Plus Belle La Vie: Thomas

[kisara20]

Episode of October 8th, 2010



Scene 1

Doctor: You're welcome. Good luck for the future.
Florian: I talked to the doctor. Worry, everything is fine.
Elodie: You know, I didn't know that it was an alcoholic coma.
Florian: I cannot even dispute you. I had the fright of my life, you know.
Elodie: Me too.
Florian: You have learned a lesson at least?
Elodie: Yeah, don't worry. I don't want to die or have sequelae. I don't it again.
Florian: Ah, I had your mother on the phone earlier. So, normally you start classes Monday but if you want, you can stay here a few days. What do you prefer?
Elodie: I think it's better if I return.
Florian: I wanted to spend some time with you but I understand.
Elodie: I want to find my friends. Here, I left in a spin(derailed suddenly lose the reason).
Florian: And then, I haven't been up to the height.
Elodie: You will separate with Thomas?
Florian: I hope not. You always find me pathetic?
Elodie: I don't know.
Florian: Ah, tell me. If ever that boy tries to reconnect with you, by mail or phone, please, you don't answer him. It wasn't a good influence.
Elodie: Romain, you mean?
Florian: Yes.
Elodie: Don't worry. I don't want to. But hey, you know it's not his fault. Finally, it isn't him who drove me to drink.
Florian: It's a little this idea, right?
Elodie: Let's say we felt like both.
Florian: Well, whatever. We won't dispute for that.
Elodie: Dad ...
Florian: Yes.
Elodie: You know, I'm glad you're here.

Scene 2

Abdel: It's that Elodie made a ethyl coma?
Thomas: Yeah, yesterday afternoon.
Barbara: How is she?
Thomas: Well now. But it's true we were very afraid. When she almost died.
Barbara: It seems she had with Romain.
Thomas: Yes. It's him who called the emergency services.
Barbara: Well, after doing drink her, great.
Abdel: What do you know anything. Why do you say that?
Barbara: Well, it's obvious that this guy is insane. Already at the base I wasn't too confident but then there's over.
Thomas: What do you mean by unhealthy?
Barbara: It keeps coming to mine (= getting drunk, but in the extreme. Drinking alcohol to the extent possible).
Thomas: Well, it may be ill at ease.
Abdel: At the same time, in such event, it's not just him who drinks.
Barbara: But he even booze elsewhere. It's always torn.
Abdel: Yeah, right.
Barbara: Wait, at parties, he plays the autistic kind there all alone in his corner. Me, it scares me when he does that.
Abdel: But it's perhaps a little odd but he's not bad.
Barbara: That's a psychopath, I say. He make all the skins party and he embraces anyone.
Abdel: And then? It's not required either.
Barbara: Well I think he has a big problem this guy.

Scene 3

Romain: That's nonsense. My uncle couldn't kill someone. He would never do such a thing.
Blanche: I hope you're right.
Romain: But of course I'm right. How can you believe he's guilty?
Blanche: For now, I think nothing. I'm upset as you and I await the outcome of the investigation.
Romain: You think the cops will keep him a long time?
Blanche: I well with the physical evidence they found at home.
Romain: What will I do if he goes to jail? Damn, I'm tired, I have some enough, I have some enough of this life of shit there.
Blanche: Listen, calm yourself Romain. We will find a solution.
Romain: But what solution? Me if he doesn't return, I'll end up in a home for the minor. That's what I'll do.
Thomas: You want breakfast?
Blanche: Yes of course. Take what you want. I invite you.
Romain: I haven't hungry.
Blanche: That's crazy. He and his uncle are so close.
Thomas: What is the story of home of minor.
Blanche: If Sebastien is incarcerated, the judge placed in a home for minor. He's a minor.
Thomas: And his parents?
Blanche: They died in a car accident when he was little. It's Sebastian who raised him.
Thomas: Yeah, I understand her anguish. If I hadn't my aunt, I should have gone into homes after the death of my mother.
Blanche: Unless you've finally found your father. Him, it never will happen him.
Thomas: He never support the home.

Scene 4

Romain: Mr Esteve.
Florian: Uh yes.
Romain: It's you the father of Elodie. She's better?
Florian: You are?
Romain: I'm Romain.
Florian: So you're Romain. You know that I will complain against you?
Romain: Why?
Florian: My daughter almost died.
Romain: Yeah but it's better.
Florian: Well, you heard what I just told you that?
Romain: Wait, I didn't forcedher to drink, your daughter.
Florian: You explain that to the juvenile judge.
Romain: Damn, you're not going to do that. It's disgusting.
Thomas: What is happening here?
Florian: I tell this boy he is responsible for his actions.
Romain:Wait, you ask what you made, you, so that she arrives from there up to now.
Florian: Species of shit asshole.
Romain: Fuck you.
Florian: Well, you see the mentality of this guy here? Fortunately that Elodie doesn't wants to see him.
Thomas: Yeah, okay. But you aren't obliged to be as hard on him.
Florian: You're not going to defend him either you.
Thomas: You know who is he?
Florian: Yes, a teenager dangerous to himself and others.
Thomas: It's the nephews of Sebastien Blanchard as his uncle was arrested and charged with murder, he will leave for home of minor.
Florian: I didn't know it was him.
Thomas: You'll understand he's a little loaded at the moment.
Florian: okay. That doesn't excuse.
Thomas: Don't bother to add more. He's only 17 years. Shit.

Scene 5

Thomas: I learned is I happen to you. It's tough.
Romain: It is better Elodie? Your boyfriend, he wouldn't even tell it to me.
Thomas: Okay, you can make me tu. She's fine, she came out this afternoon and she spends the evening with his father.
Romain: I'm sorry for the kiss the other night. It was stupid, it was ....
Thomas: This is the first time you tell someone you're gay?
Romain: I'm gay myself?
Thomas: I don't know. It's you who've told me. I can?
Romain: But what do you do?
Thomas: You don't need to take it.
Romain: Because you think I drink because of that, you.
Thomas: It is because of what then?
Romain: Before he was assassinated, I had a boyfriend. His name was Clement Lefur.

[kisara20]

Episode of October11th, 2010



Scene 1

Thomas: Hi. What are you doing around here? I'll offer you a coffee if you like.
Romain: No no. Good. I took a disgusting breakfast at home of minor.
Thomas: Well, how it happens there? Arrive to you at being done there?
Romain: Well means. II wait until my grandmother returns of voyage and as that I would live at her home.
Thomas: Good. Tell me, Friday night, you're gone quickly.
Romain: Listen, I gotta go. I'll be late in school.
Thomas: Wait. It's what you told me about you and Clement Lefur.
Romain: Listen, I don't want that we talk about it. Ok?
Thomas: And your uncle, he was aware of your relationship?
Romain: But of course not. Damn, I should never have to tell you about that, me.
Thomas: Now that I know, I don't pretend I knew nothing.
Romain: Listen, you must promise me that you're not going to talk anyone about it. Promise me that you're not going to tell anyone. Tell me ...
Thomas: Calm yourself. Come. Come on. You must go to tell to the cops what you know.
Romain: But you're sick. I cannot do such a thing.
Thomas: Clement Lefur is died. The stakes are too serious.
Romain: Look, you're the only person I said that.I would ever speak about it and even less to the cops. Ok?
Thomas: I want to try to understand but you must tell me why.
Romain: But if I tell them that, they will use it against my uncle.
Thomas: They already think your uncle is guilty.
Romain: Yes, but they will say it's because of how he killed him and I know he did nothing.
Thomas: You sure that's the only reason? Are you afraid that your uncle teach your homosexuality, right? Come on, don't put you in such a state. You see, one day everything will seem simple.

Scene 2

Florian: I love this picture of us. Did you mind if I take him?
Thomas: No, no. Take it. You know, you didn't have to pack your bags today.
Florian: Why wait. We played this comedy only for Elodie. She's gone. I won't force you to continue. Unless you ask me to stay.
Thomas: No.
Florian: Well that's it. What I was saying.
Thomas: Well, you had Elodie? You called her, she gets better?
Florian: Approximately, yes. I saw you talking with Romain earlier. I don't understand why you talk to him again.
Thomas: Yes, listen. He knows he made a big bullshit.
Florian: A bullshit? Wait, he almost killed her.
Thomas: Well, he blames himself for that.
Florian: How can you defend him. This is a public danger that boy.
Thomas: I don't defend.
Florian: Well then it's imitated.
Thomas: I'm just trying to understand him. He passes through a nasty period. It's all.
Florian: That's ridiculous. You start to play the big brother whereas you don't even know him.
Thomas: I know what he live and it touches me. And you also should be affected because you have certainly experienced the same thing as him.
Florian: Same thing as this asshole? I doubt it.
Thomas: Romain is gay, he doesn't assume and that makes it sick. Ok?

Scene 3

Leo: Even if the guilt of Blanchard is a best guess, there is a lot of dark area.
Florian: I would rather have a confession. It's more solid.
Leo: Yes, but despite all the charges we have against him, he hasn't cracked. It's a tough type.
Florian: The Runway Asia Dalta, it has given something?
Leo: Then she denies everything. She did nothing, she saw nothing. She feels that no pruve against her.
Florian: A comparison of his fingerprints with those found at the crime scene, nothing comes of it?
Leo: No. I'm going to release her. As he famous Lassalle, we verified with the prefecture and with the various boxes, unknown to the battalion.
Florian: You think managers' fideloupas.com "could have been invented him from scratch?
Leo: Or, he appeared under a false name. Given the nature of his request, he had better keep quiet.
Florian: All tracks deflating one after another in this case.
Leo: Yeah, if we hadn't found the hard drive, we would be stalled. And yet. It was thanks to an anonymous call.
Florian: I know that the lawyer which Blanchart chose. He's frightening. IN front of him, the charge will not hold in front of a jury of base.
Leo: Blanchard can still make us a confession.
Florian: You told me he was very attached to his nephew? Try to dig on that side.
Leo: You think he may be involved in this matter? It's a boy.
Florian: I had the opportunity to cross him. He's borderline, ready for all the excesses and gay as the victim.
Leo: You think they knew each other ?
Florian: I don't know anything. He may have something to say and his interrogation would put pressure on his uncle.

