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Post by Zathras on Jun 23, 2012 10:30:06 GMT -5
Diego and Nora have been married for awhile. Diego is now a resident and Nora got her citizenship. But the show makes it obvious they don't have a 'real' marriage. They haven't seen their HS school friends in years. Alejandro called Diego to tell him he's moving to Spain for good and I guess there's a goodbye party something b/c Sabastain is coming to the party as well. He's flying in from DC. Nora doesn't want to go, but finding out Sabas will be there seems to change her mind or rather Diego asks her if it does. Why Alejandro would be calling people he hasn't spoken to or seen in years because he's moving makes no sense, but that's the show for you. Anyway, there is one more episode on Monday. Seriously?  Sigh. I'm just dumbfounded with this "story." Usually I can make sense of what shows are trying to accomplish, or what is motivating them, but I'm really struggling to understand what they think they're doing here. Were all the storylines on the show half-assed like this one? I'm not sure which would be worse: that they did it this way due to homophobia or because they didn't know what they were doing. Or maybe they just didn't care. But why bother to even include the story? And what message did they want viewers to take away from it? A better question is what message will viewers take away?  I guess it's kind of like Hawthorne said: I know I shouldn't pay attention, but I can't quite look away.  |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 25, 2012 19:49:23 GMT -5
Well, tonight's the night. The series finale.... I wonder if we'll get a super duper and more intense HUG between Diego and Ale tonight.  |
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 25, 2012 19:53:19 GMT -5
Probably just a lingering glance or two. I doubt there will be a hug |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 25, 2012 22:06:48 GMT -5
Probably just a lingering glance or two. I doubt there will be a hug You were so right. ;D  ;D All they did was hold hands and stare into each other's eyes. In public, so I guess that's a happy ending. The party was supposed to be for Ale, right? Yet, he wasn't the focus of it? He was in the background, right next to Diego and didn't speak to him, until Diego called his name. oh show. My thoughts on the series finale.... difficultdiva12.tumblr.com/post/25902771030/wow-i-just-watched-the-series-finale-of-a-really |
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 25, 2012 22:17:05 GMT -5
Probably just a lingering glance or two. I doubt there will be a hug You were so right. ;D ;D All they did was hold hands and stare into each other's eyes. In public, so I guess that's a happy ending. The party was supposed to be for Ale, right? Yet, he wasn't the focus of it? He was in the background, right next to Diego and didn't speak to him, until Diego called his name. Ih show. I'm sorry that I guessed right  I was really hoping this show would turn out great. |
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Post by allmyimages2020 on Jun 25, 2012 23:09:24 GMT -5
It started off okay and then degenerated into the type of drivel even a 4 YO can scribble out better! It is so bad that one has to see the ending to know how much worse a soap can get!
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Post by HQ75 on Jun 26, 2012 2:31:54 GMT -5
There is a short conversation between Sebastian and Nora here.
I would appreciate it if someone could give a brief transcription.
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Post by GayTime on Jun 26, 2012 8:50:00 GMT -5
There is a short conversation between Sebastian and Nora here. I would appreciate it if someone could give a brief transcription. From what I gather, Sebastian puts an ultimatum to Nora to tell Diego about them. Nora tells him that she married Diego (1) to help him with his dad (2) so she can become a legal resident She's waiting for the right moment to tell him. Sebastian: "There is never a perfect moment. It's now... or NEVER, Nora." DUN DUN DUN!!! |
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Post by justinate on Jun 26, 2012 9:05:46 GMT -5
I feel that we gays put up with a lot of substandard gay storylines because ultimately it's important to increase gay visibility and promote gay-positive attitudes, especially among less tolerant communities. We might constantly find TV shows revisiting the same old stories of coming-out, homophobic bullying, gay-bashing, crush-on-straight-best-friend, <insert cliche here> but ultimately it's for a good cause: the gay characters are accepted, the bullies punished, the world recognizes homosexuality is normal and homophobia is not.
Not in RP. The show ended without any repercussion for Dr Baron's hateful, despicable acts of torture towards his own son, simply because said son was attracted to another boy. So now it's considered acceptable to torture your son with electroshocks and testosterone injections, and to approve these procedures when you are a DOCTOR who takes an oath to do no harm. As if the story wasn't offensive enough, they did not do enough (or indeed anything) to highlight the evil of Dr Baron's actions.
I think even Kevin Aponte was disappointed by the way his character's story ended. If you watch him in the finale, there is really no spark to his performance; it was so emotionally hollow that even the actress playing Miranda might have out-acted him. (Please note I said "might".) I can't blame him either because this is the most disgraceful, offensive portrayal of a gay storyline I have seen in recent memory. Telemundo should be ashamed of itself.
