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Post by ag on Mar 18, 2019 18:17:35 GMT -5
lol TERFS are saving people from trans people just like antivaxers are saving babies from autism and tinfoil hatters are saving people from government mind control.
Anyways I'd be down to watch that story line. Maybe people who wouldn't just shouldn't watch
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Post by grallonsphere on Mar 18, 2019 18:37:51 GMT -5
See this is the technique these trans and their fans use - abuse you for debating -refuse to engage - refuse to argue - refuse to even read it’s pathetic and I think you’re vacuous silly airheads
No Dave, they're a great deal worse than that: they're self-righteous. When you are convinced you possess the Truth(TM) you don't engage, or argue, or read. Instead, what you do is try to silence the dissenters. They just don't have the numbers to swarm here like they do elsewhere.
Well, at least we still have OG and SKAM France (although I have growing concerns about that one) depicting meaningful and mostly accurate stories of and for young gay males. The rest of the remakes have already surrendered to the Progressive cult.
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Post by Zathras on Mar 18, 2019 23:47:14 GMT -5
I've temporarily locked this thread while I sort out what's going on. I will not hesitate to ban bad actors.
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Post by Zathras on Mar 19, 2019 23:15:46 GMT -5
Apparently I need to remind people of one of the most important rules of this forum: Be respectfulWhatever your opinion on the discussion may be, if you're not going to bother respecting others then this isn't the place for you. I'm still working through the mess. I don't want to keep the discussion closed very long considering that there's good stuff to discuss. But I don't want it to go completely off the rails again. |
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Post by Zathras on Mar 24, 2019 23:28:35 GMT -5
I've decided to unlock this thread. As I said several days ago: be respectful. I get that there are valid concerns regarding representation of gay men in entertainment, and that is a valid conversation to have (although the Off-topic area is a more appropriate location). But overt hostility directed toward other members will not be tolerated. Going forward: Keep the discussion here centered on the shows. Don't engage in general political discussion.For the time being, I think it's best to avoid discussion of the German version (Druck?). As always, I'm okay with constructive conversation but I will cut it short if necessary. I'll point everyone to the board rules again: gaydaytime.proboards.com/thread/15/board-rules-policies |
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Post by crissy on Mar 25, 2019 14:56:37 GMT -5
I really like the way Skam France handled the minute by minute part, It seems more realistic than the original version.
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Post by kellerbrady on Mar 25, 2019 19:48:50 GMT -5
I really like the way Skam France handled the minute by minute part, It seems more realistic than the original version. How was it? |
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Mar 26, 2019 4:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by crissy on Mar 26, 2019 4:38:43 GMT -5
I really like the way Skam France handled the minute by minute part, It seems more realistic than the original version. How was it?[/quote This is the last clip from Monday youtu.be/Luy05cO8G7Q |
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Post by crissy on Mar 26, 2019 4:45:29 GMT -5
I think the fact they waited until Monday and they give more details about what a bipolar person might go through, makes the whole thing more realistic.
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Post by justinate on Mar 27, 2019 9:07:32 GMT -5
Is this the last week of Skam France (season 3)? It seems to be wrapping up. I wonder if the story will carry over to season 4 - they showed a hint that Iman already knows Elliott (via her brother).
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Post by grallonsphere on Mar 27, 2019 16:35:01 GMT -5
Is this the last week of Skam France (season 3)? It seems to be wrapping up. I wonder if the story will carry over to season 4 - they showed a hint that Iman already knows Elliott (via her brother).
Hopefully they will correct the mess that was Even's backstory in OG S4. And they didn't show us this overt hint if there wasn't any more content about Elliot.
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Mar 28, 2019 6:17:20 GMT -5
Post by kevvoi on Mar 28, 2019 6:17:20 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 28, 2019 6:59:59 GMT -5
What Skam Spain did to Lucas is unforgivable. I will boycott the show. Erasing a gay character is NOT OK.