[sylstyle]

Finally able to say what I'm thinking about Florian's death ...
actually his last episode was on the 1st, as we only had 30 seconds of Florian for his last epp ....
Was Thomas still in love with Florian ... IDK, was he sad because he lost a just a friend?? maybe. I have to say after everything Florian did (being unfaithful, and not separating personal from professional life), I completely understand Thomas' POV ...
Now as we know PBLV is full of surprises, but Thomas will have to be single if florian is coming back I want a grown up Florian

Enfn capable de commenter la mort de Florian ... bon en fait son dernier épisode, n'était pas vraiment son dernier épisode, car il est apparu que 30 secondes.
Est-ce que Thomas était encore amoureux de Florian, je ne sais pas, est-ce qu'il a juste perdu un ami, certainement Je dois dire que finalement je peux très bien comprendre Thomas, après tout ce que Florian a fait (tromper Thomas, ne pas savoir séparer vie personnelle et vie professionnelle).
Maintenant avec PBLV qui est toujours plein de surprises, Florian pourra toujours revenir, mais il faudra que Thomas soit célibataire et que Florian soit beaucoup plus mature.

Sylvain

[rtgtx]

I think Thomas was mostly regretful because he felt he's responsible for Florian's death, which was true.


Btw, now the subs for the above two parts are up.

[kisara20]

Nov 9, 2010 12:07:44 GMT -5 sylstyle said:

Finally able to say what I'm thinking about Florian's death ...
actually his last episode was on the 1st, as we only had 30 seconds of Florian for his last epp ....
Was Thomas still in love with Florian ... IDK, was he sad because he lost a just a friend?? maybe. I have to say after everything Florian did (being unfaithful, and not separating personal from professional life), I completely understand Thomas' POV ...
Now as we know PBLV is full of surprises, but Thomas will have to be single if florian is coming back I want a grown up Florian

Enfn capable de commenter la mort de Florian ... bon en fait son dernier épisode, n'était pas vraiment son dernier épisode, car il est apparu que 30 secondes.
Est-ce que Thomas était encore amoureux de Florian, je ne sais pas, est-ce qu'il a juste perdu un ami, certainement Je dois dire que finalement je peux très bien comprendre Thomas, après tout ce que Florian a fait (tromper Thomas, ne pas savoir séparer vie personnelle et vie professionnelle).
Maintenant avec PBLV qui est toujours plein de surprises, Florian pourra toujours revenir, mais il faudra que Thomas soit célibataire et que Florian soit beaucoup plus mature.

Sylvain

Then my little sylstyle, if you find that florian is immature, it shows that you haven't followed their story from the beginning because question of immaturity thomas breaks all records.
Know that Thomas has always played with the feelings of Florian to get what he wanted to (legally speaking when he or someone he knows had problems with justice and oddly it was her lovers!) And Florian always seeing Thomas as the 8th wonder of the world (this is normal, it was his first guy )....
Moreover, when the deception florian is Thomas who has pushed to have sex with Diego because Mr. couldn't trust him because he thought florian going to make all marseille ..... blah.
Know that Thomas has also cheated with bruno florian basini, a mobster. At that time he has cheated, humiliated, mocked, insulted, angered the whole district against him ... In short, he lowered below ground into believing that everything was his fault. And all for what? To continue his romp with Bruno. He even wanted to elope with him in Italy!
Something else. When her former boyfriend, Nicolas, has returned to the dead, he also slept with him. Heck yeah! Thomas needs to sleep with a guy to know if he loves him or not! And again according to Thomas was the fault of florian and his jealousy!
Moral of the story, with Thomas is "doing what I say but not what I do!"
Sure, florian has always confused life and private life but it must be said that there was always thomas the grown. Florian has spent the last three years to catch up all the crap of thomas, to choose between thomas and his job, to choose between Thomas and his daughter. As if he didn't deserve to have all three at once!
The only thing that could make florian is to love Thomas more than him, his life, more than anything. He loved him like a fool.
As for Thomas, one wonders if he knows what it means to love. I believe more than he likes to be to love, from where his standpoint in the various intrigues with Bruno, Nicolas and Roman lately. is enough that somebody make him a declaration of love burning for what he believes it's the man of his life! Strangely you will notice that these are all repressed gay.

So if you wonder if Thomas still loves florian, for me the answer is yes!
Certainly they were no longer together when florian died but I think Thomas has never stopped loving florian. It was like Bruno and Nicolas, he was in his head that he no longer loved florian but precisely because he loved him he was doing all that. I sometimes felt during those three years that Thomas was a small inferiority complex compared to florian. Florian loved him like crazy, doing everything for him. I think Thomas knows sometimes said he didn't deserve him, which led him to errors such as Bruno and Romain, which led him to reject weeks florian occasions. Thomas is borderline, impulsive but deep inside him, and as he's afraid he won't show it, show her feelings and fears, he shines (have a sudden reaction of refusal), drop everything and everyone, share stories bullshit, bullshit is so ....
This explains the behavior of thomas. And though Thomas said he doesn't feel guilty for the death of Florian, for me it's false. But he's right about one thing: guilt won't return florian. However it's his way of going forward, not to sink into depression even though I think it's going to happen. By dint of denying the obvious, sooner or later it will come out and explode. He will eventually blow a fuse. In other words, "he hides the face," he refuses to see reality. He feels guilty but refuses to show it. This wouldn't be surprised if Thomas ended up going mad then.

But it's only my opinion.

[kisara20]

Episode dated 12 October 2010



Generic

Djawad: Go, we believe it.
Jean-Francois: He was forced him to swallow drugs and alcohol to make it appear a suicide.
Sebastien: Well, me, instead of the police I would look more towards his private life.
Romain: Before he was assassinated, I had a boyfriend. His name was Clement Lefur.
Florian: That's ridiculous. You start to play the big brother when you don't even know him.
Thomas: Your uncle was aware of your relationship?
Romain: But of course not.
Asia: What you got, you? You want my picture?
Romain: Why did you do that?
Asia: One paid me to do them.
Romain: Who? Who?
Samia: Release her. Get away from her.

Scene 1 (0: 32 min)

Thomas: One was told me that Romain was in custody yesterday. You explain me?
Florian: I have no information to give you on a case in progress.
Thomas: Well, don't shit. You hound on him from the coma of Elodie.
Florian: that does not have anything to see. Romain Blanchard was guilty of aggression. That's why he was questioned.
Thomas: An aggression, as by chance. You're no better there?
Florian: Okay, I'll be clearer. Romain is suspected of murder.
Thomas: What?
Florian: We was found incriminating photos of Lefur in his phone. We believe he tried to blackmail him, and that things have degenerated.
Thomas: I warn you. You are way off the mark (You missed the point).
Florian: But it's you that leaves you blind.
Thomas: Well, I promised to say nothing but it's too serious. Roman couldn't have killed Lefur.
Florian: Why?
Thomas: Because it was his boyfriend and he's devastated by his death.

Scene 2

Romain: Well, I told all to police, there.
Florian: So it's me who'll talk, okay? I think I know what happened with Clement Lefur.
Romain: But nothing happened.
Florian: Clement Lefur was your friend, your lover to be exact.
Romain: Who it's who told you that? I'm not gay me.
Florian: I know you have trouble meeting but don't worry, I don't judge on your moral affinities.
Romain: But wait. This is nonsense. I'm not gay. Lefur, I hardly knew him.
Florian: You've been intimate pictures of him on your phone.
Romain: What does that prove that? He was with a woman in these photos.
Florian: Yes. A temptress hired by a specialized agency. Someone paid 3,000 euros to break your relationship. It turns out that same day, this amount was debited from the FACAM (Merchants Association).
Romain: That's not true. You are angry against me because of Elodie then you tell only bullshit.
Florian: The only person who could unlock the money was the treasurer i.e. your uncle.
Romain: It's wrong. Why would he do that?
Florian: The idea that his beloved nephew is gay was unbearable for him. It was Lefur which had involved you on this way. That's why he was killed.
Romain: It's not possible. Ok ok. Okay. Clement and I were together and we loved each other. Ok But my uncle, he never could have suspected anything.
Florian: And how can you sure?
Romain: Because we was super careful. We saw during his trip. He has never been suspected. I swear.

Scene 3

Florian: Yes.
Sebastien: What do you want?
Florian: I wanted to inform you of the progress of the investigation. You're not the prime suspect, Mr. Blanchard.
Sebastien: You need to announce it at night.
Florian: You are entitled to know that our suspicions are moving now on your nephew, Romain.
Sebastien: That's ridiculous. Roman has nothing to do with this.
Florian: It was the lover of the victim. I guess you did not know.
Sebastien: Pure slander. My nephew is not gay.
Romain: It's not possible. Ok ok. Okay. Clement and I we loved each other and we were together. Ok But my uncle, he never could have suspected anything. Ok agreed. But my uncle never have suspected anything.
Florian: How can you be sure?
Romain: Because we was super careful. We saw during his trip. He has never been suspected. I swear.
Florian: Before this revelation, my suspicions are focused on you but if you weren't aware that, that can be only Romain.
Sebastien: You have proof of what you say?
Florian: We know enough to put him under investigation. In this kind of story, the lover is a very credible suspect. The Romain's footprints are everywhere in the apartment of Lefur and I feel him ready for confession.
Sebastien: You aren't allowed. It's a kid.
Florian: So, it doesn't exonerate of anything in his responsibility.
Sebastien: He did nothing. Leave him quiet.
Florian: If it's not him, who else? Who?
Sebastien: That's me. I hated him, that's what I killed.

[kisara20]

The next video is for tomorrow!

