Salatut elämät - General Discussion

[Zathras]

Somehow I get the feeling I'm supposed to have some kind of a reaction to Elias taking that job. Apparently that guy has a reputation, but since I haven't seen what he's done I don't have any reaction whatsoever. So I'm curious if Elias taking that job is a good thing, a bad thing, or neutral. Anybody have any idea?

[justinate]

Zathras, as I understand it, the guy (Aki) is a gold-digger who married Elias's grandmother (his father's mother) for her money. When she found out, she shot him (which is why he's on crutches) and left town to escape prosecution. So now Elias's dad and uncle hate Aki for hoodwinking their mother and forcing her to flee. And from the looks of it, the hatred is mutual and I suspect Aki is going to seduce Elias away from his family (not literally - although that would be a good twist!) I'm not sure how old Aki is supposed to be?

I'm more interested in when Janne got naked. Anyone know which episode that happened? There seems to be quite a bit of discussion in the Youtube comments but no answer!

[daleeryohm]

So we get 2 days of Elias' new story, and then it goes on break.

Typical.

[HQ75]

The whole show isn't going on break, there just want be much Elias involved with Lari or Kalle and MissFinn88 doesn't post clips of Elias, Lari or Kalle when they are part of other storylines.

Some channels post clips of a character everytime they appear but that is not the way she edits the storyline that is why sometimes she will post a bunch of clips of Lari or Elias with other characters all at once as "extras" and you realize that Elias and Lari do appear on screen more than are in the Elias Story videos, but the only appear on the channel if they are part of a story with each other.

The full show is only on 4 days this week and the spoilers don't indicate Lari and Elias in scenes together according to MissFinn

[kevvoi]

Extra Elias scenes courtesy of MissFinlandia:



She posted the following note with the clip to explain them:

Some extra Elias scenes. Some are from time before Christmas break and 7 last scenes are last/this week

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New clip courtesy of MissFinlandia:

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[crayran]

I was just thinking to myself I like the new attitude of Ellias and Bam he is back mooning over Lari!
Why is Lari changing at the restaurant any way?

[LadyArmand]

Feb 8, 2016 13:59:47 GMT -5 crayran said:

I was just thinking to myself I like the new attitude of Ellias and Bam he is back mooning over Lari!
Why is Lari changing at the restaurant any way?

Lari probably got his job back. I don't know why that would happen off screen other than they wanted the audience to be just as surprised as Elias was at seeing Lari there.

[Zathras]

So Elias was ... admiring the view. I don't blame him.

I suppose he will end up pining after Lari again, unfortunately. Or maybe he will throw himself into work to try to avoid it. Either way, he needs to meet another guy.

[HQ75]

All Elias did was walk into the room. He has to work there and as far as he knew Lari was no longer working there. Now folks are chastising Elias just for looking at Lari's back? Give me strength. Elias had been minding his business since he's been back. He has not once made a move on Lari so why can folks let him move on?

[HQ75]

Feb 8, 2016 13:59:47 GMT -5 crayran said:

I was just thinking to myself I like the new attitude of Ellias and Bam he is back mooning over Lari!
Why is Lari changing at the restaurant any way?

Elias wasn't mooning. He just walked into the room.

[daleeryohm]

The writing on this show is terrible. Elias was in the sauna with Lari just a few episodes ago, not to mention how familiar Elias is with Lari's body anyway, and now he's suddenly struck with lust over Lari's back?

So many people are almost desperate at this point for Elias to get to move on. But all these writers want to do is play this one note pathetic ex crap tirelessly . It's literally been years. It'll never end.

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MissFinlandia send next clip

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Feb 8, 2016 23:37:23 GMT -5 daleeryohm said:

The writing on this show is terrible. Elias was in the sauna with Lari just a few episodes ago, not to mention how familiar Elias is with Lari's body anyway, and now he's suddenly struck with lust over Lari's back?

So many people are almost desperate at this point for Elias to get to move on. But all these writers want to do is play this one note pathetic ex crap tirelessly . It's literally been years. It'll never end.

There are still a lot of people wait for larias reunite.

[HQ75]

Feb 8, 2016 23:37:23 GMT -5 daleeryohm said:

The writing on this show is terrible. Elias was in the sauna with Lari just a few episodes ago, not to mention how familiar Elias is with Lari's body anyway, and now he's suddenly struck with lust over Lari's back?

So many people are almost desperate at this point for Elias to get to move on. But all these writers want to do is play this one note pathetic ex crap tirelessly . It's literally been years. It'll never end.

He wasn't struck with lust. You are totally projecting. No where on screen or in the writing does it indicate Elias was struck with lust. He was just shocked to see Lari there since Lari no longer worked at Moose. The fact that he had his shirt off was also, I'm sure. surprising given where they were. Being in a sauna with a group of friends is not the same as being alone when you hadn't planned to see someone.

Why are you being so aggressive. No one is desperate to see anything. It's just a soap. Folks just want the drama and conflict that is the staple of any soap. If you think soap couples just break up once or twice and it's over, you don't have a lot of experience with soap operas.