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Mar 28, 2019 10:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by crissy on Mar 28, 2019 10:12:54 GMT -5
Alejandro also says that he relates to Lucas on many levels. Actually, the actor used to have a YouTube Channel and came out on a video. ( He deleted all his vídeos). |
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Mar 28, 2019 20:54:09 GMT -5
Post by scmian on Mar 28, 2019 20:54:09 GMT -5
Is this the last week of Skam France (season 3)? It seems to be wrapping up. I wonder if the story will carry over to season 4 - they showed a hint that Iman already knows Elliott (via her brother). Lucas and Elliott will be in season 4. Not sure what the storyline will be for them. |
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Mar 29, 2019 1:34:17 GMT -5
Post by mizuryuu on Mar 29, 2019 1:34:17 GMT -5
Alejandro also says that he relates to Lucas on many levels. Actually, the actor used to have a YouTube Channel and came out on a video. ( He deleted all his vídeos). Skam Espana: So the actor is gay in real life? That is kinda cool, i guess. Doesn't really excuse what they are doing though. I think I would actually would have preferred if they completely remove the youtube thing. I mean, I get why the Espana writers might want to move the LGBT storyline over to the girl squad, it keep the focus of the show from fragmenting too much, like it did in the original (We all loved original Skam, but it does feel very jarring going from the girl squad to boy squad then back to girl squad). The whole youtube thing just feel like they want to have their cake and eat it too. If they want to keep the focus on the girl squad, keep it on them, and either have Lucas R come out in the background or not at all. Skam France: I like it, but Lucas is being way too dramatic in the newest clip. Is anyone in real life actually that dramatic to cry at every parting? Speaking of crying, i feel like Lucas cries the most out of all of Skam. Thoughts? |
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Mar 29, 2019 7:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by crissy on Mar 29, 2019 7:32:45 GMT -5
Alejandro also says that he relates to Lucas on many levels. Actually, the actor used to have a YouTube Channel and came out on a video. ( He deleted all his vídeos). Skam Espana: So the actor is gay in real life? That is kinda cool, i guess. Doesn't really excuse what they are doing though. I think I would actually would have preferred if they completely remove the youtube thing. I mean, I get why the Espana writers might want to move the LGBT storyline over to the girl squad, it keep the focus of the show from fragmenting too much, like it did in the original (We all loved original Skam, but it does feel very jarring going from the girl squad to boy squad then back to girl squad). The whole youtube thing just feel like they want to have their cake and eat it too. If they want to keep the focus on the girl squad, keep it on them, and either have Lucas R come out in the background or not at all. Skam France: I like it, but Lucas is being way too dramatic in the newest clip. Is anyone in real life actually that dramatic to cry at every parting? Speaking of crying, i feel like Lucas cries the most out of all of Skam. Thoughts? I read that , although Skam España's second season is going to focus on Cris, secondary plots gain importance and we may see more of Lucas and other characters than in season one. |
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Mar 30, 2019 7:42:00 GMT -5
Post by jjose712 on Mar 30, 2019 7:42:00 GMT -5
It's curious, i lost all my interest after they got together.
I suppose i will watch the rest of the storyline one day
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Post by justinate on Mar 30, 2019 8:55:42 GMT -5
It's curious, i lost all my interest after they got together. I suppose i will watch the rest of the storyline one day I think you're missing out a lot because Skam France is better than all the remakes (by a wide margin) - in fact, I'd go so far as to say it even surpasses the original. They just started airing the 4th season, right after the season 3 finale. I'm not a big fan of season 4 because the central message of it rings false to me (having liberal friends who were ostracised by their community) but, since Skam France did such a good job with season 3, I'm going to give them a chance. Maybe they will turn things around and not give such a heavy-handed, lopsided message. Skam Espana, on the other hand, I'm boycotting. Such a disgrace. I can't adequately convey how much disgust it provokes in me. |
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Mar 30, 2019 11:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by morningsun7 on Mar 30, 2019 11:55:48 GMT -5
Alejandro also says that he relates to Lucas on many levels. Actually, the actor used to have a YouTube Channel and came out on a video. ( He deleted all his vídeos). Skam France: I like it, but Lucas is being way too dramatic in the newest clip. Is anyone in real life actually that dramatic to cry at every parting? Speaking of crying, i feel like Lucas cries the most out of all of Skam. Thoughts? I cried like he did when my gf and i had spent several days together, completely together, after having spent months apart, and before spending some more months apart again. they're not spending that much time apart, but it's his first love, and Elliot has been going through a rough couple of days, i completely relate to his crying. Also, men crying doesn't happen all that often? i feel like especially teenage boys. so well i definitely related and appreciated it. It's curious, i lost all my interest after they got together. I suppose i will watch the rest of the storyline one day I think you're missing out a lot because Skam France is better than all the remakes (by a wide margin) - in fact, I'd go so far as to say it even surpasses the original. They just started airing the 4th season, right after the season 3 finale. I'm not a big fan of season 4 because the central message of it rings false to me (having liberal friends who were ostracised by their community) but, since Skam France did such a good job with season 3, I'm going to give them a chance. Maybe they will turn things around and not give such a heavy-handed, lopsided message. Skam Espana, on the other hand, I'm boycotting. Such a disgrace. I can't adequately convey how much disgust it provokes in me. What's going on with Skam Espana ? I've missed out on a lot of messages here because of the transphobia, and I am not getting news about this show elsewhere. I can't wait to see what happens with Skam France S4, I don't think I've ever seen a show led by such a character in France before. They did really good with Lucas, I'm hoping they do at least as good with Imane. But I'm glad they're not stepping away from her story, I mean, considering racism and islamophobia in france, one could have been afraid they would. |
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Mar 30, 2019 12:56:49 GMT -5
Post by grallonsphere on Mar 30, 2019 12:56:49 GMT -5
I wrote this as my postmortem of SKAM Fr S3 on reddit. ----------
Overall it was a solid adaptation, despite the noticeable slide and weakening characterization in the late episodes. By the end, the writing was pretty thin, and the overindulgence that were the so-called 'iconic' moments marred the whole experience.
