' line considering Nuke are not together and it's not like Reid is Noah's best friend or sth as if he's betraying him by doing so but I think it will be fun to watch .. and what would be more exciting if Luke will show some affection towards Reid for a change and go for the rescue and nurse him back to health ;D *squeee* Seriously I can't wait to see how all of this will play out on screen.. hope it won't be rushed!! did I say I'M EXCITED!!! ;D PS_ Hi everyone first time to comment and sorry for my bad english.. I don't use it often Bienvenue Faffounette chérie, tu es mon nouveau idole! Merci beaucoup pour cette article! LOL ;D I'm SO excited too, & moreover I'm relieved now that Reid won't have to be punished for something else (I was afraid as well that that spoilers' line was about another issue as all the malpractice-1...Or major problem with Noah's brain, etc.. )... Wow, then it's just wonderful drama-angst & all for cute Luke...LOVELY!! About Noah's right to punch Reid (so sexy I bet with another black eye... ): well I guess I get what Jake was saying, that it's human to be so pissed off after discovering a person so close to you, like a doctor (or a professor, & so on...) that should be "professional" enough to keep a distance anyway, no matter what his feelings are, & instead gave into passion "under your eyes"... Well, I can understand! Even if of course he's no more right into being so emotional, because of course he's not Luke's boyfriend (& either his BFF) since ages...However it's understandable, I'm curious to see which side Luke will keep this time, & perhaps it's the right time also for Noah to grow up a bit . Hence, all fans will be happier in the end I presume! Furthermore, I don't think that the Lure's kiss will happen after Noah & Richard will do the surprise, but it could be before, Luke is going to be soon drawn into Reid's web, & aftermath all the rest with Noah's discovering IMO...Can't wait! PS_Your Eng. is good, don't worry!
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Post by stregatta on May 18, 2010 8:37:02 GMT -5
Obviously it's a possibility what md told about Richard basically used as a jealous plot-device to make moving SL & push things for Lure (also given that Luke is a good character, it's not twisted or else, so he's to be very sure to take the big step ahead...): & anyway Reid is another "fair" character too, especially talking about love (it's not an arrogant rogue "tout-court" like it could seem at the very beginning ) ...Hence it surely makes a logical sense. However I will feel disappointed, I don't want to see a Brian 2.0 (as another Mason's 1, but at least this risk isn't anymore ...Unless Richard is not a sort of ambiguos guy/menace for Luke, but I guess he's not ). I hope they give a real chance & room to Lure to grow, unless LITERALLY...Where's all the fun??!! About JakeS. going elsewhere, it could be for a period too, but I don't see it as a big issue for the plot (if it's true that they've to leave room to Lure for a limitated time anyway . About what Shameless told in that Catch-22_speech...I'm a Lure fan hence I won't have a doubt about my finale, but the truth is that we still don't know if Noah is yet supposed to be "the LOVE" of Luke's life, with capital letter; if this is the essence, it doesn't have to be for sure a redemption of Noah's character. It's enough to show that he's repented of what he's done to his ex, perhaps making him forgiving Luke for Reid's affair+making him saying "You're the 1" something like that (making this time looking like he's sure of what he think ;D), & they at the end of the day shouldn't even owe us such a big deep meaning to all.... Because it's a soap. Of course On the other hand BTW, if this is the purpose from the start, with ATWT's closure in sight...Why even bother to create such a role as Dr.O, I say again...To make him winning an Emmy?? It doesn't make big sense, at least for me PS_ Anthony on Afterelton said what's was on my mind too, talking about Noah's awakening of past week...What a pity! It could have been powerful drama, instead they've lost a good chance to show a "deeper" role for Noah
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Post by stregatta on May 17, 2010 18:26:51 GMT -5
Hola Carmela...Gracias de verdad por tus inceibles infos sobre Bernat y Marc, desde BCN...Justo hoy hablé de ellos con amigos-fans de esta pareja desde EL COR-dìas! Y qué lastìma qué se acabò sin la famosa escena de la boda entre ellos ...Vale, està bien a pesar de esto, a la pròxima vez/ noticias! Saludos Ciao*
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Post by stregatta on May 16, 2010 18:33:29 GMT -5
Shameless...Don't worry, there's around quite a lot of fans that want like us Lure as endgame, simply because it has got the potential of being an innovative dynamic for a plot... Most of times you take the talk focused on your own very personal POV, I could just add that for obvious reasons, mine is a different 1, but however, I'm so sick (since ages) to have to rewatch the usual "Romeo&Juliet" kind of path (besides, to make working for real R&J SL, they should die in the end?! ;D...I don't want to sound slightly "sadistic" here, but that classical plot had its own dark meaning, like originally fairy-tales had...If you took off it, it remains just the SACCHARINE...Not so good indeed! ); hence let's welcome more interesting SLs, whichever way they come along... If you have a 2nd look to what mainstream audience generally like (not just children/young teenagers), it's not the Prince Charming of