As if that was not bad enough, there was the skewed portrayal of a sex offender and her victim. The way they had all of Mauricio's family, his friends/her other students, as well as her colleagues, come out in support of Miranda, was disgusting. So now we will see more victims of sexual misconduct going to court to free their molesters, to MARRY said molesters, while their parents/siblings/friends/teachers look on in admiration. Well done, Telemundo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 11:24:42 GMT -5
Phew, what a send off apparently! I know some were worried, but we can safely say at last that the ending was truly true to the show. ;D To celebrate, I'm also offering my very limited Spanish 'skills' services until actual speakers/experts can give you something fully accurate, HQ75. N: Hi S: Hey, Nora S: Came to say hi to you and Diego before… N: Diego isn’t here. He’s out… so no need to hide now S: Nora, when are you going to talk to Diego? N: Sebastian, you know full well that I only married Diego to help him with his father and get my papers, and yes, also out of love in the first year, but I love you, you know that. I just don’t want to rush it. S: How much longer are we going to have to wait before being together? There’s no such thing as the perfect moment, Nora. It’s now… or NEVER. Or something maybe like that. And yeah, DUN DUN DUN! 'Cause I really think that was the best part. |
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Post by HQ75 on Jun 26, 2012 12:04:38 GMT -5
Thank you guys! Poor Alejandro, still can't get a kiss from Diego on screen. Bless his heart. |
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Post by techguy on Jun 26, 2012 14:44:13 GMT -5
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Post by niceone on Jun 26, 2012 16:02:07 GMT -5
Well... I just have to say i'm a little sad this story is over.... This has been an emotional rollercoaster like no one before. Maybe not in the way I hoped at first...  I can recomend watching the non translated videos using YouTube translation, it is hilarious! Diego looks soo more mature and sexy in his "5 years older" haircut. |
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Post by moonstruck-me on Jun 26, 2012 16:16:39 GMT -5
They really went for it! ;D but like you said, not much to see... |
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Post by anthonyl on Jun 26, 2012 16:53:10 GMT -5
Diego said that he and Alejandro hadn't seen each other in years, but Alejandro still loved him and wanted to be with him? Alejandro didn't meet any other men in all that time? And Alejandro was supposed to be moving to Spain, the reason for the party. I guess he didn't go? It would make more sense if, like Nora and Sabastain, the guys were having a secret affair and had reestablished their love.
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Post by niceone on Jun 26, 2012 16:59:15 GMT -5
Thank you Anthony for uploading the translated missing episodes... Plus the "kiss".... The last part ended with Diegos trademark grin/smile like a dog showing too much teeth.... Thanks for your dedicated work! Despite the bad comments here and on YouTube! Your an angel in my otherwise gloomy world... |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 26, 2012 18:30:39 GMT -5
Diego said that he and Alejandro hadn't seen each other in years, but Alejandro still loved him and wanted to be with him? Alejandro didn't meet any other men in all that time? And Alejandro was supposed to be moving to Spain, the reason for the party. I guess he didn't go? It would make more sense if, like Nora and Sabastain, the guys were having a secret affair and had reestablished their love. Of course Ale never even thought about another man. Well, even the notion of unseen IMPLIED sex between Diego and Ale was still too much for Telemundo. I really wonder if they actually watched the series from Spain or just read about their viewership demographic and ratings? Too late now. |
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Post by spherical07 on Jun 26, 2012 19:30:29 GMT -5
Spain and the Latin-American community [and Americans in general] are worlds apart when it comes to views on homosexuality. Regardless, I just wish that when they realized they would have to end the show early that they would have just went for it. You had nothing to lose at that point, and yet, they still blew it.
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Post by Zathras on Jun 26, 2012 19:54:12 GMT -5
I'll give them this: they were consistent right to the end. It's unfortunate that a show with such potential went the way it did.  They censored that?! I'm continually amazed at the attitude of the people responsible for the content of this show (and for the censorship). The warning on that clip seems totally unnecessary. "This material is appropriate for an adult audience. Discretion is advised." (more or less). Sigh. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 26, 2012 20:05:41 GMT -5
Spain and the Latin-American community [and Americans in general] are worlds apart when it comes to views on homosexuality. Regardless, I just wish that when they realized they would have to end the show early that they would have just went for it. You had nothing to lose at that point, and yet, they still blew it. We see it as nothing left to lose. They see it as IF they do push the envelop, they (the folks that are in charge of this cancelled show) might not get the chance to be in charge of ANOTHER show. These folks are all about saving their own asses right now, even when it means giving up any sense of artistic drive in what you're producing. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 26, 2012 20:09:59 GMT -5
I'll give them this: they were consistent right to the end. It's unfortunate that a show with such potential went the way it did. They censored that?! I'm continually amazed at the attitude of the people responsible for the content of this show (and for the censorship). The warning on that clip seems totally unnecessary. "This material is appropriate for an adult audience. Discretion is advised." (more or less). Sigh. It was entirely unnecessary. That was really ridiculous, because as someone had already said, we got to see Miranda and Mau practically naked on screen, laying on top of one another and his character was UNDERAGE. Their entire relationship, at that time was against the law. I'm not familiar with the State of Florida's laws, but is homosexuality illegal in that state? |
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Post by kittycat on Jun 26, 2012 20:14:44 GMT -5
There is no reason why that kiss should have been censored. All we see is mostly the back of Diego's head. I mean if they had showed us a side view then maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 20:16:02 GMT -5
I'll give them this: they were consistent right to the end. It's unfortunate that a show with such potential went the way it did. They censored that?! I'm continually amazed at the attitude of the people responsible for the content of this show (and for the censorship). The warning on that clip seems totally unnecessary. "This material is appropriate for an adult audience. Discretion is advised." (more or less). Sigh. It was entirely unnecessary. That was really ridiculous, because as someone had already said, we got to see Miranda and Mau practically naked on screen, laying on top of one another and his character was UNDERAGE. Their entire relationship, at that time was against the law. I'm not familiar with the State of Florida's laws, but is homosexuality illegal in that state? No Florida is one of the States that's really open to Homosexuality |
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 26, 2012 20:22:53 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the State of Florida's laws, but is homosexuality illegal in that state? It is legal -- the supreme court struck down all remaining laws against sodomy in 2003 in the Lawrence vs. Texas case. Florida doesn't recognize civil unions or gay marriages, but does allow adoption by gay couples. |
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Post by mycatfox on Jun 26, 2012 20:36:27 GMT -5
If TPTB realized they had to end the soap earlier because of lousy ratings, why they didn't play the wild card to appeal to a complete different audience? Instead, they chose a still more conservative path. I guess it does not make sense, even in terms of business  My only consolation is that even so, they miserably failed
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I was really hoping this show would turn out great.
My only consolation is that even so, they miserably failed 
