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Post by kevvoi on May 4, 2014 21:27:12 GMT -5
Here is a new clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by kevvoi on May 6, 2014 10:43:02 GMT -5
Next part courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on May 11, 2014 13:48:16 GMT -5
After the end of the kidnapping storyline this will move on. It semms that Miguel remind a lot more of that night, i hope Paulo got courage and tell him the truth, not that he is going to react well, but it will be better if it's him the one who tell Miguel the truth and not Miguel remind it himself
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Post by kevvoi on May 14, 2014 21:18:12 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on May 15, 2014 8:59:09 GMT -5
Well, tonight's the night. Miguel remembers his night with Paulo and reacts worse than bad. He even threaten to dennounce Paulo to his boss (till Teresa reminds him than doing this he should recognize that he is gay too, wich in my opinion it's the whole problem, because Miguel is so full of prejudices, curiously he is surrounded of non prejudiced people, that it will be very hard for him to accept it)
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Post by kevvoi on May 16, 2014 20:53:18 GMT -5
Two new clips courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by kevvoi on May 17, 2014 5:53:59 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on May 17, 2014 12:43:47 GMT -5
Well, there's only one clip behind. and nothing really important happened in yesterday's episode. Paulo come from the hospital, and Miguel is drinking near the swimming pool (everybody knows what that means).
The most important thing is the story is moving, i think Miguel will be angry and blaming Paulo of everything but his family is not as backwards as he is, so probably he will come to his senses more sooner than later (but he seems stubborn enough to drag his anger for a good while)
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Post by jjose712 on May 20, 2014 14:19:18 GMT -5
As expected Miguel accused Paulo of rape. That's what he told his brother, and the reason is simple, he just can't stand the fact that he slept with a guy without being forced.
Unfortunately for him, Rita knows the truth.
I hope he overcomes this phase of "i want to destroy Paulo's life" soon
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Post by jjose712 on May 26, 2014 9:34:40 GMT -5
Well, if the the user doesn't post the videos i think i will post my comments in spoilers. Not that much happened but they were in several episodes last week
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Post by kevvoi on May 27, 2014 12:42:16 GMT -5
Two new clips courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on May 27, 2014 14:04:33 GMT -5
I was pleasantly surprised by Paulo's brother reaction (i can't say the same about his wife).
The moment Miguel tried to flirt with his little cousin's girlfriend (who is a no nonsense girl) is very pathetic. After that scene he reminds having sex with Paulo and it's pretty clear that he was not forced to do anything
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Post by kevvoi on May 27, 2014 18:05:34 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on May 29, 2014 14:02:35 GMT -5
Miguel is very handsome, but frankly it's difficult to understand what Paulo see in him.
It's not exactly a character to root for. I know that there's a big probability that in the end they get together, but i would love if Paulo was able to separate himself from him, and stop feeling guilty. They both were drunk and nobody make Miguel have sex with him against his will
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Post by Gary N on May 29, 2014 20:52:29 GMT -5
Still no English subtitles?  |
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Post by justinate on May 30, 2014 5:33:42 GMT -5
Miguel is very handsome, but frankly it's difficult to understand what Paulo see in him. It's not exactly a character to root for. I know that there's a big probability that in the end they get together, but i would love if Paulo was able to separate himself from him, and stop feeling guilty. They both were drunk and nobody make Miguel have sex with him against his will To be fair to Miguel, inebriation is a valid basis for rape, i.e. the drunk person's mental faculties are sufficiently impaired that he can't knowingly provide consent, and Miguel did appear to fall into this category (black-out drunk until he couldn't remember what happened). If Paulo had been sober and willfully taken advantage of Miguel, then Miguel would have a case for rape. But as we saw, Paulo himself was pretty drunk and I'm sure otherwise he would never have had sex with Miguel in that state. That being said, I hope the show will not sweep Miguel's brutal beating of Paulo under the carpet just to sell them as some epic love. When a guy beats you so badly that it necessitates a trip to the hospital, there is no coming back from that. I'm fine with Paulo to forgive Miguel and even help him out of the closet (if indeed that's the resolution), but I really hope they are not going to put them together romantically. This is fast becoming the default state of gay couples on television. Punch a guy black and blue = true love forever! Ugh. Actually, I would prefer if Miguel just remains straight. Why does he have to be gay? Straight people can have same-sex encounters and it doesn't have to alter their orientation. It would be more interesting if we saw Miguel come to terms with that (and Paulo to accept Miguel isn't gay) than to portray a drunken same-sex encounter as the mandatory first step out of the closet. |
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Post by jjose712 on May 30, 2014 8:53:20 GMT -5
Sorry, but that's only if the perpetator is sober, and Paulo was not. He was not in a position to abuse of anyone, he just kissed Miguel and they end in bed (and Miguel collaborate to all they do it).
This is a soap, Miguel is clearly gay. The fact that he is overcompensating all the time is a clear clue.
And frankly, nobody change of sexual orientation just for being drunk, that's an absurd myth, you simply lose your inhibitions. If you end in a bed with another guy because you are drunk you are at least bi curious.
One think is experiment (something that Miguel wouldn't do being sober) and other react to a kiss having sex with your friend.
Anyway, i am not sure if i want them being together. Maybe Paulo is in love with Miguel, but he deserves someone much better, because Miguel is not a nice guy
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 7, 2014 5:15:05 GMT -5
Well, they are in some episodes this week, but i was hoping the storyline would move fast. Probably when Miguel has to chat with Adre's therapist this will move a bit.
Paulo seems more confident, but Miguel talked to their bosses to make the workers go to a dinner with their girlfriends (fortunately for Paulo, he told all the truth to Marta, and she seems happy to help him)
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 9, 2014 15:50:23 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 9, 2014 17:15:53 GMT -5
Another new clip courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 14, 2014 8:14:02 GMT -5
I think next week will be interesting. They are on the company's party, Miguel had the chance to tell the truth to his boss but he didn't.
He had an argument with his niece, and Andre said to him that he is not the same since his fight with Paulo.
He talks with Paulo in next episode and ask him if Marta (Marta is the girl who want with Paulo to the party and fakes being his girlfriend) knows about him, but Marta not only knows that Paulo is gay but know too what happened between them.
And on tuesday Miguel is going to chat with Adre's therapist and the spoiler says that he feels more and more uncomfortable with the conversation (Andre's therapist watch Miguel and Paulo on a bar when he was with Andre, and he knew that somethig happened between them)
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 23, 2014 12:50:03 GMT -5
Hopefully it will be more videos soon, because i missed an episode and a couple of scenes.
I don't think there will be much Paulo this week, because right now the plot is around Alice, Andre, Fernando and Rita.
I will be happy if they introduce a new gay character interested in Paulo. I think it will be good for the storyline, and maybe Miguel start to analize himself and stop being annoying for a while
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 24, 2014 9:22:12 GMT -5
Two new clips courtesy of Paulo Escorpiao:
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2014 15:20:52 GMT -5
I hadn't watched that scene where Miguel is at the phone asking for the weather in Spain. He is clearly worried about Paulo, but of course he denied to his nephew
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 24, 2014 17:59:27 GMT -5
And here are two more clips:
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