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Post by joanna on Mar 22, 2010 12:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by chrollifan211 on Mar 22, 2010 12:30:17 GMT -5
Thank you for all your hard work JoAnna
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Post by lugia on Mar 22, 2010 12:32:37 GMT -5
About today's ep:
I have to admit that the episode was pretty disturbing. The Nathalie stuff felt almost worse than in spoilers.
But painting Ollian in black and white like that was creepy, too. For a moment, the manipulation actually worked on me and I saw Olli as a cowardly cheat and Christian as a pour soul that was trying hard to trust him, but beginning to get his doubts and a sinking feeling.
Until he basically put a gun to Olli's head and indirectly made him decide between work and love. That was creepy "Jens" again, wanting Lydia to give up her blog and Sebastian.
But that writing was not pretty. It felt like Olli got completely abused. When he said "dude, it was only a goodbye kiss and not even on the lips" (refering to Rob's new provocation) that was completely over the top. It felt like he really cheated and then lied about it. He even made Christian apologize!
I just can't believe they're writing it that clearly. Are they really sacrificing Olli's character for Chribecca? I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but all these little lines of dialogue that weren't that apparent from spoilers just hurt like hell.
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Post by Sonnenschein on Mar 22, 2010 12:34:32 GMT -5
repost from the GD Today's fun Scene 1: No Limits Olli is preparing the No Limits when Christian enters still searching for his missing boyfriend. Christian plays 20 questions with Olli. Where was he? Why hadn't he called? (Empty battery) Why wasn't he home for breakfast? (well he and Rob had a hangover one downstairs) ... Christian can tell there is more to this story so he continues: "What does he want from you?!" "Well, he kinda likes me." "Yeah, I kinda noticed that!" "Christian, you can trust me! ... And now I need to get back to work." Scene 2: No Limits Christian is waiting for Olli to return. Arms crossed in front of his chest. Fuming. What happened between you and Robert? NOTHING! exclaims Olli. Well, how do you know that he likes you then??? Erm, it's kinda obvious. After a few seconds of reconsideration Christian doesn't buy it. He made a pass at Olli, right?!? Maybe, a little. But Olli told him off, right?!? Of course! Olli loves Christian. It's the real deal for him. No doubt about that. Well Olli should tell this his precious Robert! He did! He was very clear about that. Maybe Olli should put some distance between himself and Rob! But he can't do that. Christian knows that. It's about the No Limits. Nope, at this point it's about their relationship! states Christian and leaves. Scene 3: flatshare A fuming Christian enters the flatshare and turns on the volume. David asks him whats wrong. Well nothing! His boyfriend was made a pass at. But other than that, life is peachy! Switch to No Limits Rob enters the NL in search of his filofax. Olli gives it to him. Rob asks if they are cool. Olli hesitantely agrees. When Rob is gone he catches Miriam glaring at him! Erm. He gets that she knows something. Esp. when she tells him that Christian and himself are so good together. Switch back "You're not honestely questioning Olli's commitment to you?" And Christian is confused: "No! But they did have breakfast together! But Olli loves me. He would never betray me." Says but doesn't quite believe Christian. Scene 4: No Limits Christian sees right through Miriam when she doesn't want to tell him where exactly Olli is. Of course Rob is there with him. And Christian is just in time to hear Rob stating that himself and Olli are a match made in heaven (dream team) and to witness a hug and a peck on the cheek. Jealous!Christian up front! He pushes Rob back into the couch. Olli looks stunned. Scene 5: No Limits Rob is hurt! Nah it's nothing more than scratch! Olli thinks an apology is in order. Hello! Rob kisses Olli and Christian shall apologize? It was only a peck, no real kiss! Okay, maybe Christian was "drübber". He should tell that somebody else. So Christian apologizes to Rob. Through clenched teeth. Olli asks if he should bring Rob home. But Rob disagrees, Olli's boyfriend might take offense. So he says goodbye. And murmers to Christian on his way out "It's a great guy you got there" "And you should stay away from him" In the end Christian and Olli are staring at each other. LOVE ME SOME GOOD DRAMA
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Post by Sonnenschein on Mar 22, 2010 12:41:03 GMT -5
But painting Ollian in black and white like that was creepy, too. For a moment, the manipulation actually worked on me and I saw Olli as a cowardly cheat and Christian as a pour soul that was trying hard to trust him, but beginning to get his doubts and a sinking feeling. Until he basically put a gun to Olli's head and indirectly made him decide between work and love. ... But that writing was not pretty. It felt like Olli got completely abused. When he said "dude, it was only a goodbye kiss and not even on the lips" (refering to Rob's new provocation) that was completely over the top. It felt like he really cheated and then lied about it. He even made Christian apologize! I disliked both of them. Christian emotionally blackmailing Olli. Olli not being honest. But I love the resulting drama.
