dalia
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Post by dalia on Jun 23, 2009 2:51:53 GMT -5
Even though I love that Rafe is going to have something more to do (no pun intended) I find it a bit unsettling that he is going to be so easily diverted by Adam coming on to him. I mean, he has reason to suspect Adam set his aunt up, and yet he is just going to forget about her and embark on affair with him?
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Post by davedoty on Jun 23, 2009 12:12:59 GMT -5
So, now I have to ask: what happens on these daily soaps when it gets pre-empted unexpectedly mid-transmision? Does it get reaired? Does the story just go on and no one ever gets to see those conceivably crucial scenes?
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 23, 2009 13:41:38 GMT -5
So, now I have to ask: what happens on these daily soaps when it gets pre-empted unexpectedly mid-transmision? Does it get reaired? Does the story just go on and no one ever gets to see those conceivably crucial scenes? Either online at CBS.com, ABC.com or for those with cable in the USA, SoapNet re-airs same day episodes of OLTL, AMC, Days, GH and Y&R in the evening and marathons of the week's episodes (except for Days) on the weekends. Other shows like ATWT and GL and B&B? Online at CBS.com only (possible youtube for certain storylines)
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Post by davedoty on Jun 23, 2009 21:25:03 GMT -5
Duh! I don't know why I didn't think of online viewing, since I knew they were there. But I guess before the net and SoapNet, people were just SOL?
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Post by pepe1958 on Jun 23, 2009 22:58:10 GMT -5
Yep, before the net and SoapNet, soap viewers were SOL if their shows were interrupted; the most famous example, of course, being CBS News breaking into As the World Turns (broadcast live at the time) on November 22, 1963, to announce that President Kennedy had been shot: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMmq6bz9nC4
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Post by final81 on Jun 24, 2009 1:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by valso on Jun 24, 2009 9:47:23 GMT -5
Thank you for the hot spoiler! Can't wait to see how this scene will play out
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Post by davedoty on Jun 24, 2009 12:08:20 GMT -5
Was the fact that Adam was crying on Ashley's shoulder supposed to make me lose all sympathy for him? Because it did. I could have managed to have sympathy for his situation despite the terrible things he was doing, if it weren't for that extra bit of hypocrisy.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2009 12:22:14 GMT -5
My concern, more than the chemistry between the actors (it's imposible that they have less chemistry that Rafe and old Adam had) it's how they will find a way to tell this story without making Rafe a total dumb.
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dalia
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Post by dalia on Jun 24, 2009 17:18:11 GMT -5
ditto ditto ditto
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2009 17:22:49 GMT -5
Anyone catch the Canadian episode today? They're a day ahead and New-Adam's first episode was today. He hops into bed with Heather. The preview for tommorrow is him stroking Rafe's face and asking if he has "feelings" too.
Bwahahahah! <evil laughter>
I could not care less if this storyline is evil evil evil. As long as it's entertaining. ;D
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Post by floatilla on Jun 24, 2009 18:46:13 GMT -5
Bwahahahah! <evil laughter> I could not care less if this storyline is evil evil evil. As long as it's entertaining. ;D D.I.T.T.O.......... ;D
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Post by floatilla on Jun 24, 2009 19:08:49 GMT -5
Color me naive but I actually bought the crying thing with Ashley. I think that for the first time, the magnitude of his actions really hit home. Will it be short lived?.....prolly.... but for this moment I actually think that it was a genuine emotion....
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Post by justinate on Jun 24, 2009 19:19:33 GMT -5
I gotta admit, I love how Adam is playing everyone like a fiddle. If only they'd left out the baby-killing, I could enjoy this s/l wholeheartedly.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2009 21:08:39 GMT -5
I completely and totally understand people being creeped out and offended by Adam causing Ashley's miscarriage. Seriously, I totally get it. However, it doesn't bother me one bit because, it's not a real baby or a real miscarriage. Nanna and I were discussing something about TV watching in general the other day, and I mentioned that apparently I'm weird. I always watch them as fictional stories. Never once have I said, "Oh, how would I react to that?" or "wow. I could never do that." or "I'd feel awful if someone did that to me!" or whatever. Maybe that's why none of this bothers me. For me it's just a show to entertain me. <shrug>
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2009 5:24:03 GMT -5
I think today Afterelton will do their first liveblog for Y&R
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Post by maya on Jun 25, 2009 7:59:36 GMT -5
In the comments column on AfterElton website someone expressed some concerns about where Adam/Rafe storyline would be going and how would be received by people who are less supportive of gay rights especially if the storyline is only about sex, Anthony answered this: "I'm only going to say that I think folks should not pre-judge the story. It's totally not what it appears to be at face value. Y&R is going to throw in a twist or two that some might find suprising." I guess you can bet he knows more spoilers than the rest of us, so I'm choosing to stay positive and stick to Y&R to see where will they going
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2009 8:21:50 GMT -5
In fact that it's a common critic about the storyline, but the same i said about the praise (wich it's more the anticipation than what the showed till now) i say about the critics. First we saw and hen we judge. My concern it's more about Rafe than about Adam and how people (the audience of Y&R seems pretty conservative, or at least it's my perception from some forums) percieve the storyline. I think they must invest in Rafe a little more time, so we'll know more about him when the main storyline begins, and it'll be easier for the audience empathise with him
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Post by final81 on Jun 25, 2009 8:39:38 GMT -5
Adam/Rafe: Hellbent on clearing Estella's name, Rafe starts to investigate the strange occurrences at the Newman ranch. Adam is confronted by the legal eagle and he is adamant on searching his bedroom. In order to cover his tracks, Adam decides to play both sides of the fence by coming onto him and declaring his feelings. This latest stunt works on Rafe for the time being. After Rafe leaves the ranch he, calls Adam and also confesses to having feeling for him as well which leaves the schemer rocked to the core.
