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Post by deadlysmile on Jan 26, 2012 18:27:20 GMT -5
Alright. I'll start tonight after the third episode. Least until someone puts the subbed version on YT.
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Post by valso on Jan 27, 2012 7:30:45 GMT -5
I'd like to ask where you watch the show, I'm curious to give it a try but I wasn't able to find a link anywhere. Thanks. All of the episodes are uploaded to YT, so just do a search and you can watch it there.. without English subs though thank you
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 27, 2012 9:00:07 GMT -5
i just understand a little bit spanish......so it would be great, if you can give us a summary, thanks^^ I second this! It would be great if deadlysmile could translate for us, or at least give us a summary of what's going on! I am falling more and more in love with Alejandro.. he is soooo cute <3 I loved today's episode. I felt so bad for Alejandro though.. that bully put his head down the toilet I think Alejandro knows something that the bully is afraid to come out.. probably the drug thing, that he gave Rodrigo the drugs. Other comments on today's episode: the hug with Sebastian, Alejandro and Rodrigo's girlfriend was sooo cute! I just went aww when I saw that Also.. the scene at the end is like.. wow, the suspense is killing me! I guess they managed to hack into Rodrigo's computer, so I wonder what they'll find on there. This is kinda the same as the original FOQ, so they do follow the events somewhat: first Rodrigo's suicide and then hacking into his computer. I guess the start is the same, but I have a feeling it will develop from here on and that after a few more episodes it will start to look more different from the original FOQ.. this is my guess anyway I have two questions though: one, does anyone know about the ratings? how were the ratings for the first episode? and what about wednesday and yesterday's episodes? are the ratings any good? two, do you think the actor playing Alejandro is gay in real life? He pings like crazy to me, I kinda watched some of his mannerisms and yeah.. he seems gay. Either he's gay in real life or the actor is oscar worthy getting the gay mannerisms down to a t, or maybe it's just my wishful thinking! lol
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Post by Ed on Jan 27, 2012 10:51:24 GMT -5
An user on YouTube is uploading the whole episodes of Relaciones Peligrosas. I am not sure if they will be taken down. Anyway, here are the links:
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
One question, shouldn't this sub-board be moved to "Other Shows". It's under "Gone, but not forgotten" :/
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Post by josean06 on Jan 27, 2012 11:05:48 GMT -5
I totally agree gdfan!
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 27, 2012 16:39:04 GMT -5
Chapter 3 courtesy of LopezCorona10's channel: I'm regretting taking German in highschool, now that I see how pretty the cast is in this show
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Post by deadlysmile on Jan 27, 2012 17:32:46 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT FOR EPISODE 3!
Anyways, hi guys I'm here to give you the brief summary for episode 3.
First of all, this will be kinda BRIEF, so forgive me if I forget something, and don't hesitate to ask me a question.
Gonzalo and Sebastian starting fighting at the beginning of the episode because Alejandro told Sebastian that he overheard Maximo and Gonzalo talking about how Gonzalo gave drugs to Rodrigo and Osvaldo.
Sebastian's father stops the fight and invites Maximo, Gonzalo, and that other dude with the tattoo on his neck [Forgot his name, sorry.] to their apartment. Sebastian tells his father the reason he attacked Gonzalo was because Gonzalo gave Rodrigo drugs during the party. Gonzalo, of course, denies it and swears that he did not give anyone drugs.
Sebastian's father also points out that the odd thing about both Rodrigo's and Osvaldo's bodies is that they both had hickeys on their neck. Gonzalo quickly covers his neck, knowing that he had one as well. Gonzalo then decides that he needs to find Rodrigo's phone to see what exactly they did that night. [Which is pretty obvious, anyways.]
While Sebastian's mother is getting Gonzalo something to eat, he sneaks into Rodrigo's room and tries to find the phone. He fails and Sebastian finds him, furious that Gonzalo is in Rodrigo's room. Sebastian's father comes in and Sebastian and Gonzalo continue to argue with each other. When Sebastian's father leaves the room, Sebastian demands to know the true, or else he's going to throw Gonzalo off the balcony, the same way his brother committed suicide.
Gonzalo continues to deny that he had anything to do with Rodrigo's death, and that he did not sell him any drugs. Sebastian lets him go, but warns him that he will ask Maximo to unlock Rodrigo's phone, and that if he finds anything, Gonzalo would pay.
