Emmerdale - Spoilers Discussion

[Bonobochick]

Please discuss spoilers here.

[sheepiefarm]

The spoiler that really intrigues me is the one that states....
Adam is shocked by Aaron's cool reaction

This would seem to suggest that, far from being disgusted / annoyed by the kiss, Adam (at least) wants to talk about it.
Doesn't sound like he's gonna run the proverbial mile then

It could be interesting to watch if it turns out that Adam (although not the one who initiated the kiss) is the one doing the pursuing.

[stl29tide]

I actually think that that would be a lot more interesting and in a way make more sense. Up until this point Adam hasn't had a relationship with anyone. He could very well be gay and was just thrown off by Aaron attempting something like that. Aaron is obviously going to just act like it wasn't a big deal. I'm not sure Adam will actually try to persue Aaron though. He's extremely close to his family, especially his sisters and I couldn't see him betraying Holly like that, but, I think he will like Aaron, he just won't know exactly what's going on or what to do. I have no idea if that even made sense, but, I think this storyline could be really good.

[carld2]

I'd wondered if it meant that Adam is shocked by the whole thing, and wants to talk about what happened (a drunken Aaron trying to kiss him), and then he's surprised when Aaron acts like it's not a big deal, or Aaron wants to deny the whole thing. I'm not sure if that means Adam is interested in Aaron or if he just wants to get past this move Aaron made on him.

[sheepiefarm]

Nov 19, 2009 22:37:44 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I'd wondered if it meant that Adam is shocked by the whole thing, and wants to talk about what happened (a drunken Aaron trying to kiss him), and then he's surprised when Aaron acts like it's not a big deal, or Aaron wants to deny the whole thing. I'm not sure if that means Adam is interested in Aaron or if he just wants to get past this move Aaron made on him.

Damn - I hadn't even considered that possibilty

[alicat]

Friday 11 December 7pm

Aaron (Danny Miller) attempts to shut out the events from the night before, while Adam (Adam Thomas) lies to Holly (Sophie Powles) about what happened. When he tries to reach out to Aaron he's shocked by his cool reaction. Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing?

I'm remaining optimistic. In last night's ep we saw Adam taking an anti Holly/Aaron stance - on the surface he could just be the over-protective brother, but if he disliked Aaron that much, then he wouldn't hang around with him himself.

Look at the language of the spoiler - Adam 'tries to reach out to Aaron' which is different from saying 'tries to talk to Aaron', much more emotive. Also, Adam lies to Holly. Now if Adam was really just the over-protective brother, wouldn't he want to seize the opportunity to split Holly/Aaron once and for all? I think Adam has his own reasons for not wanting his family to know about the 'moment' between Aaron and himself. And why would Adam be 'shocked' by Aaron's cool reaction. If it meant nothing to Adam, surely he'd be surprised, but 'shocked' is a bit of a strong word. With the question "Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing" it seems to me that Adam is of the belief that it was in fact 'something', and he doesn't want to divulge the 'something' to his family!

There, I rest my case and pray I'm right

[jblaze08]

Nov 20, 2009 11:02:10 GMT -5 alicat said:

Friday 11 December 7pm

Aaron (Danny Miller) attempts to shut out the events from the night before, while Adam (Adam Thomas) lies to Holly (Sophie Powles) about what happened. When he tries to reach out to Aaron he's shocked by his cool reaction. Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing?

I'm remaining optimistic. In last night's ep we saw Adam taking an anti Holly/Aaron stance - on the surface he could just be the over-protective brother, but if he disliked Aaron that much, then he wouldn't hang around with him himself.