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Post by mona on Mar 22, 2010 12:45:55 GMT -5
But that writing was not pretty. It felt like Olli got completely abused. When he said "dude, it was only a goodbye kiss and not even on the lips" (refering to Rob's new provocation) that was completely over the top. It felt like he really cheated and then lied about it. He even made Christian apologize! They're pretty good at showing how Olli wants this NL thing and I wish they would finally give a fake explanation why he needs that so badly. I think he only "protects" Rob like this because of work and normally he would have told Christian and agreed but Rob can really do what he wants with him (exactly the "arschkriechen" he didn't like with the critic) I disliked Miriam today. He should fire her. Why that look? It's his relationship, he made clear that he didn't want that kiss, she doesn't even know if he told Christian and what's going on either and it's not like she doesn't know how Christian likes to kiss random people at NL. But I love the Rob vs. Christian dynamic. I actually thought he wouldn't even apologize but tell him he would do a lot more if he isn't careful. I didn't get a 100% bad Olli feeling but they should explain his actions more. It's really more that he needs to hold Rob but he wasn't really involved in "cheating". The kiss on the cheek was almost the same, he's very passive in this. Nathalies dream was cute. Jenny Winkler acted really good in her last scene. I wonder what/how they will show it from now on when it comes to the hospital stuff.
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 22, 2010 12:46:32 GMT -5
This wasn't about cheating. Olli knew that if he told Christian the truth it would be the end of Bob. But he wants the success so fucking much that he decided to play a dangerous game. He even made Christian feel guilty I think I know how this will go on. Christian will mention to Miriam that they cleared it with the kiss and she'll tell him he's really great, she wouldn't be so forgiving if she saw somebody kissing her b/f on lips, or something similar. And then it will be very difficult if impossible for Olli to explain the lies. Sad, sad day for Nathalie, Feiler is a proper sadist But one cannot complain about a lack of drama today.
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Post by sylstyle on Mar 22, 2010 12:56:59 GMT -5
Really loved David et Miriam today ;D, because to me Miriam is more than an employee here, she's a friend Good drama today and God I love Christian as Hulk ;D ;D Sylvain
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Post by bel7003 on Mar 22, 2010 13:21:24 GMT -5
I think NL is not the only reason for Olli accepting Rob's presence and seduction moves. Rob is very attractive and he knows how to insinuate himself to Olli. And he likes it. Not that I think he wants to cheat on Christian. He probably doesn't, but he can't resist the fact that this really hot guy is into him. So he doesn't clearly push him away. Maybe he's kind of fooling himself, too, that it's just about the parties and NL. But deep down he knows there's something more. And that's why he comes across to me as a bit guilty and needs to lie to Chris.
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Post by scarpien on Mar 22, 2010 13:46:27 GMT -5
About today's ep: I have to admit that the episode was pretty disturbing. The Nathalie stuff felt almost worse than in spoilers. But painting Ollian in black and white like that was creepy, too. For a moment, the manipulation actually worked on me and I saw Olli as a cowardly cheat and Christian as a pour soul that was trying hard to trust him, but beginning to get his doubts and a sinking feeling. Until he basically put a gun to Olli's head and indirectly made him decide between work and love. That was creepy "Jens" again, wanting Lydia to give up her blog and Sebastian. But that writing was not pretty. It felt like Olli got completely abused. When he said "dude, it was only a goodbye kiss and not even on the lips" (refering to Rob's new provocation) that was completely over the top. It felt like he really cheated and then lied about it. He even made Christian apologize! I just can't believe they're writing it that clearly. Are they really sacrificing Olli's character for Chribecca? I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but all these little lines of dialogue that weren't that apparent from spoilers just hurt like hell. I know right. With these writers the ends justify the means. So whoever needs to be sacrificed will be. We all know Olli tells Christian everything and it's usually Christian who withholds info., however, now it's a total role reversal. As for Nathalie's little dream, I took a lil comfort that Chrolli was fully present and happy in it. So maybe there is hope for them after the storm. But I gather that her baby is dead now or something, based on the doctor apologizing? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by mona on Mar 22, 2010 13:52:20 GMT -5
The dream was really a bit crazy because Nathalie has nothing to with them and even the NL didn't really make it clear why they decided for that dream scenario. I kept waiting (because of Ollis general role right now) that he would turn creepy, like he doesn't give brithday cakes to babys/kids that don't have a birthday.
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Post by kes on Mar 22, 2010 13:59:46 GMT -5
The dream was really a bit crazy because Nathalie has nothing to with them and even the NL didn't really make it clear why they decided for that dream scenario. I kept waiting (because of Ollis general role right now) that he would turn creepy, like he doesn't give brithday cakes to babys/kids that don't have a birthday. Sadly, I think this was meant to be foreshadowing: the baby is dead; Christian and Olli's relationship is dead -- for now. However, my hope is that Nathalie finds out she is pregnant again -- and has a boy named Ben. That would be a sweet reversal.
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Post by mona on Mar 22, 2010 14:04:53 GMT -5
The dream was really a bit crazy because Nathalie has nothing to with them and even the NL didn't really make it clear why they decided for that dream scenario. I kept waiting (because of Ollis general role right now) that he would turn creepy, like he doesn't give brithday cakes to babys/kids that don't have a birthday. Sadly, I think this was meant to be foreshadowing: the baby is dead; Christian and Olli's relationship is dead -- for now. Interesting thought. I don't believe that they really take that much effort into the meaning of that scene. Or I don't want to take everything as a hint. But in a way it's true if they meant the situation now and not really the future. That Olli and Christian being sweet also is not happening now. But it's also then how it should be maybe in the future.
