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Post by joanna on May 31, 2010 11:28:01 GMT -5
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Post by sylstyle on May 31, 2010 12:13:29 GMT -5
Ok did we attend to the same party on thursday OK there was a Chribecca kiss, but I don't remember a smiling Olli especially with Rob lol at the dream ... can we have the same from Chris with Andi, David, Rob .... ;D ;D ;D ;D so today it was all about Vertrauen well Olli should read voracious he won't have anymore doubts Sylvain
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Post by Nitty on May 31, 2010 12:17:34 GMT -5
Yay for holidays! First time in months that I've been home to watch VL around the same time as everyone else! After seeing the preview of Olli's dream, I thought it was gonna be dorky, but I was pleasantly surprised. The dream was still pretty cheesy, but the stuff that followed it was great. I thought the scenes where Christian and Olli had their talk were very well put together and acted. I was almost tearing up. Happy Memorial day, people!
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Post by lyddy3 on May 31, 2010 12:29:41 GMT -5
Wow, I bet Thore had fun filming that scene...
I can't understand what they were saying properly but the acting was good, very intense. I like it when they actually talk, rather than just pretend that their problems have gone away, although the conversation hardly went well from what I can see.
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Post by jordle on May 31, 2010 12:30:35 GMT -5
I just watched it in German. Looks like a great episode. I'm sure it will be even better when I can understand what they're saying. They both looked so sad. I hate when Olli is sad cause Jo does it so well and it kills me!
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Post by joanna on May 31, 2010 12:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by MercuryMay on May 31, 2010 12:36:14 GMT -5
Today´s recap: At the apartment:Olli enters the apartment and sees Christian on the couch with Rebecca, Nico and Miriam crawling all over him. Christian asks Nico why they ever split up, they were such a pretty couple. They kiss. Olli can´t believe his eyes. "But fortunately there are other beautiful woman", Christian says, looking at Rebecca. He shares a grape with her.… Olli clears his throat, Christian looks up to him, asking "Olli, what are you doing here?" Olli wakes up, wet through with perspiration, and realizes it was just a nightmare dream. Christian´s standing right in front of him, he didn´t expect Olli to be there because of the trade fair he was supposed to be at. Olli returned about an hour ago. Christian tells him that he´s been thinking. That kiss with Rebecca was totally stupid and didn´t mean anything. He was just totally stressed out because of Robert. Olli wants to know why he was stressed out this time again? Christian replies that it was because Robert hit on Olli again. Olli tells him they only worked together, nothing else. Christian says that Robert probably sees that differently. Olli yells that it doesn’t matter how Rob sees it as long as Olli doesn´t. "What´s that supposed to mean?", inquires Christian. "That I didn´t betray your trust", answers Olli. Christian: "Oh, and I yours, or what? That kiss was a joke!". "I laughed my ass off", Olli replies. Christian said he´s sorry, what else does Olli want? Olli: "Yeah well, then everything´s alright again". Christian: "No, it´s not alright again. It would be if Olli would just cool down!". Christian leaves. Castle kitchen:Christian´s in the castle kitchen. Mrs. Linse brings him food but he´s not hungry. Nico arrives and he gives her his lunch. She wants to know if something´s wrong. Christians says everything´s fine. She assumes that he and Olli are arguing. Christian asks her if she knows about the kiss. She doesn´t and Christian explains what happened, that he gave Rebecca a little kiss out of spite because Robert bugged him so much, now Olli´s freaking out. At NoLimits:Olli wants to know what Miriam thinks about the kiss. She assumes that it really just was tit-for-tat. Olli reminds her that Christian has kissed her as well. " That really was just a little "Küsschen"", she says. "Nevertheless, maybe he really is back into women". "Nonsense!" counters Miriam, she really doesn´t believe that. Rob arrives and wants to know if Olli wants to see the pictures of the party. Olli isn´t really sure about that. Castle kitchen: Christian shows Nico the pictures of the party to show her that Rob definitely is interested in Rob and that the kiss with Rebecca really was nothing. From the pictures Nico also gets the impression that