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Post by seanny on Mar 6, 2013 0:16:39 GMT -5
I am tired of seeing Chloe in Daniel's shirt. It time we see Sonny in Will's shirt or vice versa . This happened once already. They swapped the black wifebeater that Sonny often wears. The first time WilSon attempted to make love, Will wore the tee and then after they actually had sex Sonny had it on. Anybody else notice that Vargas and Eric sort of resemble each other in their one scene?
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Post by seanny on Feb 27, 2013 19:36:37 GMT -5
I really like and respect Camilla Banus, but who on God's green earth would ever nominate her or GH's Lindsay Morgan for an Emmy? They are clearly two of the worst actresses on daytime at the moment.
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Post by seanny on Feb 27, 2013 19:24:29 GMT -5
I don't know if he will win Michael on Gh and Fen and Jamie on young and the restless had some really good emotional scenes. He is probably going to have tough competition this year. I don't think Chandler has to worry about Chad Duell at all. His character, Michael has had very little to do in the past year other than to be a prop for Starr. There's very little material for him to submit for consideration.
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Post by seanny on Feb 26, 2013 1:00:02 GMT -5
I wish TPTB would stop being so darn schizophrenic with WilSon. One minute it's "We're going to be as bold as we can be" and the next it's "Let's try to hide WilSon in plain sight". That said, I really appreciate all the risks the show has taken to give us a romance that just happens to be between two men. Yesterday could have been the best WilSon scenes yet, but "cut, cut, rush, rush" dissipated the goodness that was there severely IMO. Why do all WilSon kisses have to be cut short. The BriSon kissing was epic in length and neither Sonny's head or heart was in the room. Now when he's fully engaged with the man he truly loves, "Snippy" wants us to be less interested? I will not even get on their case for leaving out tons of important conversation. Poor Brian. I wonder if we'll see him being kicked to the curb again.
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Post by seanny on Feb 19, 2013 14:06:20 GMT -5
Hey guys is there anyway we can agree to table all the Brian vs. Will talk at least temporary? It's all gotten to be so circular and it's drowned out every other aspect of the show from discussed here. No matter how much I dislike WilSon as a couple, I know that is the story that we are getting and all the complaining in the world is not going to change it anytime soon.
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Post by seanny on Feb 19, 2013 3:45:32 GMT -5
No, i don't equate Will with that. I'm going to reformulate my sentence, it's impossible to find a good guy who treat Sonny worse than Will do. --- It was his intention to hurt Sonny? of course not, but if it were he wouldn't cause more pain. I still disagree overall with that second part, but thank you for re-explaining. I think I understand what you are getting at even if I have a different opinion. I have to agree with meaghan on this one. Regardles of the one lie, Will is still "boyfriend of the year". There are a lot more worse things that could have happened to Sonny relationship wise. For instance, let's pretend that Sonny did successfully move on to Brian and then Brian physically abuses him during an argument or we find out that Brian is heavily involved with drugs. Actually, wouldn't mind seeing a gay story going this way because these are very realistic situations that LGBT (and hets too) couples sometimes face.
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Post by seanny on Feb 19, 2013 2:17:00 GMT -5
However. With that said, just to be on equal footing here (because isn't that the point?), do you think Neil Patrick Harris should keep David Burtka in a closet somewhere so people buy his performance as Barney, who is straight, on How I Met Your Mother? NPH is not that good of an example because I knew of his personal situation before HIMYM even existed. When I watching someone playing a gay role, I like to imagine that actor really knows what it's really like to be gay. Sadly, some of these young straight actors do not and those are the ones that end up making cringe inducing comments to the press. I agree that Freddie is pretty much out outside the normal in the sense that he seems to really get what life is like for someone LGBT and he volunteers in his spare time to help make the world a safer place for all people regardless of sexuality. To tell you that truth -and this is not really Freddie related, whenever I hear/read so and so actor playing a gay role is dating someone of the opposite sex IRL, I kind of take the news with a grain of salt. Just because they have a female on their arm doesn't mean that they aren't fooling around with dudes on the side. Also, just because someone knows they are straight doesn't mean they have never done any same-sex experimentation in the past. I usually hear that in most onscreen gay/lesbian pairings, one of the two is either gay in real life, has close gay friends or may even experimented at some point in the lives. A few celebs are even open about their dallies on the other side of fence.
