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Post by nryabenko on Feb 18, 2010 21:18:08 GMT -5
Hi, I've been thinking about the possibility of VL coming to American. I was wondering if they will do it as a soap opera or a weekly t.v. show.
If they do it as a weekly t.v. show, will it be the same as the German verison or will it be different.
Will they do it like U.S. Queer as Folk (R) or the U.K. verison? If they do the U.S. verison, they should have it on Showtime, they allow a more R version. Showtime showed alot more sex between two men (Brian and Justine) ;D
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Post by stregatta on Feb 18, 2010 21:33:41 GMT -5
Oops Nryabenko...who knew?! Until now the news is still quite fresh, we don't know if it really is going to be out in the end, or what will exactly be as a format...Probably like Sex&theCity 1 ep. x week?! Anyways, it's too soon I guess to speculate, we'll wait & see, Ciao *_*
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Post by nryabenko on Feb 18, 2010 21:46:59 GMT -5
Oops Nryabenko...who knew?! Until now the news is still quite fresh, we don't know if it really is going to be out in the end, or what will exactly be as a format...Probably like Sex&theCity 1 ep. x week?! Anyways, it's too soon I guess to speculate, we'll wait & see, Ciao *_* I think it should be once a week and on Showtime. They allow much more mature context.
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Post by stregatta on Feb 18, 2010 22:02:16 GMT -5
Yep...but it depends which kind of show they actually want to perform: the original is not "so" explicit, so for real I've no idea, Americans most of the times have done more romantic shows than others (if even a bare-breast is rarely shown on telly...); on the other hand, if gays'plays are most of the times seen as more outrageous, & suitable for cable.tv yes, it could happen what you say. ;-)
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Post by nryabenko on Feb 19, 2010 10:04:52 GMT -5
on the other hand, if gays'plays are most of the times seen as more outrageous, & suitable for cable.tv yes, it could happen what you say. ;-) Not really, since Gale Harold who played Brian Kinney is straight in real life, but played a gay character with such realism that you didn't know he was straight . He was self assured, didn't take crap from anyone and gave good as he got. I loved his line: "If I'm not sucking your c(*&(*&, then why shouldn't care if I'm gay." That showed he didn't care what anyone thought of him, except his friends, who were also his family; most importantly Justin his lover. Hal Sparks who played Michael ? is straight too, he played a gay character, who was very believable. Especially the sex scenes with Robert Gant, who played Ben (who's gay in real life)
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Post by thunderkat on Feb 19, 2010 14:37:15 GMT -5
Stregatta Chad Michael murray. that's it. you NAILED it! there's our Christian.
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Post by stregatta on Feb 20, 2010 10:10:26 GMT -5
Ok, let's play the possibilities' game! Mumble, mumble...I've re-thought the casting for the new VL-version & I've come up with this crazy idea (waiting for the real ones, I'm really curious! Besides I think that they will cast not famous people): OLLI_Luca Argentero (Italian actor, he had also previously played a gay-character in "Saturno contro"/ Against Saturn & he's an handsome "model" too...Mmmhhh yes, for under-pants "Intimissimi" brand...Pretty hot! ;-P); Colin Morgan,the young star of the Brit "Merlin" series (already loved by gays too ;-)) Gaél Garcìa Bernal ("La Mala Educaciòn") CHRISTIAN_Hayden Christensen ("StarWars","Jumper"...Hot, brooding & slightly dark...); Chad M. Murray ("One Tree Hill" & co.) [Thanks thunderkat! ;-P)] Robert Pattinson (Vampire much? Yep, but also sensitive gay in "Little Ashes" ;-*) Leonardo di Caprio?! ;-P) (German Bill Kaulitz from infamous Tokio Hotel band as OLLI & Canadian singer Garou as CHRIS?! No, that's really sci-fi...0_0) GREGOR_alias the macho with a heart of gold...Patrick Dempsey ("Grey's Anatomy"); Robert Downey Jnr.("Ironman") could be perfect too; Benicio Del Toro ("Wolfman"); (Sylver Stallone"Rambo"?!? LOL ;-D) OLIVIA_Rachel Bilson ("The OC"); Sofia Bush ("One Tree Hill");...Basically all the bitchy-girls around, brunette with a swagger & attitude, but not real evil... JUDITH_The red-head actress, lesbo-witch in "Buffy", do you remember?! Or someone like Alyssa Milano, from "Charmed"... To end with Hilary Duff or others "Disney's club-style" (like that 1 of Hanna Montana...I guess,'cause I don't love the genre) AUNT CHARLIE_Bette Middler...Diane Keaton...Those kind of nice ladies, ya'know! ROB_John Malcovich!! (someone even made a film about being him...Sux villain-chic!) Michael Rosenbaum (unforgattable sexy-as-hell Lex Luthor from "Smallville") Ed Westwick (wicked & funny Chuck from "Gossip Girl") REBECCA_CHER!!! It would be so much fun with a singer like her, future maitresse of Burlesque-film?! (or however she remeinds me a little of Penélope Cruz...Obviously not for the acting-skills!!) ^_^
