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Post by justinate on Jan 15, 2022 7:25:08 GMT -5
It might not mean anything, but they're introducing a new character soon - it's the son of evil Pierce Harris, Marcus. He'll be played by Darcy Grey and will get involved with one of the villagers. Very handsome guy, and normally these press briefs will say he's a ladies' man/catches the eye of the women but in this case there's no gender attributed to Marcus's love interest. Ethan's single, so he stands a chance - but given that the show has not invested in him at all and has just written out two gay characters with depressing endings in as many months, I'm not putting too much hope on it. Knowing our luck Marcus will be into stepmum Rhona. www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/a38772109/emmerdale-marcus-dean-romance-storyline/ |
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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 22, 2022 9:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Feb 22, 2022 9:44:16 GMT -5
I had hopes when they said Marcus would find a love interest in the village that it would be Ethan - glad to see I'm right.
Mind you, the sex must be mind-blowingly good for Marcus to uproot himself for a guy he just met and move to the village where his reviled father's victims still live.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 22, 2022 9:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Mar 15, 2022 20:51:15 GMT -5
Thursday, March 24: Ethan and Marcus meet for lunch
Sparks fly between them.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 9, 2022 3:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Aug 9, 2022 9:27:20 GMT -5
Why are they making his return out to be this great return and a casting coup? He just left the show at the end of last year and has not had any major (or minor) roles since. The returns of Karl Davies as Robert or Kelvin Fletcher as Andy Sugden would be more significant since they belong to the show's original family. I know they have Diane coming back to beef up the Sugden presence but one of Jack's sons would be far more meaningful than his last, most briefly-married wife!
I'm just not feeling this 50th anniversary. Like they're arranging a couple of births this year (Charity/Mack and teenager Amelia) but except for Charity, who already has FOUR kids by different fathers, none of those characters have strong ties to the show. Wouldn't it have been more touching to arrange for Victoria to give birth on the anniversary and name her daughter Annie after her late grandma? [ETA: Just read a spoiler that Charity's pregnancy is ectopic and she has to have an abortion, so we're not even getting a Dingle baby!]
They also promise us a big storm that will leave lives changed forever - my guess is some minor characters snuff it and a major one is left with a disability that will be miraculously cured within a year or two.
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Post by antistatic on Aug 9, 2022 21:02:50 GMT -5
I don't think it has been the show that is making out that Danny's return is a casting coup. Emmerdale's original press releases mentioned all three returning actors collectively and in a quite matter of fact manner. They didn't single any one of them out over the others. It's just sites like Digital Spy and Metro Soap that do that sort of thing. They are well known for turning straight forward announcements into sensational headlines to create clickbait articles. It will be Danny's first work since leaving the show. He announced then that he would be taking a year off to spend time with his new born son after I'm a Celebrity and was quite frank about the fact that the only reason he was doing that show was for the pay cheque which would help tide him over for the next year. I believe Emmerdale did invite some other past actors back but got knock-backs. Adam Thomas claimed he would be too busy with his upcoming stint on Waterloo Rd to return. I don't know if they asked Ryan Hawley back, though Karl Davis was never going to return as he went on record some years ago to say he would never play the role of Robert again, which was why the show decided to recast the character in the first place. Personally, I'm not feeling Emmerdale in general these days myself. I still watch it, but I often feel like I'm watching some sort of Hollyoaks hybrid rather than the Dales. Ethan and Marcus don't keep my attention very much and I'm a bit peed off that they've decided to make us all cry over Faith's demise as part of the 50th anniversary. IMHO it'll be a short term gain but a waste of a strong well-developed character who had longevity as one of the village oldies. |
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Post by carld2 on Aug 10, 2022 0:03:11 GMT -5