[kisara20]

Episode dated 13 October 2010



Scene 1

Thomas: Finally! The cops released you?
Romain: My uncle has confessed to the murder in the night.
Thomas: I'm sorry. I don't know.
Romain: Of course you knew that. It's your fault all that.
Thomas: Calm down. I don't understand.
Romain: Why are you going to tell your little judge that I had a storywith Clement Lefur? Huh? You know what he did? He would have served to put the pressure to my uncle.
Thomas: I'm sorry Romain. I couldn't do otherwise.
Romain: Damn. I told you not to tell anyone. You see, I trusted you, damn.
Thomas: Florian thought you you were blackmailing to Lefur with these photos. He suspected you of the murder.
Romain: And then? I'm not enough big to defend myself all alone, right? He tried to make me crack, he tried but I didn't let myself.
Thomas: Who? Florian?
Romain: You know what he wanted? He wanted me to believe that my uncle had paid the girl for photos with Clement. Supposedly, she came from a specialist agency and everything.
Thomas: It's not impossible.
Romain: He made me recognize that I was gay, I was the boyfriend of Clement. He filmed everything.
Thomas: I am sorry he's tossed you live it.
Romain: That was all you got to say about that? Everyone will say that my uncle killed the guy of his little gay nephew. And you're sorry, right?
Thomas: Romain, you shouldn't talk about you like that, please.
Romain: I don't even know if I'm gay. You see, Clement is a thing apart. Tomorrow, I can fall in love with a girl, I don't know.
Thomas: Maybe or a boy but if you don't accept it, you may suffer.
Romain: Damn, now I'm going wrong. You don't see anything, you. All the school will be informed.
Thomas: There is no reason. Go ....
Romain: But give me peace whore.

Scene 2

Romain: Abdel.
Abdel: Oh hello. I hadn't seen you.
Romain: I must ask you something. I know you're good at maths and now I need you to make me work.
Abdel: Oh yeah.
Romain: What's wrong? You're weird.
Abdel: Not just that I'm a little busy. It's all.
Romain: Well, I'll be cash. I need to concentrate on things that take me head. You know, there was my uncle who is in prison. You aware of?
Abdel: Yeah, quickly.
Romain: here I think of nothing else and it bothers me.
Abdel: Okay, I'll help you in math if it makes you change your mind.
Romain: Frankly, I'll make it up to you (I owe you one). That's cool. What you got there?
Abdel: Nothing. Excuse me, I'm a little stress at this time.
Romain: You were not the earlier. One might even see me you were bored.
Abdel: But not at all. You are delirious.
Romain: You've said that I was gay, right? It's that? It's the school that one says you that?
Abdel: No. Not at all. You're right to be gay. It's just that .... Why you didn't say me that?
Romain: Why? That interests you, the gay?
Abdel: Stop. It has nothing to do.
Romain: I don't know, you don't look at me like before. Maybe you want that I kiss you.
Abdel: No.
Romain: Come on, come on.
Abdel: No, but stop.
Romain: You're afraid of that.
Abdel: Stop it, it's good. Leave me.
Matteo: Hey, you're attracted to guy, you? Remark, you have well the face for that.
Romain: You've watched you, poor shit. Even a pig wouldn't want you. Go kick away.

Scene 3

Florian: I'm judge and I instruct a murder case I'll call you.
Thomas: It gives you all right, it's that?
Florian: No, but I have done nothing that is beyond the scope of the law.
Thomas: Law, Law. Whore, you're more than a word to mouth. The human aspect, you don't care that.
Florian: But stop. This is not true. And I don't understand what you reproach me.
Thomas: You've used the Romain's homosexuality, you've used his confession for make crack a suspect and that, that drips me. You understand that?
Florian: But I seek the murderer of a man. I cannot afford to ignore the capitals (essentials) news.
Thomas: Romain is in terrible shape because his uncle learned he was gay in the office of a judge.
Florian: Oh, it doesn't date from yesterday his condition. He spends his nights getting drunk. He causes even little girls in his fall.
Thomas: Actually, it's that. You just try to make him pay for what he did to your daughter. It doesn't matter his pain.
Florian: Excuse me. I prefer to reserve my sympathy to the victims.
Thomas: Of course Mister the judge. You avenge by hiding you behind the good feelings. It's cowardice.
Florian: Do you really think that about me?
Thomas: When you screw up the life of a 17 year old, the least of the things is to assume yes.
Florian: So you'd better examine your own motives. Why you put yourself in that state for a kid you barely know? Lastly, not if kid that.
Thomas: Get out, you dirty everything. Releases!
Roland: What happens to you? Why have you yelled at him, Thomas?
Thomas: He disgusts me. I don't know how I could have stayed so many years with a guy like that.


Scene 4

Sybille: Romain, I seek you since earlier. Well, come on, I'll take you home.
Romain: My Home? It's at the DDASS (Departmental Directorate of Health and Social Affairs).
Sybille: Good listening. You have drunk too much.
Romain: But you're more angry? You've treated asshole. It's because you have pity for the small f*g, that's right?
Sybille: Listen, Abdel told me how he had reacted. I think it's stupid . I'm not like that.
Romain: Hush. Attention. All the school is aware. It's the glory.
Sybille: Well, that's enough. Come on.
Romain: No, but let me go whore. Okay. I just want to be quiet. Good.
Sybille: Ok You know what? I leave you alone but if you got interested in discussing or puke on someone shoes, you call me. Ok?
Romain: Ok
Matteo: So the transvestite, you insulted me just now. We'll take good care of you.

[rtgtx]

Thanks, Kisara. The subs are uploaded now.

And I still like Thomas, I hope he can be happy. Now he must be very sad.

What will his next boyfriend be? After a cop, a judge, a mafioso, a teenage, probably it will be a lawyer? A lawyer can fit into many intrigues. As for Florian, I hope the actor can come back as his evil twin brother who will avenge Thomas and then he'll fall for him?...so another triangle... that'll be too much.

[kisara20]

Nov 13, 2010 19:37:35 GMT -5 rtgtx said:

Thanks, Kisara. The subs are uploaded now.

And I still like Thomas, I hope he can be happy. Now he must be very sad.

What will his next boyfriend be? After a cop, a judge, a mafioso, a teenage, probably it will be a lawyer? A lawyer can fit into many intrigues. As for Florian, I hope the actor can come back as his evil twin brother who will avenge Thomas and then he'll fall for him?...so another triangle... that'll be too much.

Oh no! Don't tell me a lawyer!
Nicolas, the first guy, the cop, he became a lawyer later.
You'll bring us luck! LOL.
Seriously. I hope that Thomas won't find other guys before very long. If he could consider sexual abstinence, in short, draw a line on his love life for at least a year or more, it would be great. :-XThis will allow time for writers to come back from the dead florian or bring his twin. If it's franck who plays his guy, to me that will suit me. But the best it's in florian!
Impossible for me to imagine thomas without florian for now.
Besides, I created a topic on the forum pblv soap. I put a poll on possible return of Franck Borde / Florian Estève in the soap. If you want to vote, I'd make the translation of the proposals. ;D

Here's the link:

forums.france3.fr/france3/pblv/Personnages/forever-florian-thorian-sujet_58813_1.htm

[kisara20]

Here's my poll: ;D

In view of the various surveys, Franck Borde / Florian Estève you miss and want to review and reform in PBLV with Laurent Kerusore / Thomas Marci torque flagship of the mistral .... How do you see his returning? Which possible return for Florian?

1. "In lookalike. (Heck yeah! We have all one in this world. And it was even more fortunate to have one in PBLV!)

2. "In twin". (for exemple: Florian and his twin were adopted into different families without knowing the existence of the other.)

3. "In ghost" that haunts the mistral and especially Thomas for he feel a little guilty nevertheless!

4. "In just FLORIAN and nothing else !!!!!" (exemple: he made was removed and made passed for died by accomplices of Denilson in order to enlist him in Denilson's sect and to handle him so that he makes him leave jail!)

5. "In florian again!". Doctors have planted themselves (The big mistake!). They thought he was dead but no. His heart started beating again just after the death and stop the machines. The hospital cover their "mistake."

6. "Again and again in Florian!" Esteve family asked doctors to make him pass for dead away from Thomas. Heck yeah! parents reject the idea that their son is gay and want him back in the "right way".

7. "In florian again and again." Florian was impersonating death to live the high life, traveling, etc. ... Unless he's arrested for speeding and then everybody understands that he's alive.

8. "In Florian" (this is the last time!). He's kidnapped by aliens and replaced by a clone the day he died! (For those who don't care about how he comes back; the moment that he comes back !!!!)

There. I dropped a little doing but I hope it will inspire more than one!

[rtgtx]

Interesting, Kisara! I'll go with #1. I think it's the most reasonable. There still can be good drama with Thomas. And Franck the actor can have a good opportunity to play a different character. I like the idea.

[kisara20]

Nov 13, 2010 23:39:42 GMT -5 rtgtx said:

Interesting, Kisara! I'll go with #1. I think it's the most reasonable. There still can be good drama with Thomas. And Franck the actor can have a good opportunity to play a different character. I like the idea.

That's true. But I prefer the kidnapping by Denilson and his sect as the solution reaches the previous SL which was before the death of Florian. There is a way to combine two ls because there are flaws in both SL. Moreover, as I said, I want to see Florian in priority. Nevertheless, the twin would be a good option. After everyone has their preference and I think I put enough different solutions to please everyone.
Otherwise, the mistake of doctors, it would still not bad. LOL. They may realize that he's still alive and decides to keep him in a coma the time to know what to do. And there an intern or nurse discovering this, decides to prevent the cops or whatever.

[kisara20]

Episode dated 14 October 2010



Scène 1

Thomas: That is less swollen. Hold, plug your lip with that.
Romain: Well, I am sorry to have awaked you in middle of the night.
Thomas: You did well, you mean? Do you have still badly
Romain: No, I'll be fine. Good.
Thomas: You should still go to see the cops.
Romain: To tell them what?
Thomas: Well, you're beaten up by two asshole at a party and it's not normal.
Romain: Wait, that's good. It was just a fight. I have almost nothing.
Thomas: Romain, it could have been worse.
Romain: It could have been worse for them yeah. If I had caught the two, I would have smashed them, you know. I can tell you they were lucky.
Thomas: Stop it, you're that lucky. I know quite what kind of guy.
Romain: You don't even know who that is?
Thomas: Yes, but I guess the kind. They had to insult you, stuff like that.
Romain: Look, I don't want people talking about it, ok?
Thomas: They treated you of f*g, or something like that? With me, you can tell it. I already lived that. You should complain, you shouldn't stay like that. We'll go to the police every two.
Romain: Are you sick or what? I'd rather die than go to the cops myself.
Thomas: You don't to have shame because you're doing to beat.
Romain: Good listening. I didn't do beat, I won't complain. Is that clear?
Thomas: Well ok. Forget it. Hold. That way you can come and take refuge here when you want. Take.
Romain: Thanks but it is at home I'd like to go with my uncle. But thank you.

