Emmerdale - Spoilers Discussion

[stl29tide]

I didn't know Danny and Adam lived together. They really are with each other every minute of everyday and I could see how that moment could have been awkward for them. I figured this would be a very long storyline with Aaron. I hope he gets a love interest. I'm still holding out hope that one day it's Adam, but if that day comes, it sounds like it won't be for a very, very long time. As of right now, at least in his mind, the writers haven't even thought about giving him a potential relationship. Well, still, I'm looking forward to seeing Aaron's journey. I'm sure Danny will play it brilliantly as always.

[jnn111]

Thanks final81 for the interview with Danny (Aaron)

Very interesting and can't wait ;D

Love this picture in the article

;D ;D

They have to eventually be a couple!

[alicat]

How does his friendship with Adam continue?
"Funnily enough, it's not [shattered]."

Lol - funny that ;D

"I think what Adam's more bothered about is the safety and protection of his sister because Aaron's going after her. I think he's more bothered about his sister getting hurt, so in an attempt to save her Adam goes round to Aaron's house ..."

Hmmm .... *remains unconvinced* (well at least it moves the plot along ...)

Could you see Aaron in a relationship with a guy?
"I think for them to do that, it would take a lot of time and a lot of effort to make the viewers believe it."

It's OK - I can wait!!!! *so glad they're going for believable*

"If they did that, I wouldn't have a problem with it..."

All in all, it's looking good then!!! ;D ;D ;D


Thanks final

[sheepiefarm]

Having just read the interview with Danny Millar - I can't help but feel we just got "dumped" by Adam today
It would seem that all those that urged caution and that Adam would be no more than his "str8 mate crush" were right to do so.
For the time-being (anyway) it would appear that Adam's only involvement is as the catalyst that begins Aaron's sexuality struggle.
However, I still think (depending on what's already been pre-recorded & scripted) that it's not outwith the boundaries of believability for things to change between them at a later date.
The interest that this story has garnered before it has even begun might make them reconsider where it goes.

To say I am disappointed is an understatement (lol - like ya didn't all know that already) however, I will still continue to watch the struggles of Aaron.
I think Danny Millar is an incredible young actor who brings intensity, emotion & humour to the screen with every performance and is quite captivating to watch.

My positive hat is still on - if slightly askew ;D

>>>at least I can stop chewing the furniture now<<<

[alicat]

Dec 1, 2009 8:14:38 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Having just read the interview with Danny Millar - I can't help but feel we just got "dumped" by Adam today
It would seem that all those that urged caution and that Adam would be no more than his "str8 mate crush" were right to do so.

Don't get too down-hearted - I think the interview gave us as much as we could hope for at this stage. It's perfectly in line with the on-screen sl so far and the publicity info that's been released. Had Danny Miller come out with "I couldn't be more thrilled about such an exciting exit for my character", then yes, I'd be disappointed. But I remain optimistic.

Kris Green is usually 'in the know' about these things, and has probably chosen his questions quite carefully. He obviously reads the DS thread, where there is much speculation about an AA pairing, yet bizarrely this is the one direct question he does not ask. Instead we get:
How does his friendship with Adam continue? ... and ... Could you see Aaron in a relationship with a guy?
The interview questions are focused on Aaron, which is pretty consistent with the publicity.

Don't know if anyone remembers, but Kris Green did an interview with James Sutton whilst he was playing JP from Hollyoaks, a while before the Sunset Ending involving the return of Guy Burnett was officially announced. And did he give anything away during that interview? Nope! ;D ;D ;D (and Kris later confirmed that yes he was fully aware of the impending SE, but was just sworn to secrecy )

Of course I can't say for sure what Kris does or doesn't know, all's I'm saying, is that this interview doesn't rule anything out. So basically we're still at the proverbial square one with all this.

[esmi]

Which is worse: not knowing anything or knowing that it will not happen at all? *contemplates kicking the AA addiction before its too late*

[cheerios]

Dec 1, 2009 11:13:34 GMT -5 @esmi said:

Which is worse: not knowing anything or knowing that it will not happen at all? *contemplates kicking the AA addiction before its too late*

Well least in a way we know now and can focus on Aaron figuring out what this all means to him. And not hoping for the two of them to find their way to each other romantically.