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Post by seanny on Feb 18, 2013 4:23:56 GMT -5
Secondly, in my personal opinion, I have never gotten the impression that the show meant to paint Will as a villain. He's not one. He made dumb mistakes and I've gotten angry with him but he is, as I've seen it, not at ALL someone the show wants us to dislike. They play very strongly on HIM being a victim because of the way he was brought up. Bad things have happened to this kid and as a result, he really screws up sometimes. Doesn't make the damage he does hurt any less, but his sole intent is certainly not to harm or sabotage people. THAT is a villain. I didn't mean Will is a villain in a literal sense. The show is writing him just like they do Sami where we sometimes hate her actions, but we don't hate her character and most of time we are actually rooting for her. The poor decisions that Will makes causes a lot of conflicts for both himself and others. He is at first the hypothetical "villain" in the baby storyline because he caused a lot of grief for himself, Gabi and Nick. His indecisiveness was the cause of all the drama at the time. Of course, once Will got his head on straight (no pun intended the real villain, Nick was revealed. The same thing happened with the breakup with Sonny. Will was the bad guy because of his lie. TPTB then does the same thing once more by transitioning Will from "villain" to "victim" by making us the audience feel sorry for him and now "interloper" Brian is the new "villain" just like former"interloper" Nick in the other story. I think the writers used the same underlying formula in both cases.
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Post by seanny on Feb 18, 2013 3:56:41 GMT -5
It's not self righteous. It's an opinion on a character. And I happen to agree with it. Brian is very immature IMO. Misleading Will on what happened between him and Sonny was a cowardly act. If he was so mature and manly, he wouldn't feel the need to mislead Will on what happened. He only did that hoping it would create a bigger rift between Will and Sonny. What is going on with this board lately? There is no respect for people on here. People being attacked for having opinions on fictional characters? I get that it's an opinion and it's my opinion that what he wrote sounds rather self righteous to me. It's not a personal attack on elliot. I just happen to disagree with the both of you that it's immature to want to get revenge on someone who hurt somebody that you care for. If I were in Brian shoes, I'd want Will to suffer by rubbing in the fact the Sonny is now dating me too. I wouldn't go about it quite the way Brian did though. There really is no other legitimate reason for his action towards Will. I think you must be mistaking me for someone else as I made no comment about rose tinted glasses and I'm pretty sure nothing I've posted could be seen as a rebuke to anyone on this forum because to be perfectly honest I'm not interested in having a go at anyone simply because their opinion differs from my own as my ego is not that fragile. The glasses stuff was in response to some other posts above yours. I was feeling to lazy to start a new post so I just added it on to my response to you. When I used word rebuke, I meant you were rebuking Brian which is perfectly fine since he's not a real live person. Something I need to be really careful of is when I write in a public forum like this I have no control over how my words are received. I left one word out of the first sentence that wrote to you and that may things sound a bit harsher than I intended. I like hearing your and anybody else's opinions on Days regardless of whether I agree or not. I hope nothing that I have said will dissuade you from continuing to post them.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 18:24:30 GMT -5
Exactly. The minute he did that the idea of Brian being the mature person that would treat Sonny better than Will flew out of the window because that is not the way mature, grown up people behave. It also brought his motives into question because he and Sonny are not lovers or even best friends. And even if they were both or either of these things it was clear that Sonny himself still cared about Will and was not ready completely cut him out of his life so for Brian to take it upon himself to attempt to drive a wedge between them was utterly presumptuous. Dude, you're really coming off as self righteous there. Brian had a (not well-defined) reason for getting in Will's face. It's impossible to determine if he his actions were mature or not since we were not made privy to what he was thinking at the time. I want to say thing about the "tinted glasses" comment. The show set Will up as the villain in both the baby (initially) and breakup storylines. Sonny is being portrayed as the victim and Brian is the quote on quote interloper. TPTB wanted us to dislike Will for awhile and then start to route for him again when starts acting responsibly again. That said I do not think that anybody should be chastised for not liking Will or feeling that he is undeserving of Sonny. If you want to rebuked somebody over the harsh lens that Will is being view through nowadays, it's the writers not your fellow forum members who should be rebuked.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 17:54:21 GMT -5
Personally, I hate it when an actor feels that they must state their sexual preference. It diminishes my enjoyment of that actor's performance because now I am focused on the fact that are indeed just acting. I really respect when actors who play LGBT roles tell the media that it's none of their damn business who they are sleeping with IRL.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 17:15:11 GMT -5