I don't think it has been the show that is making out that Danny's return is a casting coup. Emmerdale's original press releases mentioned all three returning actors collectively and in a quite matter of fact manner. They didn't single any one of them out over the others. It's just sites like Digital Spy and Metro Soap that do that sort of thing. They are well known for turning straight forward announcements into sensational headlines to create clickbait articles. It will be Danny's first work since leaving the show. He announced then that he would be taking a year off to spend time with his new born son after I'm a Celebrity and was quite frank about the fact that the only reason he was doing that show was for the pay cheque which would help tide him over for the next year. I believe Emmerdale did invite some other past actors back but got knock-backs. Adam Thomas claimed he would be too busy with his upcoming stint on Waterloo Rd to return. I don't know if they asked Ryan Hawley back, though Karl Davis was never going to return as he went on record some years ago to say he would never play the role of Robert again, which was why the show decided to recast the character in the first place. Personally, I'm not feeling Emmerdale in general these days myself. I still watch it, but I often feel like I'm watching some sort of Hollyoaks hybrid rather than the Dales. Ethan and Marcus don't keep my attention very much and I'm a bit peed off that they've decided to make us all cry over Faith's demise as part of the 50th anniversary. IMHO it'll be a short term gain but a waste of a strong well-developed character who had longevity as one of the village oldies. If the show actually cared about its past I think they could have found a number of actors to bring back, but the show these days doesn't even seem likely to have another ghostly visit for Val, let alone someone with ties to many years prior. Yet almost no one from the much weaker recent years cares about returning, if they were asked. It speaks volumes that an actress who was always returning from maternity leave is being trumpeted as a 50th anniversary return. I find the show to be a slog and barely watchable, as I have not since around 2018 or so. It makes me sad to think this is what FIFTY YEARS is going to be. What a waste. I hope Kevin Laffan comes back and takes over the whole show via the shadow realm... |
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Post by justinate on Aug 10, 2022 9:57:20 GMT -5
I don't think it has been the show that is making out that Danny's return is a casting coup. Emmerdale's original press releases mentioned all three returning actors collectively and in a quite matter of fact manner. They didn't single any one of them out over the others. It's just sites like Digital Spy and Metro Soap that do that sort of thing. They are well known for turning straight forward announcements into sensational headlines to create clickbait articles. It will be Danny's first work since leaving the show. He announced then that he would be taking a year off to spend time with his new born son after I'm a Celebrity and was quite frank about the fact that the only reason he was doing that show was for the pay cheque which would help tide him over for the next year. I believe Emmerdale did invite some other past actors back but got knock-backs. Adam Thomas claimed he would be too busy with his upcoming stint on Waterloo Rd to return. I don't know if they asked Ryan Hawley back, though Karl Davis was never going to return as he went on record some years ago to say he would never play the role of Robert again, which was why the show decided to recast the character in the first place. Personally, I'm not feeling Emmerdale in general these days myself. I still watch it, but I often feel like I'm watching some sort of Hollyoaks hybrid rather than the Dales. Ethan and Marcus don't keep my attention very much and I'm a bit peed off that they've decided to make us all cry over Faith's demise as part of the 50th anniversary. IMHO it'll be a short term gain but a waste of a strong well-developed character who had longevity as one of the village oldies. You're right, it was just the soap press who highlighted Danny/Aaron's return (some had only him in the headline!) but when I look at the original interview with the showrunners, they list all three returning actors, with Diane/Elizabeth Estensen mentioned first, as is right. She is the veteran actress and was on the show long before Danny. But it's still ridiculous that these three are being positioned as big returns. None of them have been gone even a year. It's a shame if none of the other actors approached wanted to return, not even for a cameo to air during the 50th. I hope these are just the more rote returns (Tracy's return from maternity leave certainly is!) and they will have some surprise returns in store, too. I do wonder what story Aaron will get - is it to usher his sister out of town? Or maybe he can mend Mack's broken heart and run off with him into the sunset? That would go some way towards making up for the queerbaiting they subjected us to! Ethan and Marcus are given some really dreary stories. Marcus's best plot was the one that brought him into the village and it's been dull ever since. I almost wish they would make him turn evil/abusive like daddy Pierce; at least that would rock things up a bit. I don't think you need to hide that spoiler about Faith, this is the spoiler discussion thread after all! I'm sorry to see her go too, she is one of the more interesting/best-acted characters in recent years. |
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Post by antistatic on Sept 28, 2022 5:11:08 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Nov 4, 2022 9:58:56 GMT -5
There seems to be a lot of speculation over who really killed Al, with most folk convinced that Cain is innocent and covering up for somebody... with that somebody being Aaron!