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Post by scarpien on Mar 22, 2010 14:10:29 GMT -5
The dream was really a bit crazy because Nathalie has nothing to with them and even the NL didn't really make it clear why they decided for that dream scenario. I kept waiting (because of Ollis general role right now) that he would turn creepy, like he doesn't give brithday cakes to babys/kids that don't have a birthday. Sadly, I think this was meant to be foreshadowing: the baby is dead; Christian and Olli's relationship is dead -- for now.However, my hope is that Nathalie finds out she is pregnant again -- and has a boy named Ben. That would be a sweet reversal. Kes, I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say it. I'm hoping the writers are just torturing us, yet again, and will not harm Chrolli in any way.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Mar 22, 2010 14:12:59 GMT -5
So Christian went psycho on Rob...but that's ok, cuz Olli made sure poor robby-bear was ok. God, Olli, seriously? Pick one; Rob or Christian. Get your shit together. In case ya'll haven't noticed, Olli pissed me off today. Its almost like he doesnt even give a damn about his relationship with Christian while Christian is beating himself up over it. Well, on a lighter note, David and Miriam were great today, trying to remind the boys that they're a great couple and that they love each other. I just wish Olli would ditch Rob for good, he's a pain in the ass.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Mar 22, 2010 14:19:14 GMT -5
**fumes**
He made him apologize? And Christian did it?
**lights cigarette off forehead**
Seems like Olli's transformation of Christian, from boxing champion to boneless cuckold, is nearly complete.
Ain't love grand.
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Post by scarpien on Mar 22, 2010 14:22:16 GMT -5
So Christian went psycho on Rob...but that's ok, cuz Olli made sure poor robby-bear was ok. God, Olli, seriously? Pick one; Rob or Christian. Get your shit together. In case ya'll haven't noticed, Olli pissed me off today. Its almost like he doesnt even give a damn about his relationship with Christian while Christian is beating himself up over it. Well, on a lighter note, David and Miriam were great today, trying to remind the boys that they're a great couple and that they love each other. I just wish Olli would ditch Rob for good, he's a pain in the ass. Olli wants to be able to have his cake and eat it too. I see nothing wrong about him wanting bigger things for NoLimits but the way he's going about it I don't quite agree with. I justy wish he'd be more firm with Rob. He seem to think that if he pisses Rob off then Rob won't work with him anymore. And if that's the case then Rob isn't the kind of person he should align himself with in the first place. Rob doesn't care about anyone but himself and his wants. And for whatever reason now, he wants Olli. So the fact that Olli is with Christian means nothing to Rob. But it makes me wonder how he'd react if he saw someone hitting on his boyfriend. Would it even bother him since he appears to have no regard for boundaries.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Mar 22, 2010 14:27:24 GMT -5
agreed, Scarpien, I dont have a problem with Olli wanting to make No Limits something big either! but ur right, he must be more firm with Rob. I was waiting for Olli to start kissing Rob's feet. It's pathetic. I really hope No Limits doesn't close down, Rob ends up in jail and Olli will be looking for Chrisitan, cuz Christian probably won't be there...how sad...
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Post by joanna on Mar 22, 2010 14:31:58 GMT -5
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Post by scarpien on Mar 22, 2010 14:33:14 GMT -5
**fumes** He made him apologize? And Christian did it? **lights cigarette off forehead** Seems like Olli's transformation of Christian, from boxing champion to boneless cuckold, is nearly complete.Ain't love grand. LOL@Justamannsman. Surely you're not blaming Olli for Christian not being able to box anymore. Olli may be all that ;D but I seriously don't think he caused Christian's heart condition. ... and DANKE Joanna for the heads up.
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Post by thunderkat on Mar 22, 2010 14:35:14 GMT -5
Well... we could play devil's advocate and argue that Olli's rather...enthusiastic "training" is what pushed Christian's heart over the edge...that boy is insatiable!
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Post by sylstyle on Mar 22, 2010 14:37:11 GMT -5
Well... we could play devil's advocate and argue that Olli's rather...enthusiastic "training" is what pushed Christian's heart over the edge...that boy is insatiable! you were faster ;D ;D I missed one opportunity here ;D too bad ;D ;D Sylvain
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 22, 2010 14:37:31 GMT -5
I think Bob is doing the old Divide et impera, he can manipulate Olli even better that way and there won't be any Christian watching over his shoulder. Although it seems to be a lot of work to turn NL in drug dealing centre
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Post by scarpien on Mar 22, 2010 14:38:10 GMT -5
Well... we could play devil's advocate and argue that Olli's rather...enthusiastic "training" is what pushed Christian's heart over the edge...that boy is insatiable! Yeah Yeah!! You're right. I thought about that too but I don't remember Christian complaining while "undergoing" that vigorous training.
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Post by thunderkat on Mar 22, 2010 14:40:57 GMT -5
mmmmm. I'm SURE he IS.... ;D
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