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Post by justinate on Apr 17, 2019 7:10:54 GMT -5
MMTMF had its finale last night here in the US on the Univision network. I was glad to see they showed both of the Aristemo kisses. For a moment I thought they could be censored, given the fact the show has been heavily edited from its original version. 148 episodes here vs. 167 episodes broadcast in Mexico means many scenes have been cut off. I realized about that when watching Zyriths's blog and some of the scenes there were never shown on television. Univision is a network that supports liberal causes but its target audience consists mainly of Spanish speaking immigrants who are still socially conservative. Some of them are already posting negative comments on one of the IG pages of Univision showing their displeasure with the kisses scene. It's good that Univision kept in the gay kisses and didn't go the route of Relaciones Peligrosas (which even cut a scene where the kissing was only implied, not shown) - but it's disappointing to hear that it's gotten such a negative response from viewers in the US. Honestly how do people hate on two teenage boys who we watched fall in love, who had a long friendship before they got together and practically engaged before they even shared their first kiss? The US gay community already has various homegrown hate groups working against them, without immigrants also piling on. |
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Post by techguy on Apr 18, 2019 8:19:39 GMT -5
I think that the negative comments come from mostly older adults. Even though they live in the United States, they keep their language, their beliefs and traditions, all those things they learned in their native countries. Their children, however, who grow up or are born in the US, tend to be more open minded. They learn English and adopt more American ways.
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 28, 2019 6:07:18 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 29, 2019 17:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on May 5, 2019 13:21:00 GMT -5
MMTMF picked up the GLAAD Award for Outstanding Scripted Television Series (Spanish-Language) for the Aristemo storyline; they were tied with Elite, which was admittedly superior but it also had the advantage of airing on a streaming service to a different target audience and adult portrayers.
Emilio and Joaquin were in attendance at the ceremony in New York and collected the trophy.
I wasn't expecting it but for once GLAAD made the right call. Even a broken clock is right twice a day I suppose.
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Post by kevvoi on May 7, 2019 7:25:30 GMT -5
Zyrith uploaded the last part, plus stuff from the GLAAD Award: aristemoeng.blogspot.comEdited to add - Zyrith left a note that a scene was left out that was important. So Zyrith will do a new upload after finishing translating that scene. |
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Post by justinate on May 9, 2019 11:39:11 GMT -5
Thank you to Zyrith for bringing us this storyline. It was a nice sweet ending - a bit too pat, perhaps, especially Audifaz's sudden turnaround - I understood why Grandma Imelda came around after the boys saved her life, but Audifaz's own epiphany was poorly constructed, albeit well-acted without the usual melodrama by both him and Emilio.
All in all, I think this series was ground-breaking for bringing gay teenagers out of the shadows (and streaming services) and into the Mexican mainstream. They gave them a slow-burn (too slow in the intimacy aspect) friendship that turned into romance and they portrayed how their families eventually came to terms with it.
Now we wait for The Heart is Never Wrong, which is the next phase in the boys' story but also for the public consciousness of Mexican society. Does the country have an audience for a series that revolves around two gay boys in love?
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Post by mizuryuu on May 11, 2019 0:05:51 GMT -5
Is there any word on when the sequel will start?
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Post by justinate on May 11, 2019 13:15:30 GMT -5
Is there any word on when the sequel will start? Yes, Zyrith reported "The Heart is Never Wrong" would premiere on June 24th - so just six weeks from now, and a lot sooner than I expected. |
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Post by mizuryuu on May 11, 2019 23:52:53 GMT -5
Just finished watching the rest of the series. Not bad, considering the target audience. I liked the whole foot recovery storyline as it really showcase the love between the two. The change in attitude for the grandma and father, as others have mentioned, seems a bit abrupt, but not too surprising to force a happy ending.
Looking forward to the sequel where they will hopefully act more like their age instead of overgrown kids, which is not entirely unexpected considering the age of the actors. There are multiple times through this show where I thought they were in middle school (which is more appropriate considering their true age) and not graduating from high school.
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Post by justinate on May 12, 2019 10:28:40 GMT -5
Looking forward to the sequel where they will hopefully act more like their age instead of overgrown kids, which is not entirely unexpected considering the age of the actors. There are multiple times through this show where I thought they were in middle school (which is more appropriate considering their true age) and not graduating from high school. I found it particularly bizarre when they showed them in the same classes as their younger siblings/cousins. Yolo was the only one who was anywhere near the same age as Aristemo. The sequel might be an over-correction of that problem though, what with the casting of Mauricio Abad as their classmate. Very handsome guy, very gay-friendly (if not gay himself), but he also happens to be 5 years older than the Aristemo actors - and it shows. I'm not against him being part of the show - not AT ALL - but honestly he should be a more senior student, perhaps assigned to mentor the boys but falls for one of them. (And that could set up an exploration of the age gap.) |
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Post by boz-ruh on May 12, 2019 14:57:34 GMT -5
I just started watching them and this is so good and they really support their Aristemo fans. Lets have another Skam remake with these actors. Also Michael & Santiago is good too. Damn these telenovelas are way better then I expected! Here is picture of Joaquin Bondoni (Temo) I didn't notice he has curly hairs, when its longer; |
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Post by mizuryuu on May 14, 2019 0:32:31 GMT -5
I have to say, he looks better with the curls.
Regarding Mauricio Abad, I really hope they make him into an upper classman instead. I agree that it is quite clear that he is older than Aristemo. He can then act as mentor and source of jealousy for Aristemo
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Post by boz-ruh on May 18, 2019 9:22:12 GMT -5
Zyrith uploaded some music videos of Aristemo I love them! |
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Post by kevvoi on May 25, 2019 11:17:06 GMT -5
Short promo for the new series (no subtitles):
Courtesy of Edson.
