Emmerdale - Spoilers Discussion

[esmi]

Nov 25, 2009 3:06:38 GMT -5 bluestreak said:

Actually I'd really like to see him be the antithesis of Lenny and start out playing Adam's little devil only to be transformed by love into Adam's little angel! Just writing that makes me feel warm and fuzzy!

Oh and so that I have it on record with the community here, I'm biased in my opinions because I think they're both hot. I'm bit partial to Danny Miller over Adam Thomas, though. The buzz cut looks delicious. ;D

You can say that again. There is something about these boys that causes warm fuzziness ;D

[carld2]

It's interesting that the magazine blurb on this story says "Aaron struggles with his sexuality." So I wonder if that just means the story will continue to be seen through Aaron's eyes, or if it's telling us anything else, as Aaron's the only one mentioned.

[alicat]

Perhaps we’re getting Aaron’s journey as the first part of a slow-burn sl? Maybe Adam’s ambiguity is continuing, albeit with subtle signs directed at more dedicated viewers? Hard to say really, I think how Adam ‘reaches out to Aaron’ on Friday 11th Dec will make things clearer.

For me, the positive thing about the spoiler is that it shows how ED are running with the sl at a peak viewing time of year – they must rate it!

[overtherainbow]

Like I've said before, it kinda worries me that both AfterElton and all the spoilers mostly focus on Aaron. I'll be so disappointed if this is all about Aaron and not Aaron and Adam getting together..

On the other hand, A&A have amazing chemistry, and there is this underlaying something in every scene they are in together. That gives me hope, but yeah.. Would be extremely disappointed if this storyline was just about Aaron. Maybe it's mostly about Aaron and his struggles first? Maybe Adam will come along eventually? That's what I'm hoping anyway. I try to stay positive! lol.

[valso]

Thanks for all the new info Alicat and for the new spoiler Final.
I expected that the s/l was mainly focused on Aaron, I mean for a guy like him finding boys attractive have to be the end of his world and I'm expecting fireworks from Aaron.
I'm sure that Adam will try to support him in this phase and I hope they eventually end up together.
My being positive about this is supported also by the fact that they're planning a long and big storyline for Aaron. So even if they won't address the A&A romance immediately I hope that in the long run there will be time and space for it too.

[carld2]

Yes, I do think that most of the story will be about Aaron's struggles, at least initially. I imagine this will be a long term story, and since I don't know if the show will bring in more gay characters just for this storyline, I think if he ever does get involved with another man then Adam may be the only real candidate. They chose to start this with Adam for a reason, and we have never seen Adam have any real interest in the opposite sex, aside from some mild flirting. I'm hoping the early stages will be about what Aaron's going through, the likely conflict with himself, the Dingles, the fallout between Adam and Holly, and then eventually something between Aaron and Adam.

I guess it depends on the response they get to the story. I know some have said this is somehow a ridiculous story because the characters aren't gay, but we don't know what Adam is, and Aaron is only about 17 or 18. I think it's believable, and the actors are more than capable of pulling it off.

Adam and Aaron have great chemistry together and no matter what happens I'm hoping they will at least maintain their friendship.

[maya]

thank you so much for the scan Alicat!! Can't wait for the episode ;D

[overtherainbow]

Nov 25, 2009 12:02:37 GMT -5 carld2 said:

Adam and Aaron have great chemistry together and no matter what happens I'm hoping they will at least maintain their friendship.

I know. But the thing is that I REALLY want them to end up together. I want something more than just friendship. They have this amazing chemistry going on and it would be a waste if the writers didn't explore that.

[alicat]

Nov 25, 2009 13:12:42 GMT -5 maya said:

thank you so much for the scan Alicat!! Can't wait for the episode ;D

Oh phew, it worked then. What a relief ;D.