And speaking of Brian, while he might have served some purpose as a one night stand Sonny immediately regretted, an on going relationship made no sense as Sonny was still in love with Will. Brian knowing that and not caring suggested he was simply into it for the sex and not a lot else. I'm also somewhat suspicious about why he would have gone out of his way to make Will think he and Sonny were sleeping together. If his focus was on Sonny why make trouble with Will? It wasn't that he didn't care. Brian is hoping that Sonny will eventually get over Will. If he just wanted Sonny for sex, he would have moved on after Sonny said let's take it slow. Brian attempted to mislead Will because he was pissed that Will hurt Sonny just as he had warned Sonny of before. He wanted Will to hurt just like Sonny is hurting right now.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 4:39:18 GMT -5
They weren't apart long enough for me either although I would not have minded if they decided to only stay friends forever. Poor Brian. What a waste it was to bring Brant back for this minor breakup. If Sonny wants to try with Brian again the next time Will collapses their relationship, Sonny is going to have to do the pursuing.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 4:05:18 GMT -5
Brian is in no position to judge Will. Will's life has nothing to do with Brian. It's none of his business and that includes what goes on between Will and Sonny. Brian was not defending Sonny or trying to avenge him, he was playing "Naa naa naa naa, I got yo man". It had nothing to do with wanting to protect Sonny and everything to do with saying "See Will, I'm a real gay man and you are inferior". Brian believes he's better than Will, not just for Sonny but as a gay man. He's done everything but make a poster. Brian is a flim flam man, just like Nick when it comes to mean girling it all over Salem. We don't know enough about Brian to know whether you or I are right about his motives for rubbing his dating Sonny in Will's face. To me the only reason for Brian to have that conversation with Will is Sonny. That's all he cares about. Brian doesn't care about Will at all so having a "Who the better gay contest?" with him seems kind of out of place even though that is how Brian was introduced to us last year. Remember, that was MarDar's Brian. I have reason to believe that this is a different Brian just like we have a different Will now too. Brian's only involvement with Will when it comes to Sonny and he has the right to give his opinion on Sonny and WilSon so long as Sonny allows it. I have to say though that Trish is right about Brian being Captain Elusive. Maybe he is somebody who doesn't open up to people right away but he better give Sonny something to go on soon else Sonny will start to see him as a gamer.
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Post by seanny on Feb 17, 2013 1:53:48 GMT -5
I didn't say he dumped Will. I said he will dump Brian, which he Will when he finds out that he misled Will. Sonny has been nothing but honest with Brian. He told him not that he had feelings for Will, but that he was still in love with him. Sonny in all this has shown, that no matter how he might feel about someone, if they lie to him, that's major. So to say that Brian has done nothing to Sonny is completely wrong. He is being nice and saying that he's ready to go slow, when he knows that the reason that he's getting this chance is because he led Will astray. Yes Will should kick Brian's ass instead of slinking away, but he's actually thinking of Sonny and wanting him to be happy, as oppose to Brian who is thinking of himself and feeling that he can make Sonny forget about Will for his own selfish purposes. I agree that Sonny won't want anything to do with Brian when he finds out what he said to Will. Sonny was an ass to Will. If it wasn't for Brian misleading Will, him and Sonny would be back together. I get Will and Sonny haven't communicated well, but Will only felt he was doing what's best for Sonny thinking Sonny was happier moving on without Will. Though I do wonder if it even comes out? At the end of the day it makes no difference. Even if Sonny had sex with Brian it would have meant nothing but pure sex. Even with Will believing they had sex, Will still wants to be with Sonny. Sonny doesn't even need to dump Brian. They aren't together. They went on a date and a half. It's not like they are a couple or anything close to that. Sonny flashing back to his rocking climbing with Will and his expression thinking about it, says it all. I think Sonny knows there is no fighting what his heart wants and it's not Brian. Brian misleading Will was vengeance for Will hurting Sonny. Brian knew that Will would do so just as he warned Sonny last year. If Sonny passes on Brian this time then this should be the last time. Brian will have to move on for good. The thing is though, if Will is anything like his mama, Sonny will have many disappointments to look forward to. So far the writers kind of have Will saying that he will be the opposite of Sami, but his lie of omission is right out of her playbook. I'd like Will and Brian to have a heated argument ala Ejami that leads to a steamy kiss and then hate sex and yet they both still want Sonny. Now, that would really be hot and complicated! Will and Brian will become "enemies with benefits" behind Sonny's back and we'll have "Brill" to go along with BriSon and WilSon. I much rather see this than that stupid, done many times already baby story.
