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Post by evilgeniuslady on Aug 2, 2008 10:55:10 GMT -5
Looking through the caps while making icons today, I noticed something. This is from before Christian kisses Olli, when they are just talking: See the photographer standing there? Even before Christian kissed Olli he got a lot of pictures of them talking intimately to each other. I'm thinking it's a good thing Christian decided to out them, because otherwise they would have been the subject of quite a lot of gossip, and then they would have had to come up with a new alibi-girlfriend or something equally stupid to keep the press off their backs.
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Post by nachoarg2008 on Aug 2, 2008 13:37:23 GMT -5
Muchas gracias IvanIV :-)
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Post by floatilla on Aug 2, 2008 15:13:57 GMT -5
I am still loving the last 3 videos......Thanks alot Nanna, Tihkon... you are saints..... ....Have been watching them on a rotation that is probably not very healthy. As much as I love them all, I have to say that the 2nd video is prolly my favorite at the moment. The scenes between Olli and Chris at Charlies restaurant are one of my faves. In an understated way, they manage to explain the magnitude of their relationship, and in my opinion i think it was the first time we REALLY see how much Olli means to Christian.... and how jealous Christian can be. I also love the smiles between Olli and Christian in the ring... they are so big, so genuine, so full.....so happy. I could go on and on....I know the angst is about to begin but for now I will stay in my rose colored bubble and savor this... ;D
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Post by j9l45 on Aug 2, 2008 18:04:29 GMT -5
I also love the smiles between Olli and Christian in the ring... they are so big, so genuine, so full.....so happy. I do love seeing the characters grinning like idiots. That's what people in love do, especially when it's still new.
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Post by brownsugar on Aug 2, 2008 20:12:20 GMT -5
Hello everyone...my third post.
First, let me thank Nanna, Tihkon and Ivan...I am so greatful for your time and effort into bringing us none Gremans speakers the pleasure of the Olli and Christian storyline.
I'm still floating after seeing yesterday's episode. It was well worth the wait. I've been watching the last few clips on a loop.
I loved that the depth of their committment to one another was brought to the surface during these last couple of episodes:
We saw Christian's silent jealousy at seeing Olli with another man at Charlie's...his inability to sleep with worry that Olli hadn't returned home from clubbing...We saw Olli venting, drinking and going out with some random guy from the gym out of anger and dispair...We had their intense arguement with true feelings brought to the surface...We had Olli coming to his senses about the importance of their relationship and then quickly trying to get to the boxing match... And then with Christian losing the will to put his all into the match because Olli wasn't present at the time, and therefore what was the point. These scenes were so important in creating a clear picture of the strength of their relationship and how each man affected each other's life.
I loved Olli showing up just in time and shouting for Christian to.."Get up!" just beautiful. And the kiss at the end was pure perfection. Both men lost in that moment with their love for each other on full display in front of hundreds of people. I honestly had tears in my eyes. What an amazing moment.
Jo and Thore hit these last couple of episodes out of the ball park. There acting has been brilliant!!
I just can't wait for Monday!!
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Post by jaxie12 on Aug 3, 2008 4:37:40 GMT -5
BTW, anyone else wonder why on earth, Christian has gone "beddy bye" and Olli is alone? I would think after THAT kiss, they would be snuggling together someplace, letting Olli have his way with Christian..afterall, the man has been deprived. OMG I totally agree, but realistically Christian would be exhausted - he didn't sleep the night before and I know from experience that boxing is incredibly taxing. I imagine it would be quite realistic for Christian to go to bed early although it's kind of sad for us viewers that Olli didn't join him. Also everyone gets together to have a celebration afterward at NoLimits so yeah, tired ChristianYellow because it's a teensy weensy spoiler for monday.
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Post by sozment on Aug 3, 2008 9:55:32 GMT -5
I have watched the videos from the past 2 days several times over the weekend (putting it up on the myspaces and so on) and the one scene that I absolutely LOVE is when Olli climbs in bed with Christian... that is just SOOOo adorable. And then watching Christian just fall apart when he thinks Olli is not going to show up at the boxing match. Wondering if he has lost him, did he go to far? It's agonizing... then the happiness on his face when they hug after he wins the fight. Jo and Thore are really good actors and their chemistry is out the roof....amazing... the kiss is fantastic. Darn..now, I need to watch it again..then get a life. Ha...
