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Post by chrys on Jun 11, 2010 2:10:01 GMT -5
bdc I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand her. I just had to add this: Lalo says he has better abs than Flaco (we all know that's not true, Lalo, but no one cares ) and Flaco protests so Lalo goes: Bien que te gustan. Or: you like them just fine. ;D
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Post by chrys on Jun 11, 2010 1:55:36 GMT -5
@keviniantojack Hmm I haven't watched all their scenes together yet. I'm gonna get back to you once I do that
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Post by chrys on Jun 11, 2010 1:45:05 GMT -5
The show started off boring so I thought I wouldn't have much to write, but it turned out I was very much wrong. First, some info: No one wants Chiqui. He desperately wants to leave the country, but his team in Spain doesn't want him back and no other teams want to sign him either. So he asked Tato to be his manager again. New Giselle is a therapist by day. Couple therapy to be precise. 73. Tato is a bit slow. He had the great idea of setting up cameras around his house and in Flaco's room. If he had had that idea before, he would have pretty much found out about all the plots on this show Anyway, because he's got a great view of Flaco's room now, he must send us those tapes asap 74. Never say something can't get worse. Remember Sofía? She just got worse. She now has this constant high-pitched voiced that's terribly annoying Also, we found out what she does for a living. She's a hitwoman - kills for money. 75. The police love a dead suspect, because then they don't even have to pretend to try to do their jobs. Nino's "dead" so they're putting the entire blame for every single case they should be investigating on him and voilà, cases closed. Time for vacation! 76. New Flaco is awesome and seems to be here to stay. If you thought Flaco would revert to his crying, dejected self, you're wrong. There he was in the empty house, and after thoroughly examining the refrigerator and picking a beer (yeah, that's nutrition lol), he got this playful look on his face and called Lalo He invited him over for dinner and a movie. Later Lalo arrived and they played around (innocently) a bit [and I have to say I love when the show gives us these relaxed scenes of companionship between them] while Román watched them through the cameras. Does that make Román creepy or a fanboy? Or both? And now he really needs to give us the tapes. 77. Flaco shouldn't worry so much. Despite his sad face on yesterday's episode, Lalo is actually being a lot more hopeful about their relationship. First, yesterday he actually said "our relationship." Second, the way he talked about the Lily situation implied he expects them to keep seeing each other. Also, while he talked he kept saying they were good and searching with his eyes for Flaco's confirmation. And now he talks about choosing the movie next time, so he clearly likes his freedom but isn't planning on going anywhere soon either. 78. Never say something can't get worse [2]. Salgado is awfully boring, right? Well, his daughter is unbearable Really, every phrase she utters is absolute agony. 79a. Self-control and good instincts are great things, but they usually don't last long enough to do you any good. The boys manage to last an entire bad movie quite apart on the couch - no touching, no kissing. When Flaco wants things to go further, Lalo shows his good instincts and says he doesn't feel good in Tato's house. So he leaves, despite Flaco's protests. Flaco's face against the door show he's so whipped And Román's face from his creeper office shows he's disappointed just like we are Fanboy then? 80. Show has a comprehension problem. The next day Román shows Tato the tapes and we see Lalo came back shortly after leaving. So yay Lalo But really, show? I told you to send/give us the tapes, not shows us the action on very bad quality and small size on Tato's laptop We want to see it properly! Guess it was my fault for not making myself clear. 79b. But back to the action we saw second-handed. Lalo came back and hungry, launching himself on Flaco. Awesome Self-control and preservation instincts? Long gone now ;D They move fast to Flaco's bedroom and we see through another camera them undressing each other and falling into bed, making out. Great stuff - too bad they didn't air it properly. Román had a contented look on his face, and Tato said "we got them." Of course they're happy - they're seeing it more closely than we are Anyway, Román tries to disguise his happiness by saying Tato has to pay him double to watch that shit, but truth is he didn't have to keep watching. Also, they both didn't have to keep watching it now either. But they do. 81. If Tato has career troubles, he should consider turning to the porn industry. Really, he's already off to a good start. If he had just been a little more clever and done this camera thing a lot earlier, by now he would have enough great material to make him a load of money, cause his house has seen so much great action (and some not so great, in his own bedroom, but let's forget about that). Tonight's question: - Why does the show fail so miserably with its female characters? So many of them are just so annoying. Even Mía. She's great, but she's not being like that much lately. Probably Salgado's lameness rubbing off on her. Tonight's wish: - Please let us not suffer through images of the boys only through bad quality video tapes.