Scene 2

Thomas: Uh, hello. I can tell you about two seconds?
Florian: It depends. If it's to insult me, I prefer to avoid.
Thomas: Good pooh okay. Excuse me for yesterday. I was on edge.
Florian: Enter. Sit down. I'm listening you.
Thomas: Can you grant a visiting room to Romain? He needs to see his uncle.
Florian: Okay. I foolishly thought that you wanted to make peace, to know if I'm fine and all that.
Thomas: Okay. It's not about us. This is Romain. He's completely lost, he's badly.
Florian: What do you want me to do? I'm not a social worker.
Thomas: You've manipulated him to make confess his uncle. You owe him that, no.
Florian: Reason moreover for especially not letting them speak, you want to say.
Thomas: Ok, I don't understand you. You have a culprit, what more do you want?
Florian: To prevent that they agree on their future declarations. The investigation isn't closed.
Thomas: Romain has been the victim of a homophobic attack and he needs the support of the man who raised him. That's it.
Florian: Already, he complains because it's certainly not his uncle, who will sympathize.
Thomas: That, we don't know. Let them a chance to find themselves.
Florian: I just told you it wasn't possible. I must respect the procedure.
Thomas: Florian, I don't recognize you. Before you were able to listen to your heart.
Florian: It's not you, yesterday, who reproached me my finer feelings?
Thomas: It's not that you reserve your sympathy to the victims? Well in this story Romain is a victim is drowning.
Florian: You should be careful Thomas. Clement Lefur was your age. I think Romain is attracted to older men than himself. And I feel that it becomes reciprocal.
Thomas: Well, okay. You're not gonna start with that?
Florian: I warn you. That's it.
Thomas: Thanks for the tip.

Scene 3

Sebastien: But what you're doing?
Romain: No it's nothing. I came to basketball. It's nothing.
Sebastien: I was hoping you would not be allowed to come. I have so shame that you see me here.
Romain: Well, listen. I need to talk.
Sebastien: Romain, I give you my word that I was going to return to you the money which I took you
Romain: I know. I don't want to talk about that. Why you're accused yourself of the murder?
Sebastien: That's my business.
Romain: It's because of me, right? This is because the judge he was accusing me? Tell me. I need to know.
Sebastien: I couldn't stand that one suspect you. I wanted people to leave you alone.
Romain: Yeah, total, you're in jail and I'm at home of minor (DDASS).
Sebastien: I swore on the grave of your father to protect you. With regard to your interests, it's true, I was underneath it all. But there I could act.
Romain: It's the judge. He hath handled you. He did the same thing with me. He told me only shit about you.
Sebastien: Like what?
Romain: He said you paid a girl to make disgusting pictures with Lefur. But he bluffed, I know. He tried to make me crack.
Sebastien: I told you I had to protect you.
Romain: What does it mean that? That means that it's true?
Sebastien: I had no choice Romain. Clement played with you, with your fragility but you aren't like that.
Romain: It's not possible. You didn't know.
Sebastien: Yes, yes, I stumbled upon one of your messages.
Romain: It's you who sent these photos on my phone?
Sebastien: Clement saw that you were a little lost, so he tried to convince you that you were like him.
Romain: Shut up, I beg you, Shut up.
Sebastien: At your age, we ask all sorts of questions, we didn't make true choices yet. But you're a normal boy.
Romain: But you talk about it as if it were a disease.
Sebastien: That is a perversion. Your father was like all the men of the family. He was manly. You cannot be anything else or you'll kill him again.

Scene 4

Sybille: Romain, okay?
Romain: I need you.
Sybille: You sure you okay? You look all weird.
Romain: We don't care. Listen to me.
Sybille: No, I listen to me. You know, Matteo is a big asshole.
Romain: Listen, shit. Do you think I can change myself?
Sybille: I don't understand your question.
Romain: Is what I can be like the others?
Sybille: Like the others, but you mean stupid like Matteo or shy (complexed) as Abdel?
Romain: Please Sybille, Help me. I don't want to be a f*g. I want to be a normal guy, I want to get interested in girls, to have a girlfriend, you know.
Sybille: But you are normal. You're right to be what you want.
Romain: But no. I give shame to my uncle, to my father.
Sybille: Romain, you are delirious. Your father, he's gone.
Romain: Please, kiss me, glue yourself to me, fondling me. I just want to know what it's for real.
Sybille: I can't.
Romain: Whore, I ask you a service. Shit.
Sybille: But stop. Whore. You're sick.
Romain: Sorry, I'm horrible.

Scene 5

Roland: Hey, I saw returning Romain at you home one hour ago. You gave him the keys?
Thomas: Yes. He was attacked because he's gay then yes, if he wants, he sleeps at home.
Roland: Oh. I don't know. It goes well?
Thomas: No.
Roland: Take care of yourself anyway.
Thomas: I don't understand.
Roland: Well, you just break with Florian, you're fragile you too.
Thomas: Dad, I don't see the connection.
Roland: Well, listen. This boy is more or less linked to stories of murder. So I'm worried about you. It's all.
Thomas: Me, it's for him that I worry.
Roland: Well, I hope you know what you do.
Thomas: Don't worry Dad. Go, good night. Romain. Romain. Romain.

[rtgtx]

Thank you for your hard work, Kisara. I find the dialogues in this part of Oct 14 really great. Translations really help the viewers appreciate the show more.

I especially liked the little talk between Thomas and Roland at the end. A very nice portrait of their father-son relationship.

[kisara20]

Episode of 15/18 October 2010



Scene 1

Thomas: How do you feel?
Romain: But shit, why you called the rescue?
Thomas: You honestly thought that I would let you die?
Romain: That's what I wanted.
Thomas: I don't think, no.
Romain: You don't understand. For you, it's easy to be gay. For me, it's just not possible.
Thomas: Romain, it's normal what have these feelings. You just had a disgusting assault.
Romain: It's not that.
Thomas: What then?
Romain: That's my uncle. He is ashamed of me. I disappointed him.
Thomas: It's that he told you?
Romain: Not like that but it's the same. He raised me, loved like a son, you see. I can't do that to him. I have only him, me.
Thomas: I think rather that you're unhappy because you lost your uncle you loved.
Romain: He understood me at least him. I don't need to cheat. I miss him. I miss him. Grandma?

Scene 2

Aline (Grandmother Romain): My darling, you made me one of those scary.
Romain: It's home of minor(hearth) which prevented you?
Aline: I just went down the plane.
Romain: That's cool that you are here Grandma.
Aline: But what did you took to try to end your days? if it had happened to you a few things, it would have killed me. There you've thought it?
Romain: No. I thought not.
Aline: You promise never to repeat? I've already lost your father, I have only you.
Romain: There is also Sebastien.
Aline: Yes, yes there is Sebastien. I always knew that he was unable to be your guardian. He is barely able to manage himself. So ...
Romain: Stop talking about it, please.
Aline: I see, my darling. So you in the hospital, him in jail ... The results are miserable.
Thomas: Excuse me. I think Romain is very close to his uncle.
Aline: Oh, with all that, we wasn't presented. You are?
Thomas: Thomas Marci. A friend of Romain.
Aline: Yes, I see. It was you who alerted the rescue?
Thomas: Yes.
Aline: I thank you.

Scene 3

Romain: So? How do you like?
Thomas: Well, very nice. Uh, I'll go.
Romain: Wait. You don't want a drink?
Thomas: What are you looking here? You make me come here so I know your apartment and you told me that your uncle will be released today.
Romain: Wait, I live here. I can invite who I want.
Thomas: Okay, but I'm gay, know your uncle and he will take it very badly.
Romain: it will make him maybe not fun but, you and I, we get along well. We will continue to see itself, eh?
Thomas: Yes, certainly.
Romain: Well, as much as he's done there.
Thomas: Listen, Romain. Your uncle didn't hesitate to make sleazy pictures. He's determined to stop you from living as you see fit.
Romain: You've said yourself after my TS (attempted suicide), too bad he doesn't understand.
Thomas: Yes but now you provokes him by bringing me here. It's infantile.
Romain: Oh, uh, too late.
Thomas: Hello.
Romain: I'm glad you're back. There was Thomas who kept me company. You know, he was really present lately.
Sebastien: Now it's no longer necessary now that I'm here.
Thomas: Well, I see that I'm not welcome. I'll let you.
Sebastien: it would be better, indeed.

Scene 4

Sebastien: Oh, I feel better. I'll take you dine out tonight?
Romain: Why you spoke to him like that in Thomas? He saves my life and you, you don't even say him thank you.
Sebastien: Yes. You're right. I was surprised to find him here.
Romain: Wait, if I can't invite my buddies over there, it must be said immediately.
Sebastien: Wait, you call that a buddy? He has at least 10 years older than you.
Romain: I don't see the connection.
Sebastien: You really think it's your friendship that he seeks?
Romain: But he seeks nothing. You don't see that it was I who needed him?
Sebastien: He wants you to believe that because he is clever.
Romain: Okay. It's like Clement. You'll make him what to him?
Sebastien: Listen, I acknowledge that I have bad acts by ordering these pictures. I've done you wrong and I regret it. Believe me.
Romain: It was the goal, however, isn't it?
Sebastien: No. The goal was to raise you as your father would have done had he lived.
Romain: We don't know what he would have done.
Sebastien: Me, I know it. He talked all the time. He was inexhaustible on you and so proud to have a son.
Romain: He said what?
Sebastien: That you'd be the brightest of the family. His dream was to convey to you his values and deeply despised men like Thomas and Clement. Believe me.