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Post by seven14 on Aug 3, 2008 9:58:19 GMT -5
We saw Christian's silent jealousy at seeing Olli with another man at Charlie's...his inability to sleep with worry that Olli hadn't returned home from clubbing...We saw Olli venting, drinking and going out with some random guy from the gym out of anger and dispair...We had their intense arguement with true feelings brought to the surface...We had Olli coming to his senses about the importance of their relationship and then quickly trying to get to the boxing match... And then with Christian losing the will to put his all into the match because Olli wasn't present at the time, and therefore what was the point. These scenes were so important in creating a clear picture of the strength of their relationship and how each man affected each other's life. Hello All, Brownsugar Thank you. I am always feeling a little frustrated that so much of C/O's relationship is happening off screen, but your words are helping me to see that it's all these little things that is the relationship and it's happening right before us to see. I still won't get my walks in the park or laying in the sun together on the beach between Christian and Olli, but I will try and appreciate more what I am given. Finally, sex isn't everything....I tell myself, sex isn't everything..and I want to believe, BUT, Olli hasn't gotten any from Christian for "some" time before the fight and with upcoming events -being beaten up-he/they won't be loving one another at any time soon after . Christian wins the big fight...friends and family meet up to celebrate/congratulate and enjoy this happy moment with the guys. Then later in the evening after Christian is exhausted from all ( Per the Preview, Christian, according to and assumed by Axel is asleep.) , he STILL somehow elects to go to bed alone?? Of course, I shouldn't believe it just because Axel says it... I Understand we need whatever events that are going to happen to take place for the story to progress, but is that all we're going to get?....to me.... Once Again a few kisses??... fantastically Hot and Sweet as they were , but really that's all? I mean, can't they revel for a few days before the beat down? Can't they be a COUPLE for just a few days??? Uhhhh....I see the answer is No.
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 3, 2008 10:05:38 GMT -5
Apparently only when they spend that time mocking Gregor or patting Judith's head or dealing with Oliva's latest troubles
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 3, 2008 10:56:05 GMT -5
I don't know, I think the preview shows a logical progression of the story. There was certain to be a reaction from the homophobic, anti-gay faction---especially the idiot, Axel, since he got the beat-down from a Gay man. I still feel he's secretly turned-on by Christian and is jealous of Olli. I find the scenes with just closeness much more satisfying than blatant 'going-at-it' scenes. I can let my imagination fill in the blanks, as it were. Of course, others prefer a more clear demonstration...heh..ahem. To each, their own. But, really, there's not much more they can show that they haven't already. The guys kissing all over the place, the guys in bed, shirtless, the guys in the gym with only towels on, the guys in the apartment in boxers, etc. There have been plenty of scenes where no doubt is possible about the situation. Anything more and we'd be seeing something similar to Dante's Cove---and that would never make it on prime time, network television, not even in Germany, I suspect. ;D I don't find it strange for Christian to be alone in bed after all this. If he were my boyfriend and had gone through all this in a 48 hour period, you betcha I'd make sure he got rest and chill-time. Now, after the rest, well, heh---let's say we both would probably take a day off from work and not be seen by others all day ;D Geoff
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 3, 2008 11:14:09 GMT -5
Well for all we know Olli just ran down quickly to get the champagne I'm more curious how exactly this is supposed to work. I mean, shouldn't the house be filled with people? Meaning that if Olli called for help or even just if Axel made too much noise they would be heard?
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Post by seven14 on Aug 3, 2008 11:21:35 GMT -5
I find the scenes with just closeness much more satisfying than blatant 'going-at-it' scenes. I can let my imagination fill in the blanks, as it were. Of course, others prefer a more clear demonstration...heh..ahem. Geoff mgh48 I pulled that small bit from you, but not in any way because I want to start some heated back and forth....but, really, I am not looking for "going-at-it scenes." I just, wish the writers would give me the illusion whether before or after...but give me some illusion that some closeness other than kissing has taken place after one of the main issues of furstration on Olli's part was that they had not been sleeping together and Christian was not being loving even in private. It's all our own opinion and thank goodness for this board...but I really feel Christian is actually not upstairs asleep...perhaps Olli has run down to get a bottle of wine for their alone-time...but before any of that can happen...whether "going at it" or just "cuddling and talking while unwinding" after such a eventful and emotional day... WE won't get to see it...because, immediately Olli gets beaten up. I'd like a day of just them hanging out....walking along that bridge holding hands (that may be too out there, I don't know), sitting in Schneiders (sp) having a candle-light dinner....there are more ways to be close other then "going at it" I really sound personal and upset, I am truly am not. This is fun ...truly!!