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Post by chrys on Jun 10, 2010 14:07:26 GMT -5
Can they make Sophia any less attractive? I don't think so. That was not a very appealing love scene between Sophia's bad dye job and Tato's beer belly. I didn't find that new girl Giselle all that attractive either. I don't know what it is, maybe it is the shape of her face. I hope she is not around very long. Don't go saying that - they might find a way to make it even worse And I agree with you. The new Giselle isn't that attractive. Her huge forehead creeps me out. And by the way, I won't be able to watch the show live today so recap will come later again.
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Post by chrys on Jun 10, 2010 0:51:27 GMT -5
Laaate recap cause I missed the show on streaming. Show was interesting in many aspects today, but it had one major flaw. I'll get to it on the very first lesson: 63. What's really bad the first time gets worse on the second time. Just when the boys had managed to erase Sofía and Tato's scenes from our minds, she's back and they show them in bed again [Really, show, get a clue! Who wants to see that?! Hint: show us Mía and someone other than Salgado ] Worse yet, she has this awful blond dye job that is just painful to look at On other news, she tells Tato she thinks Mirta's death was planned by Lily, Flaco and Lalo [yeah, like they could agree on anything ] So now the boys have vengeful Tato on their tails. On the plus side, at least it isn't Nino 64. Flaco is mastering the fine art of having private conversations in public. Yeah, that was sarcasm He chased Lalo around the training court, speaking louder and louder and overall making a scene. You're just so secretive, Flaco Anguila's face when he overheard them (is it even overhearing when they're talking above normal voice tone?) was priceless. And Chiqui again tried to be a great friend and threw a ball at them to make them stop (he failed). Well, Flaco wanted to know what Lalo had talked about with Lily and Lalo didn't want to discuss it then and there. 65. Anguila is a perfect gossiper Not only he loves gossip, he also possess that traditional trait of making assumptions out of conversations he only partially overheard. He got in his head that they were fighting about Lily because Lalo was having something with her And did he really make a Rambo reference? Cause if I heard him right, it was priceless ;D 66. Better late than never is a true saying. Boring Salgado's daughter entered the show, Salgado acted clueless and Mía got fed up with him. Later on the episode, she had a nice talk with Chiqui, so I guess we're finally moving away from Laura/Salgado to Mía/Chiqui. 67. Show may be awful to us [see lesson 63] but it's usually quick to make up to us Tonight we had plenty of... wait for it... shirtless, casual, hair down Nino (aka Lazarus) But not only that! We got hot scenes of rough sex between Nino and that Giselle girl! They're supposed to have this BDSM thing going on and those were the raciest sex scenes I've seen in a telenovela or soap. I haven't watched that many, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it was definitely stronger than the other sex scenes on the show. Which leads us to our next lesson... 68. If you're going to have scenes of high erotic content, Nino is your character and Valenzuela is your man The girl turns me off a little, but those were great scenes anyway. Thank you show Plus, we got pleeeenty of tattoo sightings! On related news, this Giselle might be hiding something. She also took a picture of sleeping Nino and sent on a text, saying something like: "Look at the mancandy I'm fucking." 69. Lalo is capable of talking sense instead of freaking out. Yeah, that was seen many episodes ago, but now he's back on that track. While again practicing that fine art of carrying very private talks while walking around during practice, Lalo told Flaco what Lily had told him and said he wasn't happy with her meddling in his life. Flaco defended her a little and Lalo said that they could even tell the truth to a psychologist for the kids, but that he didn't want her meddling in their relationship Then he said he liked to be free, to be together when and if possible, and Flaco seemed very saddened by that. He probably wants more commitment. 