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Post by Bonobochick on Aug 1, 2008 11:42:38 GMT -5
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 13:07:32 GMT -5
Danke Ivan! OO, so much tension. ;D
I do have to say, even though I'm a low-angst person, I'm enjoying this little 2 days of tension and arguing. It's realistic to see even the happiest couple can have a problem or two.
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Post by sozment on Aug 1, 2008 13:07:56 GMT -5
awww...the fighting is breaking my heart. The look on Olli's face. Christian might as well have slapped him (I have no idea what he is saying to him..but oh my gosh). My heart hurts. *sobs* Christian is hurt, Olli is hurt... *sob* As for Olli climbing in bed with him and snuggling..that my dears is the things dreams are made of. sighh..... Thank you for the video..I'll be patient for the next.  |
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 13:10:17 GMT -5
I had to giggle at Christian more or less demanding that Olli read his mind. Since that is usually what women are accused of wanting their partners to do. ;D
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 1, 2008 13:24:24 GMT -5
I got the impression that Olli wasn't exactly sober when he entered the bedroom  which (to me) would kinda explain why he wanted a cuddle - given the fact that as far as he is concerned Christian was okay with him going out for the night. When Olli walked into the living room in the morning with his bright cheerfulness - I just felt the hairs on the back of my neck rise up - Christian was in no mood for a happy cheerful Olli *sigh* I think this is a case of wires being completely crossed - neither one of them reading the situation or being honest enough with the other to understand the extent of what they are actually feeling - though I suspect neither was prepared to listen to the other anyway. I do find it slightly strange that Olli - who has totally supported and pushed Christian all the way for this boxing match wasn't able to sustain this support for just one more day. Before anyone gets het up - I'm not saying he didn't have legitimate reasons to be angry - he was totally justified with it. I would just have found it slightly more "in character" if we had seen Olli frustrated / angry / disappointed in the days leading up to this - for Olli to lose it like that at the last minute - even to the point of considering not going to the boxing match - it just seems a undermine his previous support to Christian. |
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 1, 2008 13:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 1, 2008 13:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by restenergy on Aug 1, 2008 13:40:36 GMT -5
Thank you, Ivan!! We all love you.  |
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Post by I ♥ Blaine on Aug 1, 2008 13:41:02 GMT -5
My fave part is how they both smiling during the kissing.
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Post by psionycx on Aug 1, 2008 13:43:12 GMT -5
Ah Ivan, many, many thanks!
Well, I guess Christian's out now.
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Post by GayTime on Aug 1, 2008 13:43:59 GMT -5
Ivan - Thank you, thank you, thank you
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 13:44:37 GMT -5
Well, I guess Christian's out now. What gave it away   Pretty, pretty baby |
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Post by hach on Aug 1, 2008 13:48:51 GMT -5
Thanks, IvanIV!  |
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 1, 2008 13:48:51 GMT -5
Get up Christian!!!!! Oh sooo cheesy but wasn't I just shouting it too I think that's the most relaxed happiest kiss we've seen yet. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 1, 2008 13:49:36 GMT -5
I just watched part 1, so here's my initial reaction. Thanks, Ivan.
I don't really understand German at all, but I believe that Christian just went off on Oliver, because he stayed out late AND came home drunk from the night before. Oliver's mad that Christian could believe that he would cheat on him. Judith is pissed off at herself, for getting involved with Gollum and Lydia's just dissapointed, betrayed and hurt that her boyfriend and her OWN mother slept together.
Nobody's happy in the House of Ollian and I'm loving it. Now THIS stuff is what I'm used to from my teen years watching soap operas here in the states.
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sozment
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Post by sozment on Aug 1, 2008 13:50:05 GMT -5
That was absolutely amazing! Thank you Ivan and thank you VL!! Great acting, great everything.
I especially loved the kiss at the end. Something incredibly sexy about Christian holding Olli's face with the boxing gloves on...sigh.. wow...
Can someone please tell me what Gregor was saying to Christian right before the fight?
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 13:51:09 GMT -5
You know if ARD had a preview function like RTL-Now where you can watch one episode ahead.... I so would be shelling out those Euros right now. I wanna know what happens next! It's so not fair. :
Gregor tells him to think of his dream. Christian says what kind of dream is this if I can't even love the person I love? Gregor tells him that he has trained so hard for this, he will step into the ring and beat down those two assholes (Wolle and Axel) and everything else can wait for an hour.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 1, 2008 13:53:28 GMT -5
IMO - Even though Christian would probably not admit this about himself, he IS more emotional about his feelings than Oliver. Not to say that he's more OPEN about them, but when he states that he "doesn't get upset", he usually does, because he can't control his reaction to things. Off to watch Part 2. Okay - I just watched part 2 and I'm on cloud nine. OMG...Oliver and Lydia complaining about their men at the House of Ollian, while Christian's thinking about Oliver NOT being at the match. Oh, I felt for those stubborn men who are in love with each other. Then, Oliver realizing how stupid he and Christian have been acting towards each other, knowing that he's NEEDED at the match, running to be there for his MANN. The timing of everything WORKED for me, because when they finally kissed in public, which makes their relationship out in the open, made me so happy. Oh, Happy Day. Off to watch it again. I love everyone on this thread right now. ;D I had to giggle at Christian more or less demanding that Olli read his mind. Since that is usually what women are accused of wanting their partners to do. ;D |
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Post by Torrid German Love on Aug 1, 2008 13:53:43 GMT -5
Ivan, thank you so much for this.