[stl29tide]

Yeah, I still have hope for an AA pairing, but, I think if it happens, it's not going to happen until the latter half of next year. It seems right now, it's going to be all about Aaron and what he's going through which I'm fine with. Adam will still be in his orbit during this time. There's still going to be a lot of angst and push and pull and fighting between them. Whether it turns into something more, we don't know. But isn't that half the fun? So many possibilities with this storyline and we get to watch it all unfold from the very beginning. I'm personally excited. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride.....wherever that may take us.

[carld2]

I think it will be quite a while before Aaron even accepts what he is, and if the show decides to go further. It sounds like they may be waiting to see the reaction. I can see Aaron going in either direction, being gay, or falling for Adam because he feels a unique bond (like with Debbie/Jasmine). I'm hoping this will be a long story which can help Aaron grow into a person who is less full of rage and less self-loathing. If Adam is there as his partner, or just as his friend, then that would be nice. If not, then I can also see that, although I think they'd be wasting the rapport between the actors.

I'm quite surprised that Adam tells Andy about this. He barely knows Andy, and Andy is a very mentally unbalanced person. I guess Adam doesn't know this. Aaron and Andy also have a bad relationship, due to the time Aaron was interested in Andy's sister Victoria, so I wonder how long it will be before Aaron finds out Andy knows. I think he's going to be furious and he will possibly lash out at Adam.

Around 2003 they had a story where Andy's friend was subject to gay rumors. When Andy found out, he had an extremely homophobic reaction to the point of beating his friend up. His friend left town in shame. I don't know if they had any more plans for that story which were cut short, or if that was actually what they had planned all along, but it's just another very nasty moment in Andy's history.

[romancejunkie]

Call me naive but I can't believe the producers would waste time, money and, especially, publicity creating a buzz around A&A unless there was some followthrough planned. Certainly all of the preliminary info suggests a pairing in the future. "If you build it, they will come".....well, they've built a stadium, I suspect we'll see some baseball (or soccer) in the next few months.

And, am I the only jaded, old gay man out there who sees something unusual in the fact that our two potential lovebirds are, in fact, roommates in real life. Perhaps I've lived in San Francisco and Palm Springs too long.....?

[sheepiefarm]

Dec 1, 2009 14:07:02 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I'm quite surprised that Adam tells Andy about this. He barely knows Andy, and Andy is a very mentally unbalanced person. I guess Adam doesn't know this. Aaron and Andy also have a bad relationship, due to the time Aaron was interested in Andy's sister Victoria, so I wonder how long it will be before Aaron finds out Andy knows. I think he's going to be furious and he will possibly lash out at Adam.

Around 2003 they had a story where Andy's friend was subject to gay rumors. When Andy found out, he had an extremely homophobic reaction to the point of beating his friend up. His friend left town in shame. I don't know if they had any more plans for that story which were cut short, or if that was actually what they had planned all along, but it's just another very nasty moment in Andy's history.

I missed that spoiler - had to go back and re-read

Wow - I didn't see that coming - really not sure what to make of that
Andy's been kinda out-on-a-limb storywise of late so maybe it's just a way of giving him screentime. However, if he happens to let it slip to Victoria - potentially explosive....

[sheepiefarm]

Dec 1, 2009 14:34:02 GMT -5 romancejunkie said:

And, am I the only jaded, old gay man out there who sees something unusual in the fact that our two potential lovebirds are, in fact, roommates in real life. Perhaps I've lived in San Francisco and Palm Springs too long.....?

Yep - I'm afraid so

It's quite common for young cast members to live together - mostly because thay have to move to the location of where it's filmed. ED is filmed in Yorkshire & Granada studios - and like anyone else it saves money renting / buying somewhere on your own. I suspect there is someone within the production company who helps to find newcomers accommodation if it is required - where better to start looking for a spare room than among the existing cast.
The younger "corrie" actors do the same.

[stl29tide]

Dec 1, 2009 14:46:21 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Dec 1, 2009 14:34:02 GMT -5 romancejunkie said:

And, am I the only jaded, old gay man out there who sees something unusual in the fact that our two potential lovebirds are, in fact, roommates in real life. Perhaps I've lived in San Francisco and Palm Springs too long.....?

