dutchy
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Post by dutchy on Aug 1, 2008 18:00:35 GMT -5
THANKS, NANNA & TIHKON!!!
You (and Ivan) are the true champs today!!
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Post by GayTime on Aug 1, 2008 18:13:02 GMT -5
thanks Nanna and tihkon!!!!!!!!!
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Post by psionycx on Aug 1, 2008 18:19:41 GMT -5
U.N. translators can't match our Nanna & Tihkon! You guys rock!
This was intense!
Christian really was all over the map yesterday and today. No wonder Olli had no idea what the right thing to do was. After being shot down for everything he'd tried to do to be helpful, and being told to take a cold shower and sleep in his own room, I can see why Olli might have thought that going out for the evening was a better idea than getting in Christian's way.
As usual, Mr Manly Mann was unable to articulate his feelings and needs. If he had just said "Olli, please come home and spend the evening with me." Olli would have complied of course. Insecurity triggered by Gregor's warning probably didn't help either.
But it was odd the way that Christian was able to be so nice to Judith (who is a constant case of sad girl these days) only to blow up at Olli again. It was good that Olli didn't just take it though. It's not healthy to internalize feelings of hurt and he had already taken enough of Christian's lashing out.
You could tell that the thought that Olli might not show up for the match, and that their relationship might really be in trouble, was a huge source of worry for Christian. Gregor's coaching notwithstanding Christian's mind clearly isn't on the fight. I was pleased that he has the self-awareness to know that he screwed up.
This was soooooooooo good!
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Post by nanna on Aug 1, 2008 18:27:02 GMT -5
I'm uploading part 2 now. I've discovered a totally new love for boxing. They don't talk a lot during a fight!
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mikey
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Post by mikey on Aug 1, 2008 18:27:33 GMT -5
Sooooo good. My god, I feel like I've been waiting for an ep like this for months.
Thanks Ivan, Nanna, and tihkon!
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 1, 2008 18:30:43 GMT -5
Wow - Nanna & TihkonYou have totally excelled yourselves with this episode and the speed with which you have subbed it. Thank - you
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mikey
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Post by mikey on Aug 1, 2008 18:32:53 GMT -5
I'm uploading part 2 now. I've discovered a totally new love for boxing. They don't talk a lot during a fight! Aww... We love all that you do for us, Nanna! It's been such a busy week for our boys and you! Vielen Dank!
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Post by psionycx on Aug 1, 2008 18:37:53 GMT -5
I'm uploading part 2 now. I've discovered a totally new love for boxing. They don't talk a lot during a fight! Fortunately this isn't a scenario where they have sports commentators talking the whole time about things worth translating eh? Love you Nanna!
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seven14
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Post by seven14 on Aug 1, 2008 18:38:13 GMT -5
Thank you so much Nanna, Tihkon and Ivan!!! There have been so many good comments today. I just want to add my feelings of joy as well. I loved the snuggle!! Argument was very good and meaningful on both Christian and Olli's parts. This is going to help them to be a more expressive and open couple with one another. Nothing was said that didn't really need to be said. The fight was good...in that Olivia was so psyched and very happy for her cousin and Christian....not that she was the only one by a long shot, but she was really giving it her all with the cheering and smiles. Gregor is great ..whatever he says or does in relation to C/O. Judith, thank you for a change saying something meaningful to Christian and reminding him, Olli really loves him. And the kiss---so loving and sweet...perfect! Finally, as Tracy Morgan would say, Christian and Olli are so good, I'd like to take them behind the school and get them pregnant--(Sorry, if no one but me gets that---but that is the most hilarious line of his to me! ) Just a really great episode!!! :-)
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ChibiRHM
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Post by ChibiRHM on Aug 1, 2008 18:58:17 GMT -5
Finally, as Tracy Morgan would say, Christian and Olli are so good, I'd like to take them behind the school and get them pregnant High five, fellow 30 Rock fan!
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Mounti
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Post by Mounti on Aug 1, 2008 19:15:15 GMT -5
Olli and Chris our adorable ~ S l e e p i n g - B e a u t i e s ~ ~ Best cap ever ~ Thank you sooo much for the caps and videos, Ivan! You made me happy – happy – happy… Thanks Ivan! :-*I loved that kiss, but my favourite scene was when Olli came home late at night and the first thing he did was climbing on the bed to cuddle and kiss Christian, thinking he was asleep. My eyes got wet then! Aldebaran, that was THE scene… and my eyes got wet too…
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Post by aussie54 on Aug 1, 2008 19:37:57 GMT -5
A BIG thank you from me as well Nanna and Tihkon! I appreciate what you and Ivan do for us non-German speakers so much. There are many wonderful caps, but these two are my favourites. I think we're seeing some of the actors coming out behind their characters. Dimple - self-conscious dimple! And the irresistable Jo Olli self-conscious grin: Altogether now .... awwwww!