[kisara20]

Episode of October 19th, 2010



Scene 1

Sebastien: I can talk you?
Thomas: Yes.
Sebastien: I was rude yesterday. I didn't thank whereas without you, Romain might be gone.
Thomas: Anyone would have done the same thing for me, right?
Sébastien: Romain is in crisis and I did a lot of trouble for him.
Thomas: We must trust him. He'll find his bearings.
Sebastien: For that, he needs to know where he's. Therefore I ask you not to see him for some time.
Thomas: Why?
Sebastien: You disturb. He identifies with you, finally, he's not ...
Thomas: He's not what?
Sebastien: He doesn't share your tendencies.
Thomas: He fell in love with Clement Lefur. It's nothing for you, that?
Sebastien: But it's not serious, finally. He's confused, he doesn't understand how he feels.
Thomas: He knows where he is, instead. He just needs to assume.
Sebastien: It's people like you who put him these ideas in his head.
Thomas: You refuse to see the truth in the face, Mr. Blanchard. Let it exist. He made a suicide attempt. Do you want that he starts again?
Sebastien: I will not stoop to discuss longer that with you. I forbid you to see my nephew. Is that clear?

Scene 2

Sybille: There is someone? Well then, how are you doing? You have made us afraid.
Romain: I wanted to finish some. I went super bad.
Sybille: Damn. But Romain, I told you that if you had a problem you could call me, I'm here.
Romain: Yes, but in these time, you want to be alone, you want to talk to anyone.
Sybille: Well yes. I understand. Well, I know that last year, had I not had my friends and well I would have touched bottom. Well, how do you feel? You won't start it again?
Romain: No no. When I left the hospital I realized that I wanted to live, you see. But we won't let me do.
Sybille: I don't understand.
Romain: That's my uncle. He keeps telling me about my father, told me he was a great guy, he couldn't bear to have a gay son.
Sybille: No, but it's anything that.
Matteo: Ooh ooh!
Sybille: No drops. Drops I say you. He awaits only that. Well continue. You talked about your uncle.
Romain: Yeah. He said that at my age, you didn't even choice, we aren't sure of our sexuality and everything.
Sybille: But anything. It must that you listen yourself, that you listen what you feel.
Romain: You've never been attracted to a girl, you?
Sybille: No. Well, no, you see, he lie you, your uncle.
Romain: Can I ask you a favor?
Sybille: Well, if it's for you touch me the breasts like last week ...
Romain: No, that's not it. I think I'm in love with a guy.
Sybille: It's great. That's cool. It reciprocal?
Romain: I don't know exactly. I would love to go see him tonight but my uncle, he never let me out.
Sybille: Well, go ahead. You want me to do what?

Scene 3

Romain: Oh and I didn't hear back, then.
Sebastien: No, that's me. I didn't know you had company.
Romain: No no, wait. We just stopped to eat quickly. I made a pizza.
Sebastien: Oh, you did well, you're right. Yes. Sebastien, I think we know each other.
Sybille: Well, yes yes. We have already seen ourself. And then, Romain me a lot about you. It's Sybille.
Sébastien: Okay. Well, I'm going to lunch alone in the kitchen.
Romain: No wait. We wanted to go to the cinema after school.
Sebastien: Oh yes, of course, of course.
Romain: Oh no. It's good. I have the money grandma. Okay.
Sebastien: As you wish.
Sybille: And, uh, finally, with Romain we said he could come and eat at my house tonight and then sleep.
Sebastien: Uh, why not but your parents know?
Sybille: Yes, my father agreed. You can call if you want.
Sebastien: No no. It's not necessary. That is understood.
Sybille: Cool. Well, I clean and we go there?
Sebastien: She's cute. It's your girlfriend? You've known her for a long time?
Romain: What are those issues? it does not concern you, this.
Sybille: that's it.
Romain: Well, well bye.
Sebastien: Bye.
Sybille: See you soon.

Scene 4

Thomas: What are you doing here?
Florian: What a welcome. I forgot my business and forgot to return you my keys the other day.
Thomas: Okay.
Florian: You'll need it, right? I understand that the small Blanchard lives with you.
Thomas: No. Who told you that?
Florian: No but I know he made a suicide attempt when he was all alone here. So I conclude that ...
Thomas: Well you're wrong. Now if you could hurry to do your business.
Florian: Why? You wait someone?
Thomas: I want to stay quiet at home. It's possible that?
Florian: But why are you talking me like that? If we are no longer together, we can stay friends.
Thomas: One day perhaps, but now it's too early. You know it very well.
Florian: No. Why?
Thomas: Why? Because you have difficult to accept our break because you still have feelings for me and I don't want that you make you illusions. That's why.
Florian: Don't worry. I lost all hope that it gets better. From the moment you're attracted to someone else.
Thomas: You see. It's stronger than you. Worry not care to discuss with me. Anything that interests you is to know. It's all.
Florian: Why do you put yourself in this state there? If it's not true, you got to tell me.
Thomas: It's none of your business.
Florian: You're attracted by the small Blanchard or not?
Thomas: I don't have to answer such questions. Now you're fired.
Thomas: Okay. I have my answer.

Scene 5

Romain: I bothering you?
Thomas: No, enter. That doesn't go?
Romain: Yes. Okay, okay. I need to see you.
Thomas: Your uncle, he won't worry?
Romain: No, I told him a whopper.
Thomas: Romain, he went this morning at the bar. He forbade me to see you.
Romain: You're going to do it?
Thomas: I don't have your age. I have the right to disobey.
Romain: Serve me hardly. I need you.
Thomas: Romain, what are you doing?
Romain: I don't want that we separate us. I'm in love with you.
Thomas: No, no. You loved Clement. You miss him and just tries you to replace him. It's all.
Romain: No no. I know what I feel. I don't please you? Say it and I'm go away.
Thomas: This is not the issue.
Romain: I you like then?
Thomas: No. Go. I ask you that. Go.

[kisara20]

Episode of november 20th, 2010



Scene 1

Sybille: Hello.
Sébastien: Romain isn't with you?
Sybille: Well yes. Finally, no. Not all. He's in high school actually.
Sebastien: Without you?
Sybille: Pooh no, because I started later.
Sébastien: And you had a good time?
Sybille: Too much. Really a super nice evening. Thank you very much but I gotta go because I'll be late.
Melanie: Wait Sybille. Your phone. You've forgotten on the table.
Sebastien: Hi. I wanted to thank you for Romain.
Melanie: thank me for what? Besides, how is he?
Sybille: But Melanie. You're stupid. Land a little. He has stayed with me. Yes, we spent all night in my room.
Melanie: Sure. As I returned late from work, I've not seen you.
Sebastien: Don't worry. I understood. He didn't sleep with you.

Scene 2

Thomas: You take coffee in the morning or do you want that I make you something else?
Romain: I take like you. Hey, you don't want to go walk on the edge of the sea?
Thomas: You've not school, you?
Romain: Yes, but I don't care.
Thomas: Not me. And then I work, imagine that.
Sebastien: Open. Open, I know that Romain is here.
Thomas: Hide you in the bathroom.
Romain: I'll talk to him. He doesn't scare me. I swear.
Thomas: Romain, wouldn't aggravate things. Do what I say. Okay? What do you want?
Sébastien: Let me enter.
Thomas: You could, I'm home.
Sebastien: I know he's here.
Thomas: Yes, he's in the shower.
Sebastien: Bastard. I'll go see the cops and I'll busted you for corruption of a minor.
Thomas: I remind you, sir, that the sexual majority in France is 15 years and that Romain was quite agreeing.
Sebastien: You put that kid in your bed and you find that normal. Oh you disgust me.
Thomas: Romain is no longer a kid. He knows what he wants.
Sebastien: You indoctrinated him. People like you are an immoral, unscrupulous.
Romain: What does that mean people like him?
Sebastien: Don't meddle in it. Come on. Let's go.
Romain: Answer me whore. What does that mean? Gay, but that's exactly what I am. I have no shame.
Sebastien: Don't say anything.
Romain: But why do you refuse to understand? He'll have you begin to accept myself as I am, damn.
Sebastien: That is false. Shut up.
Romain: Whore, you have ever tried to screw up my life with these disgusting pictures. I won't let you start over.

Scene 3

Thomas: It's necessary that you make the share of the things in what say you your uncle. He have hard to accept because he feels responsible of you. It's all.
Romain: I'm very proud to have held him head. I never done this before.
Thomas: No, but it's great that you assert yourself. Just try to be a little more diplomatic. Try not too provoke him.
Romain: You defend him now.
Thomas: No. I just try to calm the game. It's your uncle, you love him and you will suffer as much as him if you are angry for good.
Romain: Well, we stop talking about him. Ok? You know, I think I've never felt this good in my life.
Thomas: Well it must be true because I've never seen him smile like that.
Romain: Because I love you, that. I want everyone to know.
Thomas: Romain, it's not too early to use such a word?
Romain: But no. I love you, I know.
Thomas: But you loved Clement, too?
Romain: Yes, but Clement wasn't the same. If I loved him as much as you I would have taken the plunge with him.
Thomas: What do you mean?
Romain: Wel, Clement and I were together, we kissed, we has appreciated us. You see. But I never slept with him.
Thomas: Romain, you told me he was your guy.
Romain: Well yes. It was my guy. I was afraid to make love and him that didn't disturb him to wait until I'm ready.
Thomas: Actually, you're telling me that tonight was the first time.
Romain: I know why I didn't do so with Clement? It's because I waited you in fact.

Scene 4

Sébastien: Romain. Romain. Come, come, I must speak to you.
Romain: It's good. We were all said this morning, no?
Sebastien: I will try to understand you but for that, you must listen to me.
Romain: Ok. What you mean to me?
Sebastien: I know what I did wrong?
Romain: You see. You start again, there.
Sebastien: Look, I'm sincere, Romain. I tried to raise you as your father would have done. I loved you, I have cherished you ...
Romain: I know that. It has nothing to do.
Sebastien: Yes. Exactly. I must have missed something, I had missed somewhere.
Romain: Because I'm gay?
Sebastien: I may not be able to replace the father that you lost. All these men that you frequent is a bit like surrogate fathers.
Romain: But it's not true. You'd rather invent anything rather than admit that your nephew is a f*g.
Sebastien: But why you say that word? You want to shock me, it's that?
Romain: If it shocks you, it's your problem, that.
Sebastien: Yeah, I can see the influence of your associates. So it's your life plan? Become so depraved that Thomas Marci?
Romain: I forbid you to talk about him like that. You don't even happen to his ankle, you.
Sebastien: You did nothing at forbid me. If you think I'm going to let this bastard destroy what I did for you.
Romain: But what you made, you, except for pricking in the case and stealing me my money?
Sebastien: Shut up.
Romain: No, I won't shut up. You are only a small swindler of shit. That's what you're.