Yep - I'm afraid so

It's quite common for young cast members to live together - mostly because thay have to move to the location of where it's filmed. ED is filmed in Yorkshire & Granada studios - and like anyone else it saves money renting / buying somewhere on your own. I suspect there is someone within the production company who helps to find newcomers accommodation if it is required - where better to start looking for a spare room than among the existing cast.
The younger "corrie" actors do the same.

The Hollyoaks cast members do it too. It makes sense economically. Well, they did have their screen test together and obviously casting thought they had some chemistry together. It probably helps now that they do live together and are with each other all the time. It helps their chemistry come off even stronger. And I don't know why but I find it funny that Adam suggests they rehearse lines together at home. It is a very 'coupley' thing to do for two people who work together, but, we know both boys are straight and according to Danny, Adam has a long time girlfriend. I like that they're so close in real life though. It really comes across on screen.

[romancejunkie]

Having lived in California most of my life, I never believe a publicist's characterization of an actor's home life or sexuality. Read: James Dean, Rock Hudson, Tom Cruise, Keannu Reeves, etc. That being said you both have amply convinced me of my impending fossilization. Your explanations make complete sense. Thanks.

[alicat]

Dec 1, 2009 14:06:30 GMT -5 stl29tide said:

Yeah, I still have hope for an AA pairing, but, I think if it happens, it's not going to happen until the latter half of next year. It seems right now, it's going to be all about Aaron and what he's going through which I'm fine with.

Yep, I'll agree with that ;D.

Dec 1, 2009 14:07:02 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I'm quite surprised that Adam tells Andy about this. He barely knows Andy, and Andy is a very mentally unbalanced person. I guess Adam doesn't know this. Aaron and Andy also have a bad relationship, due to the time Aaron was interested in Andy's sister Victoria, so I wonder how long it will be before Aaron finds out Andy knows. I think he's going to be furious and he will possibly lash out at Adam.

Hmmm ... why did they pick Andy as the 'confidante'? I suppose if Adam has to tell someone, then it has to be someone un-involved, which rules out his immediate family. Outside of them and Aaron, who else does Adam really know? Ryan yes, but then he works with Aaron. So that does leave Andy. And remember the spoiler about the cracked barrel or something like that - perhaps they bond over whatever happens?

Another possibility, as you say, is that Andy is well placed to reveal the secret to create drama, because of the Victoria link. But then another possibility, I'm wondering, is whether Adam and Andy are supposed to become friends - as in completely platonic friends. And could this lead Adam, in time, to question whether he is indeed 'just friends' with Aaron, because he has a different sort of bond with Aaron than Andy? Or could it just be a way to get Adam talking about himself - which let's face it, we're all waiting for?!!!


One other thought I had whilst out and about today (and in my own little dreamworld ), was why Adam has been chosen as Aaron's 'friend' in all this. Because if Aaron just needs a guide to help him come to terms with his sexuality, why not have Paddy take that role? After all, he's got the benefit of having a gay cousin already. Or even Debbie, she's had relationships with men and women - well, one woman. But bizarrely, Adam seems to be the one that the writers have put Aaron around through all this.

And another thing - just to draw a parallel with the Lamb/Wylde bigamy sl that's running atm. Not only has that one been planned right from the start (rather than a 'wait and see' attitude which doesn't really ring true), but also the audience were diverted from the rather obvious relationship that would easily exposed the whole bigamy scandal (Ryan/Maisie) by having both characters paired off separately to begin with. And then, as if by magic , the story loops back round to them getting together anyway and it turns out, the signs were there all along, albeit subtly. Just a thought! ;D

[carld2]

I think they had Adam as Aaron's friend because Adam being supportive of him mixes with Adam being a young, charismatic man around Aaron's age. That brings out emotions Aaron wouldn't feel with Paddy, because he doesn't have that same level of respect for Paddy.

I hadn't thought of Andy telling Victoria, but that does make sense. I guess eventually he might let it slip to her and then Victoria, who may be upset because she had slept with Aaron, will spitefully tell everyone and all hell will break loose.