Aaron’s supposed exit which aired the day before Al’s death, was criticised by fans for being just a little bit too underwhelming, and now the thought is that he didn't really leave the village at all but hid himself away, too furious about Chas and Al's betrayal to move on. He too was in the barn during Cain and Al's showdown and as Cain and Al grappled, Aaron grabbed the shotgun and fired!
To be honest, I don't think Emmerdale would actually send Cain down unless they are planning a Cain-behind-bars storyline, but since we've already had that before with Aaron, I think it's unlikely. However, as much as I don't like the current theory I do admit that Aaron would be a good candidate with Danny's return only being a temporary one.
Who knows? If he does turn out to be the killer and ends up getting sent down, I'm sure the writers could reunite him with Robert in prison! Two murdering boyfriends back together again! Lol! 😝
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 5, 2023 12:04:21 GMT -5
Ugh I was so excited for Arthur to get a boyfriend, only to read he's his bully instead? Ugh. This sucks!
Edit: or is he? Is it just April with her attidude again? In one spoiler they described Marshall as a bully (at first I thought it was Arthur's bully but then realized maybe it's Aprils? or both?). But then another spoiler said they're gonna get into an argument and then she'll punch him, so maybe he's not being a bully, April is just impossible? But then it says Arthur stands up to Marshall. Does that mean he'll tell him off because he's defending April? But it also says it might help him tackle things? How will him telling Marshall off help with him having a crush on him? Unless he really is bullying Arthur. I'm vey confused.
Either way, I'm still not convinved Marshall is even gay. I'm skeptical until proven otherwise.
Can someone else please tell me what this means:
Monday January 9:
Marshall arrives at the cafe and gets into an argument with April, who ends up punching him.
Things go from bad to worse for Rhona when she discovers April hasn’t just punched someone but has also had a piercing. With Nicola in her ear, Rhona starts to worry about Naomi’s influence.
Soon Rhona confronts Naomi about her influence over April. Their argument ends in a physical altercation and Rhona’s livid when Marlon doesn’t take her side.
Thursday January 12:
Cathy and April are intrigued when Arthur forms a plan to stand up to Marshall. Will this help Arthur tackle things?
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Post by justinate on Jan 6, 2023 13:07:55 GMT -5
From what I understand, Marshall is stringing along Arthur to make fun of him and isn't gay. They could, of course, turn it around and show Marshall was pressured into faking it and does in fact have genuine feelings for Arthur - but if I'm honest I'd much prefer Arthur to get a love interest from one of the legacy teens. There's Elliott, Heath, and Samson - plus Noah and Jacob may no longer be at school but they aren't that far removed from their teen years - so plenty of options.