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Post by mitsaso on Feb 20, 2010 10:30:03 GMT -5
Ok, let's play the possibilities' game! Mumble, mumble...I've re-thought the casting for the new VL-version & I've come up with this crazy idea (waiting for the real ones, I'm really curious! Besides I think that they will cast not famous people): OLLI_Luca Argentero (Italian actor, he had also previously played a gay-character in "Saturno contro"/ Against Saturn & he's an handsome "model" too...Mmmhhh yes, for under-pants "Intimissimi" brand...Pretty hot! ;-P); Colin Morgan,the young star of the Brit "Merlin" series (already loved by gays too ;-)) Gaél Garcìa Bernal ("La Mala Educaciòn") CHRISTIAN_Hayden Christensen ("StarWars","Jumper"...Hot, brooding & slightly dark...); Chad M. Murray ("One Tree Hill" & co.) [Thanks thunderkat! ;-P)] Robert Pattinson (Vampire much? Yep, but also sensitive gay in "Little Ashes" ;-*) Leonardo di Caprio?! ;-P) (German Bill Kaulitz from infamous Tokio Hotel band as OLLI & Canadian singer Garou as CHRIS?! No, that's really sci-fi...0_0) GREGOR_alias the macho with a heart of gold...Patrick Dempsey ("Grey's Anatomy"); Robert Downey Jnr.("Ironman") could be perfect too; Benicio Del Toro ("Wolfman"); (Sylver Stallone"Rambo"?!? LOL ;-D) OLIVIA_Rachel Bilson ("The OC"); Sofia Bush ("One Tree Hill");...Basically all the bitchy-girls around, brunette with a swagger & attitude, but not real evil... JUDITH_The red-head actress, lesbo-witch in "Buffy", do you remember?! Or someone like Alyssa Milano, from "Charmed"... To end with Hilary Duff or others "Disney's club-style" (like that 1 of Hanna Montana...I guess,'cause I don't love the genre) AUNT CHARLIE_Bette Middler...Diane Keaton...Those kind of nice ladies, ya'know! ROB_John Malcovich!! (someone even made a film about being him...Sux villain-chic!) Michael Rosenbaum (unforgattable sexy-as-hell Lex Luthor from "Smallville") Ed Westwick (wicked & funny Chuck from "Gossip Girl") REBECCA_CHER!!! It would be so much fun with a singer like her, future maitresse of Burlesque-film?! (or however she remeinds me a little of Penélope Cruz...Obviously not for the acting-skills!!) ^_^ Carissima, I think most of your choices are too famous to be in an HBO series... (meaning that they are still successful movie stars and don't have to do TV) I liked Luca Argentero though, didn't he start with an italian reality show? I liked his nude calendar And I like your earlier choice, Raoul Bova, as well. They'll need to give him some make up though to make him look 30-ish like Olli. I want to savagely murder all of your choices for Christian save for Chad M.Murray (who is still pretty but not talented enough). ;D ;D ;D I also thought about casting Cher as Rebecca, but then I remembered that I actually like Cher. So why do such a terrible thing to her?
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Post by mona on Feb 20, 2010 11:05:25 GMT -5
Don't know why exactly but I would choose Ben mckenzie as Christian. There's something is his way to act that reminds of the character Christian has.
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Post by sylstyle on Feb 20, 2010 11:27:32 GMT -5
good choices Stregatta ;D but like said Mitsaso maybe too famous lol at Garou for playing Christian (Lorie & Mimie Mathy won't be happy ;D) although he would be great as Gregor. And Cher as Rebecca ;D ;D awesome ;D I'd rather see someone like Shannen Doherty instead (maybe too old ) and Alyson Hannigan (Willow) as Judith I like it, you're a genious Sylvain
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Post by thunderkat on Feb 20, 2010 17:15:25 GMT -5
good choices Stregatta ;D but like said Mitsaso maybe too famous lol at Garou for playing Christian (Lorie & Mimie Mathy won't be happy ;D) although he would be great as Gregor. And Cher as Rebecca ;D ;D awesome ;D I'd rather see someone like Shannen Doherty instead (maybe too old ) and Alyson Hannigan (Willow) as Judith I like it, you're a genious Sylvain Yep Alyson Hannigan would be a great judith, esp how she is on how i met your mother now, just a ton of fun and so lovable. I dunno about wanting to savagely murder ALL of Stregatta's choices for Christian... I'd really rather just have Robert Pattinson fall in a ditch and go away. But this being america and all, i feel like producers would want to go the diversity route...bum bum bum...could they possibly make Olli...black? asian? Native american? it is washington state after all, that wouldn't be such a stretch... what about a latino Judith? America Ferrera is going to be out of job pretty soon....
