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Post by justinate on Feb 19, 2019 9:31:15 GMT -5
Youtube is clamping down on the English clips so you have to follow it on the blog: aristemoeng.blogspot.com/I fear the uploader is losing interest because he promised two clips a week but now it's dwindled to one (short) one a week. Supposedly the boys will kiss on Friday's episode. |
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 19, 2019 18:22:17 GMT -5
In my opinion, I am starting to lose interest in the storyline as well. I have not been enjoying the storyline as much lately - I think saddling the boys with the younger siblings was not the best storyline that they could have done - some of the scenes have left me cringing due to how inappropriate they were (the spin the bottle scene for example left me disgusted - since the older boys and the one cousin were much too old to be playing the game with the set of younger characters). I also became tired of Ari's indecision and the other friend's obsessiveness.
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Post by justinate on Feb 20, 2019 5:34:49 GMT -5
In my opinion, I am starting to lose interest in the storyline as well. I have not been enjoying the storyline as much lately - I think saddling the boys with the younger siblings was not the best storyline that they could have done - some of the scenes have left me cringing due to how inappropriate they were (the spin the bottle scene for example left me disgusted - since the older boys and the one cousin were much too old to be playing the game with the set of younger characters). I also became tired of Ari's indecision and the other friend's obsessiveness. I couldn't agree more. It struck me from the outset that Ari & Temo have virtually no friends their own age, except for Diego - but they ruined that by having him nurse an unrequited crush on Temo (newsflash: gay boys can be friends without having a romantic interest in each other). It's nice that Aristemo are close to their little siblings/cousins but having them be the entirety of their friends' circle was lame. Most 16-year-olds don't want to hang out 24/7 with little kids. And Ari's other cousins are older/in a completely different stage of their lives so it doesn't make sense to have them hang out with her. Even ONE school friend would've made a difference. Temo just moved to Oaxaca, so it's realistic that he doesn't have any friends there (and they did give him Diego back in his hometown). But Ari being friendless until Temo came along is ridiculous. We're told he has a substantial Youtube following, do you mean to tell me no one at his school wants to befriend a handsome, talented young social media star? For real? Of course, when they finally do introduce a new teen, it has to be that dreadful (but gorgeous) girl with a crush on Ari. And that immediately sunders any chance of her being friends with either of them. Considering how short-lived her romantic interest in him was, why was it even necessary? Let her be a bad influence on Ari without the romantic subplot. Ari has always been portrayed as responsible and mature, but what if she was to show him there's a lot more to being a teenager - especially one with his social media influence? There could be a natural conflict with Temo (another responsible teen) ensuing from that without a half-baked romantic rivalry. The pacing of this storyline is completely off, too. What sort of teenagers date for months without even sharing a kiss? I remember Ari briefly considered- when he was still coming to terms with his sexuality - whether he was asexual. That would make more sense at this point. A first kiss is not the landmark moment they are making it out to be - it probably only works in Mexico because LGBTQ representation is so poor throughout that country and that part of the world. If the actors weren't so damned adorable, I doubt they would've sustained their following for this long - let alone spark a pilot for a spin-off. I can't help being baffled by what the spin-off will bring us. There's an Aristemo guest appearance-concert-musical thing that's happening today and next month, which a few other characters (Ari's mum, his cousin Daniela, Temo's twin siblings) are a part of - I suspect they will be the cast of the spin-off? (Again, no characters the boys' own age!) |
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Post by justinate on Feb 24, 2019 22:22:08 GMT -5
Okay, so they actually kissed today - twice. I was starting to think it would just be a fade to black as their lips are about to meet.
It's the finale tonight, so the next time we see them will be on their spin-off, Amor Valiente (assuming it makes it past the pilot phase). Hopefully their kisses won't need to be such a milestone event on that!