The next day, Alejandro is in the bathroom, when Gonzalo attacks him and verbally abuses him, before forcefully pushing his head into a toilet. Alejandro cries, and Maximo sees him, of course not helping him at all.
Sebastian finally returns to class, even though his classmates tell him its too soon. Gonzalo tells Maximo that if Sebastian asks him to unlock him phone, to delete any evidence that may go against him.
Nora and Sebastian grieve over Rodrigo's death, and Alejandro tells Sebastian that he can always look at him as his brother. Later, Alejandro tells Sebastian that Gonzalo attacked him in the bathroom. Furious, Sebastian tells him that Gonzalo will pay, but Alejandro tells him that Sebastian did not need anymore problems.
Sebastian asks Alejandro to come with him to ask Maximo to unlock the phone. Maximo unlocks the phone in the end.
That's about it for episode 3.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 27, 2012 18:12:58 GMT -5
Thanks deadlysmile for the recap! That was a well written recap too! I don't think you left out anything, at least not anything important. You did a great job with it I thought the episode was great, and it's finally starting to go somewhere
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Post by kingsrave on Jan 28, 2012 0:35:41 GMT -5
one, does anyone know about the ratings? how were the ratings for the first episode? and what about wednesday and yesterday's episodes? are the ratings any good? idk much abt ratings but this is what i could find: TUES "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.309.000 P2+ RTG A18-49 0.5 --- WEDS "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.500.000 P2+ A18-49 0.7 + THURS "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.178.000 P2+ A18-49 0.6 -
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 28, 2012 3:54:10 GMT -5
one, does anyone know about the ratings? how were the ratings for the first episode? and what about wednesday and yesterday's episodes? are the ratings any good? idk much abt ratings but this is what i could find: TUES "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.309.000 P2+ RTG A18-49 0.5 --- WEDS "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.500.000 P2+ A18-49 0.7 + THURS "Relaciones Peligrosas": 1.178.000 P2+ A18-49 0.6 - Thanks! I don't really know what that means though :S It is kinda worrisome that they dropped so much from wednesday to thursday though
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Post by jazz73 on Jan 28, 2012 7:21:46 GMT -5
So according to some character profiles I found it seems... Sebastian=Julio Alejandro=Fer Diego=David Maximo=Cabano Gonzalo=Gorka Yesenia=Cova or Yoli? Elizabeth=Ruth Nora=Paula?
There shouldn't be spoilers for anyone who saw FoQ. But just in case don't read if you want to be completely spoiler free.
Alejandro Portillo-Young gay man,when he comes out suffers homophobia and discrimination. Only child of older parents who love him like crazy. He is noble,considerate,trustworthy and a good friend. With is common sense and good heart he is a rock for his friends. Like BFFs Nora, Yesenia and Sofia. He falls for Sebastian but it is an impossible romance because S is straight. But S supports him in coming out to his parents. Who not only take it well but assume they are a couple. His home is lke a refuge for his classmates. His life changes when he meets Diego Barón who is on the football team with Sebastian. He discovers his gay side with Alejandro. They have a tumultuous love story where Diego's parents will make Alejandro's life miserable and accuse him of making their son gay.
Mario Portillo- Alex's Dad,professional, loving man who adopted Alex when he and his wife where older. Lourdes Portillo-Alex's Mom,cultured ex professor now dedicated to home and family. They adore their son and accept him for who he is when he comes out to them.
Diego Barón-Jock,good looking, loves video games, extrovert,leader,good actor. On the football team with Maximo and Sebastian. Seemingly heterosexual has a sustained relationship with Alejandro who he meets through Sebastian. Loves sports and would do them all day as well as dance and sing. Amiable and a good artist, he finds himself attracted to Sebastian's thin, "weak" friend Alex. At first because of him their love affair is secret until they are found out. But a complication arises when he discovers he is also attracted to girls and is bisexual. He will have to fight alongside Alejandro against his parents.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 28, 2012 9:17:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, jazz73 OMG! *squee* That sounds REALLY, REALLY good! I can't wait to see how this all plays out ;D And I also love the fact that I was right! I knew Diego was flirting with Ale in the promo.. he wasn't just handing out condoms, he was flirting with him! Does this mean we might actually get a BISEXUAL character? WOW! Just WOW! That would be AMAZING! Seriously.. how many bisexual male characters are on tv? Not many! This all sounds so frikkin amazing! I'm sorry, but I just can't hide my excitement. This is so awesome! Ok.. now about yesterday's episode.. I honestly think this telenovela just gets better and better. I like how it is all coming together. I am already in love with Alejandro, and yesterday's episode was the start of Alejandro's gay storyline.. well.. kinda. We saw him looking at pictures of him and Rodrigo, he was obviously in love with him, while that chick (what's her name?) is in love with Sebastian. I am just waiting for the pool scene now BTW... the most boring storyline is the protagonista storyline. Why is it that the main storyline in telenovelas is always the most boring one? I have watched a few novelas, and there's like no exception... the main storyline is always boring, while the other, smaller, storylines are usually much more interesting!