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Post by Nitty on Feb 20, 2010 18:25:47 GMT -5
Dude, Portland is in Oregon, not Washington.
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Post by mitsaso on Feb 20, 2010 18:48:42 GMT -5
OMG the GoDT blog got it right!!! Beaver from "Greek" should be US Christian! But their hint about the actors who play Luke and Noah being US Chrolli is beyond redundant. LOL I agree with the diversity factor, thunderkat, it would be a nice touch if US Olli wasn't white. Personally I'd prefer an asian or latino Olli, because if they went for a black Olli they'd end up doing the cliche and typecasting one of the actors from "Noah's Ark". BUT if they cast Shemar Moore instead I'll be forever indebted. ;D ;D ;D Then I'd propose Diana Ross as aunt Charlie. ;D But I'd actually like Adam Rodriguez as Olli. He'll be soon out of a job, too. Okay, okay! New roster, courtesy of Mitsaso. Chrolli are the guys pictured above. Betty White as aunt Charlie! Olivia Wilde as... um... Olivia ;D I'll persist in my choice of Felicia Day as Judith Lady Gaga in a dual guest-starring role as Coco and Pepper! Openly gay actor Cheyenne Jackson can play Gregor, the quinessential str8 hunk ;D Last but not least, Tori Spelling as Rebecca
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Post by thunderkat on Feb 20, 2010 19:17:09 GMT -5
Dude, Portland is in Oregon, not Washington. er.... GEOGRAPHY FAIL!! I'm such a typical right - coaster. It's like the world ceases to exist west of the Mississippi and north of california. es tut mir leid!
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Post by Nitty on Feb 20, 2010 19:36:05 GMT -5
Dude, Portland is in Oregon, not Washington. er.... GEOGRAPHY FAIL!! I'm such a typical right - coaster. It's like the world ceases to exist west of the Mississippi and north of california. es tut mir leid! Kein Problem, silly! Mitsaso - Don't you be mean to Tori! ;D
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Feb 20, 2010 19:48:24 GMT -5
Last but not least, Tori Spelling as Rebecca LOl This would be overkill. I love it! And here I was thinking Khloe or Kim Kardashian. *shakes head*
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Post by stregatta on Feb 20, 2010 20:02:21 GMT -5
Not really, since Gale Harold who played Brian Kinney is straight in real life, but played a gay character with such realism that you didn't know he was straight . He was self assured, didn't take crap from anyone and gave good as he got. I loved his line: "If I'm not sucking your c(*&(*&, then why shouldn't care if I'm gay." That showed he didn't care what anyone thought of him, except his friends, who were also his family; most importantly Justin his lover. Hal Sparks who played Michael ? is straight too, he played a gay character, who was very believable. Especially the sex scenes with Robert Gant, who played Ben (who's gay in real life)[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow dear...That's real poetry!! ...I'm joking, but I understand the meaning of it, even if I know the show/actors only by fame & some pics from it (ehm...not exactly the ones you mentioned!) ;D PS_those actors have been "brave", here so very few of them would have done something like that, 'cause it's still a close-market (perhaps on cable-tv, but honestly until now, nothing similar has been done...I don't know if for society-issues or the fear to be framed in a cliché for future career... : Cheers*
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Post by stregatta on Feb 20, 2010 20:57:56 GMT -5
OMG...I'm cracking up for laughs...You guys are fab!! ^_^ Besides, yes my choices were a bit too famous perhaps, but it was just for fun, persons who came from my memories ...(sometimes from nightmares too?! ;-P) I agree with Mona's choice, well done for others' ideas too: Thunderkat is right, probably being in US it could be that they go for a bunch of different kind of people (races, etc...), & IMO it would be a nice touch to change VL for the better, in a good way.