It's breathtakingly beautiful!
Thanks is too small a word of appreciation! You know how much it means to all of us.
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Post by restenergy on Aug 1, 2008 13:56:03 GMT -5
Get up Christian!!!!! Oh sooo cheesy but wasn't I just shouting it too I think that's the most relaxed happiest kiss we've seen yet. I wanted to shout it out, too. I also thought it a bit strange that Olli wouldn't have gone to the match at first. On the other hand, it did let us have that scene where he suddenly comes to his senses, grabs Lydia, and rushes off to be there for his guy. That was such a cute little scene when he did that. On the other hand, we all sometimes do things in a fit of pique that we would later regret. At least Olli came to his senses before he could regret it! And that was a wonderful kiss at the end. ;D And is it just me, or does Olli look especially hot in that red t-shirt of his? BTW, Psionycx, what ever gives you the idea that Christian is out now? I have no idea what you are talking about.  ;D |
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 13:56:34 GMT -5
Thanks Ivan!
God, I need a cigarette now....
Bye!
;D
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 13:58:36 GMT -5
No, alcohol wasn't brought up in the convo.
Olli came in and comment about how upset Lydia and Judith have been. Christian bitched at him that he noticed that but he didn't notice that Christian needed him. Olli is all WTF? Christian says it was the day before his fight and Olli had nothing better to do than go clubbing with some ass from the gym. Olli says WTF? Christian told him that it was okay for him to do that. Christian says he wanted a bit more support. Olli is all what exactly do you think have I been doing for the last few months, standing back when Christian couldn't out himself, getting Chris an alibi girlfriend, sacrificing everything for Christian's testosterone level. Christian is all "Oh, what a great sacrifice". Olli tells him he is beginning to think all that testosterone is beginning to eat away Christian's brain (wowza). Christian yells that exactly a discussion like this is the last thing he needs. Olli says he is sure with a killer instinct like this there is no doubt that Christian is gonna do great in the ring.
(quoted from memory, not the exact words)
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 1, 2008 14:02:37 GMT -5
Those eyes get me everytime  Blissfully unaware....... .....of how Christian really feels   But I just love how happy this kiss is. |
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 14:05:30 GMT -5
To me among the most touching scenes today (other than the obvious one) was Christian talking to Gregor and saying his great dream isn't so great if he can't love the person he loves. And the Olli/Lydia scene:
Lydia (talking about her and Sebastian): Doesn't it suck that you never know that you have fallen for the wrong guy until it's too late.
Olli (mumbling): Christian isn't the wrong guy.
Lydia: And if you finally realize that it all was pointless from the start then you finally get over the fact that it's over.
Olli (protesting): But it's not over between us.
Lydia: Really, Olli, there is just no point to this. No. Point. At All.
Olli (blinks)
Lydia: Want a glass a wine, I know it's early but...
Olli jumps up, grabs Lydia and runs to the boxing ring.
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 1, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -5
To me among the most touching scenes today (other than the obvious one) was Christian talking to Gregor and saying his great dream isn't so great if he can't love the person he loves. And the Olli/Lydia scene: Lydia (talking about her and Sebastian): Doesn't it suck that you never know that you have fallen for the wrong guy until it's too late. Olli (mumbling): Christian isn't the wrong guy. Lydia: And if you finally realize that it all was pointless from the start then you finally get over the fact that it's over. Olli (protesting): But it's not over between us. Lydia: Really, Olli, there is just no point to this. No. Point. At All. Olli (blinks) Lydia: Want a glass a wine, I know it's early but... Olli jumps up, grabs Lydia and runs to the boxing ring. Totally agree with this Lola - though will understand it better once it's subbed - but these two scenes just compoud to themselves how they really feel about each other. Christian's face before the fight was just misery itself and the moment where Olli suddenly realises he has to be there, grabs Lydia and rushes out of the flat (for me) is THE moment of the episode. |
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which (to me) would kinda explain why he wanted a cuddle - given the fact that as far as he is concerned Christian was okay with him going out for the night.