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Post by TheGuyFromBrazil on Feb 25, 2019 9:13:32 GMT -5
Okay, so they actually kissed today - twice. I was starting to think it would just be a fade to black as their lips are about to meet. LOL I though of the same thing As someone from Latin America myself and being very familiar with the culture over here, I know gay kisses on primetime televion are still a big taboo, BUT something bothered me a bit was the way they handled the whole Aristemo kiss. It wasn't like they were afraid of a backlash or something like that (which I guess is fair), but instead, the way they kept teasing the scene, it became clear they were just milking the anticipation for the ratings, which was a bit tacky and off-putting. Having said that, I'm glad they did show the scene after all. The boys look cute together and I'm sure it will have a very positive impact on the Mexican LGBTQ+ youth (which is what really matters in the end) |
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 25, 2019 21:12:58 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on Mar 9, 2019 19:44:28 GMT -5
In my opinion, I am starting to lose interest in the storyline as well. I have not been enjoying the storyline as much lately - I think saddling the boys with the younger siblings was not the best storyline that they could have done - some of the scenes have left me cringing due to how inappropriate they were (the spin the bottle scene for example left me disgusted - since the older boys and the one cousin were much too old to be playing the game with the set of younger characters). I also became tired of Ari's indecision and the other friend's obsessiveness. I couldn't agree more. It struck me from the outset that Ari & Temo have virtually no friends their own age, except for Diego - but they ruined that by having him nurse an unrequited crush on Temo (newsflash: gay boys can be friends without having a romantic interest in each other). It's nice that Aristemo are close to their little siblings/cousins but having them be the entirety of their friends' circle was lame. Most 16-year-olds don't want to hang out 24/7 with little kids. And Ari's other cousins are older/in a completely different stage of their lives so it doesn't make sense to have them hang out with her. Even ONE school friend would've made a difference. Temo just moved to Oaxaca, so it's realistic that he doesn't have any friends there (and they did give him Diego back in his hometown). But Ari being friendless until Temo came along is ridiculous. We're told he has a substantial Youtube following, do you mean to tell me no one at his school wants to befriend a handsome, talented young social media star? For real? Of course, when they finally do introduce a new teen, it has to be that dreadful (but gorgeous) girl with a crush on Ari. And that immediately sunders any chance of her being friends with either of them. Considering how short-lived her romantic interest in him was, why was it even necessary? Let her be a bad influence on Ari without the romantic subplot. Ari has always been portrayed as responsible and mature, but what if she was to show him there's a lot more to being a teenager - especially one with his social media influence? There could be a natural conflict with Temo (another responsible teen) ensuing from that without a half-baked romantic rivalry. The pacing of this storyline is completely off, too. What sort of teenagers date for months without even sharing a kiss? I remember Ari briefly considered- when he was still coming to terms with his sexuality - whether he was asexual. That would make more sense at this point. A first kiss is not the landmark moment they are making it out to be - it probably only works in Mexico because LGBTQ representation is so poor throughout that country and that part of the world. If the actors weren't so damned adorable, I doubt they would've sustained their following for this long - let alone spark a pilot for a spin-off. I can't help being baffled by what the spin-off will bring us. There's an Aristemo guest appearance-concert-musical thing that's happening today and next month, which a few other characters (Ari's mum, his cousin Daniela, Temo's twin siblings) are a part of - I suspect they will be the cast of the spin-off? (Again, no characters the boys' own age!) I agree with the lack of characters the same age as the boys. I really hope that if the spin-off happens, they will introduce more teenage characters, especially if Aristemo is suppose to be the main focus. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 10, 2019 5:50:49 GMT -5
I found this. Seems like Temo is gay irl.
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Post by nlklinh on Mar 10, 2019 6:44:05 GMT -5
I found this. Seems like Temo is gay irl. Yeah, i saw that too, they posted pictures of him kissing another boy weeks ago and a Mexican friend told me that they posted them without his consent, as far as i know, he hasnt announced anything yet. =( |
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Post by justinate on Mar 10, 2019 12:17:20 GMT -5
The attempt at outing Joaquin is really despicable. He's 15, for crying out loud. Forced outing is bad at any age, but to do it to a child actor is particularly reprehensible.
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 11, 2019 20:07:57 GMT -5
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Post by nlklinh on Mar 12, 2019 10:34:10 GMT -5
The attempt at outing Joaquin is really despicable. He's 15, for crying out loud. Forced outing is bad at any age, but to do it to a child actor is particularly reprehensible. Yeah, the whole fandom already reported the insta account that posted those pic. Outing someone is unacceptable, especially with a 15 yo boy. |
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Post by justinate on Mar 13, 2019 8:36:54 GMT -5
Although I personally feel MMTMF leans too heavily towards the overacted melodrama typical of old-school telenovelas, I mostly enjoyed the latest episode uploaded by Zyrith. Ari's pride refusing to accept financial help even from his boyfriend and the devastating outcome to his baby brother's custody trial are more organic reasons for conflict than shoving in the non-entity that is Yolo. (That said, she is still making trouble for the boys in a hopelessly immature way.)
I was disappointed - and a little surprised - that Emilio didn't win Best Juvenile Actor at the TVyNovelas awards last weekend. Between the Aristemo phenomenon, Emilio's pre-existing fame (as a singer/dancer/son of celebrity parents) and the fact that he didn't have to compete against Joaquin (which I feared might split the Aristemo vote), I thought he was a shoo-in. Yet it went to one of the 4 actors from Like whose (poorly-rated) show dominated the category and should've split the vote. Santiago Achaga does have a larger social media following than Emilio, and as with most internet voting this award is more of a popularity contest, but I'm guessing he himself didn't expect to win because he didn't even attend the awards ceremony. (Emilio and Joaquin co-presented one of the awards, and the actor who plays Temo's dad was one of the co-hosts.)