On what's probably an unrelated note, Heath's twin sister Cathy apparently will have a big plot coming up, something that's never been done before. I wonder what that is.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 7, 2023 12:09:06 GMT -5
From what I understand, Marshall is stringing along Arthur to make fun of him and isn't gay. They could, of course, turn it around and show Marshall was pressured into faking it and does in fact have genuine feelings for Arthur - but if I'm honest I'd much prefer Arthur to get a love interest from one of the legacy teens. There's Elliott, Heath, and Samson - plus Noah and Jacob may no longer be at school but they aren't that far removed from their teen years - so plenty of options. On what's probably an unrelated note, Heath's twin sister Cathy apparently will have a big plot coming up, something that's never been done before. I wonder what that is. I agree. I got the impression from the scenes yesterday that Marshall didn't want to do it, that he might have feelings for him too? The way I see it there's a few possibilites: Marshall went along with it but didn't really want to, he is actually gay and has feelings for Arthur. Marshall is straight, but didn't want to do it, he regrets doing it, he is a good guy but has no feelings for Arthur. Or of course he could just be a regular bully who wanted to do it because he's an asshole. I agree with you though, that if Arthur and Marshall don't end up together, I'm sorta fine with it as I want him to get together with someone in the village, not some recurring guest actor, which means most (if not all) of the relationship will be off screen, which would suck. On the other hand, Arthur seemed so into Marshall and I really want him to be happy, so I would like it if they got together. Heck, them getting together now doesn't mean he can't get into a relationship with someone in the village later on. I really hope there's a twist and that Marshall has feelings for Arthur. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I don't think yesterday's episode made it very clear, to me it seemed like Marshall regretted it? But yeah, we'll see. |
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Post by hfolk on Jan 7, 2023 12:32:43 GMT -5
From what I understand, Marshall is stringing along Arthur to make fun of him and isn't gay. They could, of course, turn it around and show Marshall was pressured into faking it and does in fact have genuine feelings for Arthur - but if I'm honest I'd much prefer Arthur to get a love interest from one of the legacy teens. There's Elliott, Heath, and Samson - plus Noah and Jacob may no longer be at school but they aren't that far removed from their teen years - so plenty of options. On what's probably an unrelated note, Heath's twin sister Cathy apparently will have a big plot coming up, something that's never been done before. I wonder what that is. I agree. I got the impression from the scenes yesterday that Marshall didn't want to do it, that he might have feelings for him too? The way I see it there's a few possibilites: Marshall went along with it but didn't really want to, he is actually gay and has feelings for Arthur. Marshall is straight, but didn't want to do it, he regrets doing it, he is a good guy but has no feelings for Arthur. Or of course he could just be a regular bully who wanted to do it because he's an asshole. I agree with you though, that if Arthur and Marshall don't end up together, I'm sorta fine with it as I want him to get together with someone in the village, not some recurring guest actor, which means most (if not all) of the relationship will be off screen, which would suck. On the other hand, Arthur seemed so into Marshall and I really want him to be happy, so I would like it if they got together. Heck, them getting together now doesn't mean he can't get into a relationship with someone in the village later on. I really hope there's a twist and that Marshall has feelings for Arthur. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I don't think yesterday's episode made it very clear, to me it seemed like Marshall regretted it? But yeah, we'll see. the way he was looking at Arthur after he ran off makes me think that he regrets going along with his friends |
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 8, 2023 5:59:00 GMT -5
I agree. I got the impression from the scenes yesterday that Marshall didn't want to do it, that he might have feelings for him too? The way I see it there's a few possibilites: Marshall went along with it but didn't really want to, he is actually gay and has feelings for Arthur. Marshall is straight, but didn't want to do it, he regrets doing it, he is a good guy but has no feelings for Arthur. Or of course he could just be a regular bully who wanted to do it because he's an asshole. I agree with you though, that if Arthur and Marshall don't end up together, I'm sorta fine with it as I want him to get together with someone in the village, not some recurring guest actor, which means most (if not all) of the relationship will be off screen, which would suck. On the other hand, Arthur seemed so into Marshall and I really want him to be happy, so I would like it if they got together. Heck, them getting together now doesn't mean he can't get into a relationship with someone in the village later on. I really hope there's a twist and that Marshall has feelings for Arthur. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I don't think yesterday's episode made it very clear, to me it seemed like Marshall regretted it? But yeah, we'll see. the way he was looking at Arthur after he ran off makes me think that he regrets going along with his friends That's what I thought too, first it really did look like Marshall wanted to kiss Arthur. He seemed really into him (I guess it could have been an act, but somehow I doubt it). Then after his idiot friends revealed it was a bet he seemed really sad and like he regretted it. But did he regret it because he's a good guy and didn't want to do that to Arthur, or because he has feelings for Arthur? I wonder if he's secretly gay? Maybe it's just wishful thinking from me though, idk. I guesss we'll see next week. Either way I do think Arthur will be getting a boyfriend soon, whether it's Marshall or someone else. |
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Post by justinate on Jan 8, 2023 10:03:36 GMT -5
I thought they would not tackle Arthur's love life until the actor is a little older (although it would be double standards since his peers include a teen mother, but we all know how the TV Bible demands a gay kiss must be treated as more sexual than a straight one...) but now I am wondering if it will happen sooner rather than later. If it is Marshall, it feels like a very low-investment story - sure, there could be conflict from some of the other teens but none of them are legacy characters. Amelia, realistically, could be a bible thumper but it would be intensely hypocritical when she just had a baby out of wedlock. Not that hypocrisy would be any impediment to the average bible-bashing bigot, of course - if anything it's a prerequisite!