There.
The next sub-titles, this will not be until Wednesday night.
Bye.

[kisara20]

I wanted to put a few lines about life after death Florian, how Thomas saw the situation.

Episode 3 November

Roland comes to see Thomas who told him he will get his shift. Roland says he's not obliged to hide his sorrow. Thomas says he grits his teeth to remain worthy. Thomas doesn't want to go to the funeral of Florian but Roland think he should go at least for Elodie. Thomas sees Djawad passing lane and run to find him, think it's his fault if Florian is dead. He shouldn't have assembled this plan concerning the photographs with Asia and Clément. Djawad didn't want that and he regrets it. Roland comes between them. Roland asks Luna to try to convince Thomas to go to the funeral. Luna and Blanche think he feels responsible and he doesn't feel capable of coping with distress Elodie. Djawad blames himself for what happened. He doesn't understand why Estelle stays with him. She accuses him of thinking only of his while she was sorry for Florian. Luna tries to persuade Thomas to attend the funeral of Florence. But he admits to not having the courage, we'll look like a monster: he left Florian for a kid. Elodie will blame him. Luna asked if, before dying, Florian told him about Elodie. Thomas confirms, Florian asked him to look after her. Luna said that in this case he's forced to go to the funeral and be with Elodie to respect the last wishes of Florian. Thomas agrees.

Episode 8 November

Thomas explains to Luna how happened Florian's funeral. He could barely see Elodie because Nathalie disagreed: she has put everything on the back. He, by cons forbidden himself to feel responsible because it would serve no purpose and that wouldn't make return him.

Episode 15 November

Thomas asks to Mirta why the last day he met Luna, who was returning to Brazil. He wonders what happens. Mirta says she is part deal with the estate of Vadim. Thomas replied that it must not be obvious to revisit places where she has memories with Vadim, he knows whereof he speaks. Mirta understands that he speaks of Florian and thinks he should leave a few days to change the ideas but he refuses to brood over his troubles alone, it would be worse under him.

Sybille find that Thomas is depressed. She advised him to go to the other side of the world to see new things but he says he's well there.

Episode 24 November

Victoire asks Thomas, a glass of white wine at the bar, and asks if he is already out with a married man, his face darkens and dies out. He said yes, Victoire him ask some council, Thomas don't knows answer, he also takes a glass and serve himself, at the end she asks him what he did and then he says "he left his wife and daughter and we lived together two years" and he has drank half his glass wins, Victoire apologizes... and he finish the end of his glass.

[kisara20]

Episode dated 21 October 2010.



Scene 1

Sebastien: Wait Romain. Wait. I will accompany you in high school.
Romain: No no. It's not necessary. It's good.
Sebastien: But yes yes yes. I'll go get you. You finish what time?
Romain: Are you kidding here or what? I'm anymore 10 years old, me.
Sébastien: I'm not asking your opinion. Now I intend to watch you closely.
Romain: You have no right to do that. I do what I want.
Sebastien: Yes, when you're major, perhaps. For now, you're still under my responsibility.
Romain: Because you believe that while supervising me, you will prevent me from living my life, right?
Sebastien: Spare me this vocabulary of Fotonovela. What do you know of life? Nothing.
Romain: And you? You know nothing of gay life. That doesn't stop you from spitting them above.
Sebastien: It's for your own good, Romain. You'll thank me later. I want only your happiness.
Romain: But if that were true, you wouldn't have done all this crap to separate myself from Clement. And then, you would not feck (steal) into my money also.
Sébastien: And you expect to sway me that every day in his face? But your father would have collapsed to see your behavior.
Romain: Do you think he would appreciate that you're swindled his son?
Sebastien: Oh, if you mention that again ...
Romain: You're gonna do what? To slap me like yesterday? Go ahead.

Scene 2

Thomas: Don't you provoke him. I've already said you.
Romain: You don't realize, you? He said he could watch me until my majority.
Thomas: Unfortunately it has the law on his side. He's still your legal guardian.
Romain: I don't care about the law. I don't want he spoils our history, ok?
Thomas: Well, Romain. Calm yourself and try to think without antagonizing you.
Romain: It's good. It's all reflected. I can't live there. I from go away.
Thomas: To go where?
Romain: I don't know. I might come at you home, no. That way, we wouldn't be left any more. What is there? You don't want me?
Thomas: I can't, Romain.
Romain: But damn, why? You told me you were over with your judge?
Thomas: Okay, but if you just live under the same roof as me, I could be accused of statutory rape even if you're agreeing.
Romain: You don't love me like I love you if you take a risk.
Thomas: Romain, you hardly know me. You don't even know if you really love me.
Romain: I don't need to know you more. I know what I feel, right?
Thomas: Romain, if you come live here, your uncle will be complaining. I'm going to jail and you find a home of minor. That's what you want?
Romain: Damn, what we gonna do?
Thomas: We will be patient, okay? In less than six months, you are major. And then, one may see from time to time. As a friend.
Romain: You're not my friend. You're my guy.
Thomas: Romain, try to figure out.
Romain: I understand. It was not the sorrow to sleep with me if it was to release me like an old shit the following day.
Thomas: Romain …

Scene 3

Thomas: I'm sure I tried to explain him. He thought I didn't want him. He left upset.
Melanie: Yes, but at his age, feeling it's all or nothing, Thomas.
Thomas: Yes. He says he loves me, he never loved like that and I'm the man of her life.
Melanie: And you, you believe there?
Thomas: Well, he believes it anyway and even though he said the same about Clement Lefur there not that long ago, pooh yes.
Melanie: Me, in my opinion, he is in love with love as much ado, whatever.
Thomas: Wait Melanie. It's touching to arouse such passion. For him, our history is so obvious, so simple.
Melanie: In the same time, Roman is not a simple man. I would say he's disturbed.
Thomas: Yes, but precisely. That's why I hate not having found the right words this morning.
Melanie: No. You have say what it was necessary to say.
Thomas: No, Melanie. Romain is someone super sensitive. He's always with sharp.
Mélanie: Inevitably, after what happened. If you were able to avoid sleeping with him, it would have been simpler.
Thomas: No, but wait. You think it was deliberate? It arrived like that. I couldn't done nothing.
Melanie: Yes, but you're still the most mature of the two in this story, right?
Thomas: However I have anything control. He fell into my arms, he kissed me. True, I couldn't resist.
Melanie: Soon you'll say it's his fault.
Thomas: There is no fault. I didn't even seem to have hurt.
Melanie: I'm not saying that. Well, listen. He's too young for you, Thomas. You shouldn't be getting yourself in this story, no kidding.
Thomas: Wait, you say the same thing for a girl? How many guys fucks girls of 18 year old. It doesn't shock anyone.
Melanie: The girls in general, they mature earlier. And Romain is completely lost. Stop. Finally, you should forget him because he will make you suffer.
Thomas: Too late. Do you believe that I can forget feelings like that, by banging fingers? What?
Melanie: You're no one.

Scene 4

Sebastien: Blanche. I waited you.
Blanche: I heard that you'd been exonerated. I'm happy for you.
Sebastien: Yes, finally you see I'm not as bad as you imagined.
Blanche: I've wrongly accused you. I'm sorry.
Sebastien: I agree that everything was against me. If you have nothing planned tonight, I wish we dine together.
Blanche: I don't prefer.
Sebastien: Even between friends? What you got? Tell me.
Blanche: What you did to Romain, this plot to smear the man he loved, I find it unacceptable.
Sébastien: I'm not proud but I wanted to get out Romain of this unhealthy relationship.
Blanche: How could you inflict such pain when you raised him, as you claim to love him?
Sebastien: It's easy to judge. What would have you done, you, if you learned that your oldest son liked men?
Blanche: I don't know. I would have spoken about it with him. I'd never interfered in his privacy.
Sebastien: For me, everything collapsed of a sudden. I was afraid. I was thinking about his future. No wife, no children, living in margins.
Blanche: What do you know? You judge, you decide, but it's his life, not yours.
Sebastien: I know I crossed the line. Romain hates me now and will never forgive me.
Blanche: It's hard being a parent. We are hoped some way for our children and then themselves, they choose another. But what matters is that they are happy. Don't you think?
Sébastien: Romain, I raised him myself. I would have surely missed a woman by my side. She would have moderate, would have helped me to accept and understand.
Blanche: If you change your attitude with him, if you explain what you're telling me, I'm sure he will forgive you.
Sebastien: It felt good to talk with you. You really don't want we dine together?
Blanche: At the restaurant then. Not at my home.
Sebastien: That was my idea.

Scene 5

Thomas: It was nice to spend the afternoon together. Finally, I mean outside of work. Obviously.
Melanie: Well yeah. Roland should engage more often hired waiters.
Thomas: Well you know, I like to make a little cut like that in the week. I feel like skipping school.
Melanie: Yeah but with all that, we have not even eaten. You want to eat at home? We have the full fridge.
Thomas: I'm not very hungry. I think I'm going to bed directly.
Melanie: Oh, that, that means you're in love.
Thomas: I don't see the connection.
Melanie: Well, you're not hungry, you want to be alone to be able to daydreaming. It's signs that don't lie, Thomas.
Thomas: Well, it's true. I have feelings for Romain but I'm not in love.
Melanie: I hope for you. Okay, go. I leave you. Good night.
Thomas: Don't worry. Bye.

[rtgtx]

Thanks Kisara! The subs are up now.

