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Post by restenergy on Jun 20, 2008 18:42:12 GMT -5
Sorry Roddieb - but just to put a question on your stairwell theory. In tonight's epi (20/06/08) when we see gregor coming from the stairwell - okay, I realise you're still looking at C&O snogging - but we see a shadow on the wall as gregor appears suggesting there is light of some kind coming from behind him Maybe there is a light in the stairwell? Or a wall sconce on the landing? (Well, obviously it's some sort of studio lighting that the lighting crew set up, but let's pretend for the moment. We're already crazy enough on this thread...)
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Post by mikey on Jun 20, 2008 18:42:23 GMT -5
Sorry Roddieb - but just to put a question on your stairwell theory. In tonight's epi (20/06/08) when we see gregor coming from the stairwell - okay, I realise you're still looking at C&O snogging - but we see a shadow on the wall as gregor appears suggesting there is light of some kind coming from behind him True, sheepie. But I think this is one of those things we have to allow since the actor is entering from "off stage" and there really isn't a stairwell there. Just one of the many things that makes this such a hard exercise: what is actually part of the set, and what is there just to facilitate the actors. That said, they shouldn't have a light there that will cast odd shadows on the set...
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Post by mikey on Jun 21, 2008 16:40:21 GMT -5
I had a brainwave after rewatching the Feb 5 episode. We see Olli standing at the window in the living room and there's a light in the windows beyond, which goes out, and then Olli gets upset. My thought is that this is Christian's room across the way, which leads me to this layout. Why oh why the hallways would be structured like this, I don't know. As someone pointed out it was an old pension, so it was probably converted back to a flat. I'm sure there are plenty of flaws, so pick away!
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Post by restenergy on Jun 21, 2008 17:01:45 GMT -5
Good try. You've broken out of trying to fit it all into a rectangle thing. I personally don't think it can fit that way, anyway. (If it can fit into any floor plan, of course). I think the courtyard thing is very likely, too. One thing I'm quite certain is not correct here is the bathroom placement. The one wall is definitely a place where the roof comes down. That would mean, in your arrangement, that Olli's door would be very short. Can you imagine the six foot plus Olli having to duck down for a door that's only 5 feet tall or less? (On the other hand, maybe that's why he sleeps in Christians room so often. )
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Post by sheepiefarm on Jun 21, 2008 17:10:29 GMT -5
I had a brainwave after rewatching the Feb 5 episode. We see Olli standing at the window in the living room and there's a light in the windows beyond, which goes out, and then Olli gets upset. My thought is that this is Christian's room across the way, which leads me to this layout. Why oh why the hallways would be structured like this, I don't know. As someone pointed out it was an old pension, so it was probably converted back to a flat. I'm sure there are plenty of flaws, so pick away! Hey Mikey - I really like the "out of the box" thinking on this. Although the layout could be possible - in terms of whose room is which - it doesn't. Olli always turns to the right when going to his room via the living room door ( Think Timo night) and Christian always turns to the left - also consider the epi you took it from - when Coco appears and her and Christian return to their room - they turn to the left. The layout is still a possibility though. >>>clap clap clap<<<<< edit - also just realised you can see roof tiles out of Christians window which would mean no courtyard - but still think the layout is a possibility - it's just a question of getting the rooms around it. Gah - this is starting to become an obsession - it's like a bloody Rubik's cube - always hated them but couldn't stop myself from having a go
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Post by aussie54 on Jun 21, 2008 17:14:06 GMT -5
I like the look of your plan, Mikey. Just a couple of doubts. When Christian leaves the living room, he always seems to turn left, presumably to go to his room. Could Christian and Olliver swap rooms? And there's the question of the sky-light/window in the wall behind the shower. That causes all sorts of problems! ETA: Posted before I saw Sheepie's reply, which is also concerned about the position of the boys' rooms.
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Post by mikey on Jun 21, 2008 17:16:50 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. Gah! I thought it was Olli that went left and Christian right. Bleh. And that damned bathroom skylight keeps ruining all our ideas.
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Post by mikey on Jun 22, 2008 18:16:42 GMT -5
( OR they just didn't think a bunch of freaks would be trying to diagram the set... or a more polite way to say it would be: they didn't think anyone would bother thinking about the logic of the sets/flat MORE than they did... )) A bunch of freaks is right! I can't stop thinking about this vortex of a flat! (btw, mikey, I freakin' love that you included a huge storage space in your drawing! ;D ;D ;D) Lol! I was drawing it and was left with this void and thought, it can't be a bedroom since there aren't any windows. So I just figured they had a really big storage room, since that kitchen is far too small and I haven't seen any closet space in the rooms.
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Post by ollianforever on Jun 23, 2008 21:17:33 GMT -5
This whole message board's got me confussed and laughing. There are some pretty obessed folks here. Not that I should judge, I've watched ever Ollian clip at least twice... okay 5 times! ;D ;D
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Post by friday13fan on Jun 24, 2008 9:00:19 GMT -5
Now, back to figuring out the flat. Yes, more diagrams, please Perhaps it is possible that the bedrooms are on a different level than the living room (above or below)? I'm not sure if that's been considered.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 24, 2008 9:07:56 GMT -5
I was wondering if maybe a sort of "Lichtschacht" was a possibility (don't know the English word). Basically it's a very tiny courtyard thingie that isn't actually meant to ever be entered by human beings. It just exists so certain rooms can have a window for light and air (usually toilets/bathrooms). So maybe the bathroom or the kitchen could get their window from something like that. It was rather amusing in my old appartment because pretty much all toilets in the house connected to the Lichtschacht and since my cousin lived in the flat on top of me we could talk to each other when in the loo/standing close to the loo.