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Post by justinate on Jun 9, 2019 7:25:50 GMT -5
I thought this was going to be a teen drama focused on Aristemo with Diego and new teen characters in supporting roles, but the new promos suggest we will actually have a lot of adult characters from MMTMF returning, and all but one of the new characters are also adults? (I don't see Mauricio Abad in any of the promotional material.)
It's also starting a day earlier than expected, with the premiere set for Sunday, 23 June (just two weeks from today) and will air nightly during the week. So with an initial episode order of 20, it'll be over in 4 weeks?
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Post by mizuryuu on Jun 9, 2019 20:00:28 GMT -5
Wait, so they are making the rest of Temo's family also move to Mexico City?!? I really hope they find a way to move the focus away from the "kid squad" though.
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Post by techguy on Jun 13, 2019 0:21:33 GMT -5
I thought this was going to be a teen drama focused on Aristemo with Diego and new teen characters in supporting roles, but the new promos suggest we will actually have a lot of adult characters from MMTMF returning, and all but one of the new characters are also adults? (I don't see Mauricio Abad in any of the promotional material.) It's also starting a day earlier than expected, with the premiere set for Sunday, 23 June (just two weeks from today) and will air nightly during the week. So with an initial episode order of 20, it'll be over in 4 weeks? Actually, Mauricio Abad is no longer part of the series, I don't know why. His place has been taken by Eduardo Barquin. Actors Ale Mueller and Sian Chiong also join the juvenile cast. All three of them were part of "Like". Young actor Bruno Santamaria will participate in the series too.   While teen dramas usually take place in a high school environment, let's remember that Aris and Temo are now college students. I too was a bit dissapointed not to see a larger teen cast, but keep in mind that colleges in Mexico are quite different from other colleges, like in the US, where students live together in the dorms, and there are fraternities and sororities. There's none of that in Mexico, so students from out of town usually have to rent apartments near the campus or stay with relatives. So it looks like this series will be much like MMTMF, a family drama rather than a teen drama. And while Aristemo is still the main focus, we will see more of their families. We'll get to know Diego's family as well as that of Carlota, who will be the guys' friend and who seems to have her own story regarding homosexuality. On the other hand, I'm glad to see that the adult actors are renowned actors, who would help give seriousness and audience to the project. Mexico, (and eventually other countries) need to see more of this story. |
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Post by justinate on Jun 13, 2019 11:06:28 GMT -5
Yes from the new trailer, it looks very much like a family drama, in fact most of the airtime is given over to adults with barely any teens. Even Aristemo, the supposed star couple, seem to be playing second fiddle to the adults. I suppose they felt a series with an exclusively juvenile cast can't sustain ratings (e.g. Like, la leyenda) so they've opted to keep the focus on adults?
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Post by HQ75 on Jun 13, 2019 11:54:00 GMT -5
Teens have parents. Also these particular teens are very close with their parents. Not including their parents wouldn't make sense. We don't actually know how much of each episode will focus on the teens yet so there is no reason to assume everything will be family focused. For me, I like seeing lezbigay teens WITH their families because it gives viewers a perspective about how kids can be out and proud and still have close relationships with their families.
Also the foundation of soap operas traditionally is families and telenovelas in particular so it shouldn't be surprising.
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Post by mizuryuu on Jun 14, 2019 1:51:50 GMT -5
I agree with the new casting. The new actors seems more like similar age to Aristemo than the previous actor.
I'll reserve judgement on the amount of adults since the trailers are for a more conservative audience so they may have downplayed the kids. It would be very weird to sell the show on Aristemo if they barely appears. I just hope they have the actors act a bit more like college age instead of middle school
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Post by justinate on Jun 14, 2019 12:14:57 GMT -5
Teens have parents. Also these particular teens are very close with their parents. Not including their parents wouldn't make sense. We don't actually know how much of each episode will focus on the teens yet so there is no reason to assume everything will be family focused. For me, I like seeing lezbigay teens WITH their families because it gives viewers a perspective about how kids can be out and proud and still have close relationships with their families. Also the foundation of soap operas traditionally is families and telenovelas in particular so it shouldn't be surprising. Yes but they moved to a new city ... to boarding school ... leaving their parents behind. Instead 90% of the trailer seems to be occupied by the same parents or new adults who are introduced simply to take away airtime from the established couple or their teenage peers. I liked Mauricio Abad but I did observe at the outset that he looked too old to be Aristemo's peer - but his replacement isn't much better in that sense if you ask me. He does work as a college student, and so did Mauricio - but the problem is Emilio and Joaquin look their age, which is 16? I thought they were going to a boarding school not college! |
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Post by techguy on Jun 22, 2019 14:55:50 GMT -5
The official premiere of “Together: the Heart is Never Wrong” is tomorrow Sunday, at 9:30 pm Mexico City time/U.S. Central time. But the “digital” premiere was yesterday in Las Estrellas network. (lasestrellas.tv) But that may be accesible only if you happen to be in Mexico. I know that the signal is blocked for the United States. Yet some folks have uploaded the 1st episode to YouTube. You can watch it if you want before it gets blocked or deleted. Here’s a link. Sorry no subtitles... youtu.be/-FocFwNoYDY |
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Post by techguy on Jun 22, 2019 15:00:37 GMT -5
Here’s another link:
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Post by lexmoon on Jun 22, 2019 16:29:53 GMT -5
Part 1 Sorry no subtitles
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