Look at the language of the spoiler - Adam 'tries to reach out to Aaron' which is different from saying 'tries to talk to Aaron', much more emotive. Also, Adam lies to Holly. Now if Adam was really just the over-protective brother, wouldn't he want to seize the opportunity to split Holly/Aaron once and for all? I think Adam has his own reasons for not wanting his family to know about the 'moment' between Aaron and himself. And why would Adam be 'shocked' by Aaron's cool reaction. If it meant nothing to Adam, surely he'd be surprised, but 'shocked' is a bit of a strong word. With the question "Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing" it seems to me that Adam is of the belief that it was in fact 'something', and he doesn't want to divulge the 'something' to his family!

There, I rest my case and pray I'm right

wow.. that was well put together now I'm even more excited than i already was..

[sheepiefarm]

Nov 20, 2009 11:02:10 GMT -5 alicat said:

Friday 11 December 7pm

Aaron (Danny Miller) attempts to shut out the events from the night before, while Adam (Adam Thomas) lies to Holly (Sophie Powles) about what happened. When he tries to reach out to Aaron he's shocked by his cool reaction. Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing?

I'm remaining optimistic. In last night's ep we saw Adam taking an anti Holly/Aaron stance - on the surface he could just be the over-protective brother, but if he disliked Aaron that much, then he wouldn't hang around with him himself.

Look at the language of the spoiler - Adam 'tries to reach out to Aaron' which is different from saying 'tries to talk to Aaron', much more emotive. Also, Adam lies to Holly. Now if Adam was really just the over-protective brother, wouldn't he want to seize the opportunity to split Holly/Aaron once and for all? I think Adam has his own reasons for not wanting his family to know about the 'moment' between Aaron and himself. And why would Adam be 'shocked' by Aaron's cool reaction. If it meant nothing to Adam, surely he'd be surprised, but 'shocked' is a bit of a strong word. With the question "Can Aaron convince Adam it was nothing" it seems to me that Adam is of the belief that it was in fact 'something', and he doesn't want to divulge the 'something' to his family!

There, I rest my case and pray I'm right

You just said everything I was thinking & hoping

>>>starts praying with Alicat<<<

[jnn111]

Thursday 10 December 7pm

Aaron (Danny Miller), Adam (Adam Thomas) and Holly (Sophie Powles) are on a night out when Aaron is asked for ID, Holly goes off with her friends and the lads leave. On the way home, Aaron almost crashes the car and caught up in the moment he moves in to kiss Adam.


Been reading this a couple of times. "he moves in to kiss Adam." Does this mean they don't kiss. I'm hoping they do ;D

[alicat]

Nov 20, 2009 15:02:17 GMT -5 jblaze08 said:

wow.. now I'm even more excited than i already was..

That's the spirit!

Nov 20, 2009 15:45:26 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

You just said everything I was thinking & hoping

>>>starts praying with Alicat<<<

*clasps hands together* Dear Gavin, who art in charge ... ;D

Nov 21, 2009 2:09:25 GMT -5 jnn111 said:

Thursday 10 December 7pm

Aaron (Danny Miller), Adam (Adam Thomas) and Holly (Sophie Powles) are on a night out when Aaron is asked for ID, Holly goes off with her friends and the lads leave. On the way home, Aaron almost crashes the car and caught up in the moment he moves in to kiss Adam.


Been reading this a couple of times. "he moves in to kiss Adam." Does this mean they don't kiss. I'm hoping they do ;D

A while back on another forum (Digital Spy), someone posted the following unofficial spoiler on the Emmerdale Rumour thread:

Thursday 11th December

Aaron Livesy and Adam Barton the bar after being thrown out because they are underage. Aaron loses control of the car on the way home. After narrowly missing another car Adam checks Aaron`s cut. Aaron goes in for a kiss and Adam pulls away. Aaron is left horrified by his own actions.

The poster got asked for a source, and they said:

Sorry i can't say where i got the info from, but those who follow EastEnders spoilers thread will know i've posted correct spoilers in the past. Hope that helps.

The spoiler got posted before the ITV press centre released the official ones for THAT week in December, and the two do seem to hang together. But I've no personal experience of this poster at all, so can't say one way or the other.