Rob´s into Olli. It all looks pretty harmless, she says, until she finds the pictures where Christian is about to kiss Rebecca. She remarks that for it only being a little kiss he surely seems to be into it. Christian gets a little closer to the laptop to look at the picture. At NoLimits.Rob and Olli are looking at the same pictures. Translation taken from the sneak-peek thread. Dankeschön, Lugia!Rob: It really was super! Olli: Hmm. Rob: Hey, everyone had a super cool time! Olli: Especially one. Rob: He didn't behave completely correctly, huh? I don't get it, man. He has such a great boyfriend! Or is he secretly more into women, after all? Well, if you ask me... Olli: Is there anything else we need to sort out? Rob: Nope. Olli: Good! Castle kitchen:Christian wasn´t aware that it… (Nico: ) - was that passionate? - (Christian: ) seemed like it was passionate…Shit! That was not what he wanted. At the apartment:Olli sits on the couch when Christian enters. Olli ísn´t working because he has a headache. Christian tells Olli that he saw the pictures of the party. Does he like them, Olli wants to know. "No!" And Christian really wasn´t aware it looked like that. He´s sorry. Olli says "Okay". "Okay? What does that mean?" Christian wants to know. Olli asks Christian if he´s into women again - because that was not the first time. He wants Christian to give him an honest answer. At the apartment:"I´m into you and nobody else", says Christian. "Then why did you kiss Rebecca, two times already, and Miriam, too?". Christian doesn´t know, Olli just has to believe him. Olli says, he doesn´t understand him. Ever since he´s working with Rob everything´s messy. Christian says, that´s because Rob provokes him all the time and because he´s jealous. Because he loves Olli. Olli says he already told him that Rob doesn´t stand a chance. He´s an important business partner, nothing else. Christian replies: "I can´t to anything about my feelings." At the apartment:Olli says: "We´re arguing about this all the time" - "And now?", Christian asks. Olli just wants to trust Christian again, so does Christian. Olli: "But that obviously doesn´t work anymore, with the trust. So... does this make any sense anymore?"
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Post by jordle on May 31, 2010 12:46:56 GMT -5
Thank you so much for the recap mercurymay.
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Post by FloMay on May 31, 2010 12:47:56 GMT -5
Thank you Mercurymay, you're a star!!!! And such a brilliantly fast one, I was DYING to find out what they said, it was so intense I really hope Christian will break out of Mr. laconic-unable to express his feelings-mode and really talk to Olli tomorrow! Bitte!!
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Post by sio127 on May 31, 2010 12:48:07 GMT -5
MM...I would get down and lick your boots for you....as a thank you you understand!!! However I think some people would get a little jealous!
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Post by luckycharm on May 31, 2010 12:50:10 GMT -5
Thank you mercurymay, the anticipation was killing me - first episode in a whilllllee, where they actually seemed to make an effort at "talking" and I was feeling anxious not understanding. You rock!
Joanna, punctual as always, can't wait for the caps. Jo pulle doff some awesome expressions of woe today.
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Post by bel7003 on May 31, 2010 12:55:08 GMT -5
Olli broke my heart, today. Again. Jo is such a great actor, I feel like crying. And now that I've read Mercurymay's translation, I So worried!I don't know if I'll have the courage to watch tomorrow's episode. By the way, thanks Joanna and Mercurymay for all your efforts. You're absolutely wonderful.
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Post by thunderkat on May 31, 2010 12:55:54 GMT -5
MM...I would get down and lick your boots for you....as a thank you you understand!!! However I think some people would get a little jealous! **obsessively clutches MercuryMay's boots to her chest and GLARES, Christian-like, at Sio** Watch it lady! ;D und Danke Mercury!! Yep, luckycharm, Jo with his heartbroken sniffly expressions and Thore with his bemused contrite expressions. swooning hard core over here.
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Post by Zam on May 31, 2010 13:01:47 GMT -5
Good scenes with the boys.
Anyone else LOL @ the bedroom scene between Ansgar and Tanja? "Ansgar!" "Liebling!"
The Andi/Tristan scenes are becoming unbearable to watch. I found myself hitting the mute button on the Mediathek player or fast-forwarding to the next Chrolli scene.
Thanks everyone for the vids and caps and recaps and subs!