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 3, 2008 11:31:45 GMT -5
oh, seven14...no, my friend. I wasn't referring to you with that observation. Sorry about lack of clarity; I need more coffee here. In the past, we've had discussions about the 'intimate scenes' and whether they were done right, were too explicit or not enough, etc. Or, I should say, words to that effect. Generally, some folks liked the more explicit scenes and some preferred the more 'suggestive' scenes. I fall into the latter category, though I certainly don't mind viewing our guys however they are shown. I wouldn't click the 'stop' button heh heh heh. I see your point more clearly now. Yeah, he could probably be upstairs waiting. You didn't sound upset or personal, at all And, I agree: seeing them in similar scenes like Gregor and Rebecca recently enjoyed would be a Good Thing. A pause before anything else happens would be nice. Maybe they go back to the cabin alone (many have suggested this before) for a couple of days---where Olli's love for Christian first started. That would be very appropriate and logical, too. And, well, just cute Geoff
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Post by seven14 on Aug 3, 2008 11:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by floatilla on Aug 3, 2008 19:40:03 GMT -5
Yeah I agree, it would be nice for them to be all couply and all and maybe that is what the writers intend. Maybe with them appearing to be the sanest in a group of nutcases, thats the writers way of showing them as a couple.....prolly not enough but thats my .02 cents in regards to this
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Post by psionycx on Aug 3, 2008 20:23:56 GMT -5
Well for all we know Olli just ran down quickly to get the champagne Well, Christian was just in a boxing match, and didn't sleep well the night before. I'm sure that staying up all night celebrating is probably a bit much for him. Plus, if Olli's in No Limits by himself then we have to assume it's the middle of the night, since we know the place is open early morning to late evening at the least. I can't think of any other reason Olli would be the only person there when Axel shows up.
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Post by brownsugar on Aug 3, 2008 22:29:18 GMT -5
Hi psionycx...nice to see you posting over here. It's Maxine from Afterelton.
It could be a number of reasons why Olli is alone in No Limits...Maybe Christian was just there with him and Olli suggested he would lock up so Christian could go get some rest since he had a long, hard day... Maybe Olli ran back down to No Limits, as someone suggested earlier, to get a bottle of wine so they could celebrate alone in bed...Maybe Christian had just ran upstairs for a moment but was to come back down to help Olli lock things up for the next day. I guess we will know in a few short hours.
I will be running home from work tomorrow and straight to the computer to find out the mystery of exactly what Olli was doing alone in No Limits?!
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Post by seven14 on Aug 3, 2008 22:35:08 GMT -5
Well for all we know Olli just ran down quickly to get the champagne Well, Christian was just in a boxing match, and didn't sleep well the night before. I'm sure that staying up all night celebrating is probably a bit much for him. Actually, Psionycx watching the video, the fight took place during day-time hours...lot of light streaming through the windows --so Christian probably isn't "staying up all night"...as Gregor is the Promoter/Manager and was at Christian's side...it's not unreasonable to believe that as the Owner and proud brother, he closed No Limits for the afternoon and will re-open in the early evening. Also, Per your quote, To your knowledge does Olli roam No Limits by himself in the middle of the night? We'll have to wait for the next showing, but I tend to think he does have a purpose for being down there alone and that is to get something...Whether it be Champagne, Wine, or Butter-Mints...I don't think it's so implausible for him to be kind enough to go downstairs and get whatever. It's just unfortunate that he will be caught un-awares by Axel..it was going to be him or Christian, from the Preview, I don't think Axel cares...