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 19:40:26 GMT -5
Aaaannnnddd......part two with English Subtitles!Nanna , go have a cocktail and a lie-down!
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restenergy
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Post by restenergy on Aug 1, 2008 19:52:57 GMT -5
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Post by nanna on Aug 1, 2008 19:56:02 GMT -5
While the video was uploading I had a little fun with Photoshop: That was so cute!
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restenergy
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Post by restenergy on Aug 1, 2008 19:58:55 GMT -5
Thanks, again, Nanna. That's a wonderful image of the two of them. They are really cute, aren't they? And Olli is so happy and contented to be snuggling his Christian!
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 20:06:24 GMT -5
That came out very nice Strudelchen! Good job! Your welcome Restenergy! Boy, Axel is a nasty piece of work. "beddy- byes" is both awesome and creepy in that context...
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restenergy
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Post by restenergy on Aug 1, 2008 20:08:28 GMT -5
I was amused by Christian's face when Olli introduced him as his flatmate. Me too! Like it’s Olli’s fault that he couldn’t introduce Christian as his boyfriend! Had it been up to Olli, he would have screamed it off the rooftops on the 4th of April! ;D Which is why giving Olli that kiss in the ring is such a good way for Christian to make up with Olli (and vice versa). Yet I can understand Christian's expression then. He was suspicious already, and to not have Olli claim him for more just then, well....
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sozment
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Post by sozment on Aug 1, 2008 20:09:28 GMT -5
Oh Nanna, THANK YOU so much!! Oh, how I loved the kiss at the end. Aww.. The last 2 episodes were simply awesome. I just loved them. I have to say that I loved Olivia in this ep.. She was awesome. As was Judith. Even the extra's were getting into. How fun would that have been? Glowing.....
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 1, 2008 20:45:24 GMT -5
I'm still on Cloud Nine, folks.
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Post by floatilla on Aug 1, 2008 20:56:09 GMT -5
I cant get this silly grin off my face.... ;D
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 20:56:33 GMT -5
Right?
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Post by jsg03jd on Aug 1, 2008 21:01:35 GMT -5
What was the German for Christian and Gregor's exchange in Part 1 right after Judith leaves them? I thought that sounded just lovely...
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Post by tyranamiros on Aug 1, 2008 21:28:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Nanna! That photoshop is my new computer background ;D
It's been a couple of difficult episodes to watch (at least until the end of this one!), but I really feel like they help us understand the characters better. Yesterday I wanted to yell at Christian; today I wanted to yell at Olli.
I was struck by the similarity between this fight and one of the fights Christian and Coco had way back when--Christian's pattern seems to be (1) unintentionally hurt someone close, (2) someone else enlightens him that he hurt that person, (3) he tries to recover, but it's always a bit too late. He'll really start to grow when he learns that he can verbalize his emotions--especially his fears--better.
On the other hand, Olli's tactics seem to be focused on how to get a rise out of the other guy. This really works well on Christian because it's often right on target--the fears Christian can't verbalize.
At the "morning of" fight, I don't think Christian was actually angry at Olli simply because he went clubbing rather than staying home. He was mad because Olli chose to go clubbing over staying home. If Olli had gone back to the apartment, I think Christian would have still gotten mad.
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nana29
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Post by nana29 on Aug 1, 2008 22:28:18 GMT -5
Thank You Ivan, TihKon and Nanna!! For your hard work and dedication in bringing this story to us, non-german speakers:)
I got to say one of my favorite lines was Christian's line to Gregor right before the fight when Gregor asked him about his dream and Chris said what kind of dream is that If I can't love the man I love
It seemed like he finally understood the "considerations" that Olli was making for him.
All around the episode was fantastic we got a real first Ollian fight as a couple and the reconciliation was icing on the cake!
Someone mentioned earlier in the post the sarcasm in the fight, I really liked it! and once though, and I know it wont ever happened, but I want Christian to say he is jealous...lol because that look he gave Olli when he introduced him as his flatmate was brilliant!
Can't wait for Monday!
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