If we take it as true though, the question is, at what stage does Adam 'pull away' ... have they locked lips already at this point???

*goes to pray some more* ;D

[valso]

I tend to be cautiously optimistic too.
What increase my hope that this will turn out to be a love story between Aaron and Adam is that the actor who plays Adam has his playtest with Danny Miller, if this was only a bad boy crush over a straight boy kind of story, that wouldn't have been necessary because it would have been mainly Aaron storyline.

Besides after watching the episodes, if I hadn't know about a gay storyline for Aaron I would have put my money on Adam instead. Like Alicat said he keeps saying he wants to protect Holly and keep her away from Aaron but at the same time he keeps hanging around with him and looks at him with a sort of mixed admiration and respect.

Like I said at firs I'm cautiosly optimistic but just to be sure I'll go join Alicat to pray some more! ;D

[maya]

I tend to be optmistic too, of course we can't be sure at the moment but I hope they will go all the way with this storyline because the characters have great potential. I always had a soft spot for bad boy/good boy love story so I really really hope to see Aaron and Adam together down the road.

[carld2]

The pulling away part -- since Aaron is dating Adam's sister, and may be tipsy, and they just almost got in a car accident, I can see why Adam might pull away. I do wonder what the next beat of the story will be. Aaron convincing Adam to stay quiet because he wants to keep seeing Holly? Will this poison the friendship between Aaron and Adam? Or will this lead to more? I think one of the reasons Aaron has been drawn to Adam is Adam has been so kind to him and so supportive. Will that change now? Will we see Adam turn against Aaron, and Aaron lash out, or will Adam begin to develop serious feelings for Aaron?

I'd be happy if they got into a secret relationship which didn't involve Aaron dating Holly, but I know that would be the less soapy storyline.

[overtherainbow]

I think alicat posted "leans in for a kiss" or something to that extent. I really hope we'll get to see a kiss, and that Adam doesn't pull away before it happens. I don't care about Adam's reaction afterwards. I just want a kiss dammit! lol.

[sheepiefarm]

You know, there is just a teensie weensie part of me that is beginning to wonder if we haven't just jumped the gun with all of this and this turns out to be nothing more than a flash in pan

So I have been trying to think of reasons why it will likely happen.

1. Adam Thomas entered the show as part of a new family unit (Mum, Dad and two sisters) - and yet he was asked to take his screen test with Danny Millar. This would suggest to me that his "major" story-arc is gonna involve a lot of screentime with Danny Millar (Aaron) and be of a nature which requires some level of on-screen "chemistry"

2. Emmerdale has the best history of UK soaps in having gay characters & storylines as part of it's show.
Jason Kirk (Paddy's cousin) - primarily a secondary character but did have a "fling with a married man" storyline
Zoe Tate - Major character for many years - numerous "romance" stories, though nothing headlining.
Paul Blackstock - Major character who held numerous storylines. Was a drag artiste who did stints in the woolpack too.
Ivan - minor character - bisexual, had an affair with Paul which eventually fell apart
Jonny - minor character - was a vet who eventually married Paul
Grayson - Major character - married bisexual who had an affair with Paul
Jasmine - Major character - had an on-off lesbian affair with Debbie Dingle - and she is also a Major character who is currently Aarons relative & boss.

They have never done the gay teen-boi coming out angst & heartbreak story as yet - so maybe it's time...

Also - if Aaron is the principle player then he is currently strongly linked to Paddy & Debbie - both of whom would be obvious character choices to "play-into" that kinda storyline.

3. Adam Barton - as a newcomer, has no history or previous relationship entanglements with girls which would would have to be resolved to make the story credible - he is basically a blank canvas for the show to do with what they want.

That's all I can come up with - maybe it's enough.