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Post by seven14 on Aug 3, 2008 22:38:05 GMT -5
brownsugar I'm with you...we'll have to wait and see next viewing! :-)
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Post by brownsugar on Aug 3, 2008 23:00:19 GMT -5
seven14...I agree with you that it could have been either one of them downstairs at that time, it just happen to be Olli. Although, I think Axel would most likely have gotten a solid beating himself if it were Christian he chose to attack.
I'm also wondering how the hell did Axel get into No Limits in the first place if there was a celebration going on earlier? Wouldn't someone have seen him enter? Of course there is the possibility that Olli and Christian, who were the last two in No Limits, had both just ran upstairs for a minute, and Olli was to return to lock up, but it was then that Axel, who obviously had been staking out the place, slipped in.
Tomorrow can't get here quick enough.
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 4, 2008 0:40:34 GMT -5
Yeah, lot's of mystery around this attack.
Maybe the moron hid in the bathroom?
I can't help but place myself in this situation. What would I do? As Christian? I'm afraid, my friends, that I would lose it completely and take the law into my own hands, as we say here in the USA.
Sorry, that's just me heh
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 4, 2008 0:55:13 GMT -5
Great idea, Alde, but I want him to say it in the middle of No Limits right in front of Miriam! Yes, I'm ebil that way heh heh heh But, Bchick, your point is well taken: you can say the same thing by actions; sometimes, the words would just be unnecessary. I could imagine the scene when C says this and O, going, "Oh? but you always say this to me, Christian---with your eyes and your touch. I've known all along how you felt." Geoff Maybe it's a hold over from some other shows I've watched where main romantic couples were supposed to be [deeply] in love and I just never saw it (hey QAF-USA! as one prime example of that) so hearing folks say ILU and not seeing any love between the characters was just . (I am sure we can all think of a couple of shows that fit that description) One of the things about how the C/O storyline is well done is that I could never hear them say ILU to each other and I'd be happy because I don't need to hear it as the actors & directors have done a good job at showing me that the two characters love one another [deeply] and that means more to me than hearing them say the words. So I finally got through both parts once people at work left me alone. Good stuff. I enjoyed both clips a lot. I only halfway got to hear the dialogue so I will have to turn to the sendspace versions when I get home so I can put the words with the actions. Bchick, I've thought all day about your response. I must color myself in the category of: those who need to hear these words. Tut mir leid, meine Freundin. Aber, gar nicht. I can't be sorry for wanting to see another man tell another man, 'I love you'. I think the real reason I need to see this, is for myself--not for the characters on VL. You see, it's very hard for a man to say these words----ok, ok, well, most men. I couldn't bring myself to say this to my last boyfriend---even though he did at nearly every meeting between us. I felt the same, but I couldn't make myself say those simple words. That's why I need to see and hear Christian say it. Perhaps, next time, it will give me the courage to say it, myself. heh Who knows? I hope you understand. Geoff
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Post by aussie54 on Aug 4, 2008 4:01:30 GMT -5
Ivan! I see you have a new icon/avatar. Christian has almost squeezed Patsy out. It's quiet here at this time of the night. I've been bored today, so I played around with this screenshot ... these boys have amazing eyes, don't they?
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 4, 2008 5:16:29 GMT -5
Well Patsy almost ripped me a new one when she saw I exchanged her for somebody younger and prettier ;D But I got this icon as a gift and I just could not resist. Although that vodka bottle now looks like a milk bottle As for today, I guess that we have a happy episode before us. I think maybe Gregor will throw a coming out/victory celebration party and we'll see a lot of public and private happiness. We may even see Christian getting his Testosteronspiegel back to normal Axel may turn out just "for a while" to congratulate Christian for winning the fight, but "forgets" to leave and hides himself somewhere waiting for the opportunity. Which will come a few seconds before the credits and what we saw will, traditionally, be a cliffhanger for tomorrow.
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Post by dutchy on Aug 4, 2008 9:13:38 GMT -5
Plus, if Olli's in No Limits by himself then we have to assume it's the middle of the night, since we know the place is open early morning to late evening at the least. I can't think of any other reason Olli would be the only person there when Axel shows up. Perhaps it’s a Sunday and No Limits is closed on Sundays? Does No Limits close on Sundays? No idea! But then, how did Axel get in? Oh well, we’ll know in a few hours, won’t we?
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