70. Chiqui and Anguila are funny. Okay, I'm cheating, that's not a new lesson, but the scene where Anguila was *trying* to interview Chiqui was great. Here's the true lesson: Anguila is great journalist material One of his questions to Chiqui? He says that people have been talking about football players and sex before matches, and then asks: "Tell them, is masturbation sex?" ;D 71. Lalo can be fierce. That's a huge achievement for someone with a boyish face and beautiful curls, so we have to applaud him. He had this face-off with Marga where they teased, insulted and threatened each other. Marga, of course, was her homophobic self. 72. Lily is more like Marga every day. The above confrontation between Marga and Lalo was brought to an end by the arrival of Lily, who looked pretty much like Marga's lost sister. They looked like they were sharing an inside joke at Lalo's expense. This leads us to tonight's question... - Is a Marga and Lily alliance of doom the answer to our doubts about Lily's behavior to Lalo the other night?
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 17:03:55 GMT -5
*waves to lurking Flaco&Lalo* @keviniantojack You got a neighbor banging on the wall over my recap?? That's a great compliment to my work Thanks! And I fully support greeting friends with French kisses!
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 12:07:23 GMT -5
@keviniantojack I'm glad you liked the recap so much you risked getting in trouble with the neighbor Though it's not my doing, it's Anguila's - he's great recap material I thought about commenting Nino and Tato's kiss, but then I was like, PDAs between men are not nearly as uncommon in Argentina as in other places, like here in Brazil or in the US... Guess I should have mentioned it, since you all loved it so much But yeah, the on the lips thing was just Nino overdoing it because he's so happy to be dead Not unheard of, either, but we can hope that he's more flexible than he thinks, right? bdc "Nino (aka Lazarus)" is awesome. Can I use that?
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 1:44:13 GMT -5
I don't understand why Lily is so determined to have Flaco "out" himself. It would ruin him financially and professionally, which would also affect her and the children. So what is her angle? Revenge? The kids don't need to know about this at their ages, not yet anyway. I don't get it. I don't get it, either, ari. When she first mentioned it, I thought she was just being silly, trying to be compassionate without thinking it through. But then we learned she had talked to Mirtha and maybe killed her to shut her up about it, and she threatened Lalo so he wouldn't talk. So she doesn't want anyone to find out, yet she wants him to come clean and to tell the kids and a psychologist? So now I'm inclined to think she does have an evil ploy planned. But that's probably because of her lack of facial expressions - she's always looking arrogant and calculating. If she does, what is it? Just revenge? But it would affect her financially, she must know that. Maybe she's more worried about pushing Lalo away? It could be it - Lalo is determined not to come clean to anyone else. Or maybe it's a convoluted plan to rule her off as a suspect on Mirtha's murder. If she's the one to encourage Flaco out of the closet, then no one would suspect she killed Mirtha to protect that secret. I don't know - maybe she's just being silly and/or petty.
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 1:28:51 GMT -5
emsolOh hey emsol! *waves back* Glad you showed up I thought so - it was a bit mumbled, right? I think it's something like "dos locas", referring to Flaco and Lalo, and yeah, Flaco definitely didn't like it, but as you say, Anguila was quick to say it was a joke and he's always putting his foot in my mouth, so I think Flaco dismissed it just as quickly. I replayed that bit a lot of times and it's still not clear
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 0:44:59 GMT -5
Manuel & Lalo - ep 104b - Longing looks Oh too bad she didn't translate what Anguila said to Flaco when he said he'd stay in his room. He makes a joke but I can't quite get it I was hoping subtitles would enlighten me. Also, I rewatched the locker room scene, and there are actually two more matches ahead of them. I corrected the recap. They sure talk fast after winning a game!