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Post by kingsrave on Jan 28, 2012 10:08:42 GMT -5
jazz73you're mostly right except yesenia is yoli because she's promiscuous and nora is cova because she's the activist. paula is sofia since she is mauricio's sister
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Post by jazz73 on Jan 28, 2012 15:52:11 GMT -5
Oh ok. I admit I didn't follow a lot of the other character's storylines, just Fer's. That makes sense. It also makes sense that the classmates would gravitate to Alex's house. His parents have the only stable working relationship in the novela. I wonder if they will redeem Gonzalo in the end like they did Gorka? And I hope that if they have Diego sleeping with the girls to find he's bi that they give Alex his own Borja and that Diego has to win him back so they end the novela together(and alive).
Again don't read if you want to stay completely spoiler free.
Mauricio-Is basically going to look perfect and sleep with Miranda. Sofia- Mauricio's twin sister will face prejudice even from her father when she enters an interracial relationship with Cassius Dupont.
Sebastian- Jock,singer,popular,virgin. On the football team with Maximo,Diego and Gonzalo. Knows Gonzalo is usually up to no good. Has a romance with his brother's ex Nora, a "erotic,physical thing" with Yesenia but ultimately looses his virginity with chubby Veronica.
Gonzalo- Raised by grandmother in Mexico brought to live with mom,little sister and mom's american husband. Always in trouble. Puts his and other's lives at risk with his irresponsibility and drug addiction. Will learn a terrible lesson.
Elizabeth- Beautiful on the outside,empty on the inside. Father was principal Teresa's first husband. Mother is obsessed with youth and beauty and sees her daughter as a rival. Falls into a relationahip with Gonzalo. When her parents die she goes to live with Teresa who was named her guardian.
Leonardo Maximo-Everyone calls him by his last name Maximo. Tech wiz,DJ,dancer,Jock. Father is abusive and a crook who unbeknownst to his wife and son makes their money illegally. Wife won't leave him because she doen't want to lose the money and status. When abuse comes to light father says it's actually Maximo who is the abuser. When he and his mother eventually need money Maximo turns to making online porn. Falls in love with Elizabeth, his best friend Gonzalo's girlfriend.
Yesenia-Came to the US with her brother on a raft from Cuba. They lived with their grandfafher until he died. Brother is in jail for trying to support them by turning to crime. She is fun, totally liberated with no sexual hang ups. Sleeps with whoever she fancies, and tells it like it is. Her best friends are Nora,Alejandro and Sofia.