I can see Adam eventually comparing his friendship to Aaron to the one with Andy, if any of the story is ever written from Adam's POV. I guess it depends on whether they decide to go there with Adam/Aaron. I'm hoping they will. This story is a bit of a departure from Emmerdale's usual pattern of bringing in characters who know what they are from the start (the last time a straight character realized they were gay was Zoe Tate). I'm hoping they won't go along with the idea that because Aaron came in liking girls, they should just say he was confused. They started this and it would be a great, long-term story to make him gay, or bisexual.

[alicat]

Dec 1, 2009 17:51:10 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I think they had Adam as Aaron's friend because Adam being supportive of him mixes with Adam being a young, charismatic man around Aaron's age. That brings out emotions Aaron wouldn't feel with Paddy, because he doesn't have that same level of respect for Paddy.

That's true - it could be a way of 'rounding out' Aaron's reaction to his sexuality. I hope it's more than that though ...

*thinks of screen test* ;D

[maya]

thank you for the interview kimbaforeva, it really sounds like it's going to be a great storyline ;D

[carld2]

I'm still not sure how to feel about the story, but I'm glad to hear Adam is going to be a major part of it, and very glad to hear this won't be about a girl getting her heart broken. I think in the long run this proves very detrimental to gay storylines because the main focus ends up being on the devastated fiance/wife, with the gay man cast as the villain or as the selfish, thoughtless one.

[alicat]

Dec 3, 2009 6:11:38 GMT -5 carld2 said:

... I'm glad to hear Adam is going to be a major part of it, and very glad to hear this won't be about a girl getting her heart broken.

Amen to that. I think for my own sanity I'm going to sit back and enjoy watching Aaron's journey as it plays out on-screen, as I think that will make great viewing in its own right. A few, hopefully short-lived, 'shields' I can cope with .

I do still think that the stage has been set for a possible AA romance - nothing has been ruled out at this stage, after all. But that could take a really long time as for one thing, Aaron's not going to get his head round his sexuality, whatever that turns out to be, overnight. I feel I must prepare myself for a slow burn sl here, otherwise short-term expectations that aren't met will only lead to disappointment, and I want to enjoy the few months ahead. It sounds that GB is going to make a good job of Aaron's sl - he's certainly very invested in it, which is all good news .

Thanks kimbaforeva .

[stl29tide]

"Adam will never be far away from this and will help shape the decisions - right and wrong - that Aaron makes about his future."

-See, this is what makes me think that eventually an AA pairing is possible. Ryan and Adam are really Aaron's only mates....and Victoria sometimes I guess, but, they had their screen test together, Adam always seems more preoccupied with Aaron when he's in a room, Aaron starts developing feelings for Adam. The two start fighting, yet they're constantly being thrown together. If Adam really wanted to stay away from Aaron, he would, but he's 'never going to be far away'.

I don't know, I still think eventually it's going to be more than friendship, but, again, I don't think it would happen 'til late 2010. I can't wait to see Aaron's journey though. Danny Miller knows Aaron so well and he's so good at playing the tortured self-destructing role with a sensitive side that no one really gets to see. I'm glad that it isn't a typical Girl gets heartbroken story as well and they're really going to take their time with it. It seems like they're really invested which is great because it makes the fans really invested as well.

[lovecars100]

Dec 3, 2009 4:24:33 GMT -5 kimbaforeva said:

I promise that it won't be a love story of man/girl, girl invests everything and ends up heartbroken. "

www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/blog/scoop/

All Right!!! I'm just too tired to even contemplate another beard

and Hi to all in the Emmerdale board, first posting here:) Here's to AA being the best sl in 2010!

[sheepiefarm]

I feel that Aaron's story is going to be a very interesting one indeed. Aaron has very few friends / mates and if we are to see how his "inner self" is struggling then there are gonna have to be some verbal scenes with "someone" in order for the viewer to be involved.
If Adam is to be that person - and given that Adam is the guy Aaron is "crushing" on - then we are likely to see a very unique "coming out" kinda story.
There is chemistry between these two guys and I can see some pretty captivating scenes in the future - regardless of the nature of the pairing.

[sheepiefarm]

Dec 3, 2009 13:14:03 GMT -5 lovecars100 said:

All Right!!! I'm just too tired to even contemplate another beard

Yep - I'm so over that story

and Hi to all in the Emmerdale board, first posting here:) Here's to AA being the best sl in 2010!

Hi lovecars
I second that motion ;D

[natalie]

just watched video previews poor aaron