It's not supposed to be high drama or Shakespeare. It's not that serious.

Elias handled himself very professionally and really tried to keep things pleasant and light. It would actually be nice to see Elias and Lari be friends when one of them isn't trying to convince the other one to break up with their boyfriend. There are other gays in the soap, there is no reason Elias couldn't try to date. He has before.

[dmagiclight]

the sow is setting up for Lari and Elias to sleep together again

[Zathras]

Feb 8, 2016 21:18:27 GMT -5 HQ75 said:

All Elias did was walk into the room. He has to work there and as far as he knew Lari was no longer working there. Now folks are chastising Elias just for looking at Lari's back? Give me strength. Elias had been minding his business since he's been back. He has not once made a move on Lari so why can folks let him move on?

Who here was "chastising"?

No, Elias hasn't made an overt move on Lari. But from what I've seen on screen since he's been back, it seems likely to me that he isn't really over Lari. From my experience, the show is telegraphing something. And, yes, that included yesterday's scene. It may only something on Elias' side, not to be reciprocated. Or it may be nothing at all. Only time will tell. But this show hasn't exactly been the most original in their story development and that kind of triangle is tried-and-true.

Feb 9, 2016 15:46:17 GMT -5 HQ75 said:

He wasn't struck with lust. You are totally projecting. No where on screen or in the writing does it indicate Elias was struck with lust. He was just shocked to see Lari there since Lari no longer worked at Moose. The fact that he had his shirt off was also, I'm sure. surprising given where they were.

You accuse daleeryohm of projecting (which may or may not be true), but you are doing the same. Now I don't know that I would call the expression on Elias' face "lust," but to me it was not exactly simple "surprise." You obviously saw something different on screen than some other people; that doesn't mean they were "projecting."

[HQ75]

Feb 9, 2016 21:32:16 GMT -5 Zathras said:

Who here was "chastising"?

" The writing on this show is terrible. Elias was in the sauna with Lari just a few episodes ago, not to mention how familiar Elias is with Lari's body anyway, and now he's suddenly struck with lust over Lari's back?

So many people are almost desperate at this point for Elias to get to move on. But all these writers want to do is play this one note pathetic ex crap tirelessly . It's literally been years. It'll never end."

There was clearly some criticizing of the writers (and by extension the character) and of viewers who want Larias to happen. Where I come from that's definitely chastising. I was simply saying I disagree with the nature of the critique. Surely that's allowed.

As for projecting, we have no evidence that Elias was feeling "lust" (it wasn't referenced). Maybe later he'll talk to Iida and say how he felt and we'll know for sure. What it actually reminded me of was when Oliver walked in on Elias and Miska in bed. Surprised but intrigued. LOL

The long shot on Lari's flexing back was obviously fanservice but I didn't see a desire from Elias to pounce on Lari right then and there.

Whatever is going to happen in the future, in these scenes I saw Elias trying to be professional and the only reason why I think it matters is because for now he actually did try to keep things light and wasn't being all come hither. He was genuinely treating Lari like a work colleague and acquaintance which is an important milestone I don't think should be dismissed because of what might happen in the future.

I'm not naive. Yes maybe them working together will lead to them getting back together but folks said the same thing when Elias got shot and Lari professed his love to Elias or when they got kidnapped and actually slept together and when Elias first got back to town and Lari was so sad. None of those incidents lead to them reuniting yet, so we will just have to see what happens.

I don't want to forecast or assume anything because I would love to actually be surprised by when, if how it happens.

I want to try to be present and enjoy each moment of the story before it all hits the fan (if it does).

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[LadyArmand]

Kalle gets on my nerves. A grown ass man should not be this insecure. Then again a grown ass man shouldn't be dating a teenager either.

[daleeryohm]

This storyline isn't doing anyone any favors. Not any of the 3 in this triangle, except for Lari, who gets taken care of like a kept man, but thats not a positive. He should be embarrassed. And Kalle's felt the judgement of dating a teen before, but it hasnt gotten him in even interested in ANYONE his own age. No, he'd rather stay with a guy he doesnt really trust after said guy knocked up his sister. And of course Elias is a young cute professional who could bag anyone he wants, but *whine* "OTP" *whine*. #NoOneButLari

Its not worth analyzing, or even commenting on. Not at this point. The soap just has to change. The writing has to get better. But it may never happen, so. What can you do.

[Zathras]

Finally watched the last clip...

So Kalle doesn't trust Lari. Somehow I'm not surprised. But why did he go home and start drinking instead of walking up to them? Does he not want to fight to try to keep Lari from straying? Or does he not care enough? Weird, but (again) I'm not really surprised.

Jeez. Ismo actually asked Kalle to go back into the closet for the sake of Kristiina?! I'm almost surprised Kalle isn't more upset with her, why would he go in the closet for her benefit? (No, I still don't like her.)

[crayran]

We all have insecurities in relationships. I feel Kalle represents a lot more of us then most people are willing to except. Kalle has been hurt and betrayed in the past of coarse he is insecure. But the choice the bottle over pursuing his man is really sad.