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Post by chrys on Jun 9, 2010 0:12:11 GMT -5
bdc I was waiting anxiously for your post so I could watch it again and save it to my favorites Thank you
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Post by chrys on Jun 8, 2010 22:24:55 GMT -5
This week started off good for the boys, and also for Nino if you care (like I do) Let's go straight to the lessons, shall we? 56. Don't be afraid of the show. I was a bit afraid today they would feature only the aftermath of Flaco and Lalo's encounter, or show something going wrong, like someone walking in on them. But no, show was good to us and came back to the boys still kissing Then, to some nice music with lyrics saying "I'm your man" ;D they gave us that sex scene we were waiting for Thoughts? 57. Nino is back to our screens (me encanta!) and he's having a lot of fun with being dead He's full of funny lines too, saying he's dead but is still punctual and wondering if he has sex with a woman, is it considered necrophilia? ;D Also, he looks good dressed casual and with his hair down. One last thing: yes, it was all a plan by Nino, Román and Tato. The thing with the dead body that was identified as Nino's is that Román killed a guy and exchanged his fingerprints sheet with one with Nino's. Later on, Nino goes to a shady club and a woman with leather gloves catches his attention. He introduces himself as Lucas and she says her name is Giselle (like his dead girlfriend). That can't be a coincidence... 58. Flaco is sweet (not that we didn't know that already). I just needed to comment that scene We see Lalo asleep after sex and Flaco getting dressed to go back to his room, and he stops to pull the covers over Lalo and tuck him in 59. Love and sex makes you play football better. You know what else does that? Thinking you killed someone. There was this fun scene at the locker room after they won an important match. (I couldn't make out a lot of what they said and chanted but it was nice. For those of you taking note, the championship is nearing its end: they have two more matches ahead and if they win and the other team loses, they go for the last match tied in first.) Well, Flaco scored and played great, Lalo and Chiqui also played great. In the interviews scenes afterwards, it was strongly implied that it was their love life that made Flaco and Lalo play so much better than lately. So, by parallelism, since Chiqui also played great, show is telling us that living with the guilt of a murder is also great for performance 60. Anguila is clueless about hiding identities. He's written a biography and he was smart enough to *try* to change people's names so that they wouldn't get recognized. The thing is, he failed miserably. The fake names are almost identical to the real ones. Besides, they're not even possible real names. He just changed a few vowels lol 61. Weird scene outside the club... Thinking back, any scene with Lily in it is weird because the actress is so wooden her face tells you nothing and you always end up thinking she has an evil plan, but it's probably just bad acting So that's our lesson: any scene with Lily is hard to understand. She took the kids to see Flaco and Lalo is there (looking confident and relaxed! That's an improvement!) and asks if there's one more spot on Flaco's little trip with the kids. He seems to want to get closer to them. Flaco said nope, it was just the three of them, and Lily told Lalo they had to talk Yeah, cause things were going too great for the boys. 62. Lalo appeared a lot better in this episode. Not paranoid, relaxed and confident. But that's a shaky improvement. It lasted up till the middle of his conversation with Lily. She told him that if he wanted to get close to the kids, they had to come clean about everything and hire a psychologist to walk the kids through it. Lalo was still firm and confident, saying there was no need, that he was just a friend of the kids' father. Then came the moment of my absolute anger : Lily told him they all knew he wasn't a friend, that he was the girlfriend Man, how I hated that line. What made it even worse was the fact that so many people on the chat box to the side of my screen laughed about it Well, the insult worked. Lalo looked dejected from that point on Lily insisted they had to come clean about Flaco's situation for the kids' sakes. Lily: the only reason your kids would need a psychologist to deal