sort but the vampire or the bad boy ... It had to be a meaning beneath! I guess it's because it's more exciting to follow & it brings with it a double tensile layer, than in flat reality you don't have... & even if we've gay-roles here, it shouldn't be a big deal, either a deep difference with straight 1s: it has to be simply a good SL with great characters to work, like it's always been & will be. Frankly I don't think writers have spent all these eps to build a full-round role as Reid's 1, for nothing...What's the point?? I guess they're simply rolling their initial idea of Dr as the new future interest for Luke. It makes a sense at least... Vice versa, IMO suffice is to say that it could have been easier to imagine an evil Reid (& I'm SO sure he's not a villain right now! ), that kept chasing after a temporarily weak Luke for lust, & in the end real love for Noah would have conquered all...Easier also for making amends with Nuke's fans, isn'it it?! Then definitely there's an open door for Lure ...& of course better L. alone if it's not meant to be, also for me...Regarding the problem of lacking of time (comparing Luke's 2 relationships), it could be easily caught up toward the ending, showing the 2 guys already in the future: a trick used many times, but always very entertaining to watch! PS_Thinking twice there's a difference with Noah, being a gay-role...They can't make him PREGNANT by mistake (to force Luke to come back to him)!! suxLOL ;D
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Post by stregatta on May 16, 2010 18:25:23 GMT -5
I still think that Noah needs to show that he wants Luke back, and to show it, he needs to lost him first. Right now they are in the middle of nowhere, so i hope they could clarify their status soon. Firs, Noah would have to show that he really understands what Luke was saying on Wednesday, and he would have to admit to the things that he did. I have this feeling that Noah really didn't pay attention to a thing that Luke said, and that in his mind they are still a couple. LOL if I had exactly the same impression?! ;D It's like if Noah seems always to be stuck into his ambiguos position (& re-watching the 1st eps, what he said to Luke before the 1st almost surgery, & how he gave all the blame to him when talking to Reid, back then...Well, he's definitely got A LOT to make up for... )...& he didn't say SORRY to his supposedly ex boyfriend even in this occasion, regarding the accident, wow... If you also think that Noah literally is ALIVE thanks to Snyder/Grimaldi extended family, I don't know...What a bad way indeed to picture a character, I've tried, but honestly I gave up feeling empathy for him ...I know, it's a soap, of course, but still!
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Post by stregatta on May 16, 2010 12:47:04 GMT -5
THIS WEEK POLL ON : http//tvguide.ca/Soaps:"WHO IS 2010'S BEST LOVE STORY SO FAR ?"...Among others, they've chosen LURE too Yeah!! Let's vote guys (they're doing well right now ) Last but not least. ...Among the Top 5 Actors to Watch:3. Eric Sheffer Stevens (Reid, World Turns) Top 3 Duos to Watch:2. Reid and Luke, World Turns Top 3 Love Equations to Watch:—tie— Reid/Luke/Noah, World Turns 3. Barbara/Henry/Vienna, World Turns Top 5 Soap Moms: 5. Katie Snyder, World Turns
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Post by stregatta on May 16, 2010 12:08:34 GMT -5
Yep, of course MD, then we agree on the point. I'm aware of Jake being in till the end, as a matter of fact, in all the triangles I've seen (at least from US shows, because, you know, elsewhere things are different, & we could discuss for endless time...) all the characters have to stay, if not every1 could understand before the ending what's going to happen. For Noah's not having a reason to be in, it's not completely true: we still don't know if for ex., all the silly "class-film thing" could have been done to keep an eye opened for his future...Like a work as director again for something in Oakdale, apart from Luke: like x inst., another docu-film with the help of buddy Richard for charity-purposes for helping blind-people, these kind of "solutions", to make him staying longer in town, without his being all clinging on Luke again... (+don't forget that not just Bob, Chris & Reid are involved into the new wing, but I guess also Noah could have a part in "sponsorizing" it, being a special patient-case for Dr O....BTW, initially N. wasn't supposed to have more than1 surgeries??!! ) Therefore actually I guess Luke will say Noah not to F.O.! exactly, but simply to stay friends for real, & N., obviously, will pass the rest of time trying to win Luke's love back...Ironically enough, I also think for all Nuke's fans it wil be a blissful time, because they'll see for once in a while, a more passionate Noah than ever... Anyway overall, 1 thing is sure for me: they had to show something "hot & heavy" (in substance I mean! ) for Lure in this short time, a real SL for them only (apart from both wanting to help poor Noah) if not, it's clear that after years of Nuke's past SL, it's all a farce at this stage, isn't it?! PS_Didn't every1 else found awkard that, after such a risky operation, finally Noah wakes up & neither a kiss with Luke, knowing that they could even not see each other ever again ?! (I'm not complaing here, eh! ) Frankly I've found that as another push into Lure's direction (all the affectionate moments of this period, tender hands-classic Dr's moves included! , are between Luke & Reid...)
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