[carld2]

I definitely think this story will have legs. They wouldn't just have Aaron try to kiss Adam for a whim. I'm not sure as to where the story will go, or even when this will pick up again (they tend to drag some stories out) but it must have some big importance. Whether it's going to be about Aaron/Adam eventually becoming a couple, or just about Aaron struggling with his feelings for Adam while Adam struggles with telling his sister that her boyfriend tried to kiss him, I'm not sure.

Surely there are some type of long term plans for Adam and Aaron though, one way or another. Holly seems like more of an afterthought here.

[devillies]

i kinda hoped they would kiss but it seems like they don't from spoiler

[overtherainbow]

Nov 21, 2009 19:45:38 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I definitely think this story will have legs. They wouldn't just have Aaron try to kiss Adam for a whim. I'm not sure as to where the story will go, or even when this will pick up again (they tend to drag some stories out) but it must have some big importance. Whether it's going to be about Aaron/Adam eventually becoming a couple, or just about Aaron struggling with his feelings for Adam while Adam struggles with telling his sister that her boyfriend tried to kiss him, I'm not sure.

Surely there are some type of long term plans for Adam and Aaron though, one way or another. Holly seems like more of an afterthought here.

Yep, I think the story will happen too. Of course it seems like it will take A LONG time before any of them comes to terms with their sexuality, but it will happen eventually I believe.

I don't think they would go to all this trouble, Aaron kissing Adam on a fluke. If they did then Aaron would have been cool about it instead of trying to explain what happened and trying to convince Adam that it didn't mean anything. Seems like someone is in denial

I don't think the sources would have written about the gay storyline if it was just a kiss and nothing more either. I think it will definitely happen, but like I said, it will probably take a long time before anyone will admit to anything.

[tihkon2]

Just a reminder. The spoilers don't even say they'll kiss. They say Aaron leans in to kiss Adam, and Adam pulls away.

So I'm betting if they don't kiss, the people who only want to see two men kiss are going to be wildly upset! But that'll be their own fault as nowhere does it say they will kiss. ;D

I'll be very happy if they do, but I'm not expecting it. This storyline is in it's early early days yet.

[carld2]

I do think there will be some upset, which I can understand, since there hasn't been a lot of male affection on shows this year. The spoiler does all but say they won't kiss, so at least the show is being upfront.

I think it's probably better this way. If the story isn't about a relationship, then this isn't a tease, like the Corrie Nick/Todd kiss (which is often still referred to in the press as Corrie's first gay kiss!). Fans will know what they're getting from the start.

Then there are other soaps, which immediately have their male couple kiss, then avoid any such moment from then on, which leads fans on only to disappoint them. Even if Aaron and Adam do get together, it's probably going to be a while, and hopefully their first kiss will be under better circumstances.

Emmerdale is also a fairly conservative show. They've had men kiss in the past (the last producer before this one was apparently so against the idea that two men did not even kiss at their own wedding, but she's gone!), but it won't be anything too heavy, most likely. If it happens I do wonder how it will be, as these are two hormonal, sexy guys, so if they are going to go for it then it's not just going to be a peck. I guess we'll cross those lips when we come to them.

[cheerios]

Nov 21, 2009 19:45:38 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I definitely think this story will have legs. They wouldn't just have Aaron try to kiss Adam for a whim. I'm not sure as to where the story will go, or even when this will pick up again (they tend to drag some stories out) but it must have some big importance. Whether it's going to be about Aaron/Adam eventually becoming a couple, or just about Aaron struggling with his feelings for Adam while Adam struggles with telling his sister that her boyfriend tried to kiss him, I'm not sure.

Surely there are some type of long term plans for Adam and Aaron though, one way or another. Holly seems like more of an afterthought here.

I'm happy they're doing a gay storyline and if they do put the boys together I hope they actually show them kiss.

I wonder if they had been wanting to do a gay storyline for a while. Or is this something they thought of just recently to be more modern. And what made them choose Aaron to be the start of the confused feelings. Adam is new and is a blank sheet, so they can do whatever they want with him. From how Aaron is written I thought he was into girls. And it is a bit surprising when I thought he really liked Holly. Then suddenly he likes Adam enough to try and kiss him.