_Carissimo bellissimo Mitsaso...I'm glad you know well at least the naked-sexy calendar of pretty hot LUCA ARGENTERO!! ;-P) You've good tastes...& you were right: he won our Big Brother(Grande Fratello) show years ago, but wanted to be an actor, so studied, & then surprised all becoming a good sensitive actor (more than Bova, I've to add...): if you've the chance watch "Lezioni di Cioccolata"/Chocolate's lessons, or that film by Turkish (but now almost Italian, living in Rome) director Ferzan Ozpetek (the same of"Le Fate Ignoranti"/The ignorant fairies,"Harem Suaré" or "Il Bagno Turco"/the Turkish bath... Now it's almost out a comedy from him, called"Mine Vaganti"/Wandering mines, with another gay character, played by our famous RICCARDO SCAMARCIO...He's our "Mr Pattinson", beloved by hundreds of screaming girls...But he's in love with the older & great Greek/Italian actress Valeria Golino ;-P)
Regarding Mr Twilight, I swear I've not a crush on him, or a real fan of the series, but more in general of fantasy/sci-fi, so I've seen also that...Anyways, I kinda feel "pity" for him, a sort of Hugh Grant invaded by crazy girls everywhere, pretty shy, that went from nobody-ever-noticed-me (but I remember him from an Harry Potter-film) to absurd out-of-the-roof-stardom...Ok, I know, there're worst things in life! ;-D)
Unfortunately I don't remember many Greek actors, apart from ALEXIS GEORGOULIS...The "George Clooney" of you country?! & Nia Vardalos (as Judith?! ;->) Do you like him too?!
I liked Cher too (she's 1of my daddy's fav too,he used to tell me of her old good times...), such a drama queen with dark hair & so, & I don't know why, something that reminded me of Becca, but Cher stays the best (of course!)
I've enjoyed your great choices, but since you know some of our local stuff,what you would say of a showgirl-icon like RAFFAELLA CARRA' as Charlie?! She's like our "Jackie Collins"!! In an ep. of "Doctor Who", she performed in video, within a space-ship (within inside also "Merlin"actor?!)..LOL!!
....Last but not least, Lady Gaga with a wig could easily play also Saint Peter...So I don't se the problem here!! ;-D)
_Slystyle, merci! We could give to Garou the role of Greg & to friend Céline Dion perhaps the 1 of Judith (but the age doesn't fit) or better Luise's part, with her original darker hair...Chich alors?! Ciao*
PS_Oops...I've discovered by now that I look like that Felicia Day...I don't know her, but the name in my language looks promising "Happy day", mamma mia!! ;-o)
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Post by lugia on Feb 20, 2010 21:48:06 GMT -5
I love Ben Browder, but He's more Andi don't you think? Yikes, I've forever and ever compared Thore to Ben or even MacGyver. Strange. Just like that Farscape parody on Stargate once with Shanks playing Crichton. The gene pool is not what it once was. But I hear you about Andi! Even if this doesn't get picked up, that was quite some publicity the show got in the US this week! Joan Collins and those remake plans! And Ollian have a storyline. I think there might be more hits on Nanna's channel than usual. Totally. Or maybe even Bradley Cooper. Olli is kind of tough to cast. Aw, there's only one Olli! Christian can be replaced. Just kidding. But Jo already sold his calendar overseas. He just needs to do one every year. ;D
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Post by lugia on Feb 20, 2010 21:54:53 GMT -5
But who would have guessed that this little know SOAP with its gay storyline playing over in Germany would grow into this phenomena. It was probably a blessing in disguise that they were in the background and never split up. There's a huge, continuous story about them now that can still gain momentum. The current storyline might be debatable, but as seen with shows like Supernatural, if they have a certain longevity, people will suddenly flock to them. Stargate didn't hit their stride until later, either, when they moved to a bigger cable channel. The original VL just needs to invest a little bit more in them again and gain new viewers instead of driving existing ones away.
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Post by lugia on Feb 20, 2010 22:07:33 GMT -5
on the other hand, if gays'plays are most of the times seen as more outrageous, & suitable for cable.tv yes, it could happen what you say. ;-) It would be cool if it ended up on a more mainstream network and not somewhere obscure or where it could only reach a niche audience. I think Jo once mentioned that he likes Kyle XY, so I vote for Matt Dallas as Olli.
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Post by stregatta on Feb 20, 2010 22:47:57 GMT -5
Uuhh Luigia, you're right!! I remeber some eps of Kyle XY, it was nice...& the actor a good actor for Olli-role, even for his way of acting...He was also in Katy Perry's intense "Thinking of you"song :'-)
PS_Mitsaso, thinking about Mr Argentero, he did also a gay politician in a comedy film:"Diverso da chi?"/Different from whom?