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Post by sio127 on May 31, 2010 13:02:09 GMT -5
^ don't worry I'll catch you T-Kat!! ::::steps to the side and watches her plummet to the ground::::: oops I missed....... I'm sure we can share the boots.....they are thigh high ones after all. Jo was amazing today...his expressions are amazing.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 31, 2010 13:03:35 GMT -5
Thanks mercurymay. Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: Just let me explain to you how that kiss came to happen. [...] We didn't... We didn't do a lot together these last few weeks. We were both so busy with our own stuff and then suddenly there's someone who's paying me attention... Olli: (to Andi) Rob just gets me. ... whoops. I think I've got the wrong dialogue for Olli there.... *fumes* Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: (to Christian) I'm not into Rob, not at all. I'm into you and only you. So, when Olli says it, Christian is just supposed to take it as gospel ( ). But when Christian says it.... And throughout this whole "Chribecca" hysteria we've seen Christian completely oblivious to her feelings (I think because he only sees Olli... ONLY) and WE'VE been commenting on it. Olli, however, HAS noticed Rob's interest, even got assaulted by him and had to suffer through his naked gyrations. And still, he smiles and laughs and keeps secrets with Rob... But yeah, Olli, you should be worried about Christian's devotion. Gotta say, though, it's a nice play. Nice touch.
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Post by bel7003 on May 31, 2010 13:09:46 GMT -5
Jmm, you're so right!
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Post by luckycharm on May 31, 2010 13:10:21 GMT -5
Is it wrong that I kind of want to see Oliver with someone else? That I am kind of hoping he follows through, and breaks up with Christian?
I think it would be really interesting to see Olli in a relationship with a woman. And Christian in a relationship with another man. Jus' sayin'.
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Post by mitsaso on May 31, 2010 13:11:03 GMT -5
Is it wrong that I kind of want to see Oliver with someone else? That I am kind of hoping he follows through, and breaks up with Christian? I think it would be really interesting to see Olli in a relationship with a woman. And Christian in a relationship with another man. Jus' sayin'. as long as that another man is Andi or Philip, I'm all for it!!! ;D NO, FEILER!!! TRISTAN/CHRISTIAN WILL NOT DO!!! Thanks mercurymay. Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: Just let me explain to you how that kiss came to happen. [...] We didn't... We didn't do a lot together these last few weeks. We were both so busy with our own stuff and then suddenly there's someone who's paying me attention... Olli: (to Andi) Rob just gets me. ... whoops. I think I've got the wrong dialogue for Olli there.... *fumes* Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: (to Christian) I'm not into Rob, not at all. I'm into you and only you. So, when Olli says it, Christian is just supposed to take it as gospel ( ). But when Christian says it.... And throughout this whole "Chribecca" hysteria we've seen Christian completely oblivious to her feelings (I think because he only sees Olli... ONLY) and WE'VE been commenting on it. Olli, however, HAS noticed Rob's interest, even got assaulted by him and had to suffer through his naked gyrations. And still, he smiles and laughs and keeps secrets with Rob... But yeah, Olli, you should be worried about Christian's devotion. Gotta say, though, it's a nice play. Nice touch. well said, chief! ;D What DOES worry me though is that the emphasis on Olli's fears is greater than I expected... he's afraid of Christian turning back straight, Nico mentions that his joking kiss looks too passionate, even Christian himself "doesnt know" why he kissed Rebecca twice...! It kinda reminds me of that fabled Coco/Christian convo... "Are you ghey, Christian?!?!?" "NO!!!!" And we all know how THAT turned out. ;D Are the writers just killing time with this silly plot, or is Christian in denial about his latent heterosexuality... that boy, such a drama queen, he has to be in denial even for the simplest things!!! ;D ;D ;D It was your daily lovely post by Bitchaso, Mitsaso's evil twin who worships Chribecca.