Nora-Finds out ahe's an illegal immigrant when she tries to get her driver license. Activist, dreamer, not afraid to fight injustice and stand up for the oppressed. Along with Mauricio supports the Dream Act and all immigrant causes.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 28, 2012 16:22:59 GMT -5
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Post by deadlysmile on Jan 28, 2012 16:42:52 GMT -5
jazz73you're mostly right except yesenia is yoli because she's promiscuous and nora is cova because she's the activist. paula is sofia since she is mauricio's sister Firstly, I like your icon. That is one of those moments you keep repeating for five minutes without stopping. Secondly, That's great news for me. Meaning they are not following FoQ exactly. Meaning Alejandro may live. ;D
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Post by Isabella on Jan 28, 2012 22:17:23 GMT -5
OK, so there's two new promos up on YT. Well.. not new per se, just longer versions of the promos aired, but they're kinda interesting, because you get a better look at what's going on. Alejandro lusting over Sebastian: Diego handing out condoms (I included this because he might be a bisexual character. I don't know if it's intentional or not. He may just be handing out condoms, but it certainly looked like he handed out condoms to the people he wanted to have sex with, because he was definitely flirting. As I said.. it may not be intentional, maybe he just comes across as he's flirting.. maybe it's just bad acting, who knows.. I'm adding this anyway, because he might be bisexual). I think you're right. I have no idea what the hell anybody in this show is talking about, since nobody has subtitled it yet, but from the way he was holding up the condoms, as well as saying their names, I also assumed he was planning on giving them to the people he was attracted to. Also, just by the way he said, "Alejandro" and the way he was looking at him, I think he's definitely bi. I also hear that Diego is supposed to be David, and David was initially portrayed as being into women. However, I think David classified himself as gay. Diego seems legitimately bisexual. Oooh, I'm getting excited just typing this! Gay guy/bi guy relationship? Count me in! Note: After re-watching the clip, I noticed that he was saying, "para" before their names, which means "for". So, when holding up the condom, he said, "For Alejandro", with a huge grin on his face. I think that's a pretty good indication of what he's got planned , even if you don't include the dramatic pause in the music and the sexy techno afterward. Diego totally wants him xD.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 29, 2012 4:33:52 GMT -5
Someone needs to tell the guy uploading that he should rip off yt instead of the original site, since the episodes posted on youtube are of a higher quality. There's not a big difference between 360 and 240, but at least 360 is somewhat watchable, unlike the 240 he is posting in now! it probably means that we'll have to wait a little longer for his uploads, because the episodes are uploaded to yt later than on the original website, but I think it's worth it. I want to actually be able to watch his clips, and right now I can't, they're unwatchable because of the low quality. I don't get why he just doesn't use the episodes on YT to make the storyline? I mean.. at least the episodes on YT are of a higher quality. Isabella: I think you're right! I think Diego is bisexual, read the character description in jazz73's post
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Post by Isabella on Jan 29, 2012 12:00:52 GMT -5
Someone needs to tell the guy uploading that he should rip off yt instead of the original site, since the episodes posted on youtube are of a higher quality. There's not a big difference between 360 and 240, but at least 360 is somewhat watchable, unlike the 240 he is posting in now! it probably means that we'll have to wait a little longer for his uploads, because the episodes are uploaded to yt later than on the original website, but I think it's worth it. I want to actually be able to watch his clips, and right now I can't, they're unwatchable because of the low quality. I don't get why he just doesn't use the episodes on YT to make the storyline? I mean.. at least the episodes on YT are of a higher quality. Isabella: I think you're right! I think Diego is bisexual, read the character description in jazz73's post Yeah, I mean, what else could possibly be going on? If he was "handing out" condoms like some people say, then he wouldn't have a limited number of them, and why would he only be giving them to those people? I doubt they all asked him for condoms... That's how I see it in my head xD. The scene also had obvious homoerotic vibes. Can't even describe how delighted I am that there will be a bisexual character! I have seldom seen these types of characters portrayed well. Being bisexual myself, I've always wanted to find an honest, brave representation, but they always end up like one of these: 1) Female bisexual makes out with girls sometimes but solely dates males (ex: Thirteen from House) 2) Male solely dates women, meets guy and falls in love, or has sex, and is suddenly exclusively gay (ex: Ste from Hollyoaks) 3) Male solely dates women, falls in love with another male for the first time, cheats with a woman, but still refer to themselves as gay (ex: Christian from VL and David from FoQ) 4) Lesbian has an affair with a man, but all anybody ever says is how a lesbian can't have sex with a man and still be a lesbian; nobody ever asks if they're bi (ex: Lindsay from QAF, Julianne Moore in The Kids Are All Right, and pretty much every lesbian storyline ever). Just a note: I don't think Lindsay or Julianne Moore's characters were bi, just curious since they'd been in relationships with females for years and years, but it was still off-putting to me that nobody ever thought to ask if they might be bi. I think this one will be different. It seems Diego likes girls, but it also seems he likes Alejandro more. He was smiling at all the girls but he got that dark, serious, sexy look when he said Alejandro's name . Who wouldn't, though? Ale is SUCH A CUTIE. I can't even take it. These two are going to be seriously hot together. For those worried that they might not kiss given the conservative nature of Telemundo, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Since the show has started, there's been a fair bit of nudity and drug use, so even if we don't see them have sex, I can almost guarantee we will get at least one kiss. Hopefully 10,000, but for some reason, I have a feeling that's an unrealistic expectation XD. Technically there has already been a same-sex "kiss" on the show (when everyone is passing something to each other using their mouth - I don't know what it was - and Alejandro passes it to Maximo).