[sheepiefarm]

....and we're still none-the-wiser as to whether there is lip-lock or not ;D

Thanks for the pic Alicat

Isn't it funny that when we get invested in a storyline we end up buying mags & papers we would never dream of ordinarily - just because there is an article about said storyline ;D
I do that too

[alicat]

Nov 25, 2009 13:33:07 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Isn't it funny that when we get invested in a storyline we end up buying mags & papers we would never dream of ordinarily - just because there is an article about said storyline ;D
I do that too

Lol! *glances at copies of ReFresh magazine*

I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time before Attitude does an interview with Danny / Adam, and no doubt I'll be in line for that too ;D

[arlita]

sorry for my English guys wo wow wo wait a minute i saw this pic and noticed one thing we know that aaron tries to kiss adam but I don't know is just me or maybe im confused but notice how Adam turns his head as if trying to correspond the kiss to adam? so this means that aaron is not completely indifferent to adam or maybe im wrong and adam is just try make sure that aaron is ok I read your opinions and I agree that this alleged relationship takes its time to establish whether this is primarily the intention of the producer of ED with these guys I really prefer that aaron be gay and not a bisexual guy but the fact that adam don’t have a girlfriend makes it much more suspect even more than aaron himself well whatever the future of these boys I like what I'm seeing now

[bluestreak]

Nov 25, 2009 12:02:37 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I know some have said this is somehow a ridiculous story because the characters aren't gay, but we don't know what Adam is, and Aaron is only about 17 or 18.

You're right, Aaron may be legitimately bisexual. It bother's me when some people dismiss this as a possibility, as though sexuality is a dichotomy and you have to be either straight or gay. Plus, I think most bisexuals have a preference for one sex over the other and this preference can change with time. Maybe Aaron legitimately likes Holly, but the presence of Adam has awakened a whole other side in him that he not only didn't know existed, but actually prefers. Given how volatile adolescents are, it's not unreasonable.

What's unreasonable is that people think they know what a "gay character" is and can separate the gay from the straight at a personality level. Real life constantly proves that you just can't do this reliably.

[valso]

Thank you Alicat for all the spoilers and for the pic. I really can't wait to see how the scene will play out, I'm sure that Adam will be shocked ;D

[alicat]

Nov 25, 2009 13:33:07 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

....and we're still none-the-wiser as to whether there is lip-lock or not ;D

Well now looking at the "What's on TV" spoiler, it's looking unlikely that there'll be lip-lock just yet. Perhaps Aaron makes a move that can't be anything other than a move towards kissing Adam, but then because Adam pulls away (we don't know why), Aaron can deny that he was making a move in the first place. And this way, the two (hopefully) won't go round avoiding each other, so the sl can move forwards.

This is such a slow-burn sl, but I love it ;D. Adam doesn't have to give himself away at this stage, so the ambiguity can remain on his side, while Aaron's feelings are clear and he begins his own "sexuality struggle". I'm guessing we continue to get the subtle signs from Adam, yet nothing blatant.

Of course this all depends on whether the magazine spoiler is to be believed - *trusts no one*. Until we hear from the official spoilers, I'm not taking anything for granted!

[sheepiefarm]

Is that Holly in the latest pic - wow, didn't realise things go that far with them.

Shocked - ha ha - oh we're not shocked - we've been waiting an eternity for it ;D

[flippa]

Thanks for the info Alicat good to see such excellent detective skills still ;D

*shoves copy of ReFresh back under mattress* ;D

[cheerios]

Nov 25, 2009 15:38:59 GMT -5 bluestreak said:

Nov 25, 2009 12:02:37 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I know some have said this is somehow a ridiculous story because the characters aren't gay, but we don't know what Adam is, and Aaron is only about 17 or 18.

You're right, Aaron may be legitimately bisexual. It bother's me when some people dismiss this as a possibility, as though sexuality is a dichotomy and you have to be either straight or gay. Plus, I think most bisexuals have a preference for one sex over the other and this preference can change with time. Maybe Aaron legitimately likes Holly, but the presence of Adam has awakened a whole other side in him that he not only didn't know existed, but actually prefers. Given how volatile adolescents are, it's not unreasonable.

What's unreasonable is that people think they know what a "gay character" is and can separate the gay from the straight at a personality level. Real life constantly proves that you just can't do this reliably.

Yeah I could see Aaron being bisexual more than just be gay. So many people say that being bi is just denying being straight or gay. So there are not many bisexual characters in television. Many bisexuals are happy either way, some sway a bit more towards girls, and than some a bit more towards boys.

I think he does truly like Holly and why not. She's pretty, smart, funny, independent, and has spunk to her. But your right something about Adam awoke in Aaron and took him by surprise just like the rest of us. And these feelings are getting stronger and deeper than what he felt for Holly. It kinda sounds like he woke up one day and his pull to Adam was stronger than his pull to Holly.