with it it's cause their mother is secretly homophobic and very very jealous. Also: one thing is to suggest to Flaco that he should come out. Another is to try to force him to On other news... - Chiqui now thinks Nino stole all his money. He thought it was his other manager, Vacari. The truth is that Nino and Tato stole his money, so poor boy is only halfway there. - Sofía is back. Yeah, I know, awful I had just managed to forget those horrible scenes with Tato. Today's question: Lily behaves completely different around Flaco and around other people. Will he see her like this? Today's wish: Please don't let our boys argue because of Lily, with Flaco defending her. I know we've seen too much happiness and that it's a telenovela so they should start having troubles again, but not that one
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Post by chrys on Jun 8, 2010 14:08:29 GMT -5
you don't know how many times I searched in google the image of his tattoo. I think it's Gonzalo's tattoo, I found somewhere he was tattoed Oh it's his? Awesome To anyone who wants to take a look, you can see it better than usually on episode 35, part 2
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 21:15:28 GMT -5
We need pictures of his tattoos (I'm guessing they're Nino's and not Valenzuela's but I'm not sure). Every time he's shirtless I try so hard to take a good look at them
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 19:25:42 GMT -5
@keviniantojack Those clips are from Friday's episode, which I recapped back on page 57 of this thread. I don't talk much about the three clips in the middle, though. They're basically about other storylines, except for the longing looks between the boys.
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 16:09:08 GMT -5
El futuro de "Botineras" Pobre Chiqui, no puede dormir pensando que mató a Nino Paredes y no podrá dormir por mucho tiempo con esta culpa. Lo que el futbolista no sabe es la verdad de la historia que, claro, tampoco contaremos en detalle. Ya anticipamos que entraba Victoria Onetto y lo que podemos decir es que será la amante de Nino en la clandestinidad. Y sí es verdad que se llamará Giselle, como el personaje de Flor Peña muerto. Oh casualidad. Una mujer fuerte, para una relación fuerte. Y sadomasoquista. Por eso la Onetto contaba hoy por la radio que buscaba tacos altísimos en lo de Ricky Sarkany. Se los clavará en el pecho a Valenzuela?. En cuanto a la duda sobre el personaje de Pablo Rago solamente diremos que NO muere. El resto por ahora, nos reservamos el misterio. Translation: Poor Chiqui, he can't sleep because he thinks he killed Nino Paredes and he won't be able to sleep for a long time because of that guilt. What the footballer doesn't know is the truth to this story, which of course we won't tell in details either. We previewed that Victoria Onetto would enter the show and what we can tell is that she'll be Nino's lover while he's underground. And yes, it is true that her name will be Giselle, like the dead character of Flor Peña. Oh the coincidence. A strong woman for a strong relationship. And she's a sadomasochist. That's why Onetto said today on the radio that she was looking for super high heels at Ricky Sarkany's. Will she hammer them into Valenzuela's chest? As to the doubts about Pablo Rago's character, all we can say is that he WON'T die. For now, we leave the rest to mystery.
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 15:59:00 GMT -5
Importante enojo se le notó a Isabel Macedo, quien tenía planeado tres días de fuga con amor clandestino (aunque suele “deschavar”, si son famosos), pero en “Botineras” le negaron el permiso. Es que la producción está muy ajustada con el aire y entonces hoy temprano tuvo que grabar en exteriores sin chistar. En la tira y tal como primiciamos, el 28 se despide Graciela Pal, en una semana termina Laura Novoa y Pablo Rago, quien vuelve.Translation: A significant upset to Isabel Macedo was noticed. She had planned three days away with a clandestine love (although it's common to reveal it, if they're famous), but Botineras denied her the permission. The production follows airing very closely (= they don't have many episodes ready in advance of what's being aired) and therefore she had to tape outdoors scenes early today without complaining. On the show and as promised, Graciela Pal leaves on the 28th, in a week Laura Novoa leaves and also Pablo Rago, who will come back (later).