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Post by seanny on Feb 15, 2013 15:02:35 GMT -5
Here's my take on yesterday's episode: It was great to get a Nabi scene that had nothing to do with the baby or WilSon. If I had opened the door to find what Gabi did, Valentine's Day would have been a very sad day for my friends and family because I swear I would have died of a heart attack. ;D Damn! How does BB stay so thin and well-defined all the time? Does he eat? Wow! Sonny, Brian and Chad all in one scene. Oh, man all that hotness together?? It was senory overloaded - hotter than the shower scene for me but not hotter than Blake. Sonny and Chad should have (jokingly) decided to be each other's Valentines before Brian showed up. It's shame that TPTB did not let Brian and Chad interact a little. Brian is to Sonny what Sonny is to Will - just an accessory. I liked the BriSon scenes but I thought there should have been a quick pec before Brian left. BTW, you all know that Sonny was so going to kick him to the curb before he had the "just friends" flashback. It would be fun to see Brian and Gabi interact. Days has to find a way to get Matt Bomer, uh Brant shirtless. The man is just too darn hot. One really has to suspend disbelief to realize that IRL Sonny would have jumped at the chance at being with someone so friendly, sexy and "A-List" (like himself) at least temporarily regardless of how in love he is with Will. Why can't gays on television be slutty sometimes? It kind of like reverse discrimination. If Will never turns into a manwhore then he will never truly be Sami 2.0. Speaking of Will, I wish "powerful" Will would show up and try to blackmail Brian's behind out of Sonny's orbit. I would love to see Will confront Brian and tell him to stay away from his man even though I am still firmly on Team BriSon (and Team Channy/Chonny). The shower scene was hot but it would have been hotter if Sonny would have been all wet as well. Also, the BriSon kisses were still better, but we know it's kind of an apples to orange thing. Will is in love with Sonny's hair. Actually if you look at the shower scenes in slo-mo after Sonny vanishes, you can really see again why CM is an Emmy winning actor. The detail level of the emotions that Will is feeling just so beautifully and meticulous portrayed by Chandler. Bravo! The faces that Casey was making in Chad's scenes with Kristen were so sad and cute that I just wanted to jump through the TV and hug him. As for Bristen, Brady was being such a jackarse that I wanted Kristen to haul off and smack the crap out of him already. I'm a EM fan, but I can't stand to watch any scene with Brady in it. His character is too narcissistic, disrespectful and just plain unlikeable to me.
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Post by seanny on Feb 15, 2013 14:05:17 GMT -5
So what is this all about. Looks like somebody might be going to court on DAYS OF OUR LIVES this summer. The NBC soap is casting a character named Melinda Trask, who is a special prosecutor, described as tough, intelligent and confident. DAYS is seeking an experienced African American or Asian actress in the 35 to 50 year old range for the recurring role that will start taping in early March. Great - gotta keep up with the quotas. Will the racist casting on American soaps ever end?
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Post by seanny on Feb 14, 2013 10:59:32 GMT -5
That scene of Will getting the gift was so badly edited. It's not that I didn't like it. His expression was hilarious but it felt like the writers forced it into today's episode completely because they just remembered "Oh, Sonny ordered Will a Valentine's Day gift. My takeaway was that he thought the gift might be apart of the blackmail scheme since he did not seem to know who it came from. Also, it doesn't help that the giftbox is black and not red for Valentine's Day. Just dawned on me. It's interesting that in today's show, Nick came to talk to Hope, just as Kate was warning Rafe to watch out for him. I would think that Rafe would think it's strange that Nick went to Hope instead of him to ask questions about custody. What's strange about him going to one of his closest onscreen family members? Rafe and Hope are both cops, but only Hope is family at the moment so I could see Nick going to her first. Also, if he talks to Rafe there is a risk that Rafe will pass on info to Gabi that will only upset her more than she is already.
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Post by seanny on Feb 13, 2013 14:20:06 GMT -5
PS. Freddie got Sonny's airdates wrong. Sonny was on today. That too in a Gabi flashback. Hilarious!! Well he was technically not working the day today's episode aired so he probably didn't know about the flashback or where it would occur.
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Post by seanny on Feb 12, 2013 12:22:04 GMT -5
I would not say that Brian hurt Will either. However, I do think that Brian sought vengeance on Will because he hurt Sonny whom Brian cares for. It's still Will's fault.