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Post by mitsaso on Feb 21, 2010 6:30:37 GMT -5
OMG...I'm cracking up for laughs...You guys are fab!! ^_^ Besides, yes my choices were a bit too famous perhaps, but it was just for fun, persons who came from my memories ...(sometimes from nightmares too?! ;-P) I agree with Mona's choice, well done for others' ideas too: Thunderkat is right, probably being in US it could be that they go for a bunch of different kind of people (races, etc...), & IMO it would be a nice touch to change VL for the better, in a good way. _Carissimo bellissimo Mitsaso...I'm glad you know well at least the naked-sexy calendar of pretty hot LUCA ARGENTERO!! ;-P) You've good tastes...& you were right: he won our Big Brother(Grande Fratello) show years ago, but wanted to be an actor, so studied, & then surprised all becoming a good sensitive actor (more than Bova, I've to add...): if you've the chance watch "Lezioni di Cioccolata"/Chocolate's lessons, or that film by Turkish (but now almost Italian, living in Rome) director Ferzan Ozpetek (the same of"Le Fate Ignoranti"/The ignorant fairies,"Harem Suaré" or "Il Bagno Turco"/the Turkish bath... Now it's almost out a comedy from him, called"Mine Vaganti"/Wandering mines, with another gay character, played by our famous RICCARDO SCAMARCIO...He's our "Mr Pattinson", beloved by hundreds of screaming girls...But he's in love with the older & great Greek/Italian actress Valeria Golino ;-P) Regarding Mr Twilight, I swear I've not a crush on him, or a real fan of the series, but more in general of fantasy/sci-fi, so I've seen also that...Anyways, I kinda feel "pity" for him, a sort of Hugh Grant invaded by crazy girls everywhere, pretty shy, that went from nobody-ever-noticed-me (but I remember him from an Harry Potter-film) to absurd out-of-the-roof-stardom...Ok, I know, there're worst things in life! ;-D) Unfortunately I don't remember many Greek actors, apart from ALEXIS GEORGOULIS...The "George Clooney" of you country?! & Nia Vardalos (as Judith?! ;->) Do you like him too?! I liked Cher too (she's 1of my daddy's fav too,he used to tell me of her old good times...), such a drama queen with dark hair & so, & I don't know why, something that reminded me of Becca, but Cher stays the best (of course!) I've enjoyed your great choices, but since you know some of our local stuff,what you would say of a showgirl-icon like RAFFAELLA CARRA' as Charlie?! She's like our "Jackie Collins"!! In an ep. of "Doctor Who", she performed in video, within a space-ship (within inside also "Merlin"actor?!)..LOL!! ....Last but not least, Lady Gaga with a wig could easily play also Saint Peter...So I don't se the problem here!! ;-D) _Slystyle, merci! We could give to Garou the role of Greg & to friend Céline Dion perhaps the 1 of Judith (but the age doesn't fit) or better Luise's part, with her original darker hair...Chich alors?! Ciao* PS_Oops...I've discovered by now that I look like that Felicia Day...I don't know her, but the name in my language looks promising "Happy day", mamma mia!! ;-o) Luca Argentero is now a better actor than Raoul? Well, it makes sense to me! It would explain why Raoul's international career hasn't shot up after all those non-italian movies he did! I'm still trying to download "Piccolo Grande Amore", though, and admire his early "acting skills" I actually have nothing against Pattinson, and I liked him in his Harry Potter role (which made him more famous then than what you believe), but with the way he looks lately (like he's on a constant hangover) he'd never convince me as Christian. Alexis Georgoulis is one of our famous hotties, but I don't see him managing anything abroad other than the movie he did with Nia Vardalos... I guess we'll have to wait and see Haha I love Rafaella Carra, I was just listening to "Fatalita" today!!! (and I'm watching Doctor Who these days, haven't caught up to the episode you mention yet). But I liked Heather Parisi more. Whatever happened to her?? My favorite italian singer though, is the one and only... ;D Olli should be singing this to Christian every night.
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Post by sylstyle on Feb 21, 2010 9:31:10 GMT -5
I don't really love Robert Pattison, but as he said recently that he's disgusted by vagina he's perfect for Christian ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by chrollifan211 on Feb 21, 2010 10:57:35 GMT -5
I dont know guys............Thore and Jo has spoiled me as chrolli, Couldn't they take a leave of absense and come to America and do their story for us but with more graphic love scenes???
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