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 14:43:26 GMT -5
waiting for someone to translate the latest episode here's what they said in spanish - Flaco: "...estamos solos" - Lalo: "Esta bién ¿sabés que pasa?... que yo después me quedo mal. Yo me quedo angustiado, me quedo enganchado ¿me entendes?". - Flaco: "Mirá Lalo, yo no se que va a ser de nuestro destino. Lo único que sé es que hay gente ...que espera el amor toda su vida. Y a veces nunca les llega. Yo ya te encontré... y no te quiero perder". - Lalo: "No, está bien. Nosotros nos encontramos... ¿pero que queda? ¿blanquear?... Ya lo hablamos mil veces Flaco. Para mí lo más importante es mi carrera. Sabes, disfrutemos el momento".(BESO) Oh, when you post a transcription, it's so much easier for me to translate! Thanks - Flaco: ... we're alone. - Lalo: Ok, you know what's the problem?... It's that afterwards I feel bad. I get anguished, I get attached, you understand? - Flaco: Look, Lalo, I don't know what our destiny will be. The only thing I know is that there are people... who wait for love all their lives. And sometimes they never find it. I've already found you... and I don't want to lose you. - Lalo: No, it's okay. We've found each other... But what now? Come out?... We've talked a thousand times about it, Flaco. For me, the most important thing is my career. You know what? Let's enjoy the moment. (kiss)
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 12:59:31 GMT -5
I very much approve of a Valenzuela thread Thanks, bdc!
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Post by chrys on Jun 7, 2010 1:45:56 GMT -5
Hi Chrys, I think Patty meant the enormous disappointment, I mean, another big deception for Cristian. Yes, they're making him seem blind or dumb, what it is sometimes too much faith he has in people, and other times confusion, and naive, but beautiful so I'd highly recommend therapy. It always helps. But these writers are being pelotudos really, many times. I see. Well, true, but it'd be better for him to suffer for something that's real rather than for a bunch of lies, I think.
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Post by chrys on Jun 6, 2010 20:53:17 GMT -5
Well, when they finally show Marga as she is to Chiqui, then that problem is solved, right? My problem with his storyline is that he's suffering for a lot of stuff for a long time mostly because he has no clue to the truth in any of those situations. So it's just pain for being blind, really, which is a bit annoying to viewers and make them think he's dumb.
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Post by chrys on Jun 5, 2010 18:19:36 GMT -5
So, apparently the show is promoting Mirtha's killers to be one of the following three: Lily, Lalo or Flaco. It's very funny how they keep putting Flaco and Lalo in every single list of possible murderers and deaths, yet it's never them.
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Post by chrys on Jun 5, 2010 15:36:46 GMT -5
These two boys for the life of them cannot stay away from each other. There was enough eye sex in this episode for a whole year. When Flaco was talking to Anguilla and the other team mate poor Lalo could not take his eye off Flaco. Yeah to the happy news of Nino being alive. Good move show. chrys. Thank you for your wonderful recap lessons. Thank you Eye sex, yes! I'm so gonna use that from now on I am happy the show didn't make the mistake of getting rid of Nino. I hope he keeps on tormenting Marga. I don't think that he will touch our boys. He gets too much pleasure commenting about them. That's exactly what I was gonna say! Nino is a fan - he won't harm his source of amusement (and money)
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Post by chrys on Jun 5, 2010 2:58:09 GMT -5
bdc that's true. I thought she meant something in the preview or that thing you posted on spoilers. Never imagined they hadn't aired a few scenes where I was watching
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Post by chrys on Jun 5, 2010 2:56:27 GMT -5
evil as always BUT for once with his hair down and casual clothes, hoody jacket and sneackers. I like these new Nino and Flaco I like them very much too ;D Now my happiness is complete. This is so good news. About the new Nino, I do think this is a first for casual clothes (and very much approved) but I saw him with his hair down a few times, usually during, just before or after sex Looks great on him. Thank you so much bdc for bringing this scene to my attention
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