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Post by lexmoon on Mar 13, 2019 18:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by techguy on Mar 19, 2019 0:05:17 GMT -5
Although Emilio failed to win at the TVyNovelas awards, he did win "best actor" at the "Eres" awards the next day, as this clip shows. Eres awards are named after a youth-oriented magazine, and in this category Emilio beat both Joaquin Bondoni and Santiago Achaga. I loved how Emilio pulled Joaquin with him to the stage and told the audience that half the prize belonged to Joaquin. They both won another award for "Best Kiss". Unlike the TVyNovelas awards, this ceremony was not broadcast live, but will air soon. |
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 21, 2019 5:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Apr 2, 2019 21:02:20 GMT -5
I have to commend the young actors on the level of intimacy they show even without being allowed to kiss (at this stage in the story). So many older actors struggle with showing they are 100% comfortable with the physicality of playing a gay couple. Regardless of whether Emilio or Joaco are gay/bi, at 15/16 it takes guts to put yourself out there on national TV, in a country that isn't renowned for LGBT acceptance. As for episode 26, the melodrama is off the charts, but they are showing the very necessary face of homophobia in Mexico. |
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Post by justinate on Apr 3, 2019 8:02:20 GMT -5
Seems like they are doing the read-through for the Aristemo pilot. (I thought they were titling it Amor Valiente after the boys' theme song, but it seems now it's Aristemo The Series? Or maybe it's just a working title at this stage.)
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Post by justinate on Apr 14, 2019 12:17:11 GMT -5
Zyrith posted some news about the Aristemo series. It seems it's not just a pilot, but 20 episodes have been commissioned so far and will premiere a lot earlier than expected: 24th June. Also Mauricio Abad (the star of Like, la leyenda) will be one of the leads. There's a lot more spoilers here about the pilot and another lead, so click at your own discretion: aristemoeng.blogspot.com/2019/04/annoucement-aristemo-series-info_13.html |
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Post by mizuryuu on Apr 14, 2019 23:55:28 GMT -5
Interesting. Nice to hear that the Aristemo series is actually approved for at least 20 episodes. Didn't even think it was going to make it out of pilot
Also good to hear that Zyrith will release more eng sub of the current series. Am I correct in my reading that he will be releasing multiple videso to finish up the series?
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Post by justinate on Apr 15, 2019 22:08:09 GMT -5
Interesting. Nice to hear that the Aristemo series is actually approved for at least 20 episodes. Didn't even think it was going to make it out of pilot Also good to hear that Zyrith will release more eng sub of the current series. Am I correct in my reading that he will be releasing multiple videso to finish up the series? Yes the 20 episode order was a pleasant surprise, I also had my doubts whether the pilot would be approved to series. Given that, until last year, gays were barely even seen on Mexican telenovelas, having a gay couple anchor one themselves a year later is a meteoric rise. It's a shame this series is not getting its dues around here, and people would rather wax lyrical about shows where the would-be gay protagonists have been displaced or erased altogether! I understood Zyrith plans to have a 5-hour finale to his subtitled clips later this month. Not sure whether it's just one big video or multiple installments released on the same date. |
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Post by mizuryuu on Apr 15, 2019 23:42:30 GMT -5
The fandom is smaller, so not too surprising. The lack of english subtitles beyond the first episode for months also handicapped the growth of the Aristemo fandom. By the time that Zyrith started subbing beyond the first episodes, we were already months behind the show, which makes it much harder to build momentum. Assuming you were talking about Skam, there was already consistent eng sub before S3, so it makes it much easier for fans to feel like they are "part of the story". Especially for a show like Skam that is very much real-time with the video release and social media postings.
Most likely multiple clips. I can't see any video site that would support multi-hours videos
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Post by TheGuyFromBrazil on Apr 16, 2019 8:20:11 GMT -5
I think Aristemo look super cute together and I'm looking forward to seeing them again on this new show.
Considering it won't be a regular telenovela, I would love to see them toning down a bit on the acting. I felt like some of the acting in the #Aristemo storyline was so "hyper-dramatic" (for no reason other than that being a mexican telenovela cliché) that it took me out of some important scenes/situations.
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Post by justinate on Apr 16, 2019 11:10:56 GMT -5
I think Aristemo look super cute together and I'm looking forward to seeing them again on this new show. Considering it won't be a regular telenovela, I would love to see them toning down a bit on the acting. I felt like some of the acting in the #Aristemo storyline was so "hyper-dramatic" (for no reason other than that being a mexican telenovela cliché) that it took me out of some important scenes/situations. I concur about the melodramatic acting being a bit much but I don't think we'll escape it in the spin-off. The pilot script suggests it will still be melodramatic. |
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Post by techguy on Apr 16, 2019 22:02:09 GMT -5
MMTMF had its finale last night here in the US on the Univision network. I was glad to see they showed both of the Aristemo kisses. For a moment I thought they could be censored, given the fact the show has been heavily edited from its original version. 148 episodes here vs. 167 episodes broadcast in Mexico means many scenes have been cut off. I realized about that when watching Zyriths's blog and some of the scenes there were never shown on television. Univision is a network that supports liberal causes but its target audience consists mainly of Spanish speaking immigrants who are still socially conservative. Some of them are already posting negative comments on one of the IG pages of Univision showing their displeasure with the kisses scene.
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