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[londondave]

kellerbrady- Are you saying woman have penises?

[crissy]

Yo be honest, this is the last place I had thought I would see transphobic attitudes,I am really shocked , where are the moderators?

[londondave]

Mar 13, 2019 8:18:07 GMT -5 crissy said:

Yo be honest, this is the last place I had thought I would see transphobic attitudes,I am really shocked , where are the moderators?

Crissy, do you think women have penises?

[crissy]

Mar 13, 2019 8:19:03 GMT -5 londondave said:

Mar 13, 2019 8:18:07 GMT -5 crissy said:

Yo be honest, this is the last place I had thought I would see transphobic attitudes,I am really shocked , where are the moderators?

Crissy, do you think women have penises?

Are you for real?

[londondave]

why will no-one answer this question?

Do women have penises or not?

[londondave]

Ok since we're all about to be banned and thrown off here for addressing the cult of transgender, let's go for it!

Kellerbrady says: "He's not a "girl", or "fake boy". Trans men are men. And please read what you are writting. I'm sure homophobic people were just as outraged as Isak and Even having a sesaon. Nothing more than virtue signaling, right? Only girls had seasons so far and the series focused on the girl group, but suddenly they had to do a gay season just for "virtue signaling" and change the format by focusing on the boys."

Of course trans 'men' are not real men. Nor are trans 'women' real women. It's simply absurd to assert it.

You cannot change your sex. It's not possible.

Here's a simple biology lesson. Once the sperm hits the egg you end up either with XX for a woman or XY for a man. This XX and XY effects every single cell in your body from nails to hair, from liver to heart cells, from brain to white blood cells. Every single cell in your body is either XX or XY. This cannot be changed.

And by definition women cannot have penises. Only men can have a penis.

This is the physical side of our bodies. And it makes women different to men. It makes male athletes stronger and faster and more muscled than female athletes. XX gives women ovaries and wombs and able to have babies. XY gives men cocks and balls. 

Unless you can change every single cell in the body from XY to XX then it's, literally, not possible for men to change into women. And visa versa.

However, Men and women are NOT born with female or male brains, we are born essentially as blank slates and our sex roles are given to us by our parents school, society, media etc etc.

So, the entire trans ideological apparatus tumbles like sandcastles before an incoming tide when you realise this. We are NOT born with 'lady brains' or 'boy brains'. To say "I was born in the wrong body" is utter nonsense. Your body is your body, live with it.

I'm sure homophobic people were just as outraged as Isak and Even having a sesaon.- this is common trans trope to say this and it is intended to shame and bully gays and lesbians into shutting up. The reality is homosexuality & heterosexuality are a sexuality, not a gender. We, gay or straight, have nothing to do with trans.  Trans is all about the delusion that you can change your sex. And I and many other gays and lesbians don't understand why we've all been lumped in together under the LBGTQ+ Genderqueer b*llocks umbrella.


To re-iterate. Homophobia is nothing to do with trans issues. 

[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 5:56:49 GMT -5 londondave said:

hq75- I am not sure what your point is here.  

Are you saying you're complaining and that we are about to be descended upon by the heavy boots of the blue haired Social Justice Warrior moderators and all discussion about religion and homophobia and trans/homophobia is to be banned?

This is exactly what happened on the reddit sub mentioned above.  The number of users exploded in a metter of days and they started screaming "racism, homophobia, transphobia", long and loud enough that I got a warning for a moderator who's usually very laid back, with a reminded I was now walking on "thin ice"...  They're like a swarm of locusts descending, to either silence or get banned anyone that doesn't align with their pet narrative. 

I have a fan fic on Ao3, where I put a similar kind of disclaimer about Matteo being straight now, and I've started recieving private msgs of abuse, commands (!) to take the diclaimer down...  They're completely irrational.

So I would also like to know if this discussion here is about to be shut down to appease the SJW vermin.

[londondave]

Yes, we are. I suspect I am going to be booted off soon

What is a puzzle and no-one has managed to provide an answer, is how the whole trans nonsense has gained such power and influence so quickly, when it's obviously delusional nonsense?

Julie Bindel, who's well worth looking up on twitter, and who's been No Platformed for a decade, and receives death threats from the trans idealogues, says it's because that's where all the funding has gone and so any young gay/lesbian has to buckle under and swallow the trans b*llshit or not get any jobs or not get invited to the top table of LBGT b*llshit awards and funds and prizes etc.

Also another explanation is that now gay/lesbian equality has largely been achieved these organisations like Stonewall etc, and the pink media, have become self perpetuating monsters & have run out of purpose, so they've latched onto the trans thing to further provide something to campaign for!

You can see what happened to poor old Peter Tatchell in the UK, he's a veteran of gay campaigning over decades, but because he signed a letter supporting someone who'd been No Platformed by the trans - he was No Platformed in turn by them. He has buckled and backtracked and has now been invited back into the fold of the LBGTQ+ Gender queer brigade!