The dialogues are really good. The one between Thomas and Melanie and the one between Blanche and Sebastien, so good. We would have missed so many good stuffs if we didn't have your help. Thanks Kisara. :*

PS: I must say the show really did a good job in the development of this plot revolving around Romain, fast-paced yet tightly woven, a perfect blend of suspense and drama. Movie quality.

[kisara20]

Episode dated 22 October 2010



Scene 1

Leo: Hold.
Thomas: Thank you.
Leo: Did you check well if one nothing had stolen you at home?
Thomas: Yes, of course.
Leo: I guess there has been effraction?
Thomas: No. Strangely not. At the same time, I'm not sure I give it a turn-key starting.
Leo: Well it would be nice you know.
Thomas: I do not know. I may be done mechanically, but I think I slammed the door like that.
Leo: So, a guy broke into your house, he's masked, he doesn't rob you.
Thomas: Well, it did not come to that. He had come to demolish me.
Leo: Who can blame you at this point? Got an idea?
Thomas: Listen Leo. They are not homophobes missing. And this isn't the first time I am attacked in this way.
Leo: Yes, but this type was introduced in your home, he have waited you patiently ... I smell a settling of accounts. So that's why I'll rephrase the question. Do you think of somebody?
Thomas: It's tricky. I would like to don't accuse without proof.
Leo: The evidence is me that it looks. If you have the slightest suspicions, you must hear me about it.
Thomas: Sébastien Blanchard. Say he's not really carry me in his heart.
Leo: Oh yeah? Why? Thomas, I need evidence if I should ask him.
Thomas: Because of his nephew Romain. He took a liking to me and it is reciprocal. His uncle does not support that.
Leo: Do I understand you have a connection with Romain Blanchard?
Thomas: A connection, perhaps not really the word.
Leo: Well, Thomas. We will put things straight line. Your private life outside of this investigation, I don't give a damn. Then, do you sleep together yes or not?
Thomas: Tuesday evening, Romain spent the night at home and in the morning, his uncle landed insane rage.
Leo: He threatened you?
Thomas: No, but he was aggressive. He accused me of perverting his nephew. He forbade me to see him again but then to beat me.
Leo: No, it isn't excluded. He took it to Clement Lefur already. Finally, in another way. But apparently, when it relates to his nephew, Blanchard is capable of any excess.

Scene 2

Sebastien: Sleep well? Hold. I remembered that you loved the pancakes for breakfast.
Romain: You think it will change anything, your idiot pancakes?
Sebastien: I want we spend a pleasant moment. As before.
Romain: Like before? Yes. When you were a good person.
Sebastien: I saw again Blanche yesterday. We talked a lot about you. She made me realize that I had no right to treat you like I do.
Romain: Are you serious here?
Leo: Mr. Blanchard, I have some questions for you.
Sebastien: Again. About what?
Leo: I'll explain to the police.
Sebastien: You can talk. I have nothing to hide.
Leo: As you wish. Where were you last night at 21:30?
Sebastien: I was out. Why?
Leo: Thomas Marci has attacked in his home at that hour.
Romain: Thomas! What does he have? Is it serious?
Leo: No. He gets away with a cracked rib and a few bruises. You haven't answered my question. Where were you?
Sebastien: Oh but it's not true. That isn't going again.
Romain: It's you. I'm sure it's you.
Sebastien: Stop it Romain. What it take you?
Romain: You say you would do anything to separate myself from him. You're a dirty fucking homophobic.
Leo: Let him go. Let him go and follow me.

Scene 3

Florian: I learned what had happened to you. How are you feeling?
Thomas: That's fine.
Florian: You went to spend a X-ray?
Thomas: Yes.
Florian: Oh damn. He does have you missed the bastard. I swear I'll find him and he will pay. It's me who am in charge of the case.
Thomas: No. Please. Give-there to a colleague. I would hate that you meddle in it.
Florian: No, but you kidding or what? I want your abuser to take the maximum.
Thomas: That's mostly what I want to avoid. That you overflow of your role of judge as in the case Mourèze.
Florian: Ok When it comes to me, you reject everything in block. Even my help.
Thomas: You won't start, there. I'm not ready.
Florian: I'll leave you. Your aggression is related to the small Blanchard, I guess?
Thomas: I don't intend to discuss this with you.
Florian: I warned you to beware of this kid and his uncle.
Thomas: You accused a bit faster, no? It could be anyone. Someone who can't stand my life and who want it to me simply.
Florian: It's for me you say that? You suspect me?
Thomas: You become paranoid as well?
Florian: I don't know. You reproach me so much. It was you who left me, it's you want it to me.
Thomas: Because it bothers me that you disembark at my home like that without warning, that you meddle in my affairs. I can't stand. You can understand it?
Florian: It's clear enough. Yes. Take care you.

Scene 4

Roland: What are you doing here? I told you to stay home to rest.
Thomas: Dad, I'm tired of resting. I want to occupy me.
Roland: You can't listen to your father? Be somewhat reasonable for once, right?
Thomas: Okay, go. Go fast. That will cool.
Romain: How are you? I could it more to not know.
Thomas: Don't worry. I'll be fine.
Romain: It's my fault if my uncle hit you like that.
Thomas: Good. First, I don't know who hit me. I haven't seen the face of my attacker.
Romain: But of course it's him. He have it in for you as he had it in for Clement. I hate him for that.
Thomas: Romain, you can't blame people like that without proof.
Romain: I don't want them do unto you from evil.
Thomas: Ouch. I have cracked ribs.
Romain: I am stupid. Damn. It's me who hurts you.
Thomas: You haven't done on purpose. Good, leaves now. I don't prefer that you stay.
Romain: I love you.
Thomas: I'll call you.
Romain: Okay. Goodbye.
Roland: Goodbye yes.
Thomas: No comments, please.
Roland: You don't take me away the idea that he will draw you into trouble that one.

Scène 5

Sybille: It's tough what happened to Thomas. You know who did this to him?
Romain: No. The cops seek.
Sybille: But you have to stop anxiety,there.
Romain: It's my fault.
Sybille: Why do you say that?
Romain: I jinx (I bring bad luck). It's clear.
Sybille: But stop.
Romain: Wait. I loved Clement, he get killed. Now it's Thomas who is assaulted.
Sybille: But you have no right to think that.
Romain: I say that I bring bad luck. It's all.
Sybille: Well, you know what? Thomas, he was attacked by a fat bastard who can't stand f*gs. It's cowardly, it's disgusting and it has nothing to do with you.
Matteo: You talk about the queer of the bar?
Sybille: You, it's not the time. You kick away.
Matteo: It's done well for the face of f*gs. Every time, he has sought it.
Romain: What you said, there?
Sybille: Wait. Stop. Don't you see only he makes purposely?
Matteo: Wait, I'm allowed to say what I think, no?
Sybille: Because you think since when, you? Go away.
Matteo: But wait. If anything, it was a perverse plan between queers, eh? It seems that they like the glaucous tricks, the blows in the face and all that.
Romain: Damn, you want that I try on you, asshole?
Sybille: Romain, stop. Romain. Damn, don't as dumb as him. Come on, that's fine.

Scene 6

Sebastien: I haven't assaulted Thomas Marci.
Florian: But you have good reason to do it.
Sebastien: I was with Blanche Marci at the time of attack. I can give you the name of the restaurant where we were, if you want.
Florian: Yes, I know. You had a perfect alibi. Blanche Marci is your ex girlfriend. Is that correct?
Sebastien: Yes.
Florian: It was you who had this idea of this dinner or it's she?
Sebastien: Me. And what does that make?
Florian: You very well could pay someone to do the dirty work for you and go to dinner with her to help you establish an alibi.
Sebastien: Why I'd taken to Thomas Marci? I don't hardly know him.
Florian: You know that your nephew turns around him and you can't stand it like you can't stand that your son is gay.
Sebastien: I have decided to no longer take care of privacy Romain. Finally, I will try.
Florian: I find it hard to believe. You've tried to separate him from Clement Lefur using methods more than doubtful. If one adds to this malpractice that you are guilty ...
Sebastien: I don't see the connection with what they reproach me.
Florian: Your travel agency has a branch in Edinburgh, I think.
Sebastien: Yes. And then?
Florian: Why not install you over there? Definitely?
Sebastien: Because my life is here and there are Romain.
Florian: And Romain is still a minor so he will follow you. This is an opportunity to protect it.
Sebastien: You want I move away my nephew from Thomas Marci in your own interest?
Florian: It's yours too Mr. Blanchard. Believe me.

Scene 7

Matteo: You spent time, queer. You got what I asked you? 200. You are indeed a queer anyway.
Romain: Good. Good. You have your money then leave me alone.
Matteo: Wait just a things. Why do you pay me to beat your man?
Romain: It's for we accuse my uncle and he left me in peace.

[sylstyle]

Nov 9, 2010 14:22:14 GMT -5 kisara20 said:

Nov 9, 2010 12:07:44 GMT -5 sylstyle said:

Finally able to say what I'm thinking about Florian's death ...
actually his last episode was on the 1st, as we only had 30 seconds of Florian for his last epp ....
Was Thomas still in love with Florian ... IDK, was he sad because he lost a just a friend?? maybe. I have to say after everything Florian did (being unfaithful, and not separating personal from professional life), I completely understand Thomas' POV ...
Now as we know PBLV is full of surprises, but Thomas will have to be single if florian is coming back I want a grown up Florian

Enfn capable de commenter la mort de Florian ... bon en fait son dernier épisode, n'était pas vraiment son dernier épisode, car il est apparu que 30 secondes.
Est-ce que Thomas était encore amoureux de Florian, je ne sais pas, est-ce qu'il a juste perdu un ami, certainement Je dois dire que finalement je peux très bien comprendre Thomas, après tout ce que Florian a fait (tromper Thomas, ne pas savoir séparer vie personnelle et vie professionnelle).
Maintenant avec PBLV qui est toujours plein de surprises, Florian pourra toujours revenir, mais il faudra que Thomas soit célibataire et que Florian soit beaucoup plus mature.