Still blown away by Rafe's admission, Adam invites Heather to the ranch where she notices he's acting a bit unnerved. Adam brushes off her concern and the duo end up making love. Later Heather informs Ashley of her quest to bring Estella to justice. Heather is still clueless about Adam's real persona and she also built a rapport with Ashley since she has been a champion of the relationship she has with Adam. Things start to get hard for Adam to outsmart his family, Heather and Rafe which makes some things will start to unravel.daytimeconfidential.com/2009/06/25/the-young-and-the-restless-spoilers
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Post by justinate on Jun 25, 2009 10:10:14 GMT -5
I completely and totally understand people being creeped out and offended by Adam causing Ashley's miscarriage. Seriously, I totally get it. However, it doesn't bother me one bit because, it's not a real baby or a real miscarriage. Nanna and I were discussing something about TV watching in general the other day, and I mentioned that apparently I'm weird. I always watch them as fictional stories. Never once have I said, "Oh, how would I react to that?" or "wow. I could never do that." or "I'd feel awful if someone did that to me!" or whatever. Maybe that's why none of this bothers me. For me it's just a show to entertain me. <shrug> You are right, of course, that it is a fictional show. I don't think of it in terms of characters being real people, or a real baby being killed. What I meant by the baby-killing spoiling my enjoyment of the show, is that I liked the character of Adam. I wanted him to be a sort of antihero. Even though I still find the gaslighting of Ashley entertaining, the problem is that Adam is no longer a character that I root for. I like having characters to root for. Sadly I no longer find Adam that.
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Post by justinate on Jun 25, 2009 10:11:21 GMT -5
I completely and totally understand people being creeped out and offended by Adam causing Ashley's miscarriage. Seriously, I totally get it. However, it doesn't bother me one bit because, it's not a real baby or a real miscarriage. Nanna and I were discussing something about TV watching in general the other day, and I mentioned that apparently I'm weird. I always watch them as fictional stories. Never once have I said, "Oh, how would I react to that?" or "wow. I could never do that." or "I'd feel awful if someone did that to me!" or whatever. Maybe that's why none of this bothers me. For me it's just a show to entertain me. <shrug> You are right, of course, that it is a fictional show. I don't think of it in terms of characters being real people, or a real baby being killed. What I meant by the baby-killing spoiling my enjoyment of the show, is that I liked the character of Adam. I wanted him to be a sort of antihero. Even though I still find the gaslighting of Ashley entertaining, the problem is that Adam is no longer a character that I root for. I like having characters to root for. Sadly that's no longer the case for me. Hopefully Rafe is smarter than Adam.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 25, 2009 10:13:40 GMT -5
re: Final81's newest spoilers. Hmmm..... maybe it will turn out that Rafe is playing Adam to find proof of Adam's evil deeds.Interesting.... Justinate...completely understand.
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Post by justinate on Jun 25, 2009 11:39:15 GMT -5
Highlight to read a recap of Adam's scenes in today's Canadian episode (Friday in the US), rephrased by me: Adam apologizes to the memory of his late mother for disappointing her. He expresses some remorse for what he's done to Ashley but justifies himself by recounting Victor's supposed ill-treatment of him. Rafe drops by to see him and informs him that he believes his aunt is being set up and that he isn't the only one to suspect Adam as being the real gaslighter (Nikki is the one who put Rafe on Adam's trail). Adam points out that he's blind and bemoans everything he's been through. Rafe tells him if he has nothing to hide he won't mind him looking around Adam's room. To distract Rafe, Adam grabs him and says it hurts that Rafe can think these things about him. He claims to have feelings for Rafe, adding that what they have is special.
Next episode's (Fri in Canada, Mon in US) preview is of Adam on the phone with Rafe who says he reciprocates Adam's feelings.I'm so excited to see this is finally starting up; can't wait to see it play out
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2009 12:06:29 GMT -5
Yanni said in an interview that Rafe is all but a fool, so that spoiler is posibly correct. And i hope so, i don't mind this good guy/bad guy interaction, but i want that Rafe will be more that the classic inocent damsel played by the bad guy. And the fact that Rafe is smart make Adam's game far more interesting
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Post by davedoty on Jun 25, 2009 12:52:49 GMT -5
I enjoyed the FRAK out of the AfterElton Liveblog of today's episode. Snicks is probably my favorite writer on the site, and I hope this means he'll be the regular Y&R liveblogger. He's got a joie de vivre that he brings to everything he does on the site.
I also kind of wish I could have watched the show new with his lack of expectations. I watched it through the lens of repeated "this is Great Television!" comments. I'm going to try to watch it as trashy fun for a while instead of The Show That Promised High Art, and see if I like it more.
I'm supposed to start going to the gym again next week, which would mean no staying up late to watch the shows in real time. I hope that's not a problem for me.
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