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Post by seanny on Feb 12, 2013 12:05:33 GMT -5
I continue to be amazed at how much of a propaganda experience this story has become. For some, it seems facts, reason, logic, fairness, equality and honesty have been replaced by a steadfast need to support Will the innocent victim in all of this while Sonny has suddenly become a shallow, careless, reckless monster who destroyed the relationship on a whim for no reason at all. That is definitely not the show I have been watching. Are some people hitting the mute button when they watch and are then ad libbing dialogue so that the story fits their pre-conceived view of Will the Innocent Hero and Sonny the Demonic Villain? I do not understand how people could arrive at such a ridiculous conclusion which flies in the face against what has been shown on screen. Have I entered some sort of Bizarro world where everything is backwards? That is about the explanation I have for this insanity I am witnessing. Fact: Will lied to Sonny for months. Fact: Will didn't trust Sonny with the truth. Fact: Will used sex and emotions to hide the truth and his betrayal from Sonny. Fact: Sonny tried to help Will but Will kept shutting him out and denying the existence of his troubles. Fact: Their relationship was over before Sonny kissed Brian. Despite all of this, people still think Will is the good guy and Sonny is an uncaring jerk. I just don't see it nor do I understand how these facts could be interpreted to reach such a conclusion. Then there is Will's refusal to believe Sonny, Chad and EJ, three of the four men to whom he is closest to in his life, despite knowing that Gabi was up to no good last spring. I used to think Will was incredibly naive. Now I think he is incredibly stupid by his own choice. He has plugged his fingers in his ears and is screaming in order to drown out the truth that everyone is telling him. Will is so unlikeable right now that I am about ready to side with Nick in the custody fight. Nick's homophobia is the only stopping that right now. If Will's behavior and personality regress any further, Nick's sins and faults may not seem so bad by comparison. I hope Brian returns and takes Sonny away from that train wreck. I agree with this all too. Will has become almost unwatchable as of late due to TPTB writing him so darn stupid. I wish BriSon was the real deal because even though we no nothing about Brian, him and Sonny seem so much more mature than the child that is having a child. I know some of you are tried of me bashing WilSon, but how can I stop when the show constantly makes Will a douche and have Sonny making bad choice after bad choice concerning him? I'm about to start a new club, AGCOTW.... Any Gay Couple Other Than WilSon. While there's been parts to WilSon and the baby storylines that have been well-written, as a whole both need some serious improvements.
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Post by seanny on Feb 12, 2013 0:28:01 GMT -5
It would hurt like hell if I were Will, yes. And I'm actually surprised they haven't shown Will a bit more 'devastated' as the spoiler said it would be. I'd be curled up in a ball somewhere feeling super bad about myself. I think he would be if the baby wasn't there as a distraction. Will pretty much said so too.
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Post by seanny on Feb 11, 2013 21:46:30 GMT -5
I think that Brian would eventually cheat on Sonny if he and Sonny became a couple. He strikes me as the cheating type. I don't think he's a good match for Sonny. Will is less likely to cheat. I think he's much better boyfriend material. Sonny would be bored to death with a business-oriented guy like Mateo. Sonny likes adventure. Will also happens to have a deep love for Sonny, which neither Brian nor Mateo have for him as far as we know. Someone who loves you is by default better boyfriend material, I think. If Sonny loves Will, which he obviously does, then he's just going to have to suck it up and accept Will baggage and all and stop bailing on the entire relationship every time the going gets rough. I think eventually Will will turn out to be just like his serial bedhopping many times married Mama. Although, his being gay will probably be a limitation because gay people cannot be portrayed as slutty on television yet. I can understand you thinking that about Brian though since we know next to nothing about the guy except that he's a little pushy.
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Post by seanny on Feb 11, 2013 17:04:56 GMT -5
I know this is a soap, but it was crystal clear that Will wasn't boyfriend material in the moment they started their relationship. I think Will is boyfriend material in a casual sense which is certainly not what Sonny needs. I always picture Will with someone like Tyler i.e. more a of care-free club kid type and Sonny with a business-oriented guy like Mateo. I really wish TPTB would have made Brian a serious contender for Sonny's heart. Instead, we're all just waiting for him to go away again and WilSon to reform. What sucks is that this will mostly likely be the last time that Brian makes a play for Sonny since I would be ridiculous for him to be rejected twice by the same guy and then come back for a third rejection.
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Post by seanny on Feb 8, 2013 11:59:13 GMT -5
The writers are totally over playing that part. I like Will but it's hard to root for someone that is flat out stupid. But it's just by the number writing for every character. And it's soooo heavy handed its obvious. Will is all the sudden this trusting angel never mind all the blackmailing and fire tongue he showed last year. Gabi can't make a Decision absent Nick, never mind she schemed fine on her own last year. And Nick is a raging homophobe nut, never mind even though he kill Melanie's dad she still supported him......he was still likeable. Every character has their role and the writers are making sure we know them. You're right. There's far too much cookie cutter "mustache-twirling" going on at Days right now. I wish that we could get back the confident Will that Sonny first met. I mean come on -aren't these same writers as back then? Even MarDar's "powerful" Will would run ruffshot all over Nabi's collective butts.
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