Sylvain

Then my little sylstyle, if you find that florian is immature, it shows that you haven't followed their story from the beginning because question of immaturity thomas breaks all records.
Know that Thomas has always played with the feelings of Florian to get what he wanted to (legally speaking when he or someone he knows had problems with justice and oddly it was her lovers!) And Florian always seeing Thomas as the 8th wonder of the world (this is normal, it was his first guy )....
Moreover, when the deception florian is Thomas who has pushed to have sex with Diego because Mr. couldn't trust him because he thought florian going to make all marseille ..... blah.
Know that Thomas has also cheated with bruno florian basini, a mobster. At that time he has cheated, humiliated, mocked, insulted, angered the whole district against him ... In short, he lowered below ground into believing that everything was his fault. And all for what? To continue his romp with Bruno. He even wanted to elope with him in Italy!
Something else. When her former boyfriend, Nicolas, has returned to the dead, he also slept with him. Heck yeah! Thomas needs to sleep with a guy to know if he loves him or not! And again according to Thomas was the fault of florian and his jealousy!
Moral of the story, with Thomas is "doing what I say but not what I do!"
Sure, florian has always confused life and private life but it must be said that there was always thomas the grown. Florian has spent the last three years to catch up all the crap of thomas, to choose between thomas and his job, to choose between Thomas and his daughter. As if he didn't deserve to have all three at once!
The only thing that could make florian is to love Thomas more than him, his life, more than anything. He loved him like a fool.
As for Thomas, one wonders if he knows what it means to love. I believe more than he likes to be to love, from where his standpoint in the various intrigues with Bruno, Nicolas and Roman lately. is enough that somebody make him a declaration of love burning for what he believes it's the man of his life! Strangely you will notice that these are all repressed gay.

So if you wonder if Thomas still loves florian, for me the answer is yes!
Certainly they were no longer together when florian died but I think Thomas has never stopped loving florian. It was like Bruno and Nicolas, he was in his head that he no longer loved florian but precisely because he loved him he was doing all that. I sometimes felt during those three years that Thomas was a small inferiority complex compared to florian. Florian loved him like crazy, doing everything for him. I think Thomas knows sometimes said he didn't deserve him, which led him to errors such as Bruno and Romain, which led him to reject weeks florian occasions. Thomas is borderline, impulsive but deep inside him, and as he's afraid he won't show it, show her feelings and fears, he shines (have a sudden reaction of refusal), drop everything and everyone, share stories bullshit, bullshit is so ....
This explains the behavior of thomas. And though Thomas said he doesn't feel guilty for the death of Florian, for me it's false. But he's right about one thing: guilt won't return florian. However it's his way of going forward, not to sink into depression even though I think it's going to happen. By dint of denying the obvious, sooner or later it will come out and explode. He will eventually blow a fuse. In other words, "he hides the face," he refuses to see reality. He feels guilty but refuses to show it. This wouldn't be surprised if Thomas ended up going mad then.

But it's only my opinion.

Just to say first of all I think you wrote a fantastic post, I think you're right there. You discribed Thomas very well, IMO. I just meant that he was immature at work, but it's not his fault if the damned writers kept giving him storylines where Thomas is always involved somehow.
In his couple I think he was mature enough, though I'm still angry at the writers giving him that storyline.

Désolé pour mon retard. Je voulais dire que tu as écrit un poste brillant. Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ta description de Thomas. Lorsque je disais que Florian était immature, c'était surtout dans son travail. En plus c'est pas vraiment sa faute lorsqu'on voit que les auteurs ne pouvaient pas s'empêcher de lui donner des storylines où Thomas était toujours d'une manière ou un autre inclus dans ces affaires.
Au sein du couple il était pour moi bien mature, je suis toujours en revanche en colère contre les auteurs delui avoir donné cette storyline ...

Sylvain

[kisara20]

Dec 4, 2010 8:19:24 GMT -5 sylstyle said:

Nov 9, 2010 14:22:14 GMT -5 kisara20 said:

Then my little sylstyle, if you find that florian is immature, it shows that you haven't followed their story from the beginning because question of immaturity thomas breaks all records.
Know that Thomas has always played with the feelings of Florian to get what he wanted to (legally speaking when he or someone he knows had problems with justice and oddly it was her lovers!) And Florian always seeing Thomas as the 8th wonder of the world (this is normal, it was his first guy )....
Moreover, when the deception florian is Thomas who has pushed to have sex with Diego because Mr. couldn't trust him because he thought florian going to make all marseille ..... blah.
Know that Thomas has also cheated with bruno florian basini, a mobster. At that time he has cheated, humiliated, mocked, insulted, angered the whole district against him ... In short, he lowered below ground into believing that everything was his fault. And all for what? To continue his romp with Bruno. He even wanted to elope with him in Italy!
Something else. When her former boyfriend, Nicolas, has returned to the dead, he also slept with him. Heck yeah! Thomas needs to sleep with a guy to know if he loves him or not! And again according to Thomas was the fault of florian and his jealousy!
Moral of the story, with Thomas is "doing what I say but not what I do!"
Sure, florian has always confused life and private life but it must be said that there was always thomas the grown. Florian has spent the last three years to catch up all the crap of thomas, to choose between thomas and his job, to choose between Thomas and his daughter. As if he didn't deserve to have all three at once!
The only thing that could make florian is to love Thomas more than him, his life, more than anything. He loved him like a fool.
As for Thomas, one wonders if he knows what it means to love. I believe more than he likes to be to love, from where his standpoint in the various intrigues with Bruno, Nicolas and Roman lately. is enough that somebody make him a declaration of love burning for what he believes it's the man of his life! Strangely you will notice that these are all repressed gay.

So if you wonder if Thomas still loves florian, for me the answer is yes!
Certainly they were no longer together when florian died but I think Thomas has never stopped loving florian. It was like Bruno and Nicolas, he was in his head that he no longer loved florian but precisely because he loved him he was doing all that. I sometimes felt during those three years that Thomas was a small inferiority complex compared to florian. Florian loved him like crazy, doing everything for him. I think Thomas knows sometimes said he didn't deserve him, which led him to errors such as Bruno and Romain, which led him to reject weeks florian occasions. Thomas is borderline, impulsive but deep inside him, and as he's afraid he won't show it, show her feelings and fears, he shines (have a sudden reaction of refusal), drop everything and everyone, share stories bullshit, bullshit is so ....
This explains the behavior of thomas. And though Thomas said he doesn't feel guilty for the death of Florian, for me it's false. But he's right about one thing: guilt won't return florian. However it's his way of going forward, not to sink into depression even though I think it's going to happen. By dint of denying the obvious, sooner or later it will come out and explode. He will eventually blow a fuse. In other words, "he hides the face," he refuses to see reality. He feels guilty but refuses to show it. This wouldn't be surprised if Thomas ended up going mad then.

But it's only my opinion.

Just to say first of all I think you wrote a fantastic post, I think you're right there. You discribed Thomas very well, IMO. I just meant that he was immature at work, but it's not his fault if the damned writers kept giving him storylines where Thomas is always involved somehow.
In his couple I think he was mature enough, though I'm still angry at the writers giving him that storyline.

Désolé pour mon retard. Je voulais dire que tu as écrit un poste brillant. Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ta description de Thomas. Lorsque je disais que Florian était immature, c'était surtout dans son travail. En plus c'est pas vraiment sa faute lorsqu'on voit que les auteurs ne pouvaient pas s'empêcher de lui donner des storylines où Thomas était toujours d'une manière ou un autre inclus dans ces affaires.
Au sein du couple il était pour moi bien mature, je suis toujours en revanche en colère contre les auteurs delui avoir donné cette storyline ...

Sylvain

Moi aussi.
Mais voilà, dans pblv, pour faire partir un personnage on le détruit dans tous les sens du terme. On détruit son couple, on le rend incapable de faire son boulot correctement, on détruit sa réputation, on lui met tout un quartier contre lui (cf: intrigue bruno basini, nicolas, romain blanchard),.... Bref, le message que ls scénaristes et producteurs nous donnent est : "Vous voyez. On a raison de se débarrasser de lui. Il ne sert à rien, et personne ne l'aime. Pourquoi le garder? Il dégage." Oui mais non. ça ne marche pas comme ça avec nous!
Au contraire; On l'aime encore plus et on veut le revoir illico pesto!
De toute façon, c'est pareil avec tous. Dès qu'un perso s'en va, on le pourri.

Oh et tu ne sais pas la nouvelle? Si Florian est mort c'est pour traiter du thème du deuil avec Thomas! Et que ce sera la première fois avec lui? Et que d'habitude c'est lui qui soutient et écoute les autres mais cette fois-ci, c'est l'inverse. Les autres seront là pour lui?...
Mais Bande d'imbécile heureux! Thomas a déjà fait deux fois son deuil. Avec Nicolas son ex et Carole sa mère adoptive! Ils ont la mémoire courte!


Me too.
But now, in pblv, to make leave a character they destroys it in every sense of the term. They destroyed his marriage, they are rendered incapable of his job properly, we destroy his reputation, they sets an entire neighborhood against him (see: plot bruno basini, Nicolas, Romain blanchard ),.... In short, the message of writers and producers provide us with is: "You see. It is right to get rid of him. It is useless, and nobody likes him. Why keep it? It emerges." Yes but no. it doesn't work like that with us!
Instead, We love even more and we want to see him illico pesto!
Anyway, it's the same with everyone. Once a one goes, he's rotten.
Oh and you don't know the news? If Florian is dead it's to treat the theme of mourning with Thomas! And it will be the first time with him? And as usual it is he who supports and listens to others but this time, the opposite. The others will be there for him? ...
But morons happy! Thomas has already done twice mourning. Nicolas with his ex and her adoptive mother, Carole! They have short memories!

[sylstyle]

That's ridiculous, since when isn't Thomas getting used to mourn
Every 3 years he's losing somebody. I even wonder how laurent can even stay in the show if he knows that every 3 years is character is going to suffer and being single

C'est ridicule, depuis quand Thomas ne sait pas ce que veut dire le deuil ??
Tous les 3 ans il perd son copain, Je me demande comment fait Laurent pour rester, alors que tous les 3 ans il va souffrir et se retrouver seul ...

Sylvain