[overtherainbow]

Nov 22, 2009 4:09:58 GMT -5 tihkon2 said:

Just a reminder. The spoilers don't even say they'll kiss. They say Aaron leans in to kiss Adam, and Adam pulls away.

So I'm betting if they don't kiss, the people who only want to see two men kiss are going to be wildly upset! But that'll be their own fault as nowhere does it say they will kiss. ;D

I'll be very happy if they do, but I'm not expecting it. This storyline is in it's early early days yet.

I know. He will probably lean in for the kiss and Adam won't do it, so he gets rejected. That's why I think this storyline will take a long time, I mean before they finally get together. Even if Aaron has feelings for Adam it's obviously Adam is still either unsure of his feelings or is denying it. It will be a lot of push and pull before they become a couple or whatever.

I wish we would get a kiss in December, but it's doubtful from the spoilers. I don't mind though, as long as they kiss when they get together. As of now I'm happy as long as this storyline gets started and we get to see Aaron has feelings for his mate. Sometimes the emotional turmoil can be just as good to watch as all the physical aspects. I can't wait to see Aaron develop feelings for Adam and for Adam to come around. It will be great!

[alicat]

Nov 21, 2009 18:32:17 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

That's all I can come up with - maybe it's enough.

My reasons for staying positive ...

Gavin Blyth, the show's relatively new exec producer, seems to like slow-burn sl's. With the current Wylde/Lamb bigamy sl, GB has been taking time to establish all the characters in the village since January of this year, and the reveal is only set to happen over the Christmas / New Year period, with the consequences likely to continue for many months.

With AA, it feels to me like GB has also been setting the stage so far. Aaron has a new and more sympathetic surrogate family and the Bartons have arrived and become established within the village. The Mum and Dad Bartons have taken a dislike to Aaron after the time he nearly set light to their barn and reported Dad Barton to the police.

We know that Aaron is set to try and kiss Adam, before trying to convince Adam it was nothing. Also, we've been told that Aaron has a big sl coming up. So I'm assuming it's a sexuality-related sl, seeing as that's what's being set up right now - surely there's not much time to change track on this?

Question is, is Adam just a means of showing that Aaron's attracted to men, and therefore an early stepping stone on Aaron's journey, or does the sl involve both Adam and Aaron in a relationship, somewhere along the line.

I'd guess that this is going to be a slow-burn, coming out, possible romance between the two of them. If Adam was just a stepping stone for Aaron, then why was Adam's screen test with Danny? And why hasn't Adam had any female interest sl's? And why bother to build a rapport between Adam and Aaron, unless Adam's going to be the sympathetic friend to Aaron during his journey? But then, I think the 'sympathetic friends' for Aaron have already been established - Paddy, possibly Debbie / Ryan. The writers could have had Aaron trying it on with some random bloke at a club. So why else build up the AA dynamic? Why else show these two being slowly drawn together, and even having other characters go to the trouble of pointing it out - eg Dad Barton wondering why Aaron helped out at the farm that time.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how this develops, as develop I think it will . I'd like it to go forward at a natural-seeming pace, so I'll not be disappointed if there's no actual lip-locking at this stage. I'll settle for lots of angsty looks from both boys for now - I think they'll do that well.

[overtherainbow]

alicat, thank you It sounds much better when you say it like that! I hope you are right.

[cheerios]

Nov 22, 2009 10:12:50 GMT -5 alicat said:

Question is, is Adam just a means of showing that Aaron's attracted to men, and therefore an early stepping stone on Aaron's journey, or does the sl involve both Adam and Aaron in a relationship, somewhere along the line.

That is what I have been wondering. Is Adam there just to awake these feelings in Aaron and then be a supportive friend through all of this. Or will he be taking the journey with Aaron and we see what the future holds for them.