Dear old Julie Bindel has not buckled and refuses to be bullied.  And certain women, despite violence used against them, and endless threats,  are fighting back.

[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 7:55:22 GMT -5 kellerbrady said:

He's not a "girl", or "fake boy". Trans men are men. And please read what you are writting. I'm sure homophobic people were just as outraged as Isak and Even having a sesaon. Nothing more than virtue signaling, right? Only girls had seasons so far and the series focused on the girl group, but suddenly they had to do a gay season just for "virtue signaling" and change the format by focusing on the boys.

No, trans men are definitively not men.  Especially considering that a majority of them do not go through the whole transition process - which include phalloplasty. 

Men do not have vaginas.  That is a fact and as such is not open for debate.

I can sit here all day, dressing up and claiming to be King of England - and yet, I will have to face the reality of being a wage slave come next morning. 

What most of these so called 'trans people' need is therapy, not surgery.

[londondave]

grallonsphere - indeed very very few trans actually undergo surgery. And indeed very few take the toxic hormones.

I think the figure is around 80% of trans 'women' don't take HRT nor have surgery.

Sadly, it's the very young kids who are conveyor belted into transitioning and taking puberty blockers by criminally irresponsible therapists and doctors - these drugs that are not reversible and turn them into eunuchs - see the example of that poor kid Jazz Jennings. A very sad case.

There is a growing scandal here in the UK where the Tavistock clinic, the main clinic in the UK dealing with 'gender dysphoric' kids has had doctors resign over the fact that without any supervision the doctors have been handing out puberty blocking drugs like sweeties to kids, the awful side effects of which are only just becoming apparent.

Long term side effects of taking these drugs include weakened hearts, and brittle bones. As well as never ever having functioning genitals- so turning teenage boys into eunuchs with tiny, tiny penises

Just wait until all the law suits start and people who are now trans enthusiasts will back peddle and deny every having supported this barbaric nonsense !

This is a colossal crime and it's little gay and lesbian kids who are being transitioned

[kellerbrady]

Yikes. Your people disgust me

[londondave]

Yikes Kellerbrady, why's that?

Are you capable of constructing an argument to spell out why?

I bet not.

Currently here in the UK we have two major cults that very popular and whose adherents exhibit the same inability to argue.
These two groups are:

1) People who support Brexit. You can ask and ask and ask why they want the UK to leave the EU but you never get an answer. You get nonsense.

2) Trans and their fans. You can ask and ask and ask and ask them why they support gay and lesbian kids being transitioned into eunuchs, or why women should have their rights taken away to suit the wishes of, mainly, straight men who want to play dress up. But you never get an answer, you get nonsense

Kellerbrady don't be disgusted, use the brain that millions of years of evolution has equipped you with, and learn about the subject that so disgusts you.

Can you do that?

[kellerbrady]

Imagine someone saying stuff like this:

2) Gays and their fans. You can ask and ask and ask and ask them why they support boys and girls being recruted to their agenda and have their innocences taken away by those perverts everywhere. Why should homos be allowed to adopt? Why should homos be allowed to be teachers? Why should homos be allowed to share bathroom with young boys. It's sickening. The nature created male and female, not the gay. Homosexualism is an aberration, it's not natural.

Maybe start having empathy for anyone by yourself and stop repeating the same rhetoric used by bigots against you.

[londondave]

But again you're not comparing like with like! Being straight or gay is a sexuality. Thinking that you're in the wrong body, cos you were born with a "lady brain", is not real. 

Ok I agree it feels real to the person who thinks they're Napoleon or to someone who thinks they're a giraffe, but it's not real.

Did you watch the videos I posted?  Do you agree that women can have a penis or can have a beard?

Then ontop of everything else I've posted critical of the trans phenomenon is the worrying fact that De-transitioning is a growing problem for those who have transitioned. Kids who hit their mid 20s and realise they've made a terrible mistake and they are in fact really the sex they were born with. These people are swept under the carpet as an embarrassment that goes against the mainstream trans agenda

[londondave]

"Transing" is when trans activists, desperate to show that the trans cult is not a recent phenomenon, try and prove historical figures were trans.

The evidence shows there were cross dressers and transexuals in historical eras but transitioning into the opposite sex is a recent event.

Historical figures claimed thus far by trans activists to be trans, include Marsha P. Johnson the gay drag queen involved in the 1969 stonewall riots.

James Barry the woman who had to dress as a man to become a doctor in the early 19th Century.

And Leonardo Di Vinci. (yes seriously!)

Trans activists are now transing Quentin Crisp! FFS !!

This is an example of trans ideology being homophobic. Homosexual men are not a type of woman. How hard has this stereotype been fought against and how readily the new progressivism seeks to re-instate it. Gender ideology and homosexuality are incompatible.