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Post by aldebaran on Jun 24, 2008 9:21:47 GMT -5
I was wondering if maybe a sort of "Lichtschacht" was a possibility (don't know the English word). Basically it's a very tiny courtyard thingie that isn't actually meant to ever be entered by human beings. It just exists so certain rooms can have a window for light and air (usually toilets/bathrooms). So maybe the bathroom or the kitchen could get their window from something like that. It was rather amusing in my old appartment because pretty much all toilets in the house connected to the Lichtschacht and since my cousin lived in the flat on top of me we could talk to each other when in the loo/standing close to the loo. At this point I think that everything is possible. But if something falls down from the window how will you be able to collect it?
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 24, 2008 10:02:07 GMT -5
Oh I'm fairly confident that that is the case (that no floorplan exists). But it's still amusing to speculate. Kinda like Trekkies speculate about how a Warpdrive would work despite the fact that none actually exists.
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Post by restenergy on Jun 24, 2008 12:13:02 GMT -5
I was wondering if maybe a sort of "Lichtschacht" was a possibility (don't know the English word). I think it's a very real possibility. I'd even say it's quite likely. The building looks like it's supposed to be of an age were that would be a common sort of practice. I'm not sure about mid-century or more contemporary buildings, but if the building was built earlier, it would be unlikely that any rooms meant for regular human activity would not have a window.
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Post by mikey on Jun 24, 2008 17:16:30 GMT -5
I was wondering if maybe a sort of "Lichtschacht" was a possibility (don't know the English word). I think it's a very real possibility. I'd even say it's quite likely. The building looks like it's supposed to be of an age were that would be a common sort of practice. I'm not sure about mid-century or more contemporary buildings, but if the building was built earlier, it would be unlikely that any rooms meant for regular human activity would not have a window. That's what I had assumed was in between the Living Room and Christian's Room in my diagram, but I didn't consider there was one on the bathroom/kitchen side. That would make sense.
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Post by eldanesh on Jul 5, 2008 22:39:42 GMT -5
This whole message board's got me confussed and laughing. There are some pretty obessed folks here. Not that I should judge, I've watched ever Ollian clip at least twice... okay 5 times! ;D ;D oh, ollianforever, you obviously havn't seen the halo forums. i'm a fairly regular guy there, and they do things like measuring how many times a tower shoots out a beam of light (and it does that fairly quickly) in 100,000 years! and some other really outlandish stuff. so don't feel bad if you feel like a creeper obsessive freak really involved fan
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Post by restenergy on Aug 19, 2008 19:36:35 GMT -5
Oh, no! Not this again!! Yes, this again. More fun! When watching yesterday's episode, I ended up getting a clearer view of the set that its Ollian's living room. Previous attempts have tried to make this room as rectalinear as possible. The problem is that the set is quite irregularly shaped. Below is my attempt to sketch the layout of the room. It is, of course, not to scale nor proportional. Angles only provide a general idea, as well. It seems that it's built more like a stage set (surprise!) than an actual apartment room. The angles of the wall, for example, are much more reminiscent of a stage production than any actual flat you or I are likely to live in.
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Post by psionycx on Aug 19, 2008 19:57:27 GMT -5
Major kudos for the effort! You're right of course that it defies all logical proportions.
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Post by sheepiefarm on Aug 19, 2008 20:15:35 GMT -5
It also has doors which magically close themselves ;D
In Mondays episode 18 Aug - when Olli leaps over the couch to sit with Christian 2.44 the door into the hall is open - as the scene progresses with the two of them on the couch the camera angle pans back round 3.12 and "voila" the door is now closed.
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Post by aussie54 on Aug 19, 2008 20:15:46 GMT -5
Well done, restenergy. (I love this topic. ;D ) I imagine the table might be straighter than that, but I haven't had a good look at the clips to check. Your diagram's very good, but it's the rest of the appartment that has me fooled. Where are all these bedrooms? Perhaps there's a staircase to another level somewhere? I especially want to know why they have to go through the living room to get to the bathroom. They seem to do that a lot.
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Post by restenergy on Aug 19, 2008 20:45:53 GMT -5
In Monday's episode, the table was at an angle with respect to the sofa and the wall with the windows and hall door. It was less skewed (maybe close to parallel) to the wall in which the door to the bedrooms can be found. There was also a photo (either a spoiler or a recent cap) where I observed the table at this sort of angle, not square with the walls behind and to the right. I suspect the table is at an angle to make the walls that are angled seem more "normal" and square. But it is also possible that it is not always at that angle, either.
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Post by psionycx on Aug 19, 2008 21:32:47 GMT -5
I swear that those walls move periodically too.
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Post by aussie54 on Aug 20, 2008 3:53:31 GMT -5
Sheepiefarm, you're right. Must be ghosts in the appartment! And Restenergy, you're right about the table, it does look to be at a slight angle there. Now, when are you going to work on those bedrooms? ;D
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Post by synapticmisfire on Aug 26, 2008 20:26:34 GMT -5
Option #47: (with all due apologies to restenergy )
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 26, 2008 21:05:38 GMT -5
There should be a tv on the unseen wall because Christian was watching telephone porn advertisments way back when he was waiting for Coco to come back from partying ;D I always thought that that was a really funny touch.
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