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Post by justinate on Jan 30, 2012 8:15:25 GMT -5
Finally got round to watching the first four episodes in a row. So here are my observations:
I was a little surprised to see so much of the original FOQ reproduced almost verbatim, as the promotional material/interviews had led me to believe RP was "inspired by", rather than "adapted from" FOQ. I guess it does help me follow the show since no one seems to have uploaded a copy with the English captions, but then again I just finished the Russians' exact remake of the same show so it's getting a bit repetitive now! The way Telemundo is running through the story, I expect they will be able to finish all the seasons of FOQ before the telenovela ends - but hopefully not with poor Alejandro's death a la Fer!
Alejandro hasn't had much screen time so far but I assume/hope the situation will improve when his coming-out/gay romance stories begin. Kevin Aponte (who is a cutie) has done a decent job with what little screentime he has. Actually, I'm pretty impressed by the general level of acting talent on this show; I'd had very low expectations!
I've seen the very same plot of Julio/Yuri/Sebastian grieving their brother's suicide three times now but it still gets me every time. The scene where Sebastian crawled up next to his dead brother on the top of the car was heartbreaking. The Miranda/Mauricio plot, on the other hand, I find rather stale. They are both very pretty people and really should not be wearing clothes EVER but I've never really understood why Miranda/Irene would continuously hook up with her underage student after finding out who and how old he was. As far as Maximo and Gonzalo go, the show's attempts to make me feel sorry for them aren't really working. I never did like Cabano (Maximo's Spanish counterpart) and Maximo's smirking at poor half-drowned Alejandro sobbing didn't really help; one would assume given his home situation Maximo would be more sympathetic to bullying/abuse. Gorka (Gonzalo's counterpart) eventually grew on me in the Spanish original, but it took a long, long time. I quite like this actor so maybe I will eventually warm to him too.
I don't think we've seen Diego so far unless I missed him while fast-forwarding some of the more boring, non-Alejandro bits of these episodes. I am also thrilled that it appears he will be a bisexual guy since those are so rarely represented on television and, when they are, it's usually a depiction that does not understand what bisexuality is. (Let's hope RP does not fall into this pit.)
The show has been a lot more risque than I had imagined. The pilot episode had Mauricio, Gonzalo and Miranda totally naked (although I was rather amused by the lengths they went to keep the full nudity obscured). There were also two graphic depictions of violent death, and two same-sex kisses (I know they weren't really "kisses" but there was mouth-to-mouth contact between members of the same sex and it was more sensual than the usual device for delivering non-romantic same-sex liplocks, i.e. mouth-to-mouth resuscitation). Given all this, I think we can reasonably hope for some gay kissing between Alejandro and his future paramour.
Now for the shallow part of these observations: Alejandro. Mauricio. Sebastian. Gonzalo. Hottie-Teacher-Whose-Name-I-Don't-Know. Damn! Is this show chock full of eye candy or what? I really hope all the nakedness in the pilot wasn't just a ploy to lure in viewers and then we get practically nothing. I did note suspiciously that Mauricio went from wearing those clingy little briefs in the pilot to sleeping in boxers and a t-shirt two episodes later. Show, you'd better not be yanking my chain! I demand that these hunks be kept in a perpetual state of undress.
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Post by kingsrave on Jan 30, 2012 17:04:09 GMT -5
i found a translated video of the show on this tumblr: relacionespeligrosas.tumblr.com i'm not sure if they'll upload more videos
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 30, 2012 18:19:51 GMT -5
Good find, Kingsrave! Here is the vid from Tumblr. It is from youtube channel: telemundotv:
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 31, 2012 8:56:44 GMT -5
I don't know if MsLovablepink plans on continuing to sub and upload Alejandro's story, but here are her clips from episode 1 with subtitles:
Part 1:
Part 2:
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 31, 2012 13:31:08 GMT -5
Chapter 5 courtesy of LopezCorona10 (no subs):
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Post by davbust on Jan 31, 2012 23:49:10 GMT -5
I found a video with subtitles. and it looks like the user will keep on uploading.
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