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Post by thunderkat on May 31, 2010 13:14:13 GMT -5
Thanks mercurymay. Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: Just let me explain to you how that kiss came to happen. [...] We didn't... We didn't do a lot together these last few weeks. We were both so busy with our own stuff and then suddenly there's someone who's paying me attention... Olli: (to Andi) Rob just gets me. ... whoops. I think I've got the wrong dialogue for Olli there.... *fumes* Christian: I'm into you and nobody else. Olli: (to Christian) I'm not into Rob, not at all. I'm into you and only you. So, when Olli says it, Christian is just supposed to take it as gospel ( ). But when Christian says it.... And throughout this whole "Chribecca" hysteria we've seen Christian completely oblivious to her feelings (I think because he only sees Olli... ONLY) and WE'VE been commenting on it. Olli, however, HAS noticed Rob's interest, even got assaulted by him and had to suffer through his naked gyrations. And still, he smiles and laughs and keeps secrets with Rob... But yeah, Olli, you should be worried about Christian's devotion. Gotta say, though, it's a nice play. Nice touch. Oh such cruelty Justamannsman... were you not moved to pity by the expression on olli's face? This fear about christian's devotion isn't a play and it's not unfounded. Olli is truly scared here, and i think this ep shows that they're both equally fearful and equally doubtful of the solidity of their relationship and have true doubts about eachother's commitment. These doubts are reasonable from both sides, and truly I dont think they arise just from the R.1 and R.2 confrontations, but from Olli's reduced attention and time to Christian and Christian's increased attention to his new profession and his lack of tolerance for dealing with NL. R.1 and R.2 are just the sprinkles on the crap sunday. <-- ick. Given BOTH of their behaviors, they are BOTH justified in being worried, and yeah, some may think Olli has more cause while others may think Christian has more cause, but the one bright spot in this is that both men are pretty damn sure about how THEY feel, and once they come to that understanding together, they'll be beautiful again. ...and i can...ahem.. comfort rob.... repeatedly ... as long as he wants... come to think of it Miriam looked a little sad to day too. . *crooks finger beckoningly* luckycharm No it is not wrong, but I think Olli would be better suited to a polyamorous relationship, and since Christian loves him so much, I'm sure he could convince his young Mann to go along with it. Oh... Christian would fight it at first . . . but the benefits would soon outweigh the negatives. Besides, a wise man once said the good of the many outweighs the good of the few... or the one. *granted that was shortly before he stepped into a matter/anti matter reactor and re-booted it with his bare hands... but I digress... my dork is showing...*
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Post by sio127 on May 31, 2010 13:15:01 GMT -5
Sylvain look!! Mitsaso ALSO has an evil twin....it's not just me...... lucky....yes it's wrong...now go wash your mouth out with soap.....(or your keyboard?)
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Post by lyddy3 on May 31, 2010 13:17:54 GMT -5
Is it wrong that I kind of want to see Oliver with someone else? That I am kind of hoping he follows through, and breaks up with Christian? I think it would be really interesting to see Olli in a relationship with a woman. And Christian in a relationship with another man. Jus' sayin'. I don't like the idea of Olli with a woman, after Christian, i just don't buy it somehow. On the other hand, Christian and another man...? I read that 'jus' sayin' as Justus, and I'm not going to lie, I was intrigued...
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Post by sio127 on May 31, 2010 13:23:51 GMT -5
Besides, a wise man once said the good of the many outweighs the good of the few... or the one. *granted that was shortly before he stepped into a matter/anti matter reactor and re-booted it with his bare hands... but I digress... my dork is showing...* ooh...he was so brave then.....come back David...all is forgiven
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Post by SF on May 31, 2010 13:24:27 GMT -5
to be fair their relationship has become a disaster. i can't see why they're sticking with it. they're both so miserable all the time they're together and they both seem much happier with other people in the different directions their lives are heading in. it's like a three legged, rabid dog. i really want someone to come along with a shotgun and do the decent thing and just put them out their abject, infectious misery. i don't think they will ever manage to be as happy as they were - not after this. i don't want them to go back. but i don't want them to be such a shell of original chrolli anymore either. only alternative is a break up. plus i don't think the actors onscreen chemistry is all that strong anymore either. the scene today was a bit flat and void. even though i was impressed with jo (i always am when olli's on edge or near breaking point) - i just didn't feel the connection or the underlying love from either of them today. and it seemed to be more than just the story, maybe the actors themselves not having a dynamic that works as effortlessly as before. and it made me wonder, if they were a regular straight couple, would they just not have broken up by now? has the fact that christian has changed his whole perspective and lifestyle to be with olli, and together they have endured so much to be together, made them cling to the relationship more than they should? i don't know. i just want them done. finished and over. i want them both to have new stories. men, women whatever. just real recognisable action for both of them. and maybe in the very far flung future, if things change drastically - they could get back together. but not even that is an essential for me anymore. i'm just sad because i used to love them so much together. but it seems like the most respectful future for these two characters. the only way to maintain them is separately.
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Post by sio127 on May 31, 2010 13:31:50 GMT -5
interesting post soapfan...I must admit I DO NOT want them to split up...however I do "think" I agree with you about todays episode.....I felt that Olli was more invested than Christian was...he, in my opiniom, was at breaking point when talking where as Christian didn't really show anything. However they still have great chemistry in a lot of scenes......maybe the direction was slightly off..... infact a good friend has just reminded me of the picnic episode and the way that Christian just looked at Olli....the love was so obvious.
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