I was honestly surprised that Arthur's crush turned out to be a random teen. I thought at the very least it would be a legacy teen who didn't reciprocate, and his eventual love interest would be a day-player like Marshall. Unless one of the legacy boys is going to lend him support and discover his own feelings for Arthur in the process ...
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jan 8, 2023 12:33:58 GMT -5
Emmerdale spoilers for next
What's next in the village?
Arthur has a plan.
After rowing with bully Marshall and punching him, April wants to help Arthur tackle him.
She and Cathy are intrigued when Arthur says he has a plan to stand up to Marshall, but will it work?
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 8, 2023 15:23:53 GMT -5
I thought they would not tackle Arthur's love life until the actor is a little older (although it would be double standards since his peers include a teen mother, but we all know how the TV Bible demands a gay kiss must be treated as more sexual than a straight one...) but now I am wondering if it will happen sooner rather than later. If it is Marshall, it feels like a very low-investment story - sure, there could be conflict from some of the other teens but none of them are legacy characters. Amelia, realistically, could be a bible thumper but it would be intensely hypocritical when she just had a baby out of wedlock. Not that hypocrisy would be any impediment to the average bible-bashing bigot, of course - if anything it's a prerequisite! I was honestly surprised that Arthur's crush turned out to be a random teen. I thought at the very least it would be a legacy teen who didn't reciprocate, and his eventual love interest would be a day-player like Marshall. Unless one of the legacy boys is going to lend him support and discover his own feelings for Arthur in the process ... I agree with you, and I understand why you are disappointed. However, I think it needs to be pointed out that Marshall might not even be gay, we may have intepreted it wrong and he's just a bully. Heck, even if it turns out Marshall is gay and into Arthur, then this is just one relationship of hopefully many to come. Who's to say the next won't be with a legacy character? I think if this becomes a relationship, then Arthur will probably mention in a sentence at one point that they broke up. Sadly I expect most of the relationship to happen off screen, since he's a guest character. That's the downside of this. And yes, it sucks. However, I still hope he will get more to do in the future. Maybe a few months will pass before they introduce a legacy character for him as a boyfriend. Maybe around June for Pride? I am gonna say, despite the actual coming out being handled in a very positive way, the story leading up to the coming out was kinda disappointing. I understand they wanted it to be a surprise, but I'd much rather his inner turmoil actually played out on screen, instead of simply hinting that there must be a reason he's not into April. Like... couldn't they have had him look at boys or something? It would have been funner to watch if he had hooked up with a guy and they kept it a secret and then the secret came out. Then again... I guess they already did that storyline with Aaron and Robert. Anyways, I still wish it was different though. So yeah, I agree with you that so far Arthur's story has been disappointing, both the story leading up to his coming out, and then his first possible boyfriend. I still have hope for something better to come though. I wonder if they aren't giving him much to do because of laws about child labor? I wonder if the character can't get fleshed out stories before the actor reaches a certain age? I have no idea, just something I thought about. |
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Post by justinate on Jan 9, 2023 6:02:11 GMT -5