I do wonder if this has been stated if this is going to be Aaron's journey of sexuality alone or if Adam will be joining him.

I do hope that Aaron talks to Paddy about all of this. If Paddy hasn't thrown Aaron out after tampering with Chaz's boyfriend's breaks and trashing his house for a party. I don't see him ditching Aaron because he's having confusing feelings for his mate. And we all know that Aaron doesn't do well when he bottles it all up. He's going to need someone to talk to about all this. And he doesn't have many people close to him, that he would actually open up to them. I can see Paddy not knowing exactly what to do, but being their for Aaron and just listening. I also see him getting a lot of literature for Aaron to read.

[alicat]

Nov 26, 2009 21:01:44 GMT -5 @flippa said:

good to see such excellent detective skills still ;D

Indeed

www.emmerdale.me.uk/

(and no I'm not going - was just curious, that's all)

Nov 27, 2009 3:26:40 GMT -5 cheerios said:

I think he does truly like Holly and why not. She's pretty, smart, funny, independent, and has spunk to her. But your right something about Adam awoke in Aaron and took him by surprise just like the rest of us. And these feelings are getting stronger and deeper than what he felt for Holly. It kinda sounds like he woke up one day and his pull to Adam was stronger than his pull to Holly.

No disrespect to Aaron (also, he's not even real lol) but isn't Holly a bit out of his league? I'd have put her with one of the village's business types, someone she could certainly engage in witty banter with, as that seems to be more her sort of thing. Scriptwise it makes sense for Aaron to be trying it on with her because of the Adam connection, but ultimately I could never see Holly/Aaron working. I know they end up together for a while, but I get the feeling that Holly's more 'oh all right then' rather than 'omg he's amazing'.

Nov 27, 2009 3:26:40 GMT -5 cheerios said:

I do hope that Aaron talks to Paddy about all of this. He's going to need someone to talk to about all this. And he doesn't have many people close to him, that he would actually open up to them. I can see Paddy not knowing exactly what to do, but being their for Aaron and just listening. I also see him getting a lot of literature for Aaron to read.

I foresee pamphlets too lol. Also, Paddy has a gay cousin, so he'll have something to draw on. I think that the Paddy/Aaron scenes will be lovely.


Oh and one other thought about the "Aaron's Love Shock" pic - it shows that ED do bedroom scenes

[alicat]

Nov 26, 2009 18:21:37 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Shocked - ha ha - oh we're not shocked - we've been waiting an eternity for it ;D

Lol - we have four yt channels watching and waiting for this complete surprise to happen

[sheepiefarm]

With regards to the pic of Aaron & Holly in bed...

is that not a pic of him & Victoria Sugden

I'm colour blind so I can't tell by the hair or the bedsheets


ETA - okay I've just re-watched the clip of A & V in bed and I'm more certain than ever that it's them & not A & H

[alicat]

Nov 27, 2009 6:19:28 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

With regards to the pic of Aaron & Holly in bed...

is that not a pic of him & Victoria Sugden

I'm colour blind so I can't tell by the hair or the bedsheets


ETA - okay I've just re-watched the clip of A & V in bed and I'm more certain than ever that it's them & not A & H

sheepiefarm, you're a genius!! I've just re-watched the Aaron / Victoria scene (titled Aaron cashes in his V-card on stl29tide's channel) and the scene matches perfectly - bedsheets, headboard and walls.

I was thinking last night actually how the pic didn't look like Holly, and I'd even gone as far as to wonder if it may have been Hannah , but then dismissed that as I thought that would have the plot meandering way too far from AA.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! ;D ;D ;D

[alicat]

Well the TV Times spoiler seems more in-keeping with the pace of this sl so far. Sounds like Aaron's hardly ripping Holly's clothes off ;D

[sheepiefarm]

Nov 27, 2009 13:13:47 GMT -5 alicat said:

Well the TV Times spoiler seems more in-keeping with the pace of this sl so far. Sounds like Aaron's hardly ripping Holly's clothes off ;D

yeah - but it's kinda conflicting earlier stuff
>>>>>Aaron freezes<<<<<

Gah!!!!!!

[maya]

I like the new spoilers, I'm happy that Aaron attraction to Adam isn't only view due to one night of drinking ;D