[londondave]

If anyone is interested in joining the resistance and becoming a GC, gender critical, gay man, please follow @rdqb80 on Twitter

"Hey gay men who follow me. I want to make a list of GC gay men since we are few, far between & all over the world. The whole “gay letter” in support of trans situation got me thinking that we should organize better. So if you’re interested in being added, just tweet “Yes”"

Remember most trans 'women' are straight men and their transitioning is a consequence of Autogyniphilia- which is a masturbation fantasy that has got out of hand. 

And that 's another reason why trans issues have leaped to the fore, it's because it's run by and is all about straight male entitlement and power. 

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[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 11:13:03 GMT -5 londondave said:

.... Homosexual men are not a type of woman. How hard has this stereotype been fought against and how readily the new progressivism seeks to re-instate it. Gender ideology and homosexuality are incompatible.

We must realize that transgenderism is an extension of feminism - the toxic 3rd wave version of it.  And who are the leading voices of that ideology?  Rabid man hating females.  Is it any wonder they are constantly talking about 'toxic masculinity', or pushing for the eradication of genders? 

The SJW vermin are the shock troops of the movement.  On Twitter and Tumblr and everywhere else they can swarm. 

Fortunately there's an enormous backlash brewing against all that nonsense.

[kellerbrady]

Mar 13, 2019 10:48:31 GMT -5 londondave said:

The nature created man and women. Man sticking his penis into another man's anus is unnatural, thinking you were born with a "same sex attraction", is not real. 

Ok I agree it feels real to the person who thinks they're attraced to men or kids , but it's not natural. It's a perversion

Did you watch the videos I posted?  Do you agree that man can be penetrated by another man like woman?

Then ontop of everything else I've posted critical of the homo phenomenon is the worrying fact they keep trying to ban conversion therapy,what is a growing problem for those who are confused . Kids who hit their mid 20s and realise they've made a terrible mistake and they are in fact really the sex they were born with and therefore should marry a woman. These people are swept under the carpet as an embarrassment that goes against the mainstream homo agenda

Mar 13, 2019 10:48:31 GMT -5 londondave said:

"Gaysing" is when gay activists, desperate to show that the gay cult is not a recent phenomenon, try and prove historical figures were gay.

The evidence shows there were cross dressers and perverts in historical eras but wanting to marry another man is a recent event.

Historical figures claimed thus far by gay activists to be gay, Eleanor Roosevelt, William Shakespeare And President Buchanan. (yes seriously!)

Gay activists are now gaysing King James of the bible! FFS !!

This is an example of gay ideology being generate. Gay men are trying to be woman by having sex with men. This is the reality new progressivism seeks to re-instate it. Feminism and support for homosexuality are incompatible. Homosexuals have a deep repulse toward women

[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 10:12:17 GMT -5 kellerbrady said:

Your people disgust me

You still haven't explained why you find Dave and I so disgusting.

[kellerbrady]

Mar 13, 2019 14:18:03 GMT -5 grallonsphere said:

Mar 13, 2019 10:12:17 GMT -5 kellerbrady said:

Your people disgust me

You still haven't explained why you find Dave and I so disgusting.

Racism, homophobia and transphobia are all equally disgusting to me.

[londondave]

kellerbrady- "Your people disgust me"

the correct grammar is: "You people disgust me"

[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 18:19:37 GMT -5 kellerbrady said:

Mar 13, 2019 14:18:03 GMT -5 grallonsphere said:

You still haven't explained why you find Dave and I so disgusting.

Racism, homophobia and transphobia are all equally disgusting to me.

Don't you have any argument besides buzzwords, ad homs and smear tactics?

[kellerbrady]

Mar 13, 2019 19:04:18 GMT -5 grallonsphere said:

Mar 13, 2019 18:19:37 GMT -5 kellerbrady said:

Racism, homophobia and transphobia are all equally disgusting to me.

Don't you have any argument besides buzzwords, ad homs and smear tactics?

Maybe try to grow up, stop being ignorant and try to become a decent human being.

[kevvoi]

New clip from Skam Espana's Lucas; from his youtube channel:




Please note there are no active moderators for this board right now (Mark occasionally ducks his head in - especially for the Dutch shows, but otherwise it has been about 8 months since Zathras posted) - so no one is going to be kicked out. That said, I think the conversation has gone well off track and it would be better to focus on the specific storylines instead.

[grallonsphere]

Mar 13, 2019 20:14:47 GMT -5 kevvoi said:

...

That said, I think the conversation has gone well off track and it would be better to focus on the specific storylines instead.

Hello God!  We are indeed trying to stay on track - by asking pointed questions about a major underlying component of this last season of Druck.  And despite that, or perhaps because of it, we're met with gratuitous abuse and censure, rather than answers.  Witness the last response from our friend kellerbrady.  Apparently I'm not a decent human being.  Why?  Presumably for not endorsing (with vigorous approval) the same virtue-signaling talking points he or she is reciting.

How do you think we should proceed then?  Renounce science?  Flagellate ourselves for being 'heretics'?  Accuse ourselves, like all those people did under Stalin, of ideological deviancy?