Axel Aurient is a promising young actor who would have really shone under a better director. Maxence was good enough for this role, however I do have my doubts about his long term prospects. His range was rather limited. Although, to be fair, it could just be the lack of experience. Still, the difference becomes striking when compared to Henrik Holmes's performance. Which is ironic, considering how the character of Elliott was more intriguing to me than Even ever was. I always found Even shifty and unreliable. It's quite a pity we didn't get to see more of Elliott's perspective. Not a whole season, but it would have been interesting if S3 had been shared between both sides of the Elu ship, rather than just Lucas's POV. I suppose that remake remains to be done.
In the end, the greatest flaw of this version was the lack of balance in the execution. Take Basile's character for instance. Between the first episodes where he annoyed the crap out of pretty much everyone, and the last episodes where he'd been flipped around as if he was a different character. I can only assume the goal was to illustrate the change of heart Daphné went through about him - but the whole side arc was hamfisted and lacked finesse; which pretty much underscores the irritating overdramatization that kept flaring up after the mid-season.
So, all in all and despite the flaws, it was better than S2 of SKAM It, and definitely better than the travesty that is the third season of Druck.
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Mar 30, 2019 13:06:19 GMT -5
Post by justinate on Mar 30, 2019 13:06:19 GMT -5
What's going on with Skam Espana ? I've missed out on a lot of messages here because of the transphobia, and I am not getting news about this show elsewhere. They decided to condense their gay character's story into a couple of short, amateurish, webcam videos on his Youtube channel because they'd already assigned a LGBT character (bi girl) as the principal protagonist of season 2. |
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Post by scmian on Mar 30, 2019 14:27:04 GMT -5
I actually really enjoyed Skam France S3, I thought it was really well done. My only issue was it was to short there could have easily been at least 2 or 3 more episodes.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 30, 2019 16:36:01 GMT -5
What's going on with Skam Espana ? I've missed out on a lot of messages here because of the transphobia, and I am not getting news about this show elsewhere. They decided to condense their gay character's story into a couple of short, amateurish, webcam videos on his Youtube channel because they'd already assigned a LGBT character (bi girl) as the principal protagonist of season 2. You keep saying that again and again but the truth is you don't know it. They changed the order of seasons, and maybe you are right and they won't make a Lucas season, but right now there's absolutely nothing to sustain what you are claiming. It's not like there's no bisexual girls on Skam France Lucas on Skam Spain came out in season one, so what he is doing now is the normal development. Maybe his season will be just a love story without the coming out drama, maybe you are right and they skip a Lucas season, who knows. What we know is Skam Austin changed the gay storyline for a lesbian one and the Elliot on Druck will be a trans character (frankly i would prefer if they do a trans storyline on a straight character season) |
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Mar 30, 2019 18:45:38 GMT -5
Post by uranian on Mar 30, 2019 18:45:38 GMT -5
I don't mind the extra drama in Skam Fr. end of S3. I find the depiction of both Lucas and Elliot to be great, probably better than the original (didn't go back to watch the older show again). I don't think that crying at the prospect of stepping out of the little love bubble they enjoyed for a few days (anyone actually figure out how long it was??) to be separated for a while and go their own ways. Having been there before, it is not surprising to feel overwhelmed by the sense of longing, not only did I cry, but went to seek solace with my ex - to whom I cried rivers of anguish. And I was a year or two older than the characters in Skam and not in my first love.
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