I agree with you, and I understand why you are disappointed. However, I think it needs to be pointed out that Marshall might not even be gay, we may have intepreted it wrong and he's just a bully. Heck, even if it turns out Marshall is gay and into Arthur, then this is just one relationship of hopefully many to come. Who's to say the next won't be with a legacy character? I think if this becomes a relationship, then Arthur will probably mention in a sentence at one point that they broke up. Sadly I expect most of the relationship to happen off screen, since he's a guest character. That's the downside of this. And yes, it sucks. However, I still hope he will get more to do in the future. Maybe a few months will pass before they introduce a legacy character for him as a boyfriend. Maybe around June for Pride? I am gonna say, despite the actual coming out being handled in a very positive way, the story leading up to the coming out was kinda disappointing. I understand they wanted it to be a surprise, but I'd much rather his inner turmoil actually played out on screen, instead of simply hinting that there must be a reason he's not into April. Like... couldn't they have had him look at boys or something? It would have been funner to watch if he had hooked up with a guy and they kept it a secret and then the secret came out. Then again... I guess they already did that storyline with Aaron and Robert. Anyways, I still wish it was different though. So yeah, I agree with you that so far Arthur's story has been disappointing, both the story leading up to his coming out, and then his first possible boyfriend. I still have hope for something better to come though. I wonder if they aren't giving him much to do because of laws about child labor? I wonder if the character can't get fleshed out stories before the actor reaches a certain age? I have no idea, just something I thought about. I wouldn't say I'm disappointed by the overall story, just the choice of love interest for Arthur. If anything I am pleasantly surprised they are even tackling his love life this early; I would never have guessed Emmerdale would be the first British soap to have a teen played by an actual teen actor come out. (At least, I think it's a first - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!) While it's true there are certain restrictions on juvenile actors, Emmerdale and the other soaps have given big stories to some of their other teen actors without noticeable limitations on their screen time, so unless Alfie Clarke's parents withhold their consent, he shouldn't get noticeably less airtime either. |
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jan 24, 2023 1:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Feb 8, 2023 13:59:31 GMT -5
New spoilers today and no mention of Arthur or Marshall. This means they probably won't show up next week either  Hopefully they will the week after that though. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Feb 15, 2023 12:40:09 GMT -5
As much as this sucks, I'm not entirely surprised. He barely got any storylines. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him. The actor looked kinda bored at times, like he just phoned it in. It's such a shame because I actually really did enjoy watching him and his relationship. |
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Post by justinate on Feb 16, 2023 6:35:46 GMT -5
As much as this sucks, I'm not entirely surprised. He barely got any storylines. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with him. The actor looked kinda bored at times, like he just phoned it in. It's such a shame because I actually really did enjoy watching him and his relationship. Yes it's not exactly a surprise. Marcus never seemed to exist as his own person; he was brought in initially as Rhona's stepson and then, once that arc was over, he became Ethan's boyfriend. Even the recent story where Ethan's boss tried it on with him, we never really got to see much of how it affected Marcus personally - the actual victim - as opposed to how it would impact Ethan and his career. It's a shame because I actually think Marcus worked well from what little we saw of him outside Ethan and his family. The Andersons really brought him down, IMO. Spoiler for next week: I would like to think this was leading somewhere - Jacob never really got to explore his sexuality as a teen, since he was being groomed and raped by his female teacher/adoptive dad's partner. So this might be a good opportunity to explore a bisexuality storyline; Jacob isn't that far removed from his teens [double-checked, he actually turns 20 at the end of this month] so it's perfectly plausible for him to discover a new facet of his sexuality. Unfortunately I can't see them going there, and we'll just have to settle for poor Arthur moping after the thoroughly undeserving Marshall (and Ethan with random flings I presume). |
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Hopefully they will the week after that though.