Spoiler Discussion - Days of Our Lives

[bsgnut]

Does anyone think writing to the show to support the storyline would give the show some backbone?

[pru]

Backbone for what?

All I've been reading is alot of speculation. The new, new stuff hasn't even aired yet and won't till sometime in September.

So unlike others I won't be jumping to big conclusions and will wait for the story to unfold slowly on my screen.

[overtherainbow]

Aug 12, 2011 0:31:05 GMT -5 pru said:

Backbone for what?

All I've been reading is alot of speculation. The new, new stuff hasn't even aired yet and won't till sometime in September.

So unlike others I won't be jumping to big conclusions and will wait for the story to unfold slowly on my screen.

What do you have to say about the interview then?

The interview was new (which means he's now doing scenes airing in October), and Freddie Smith said he still has no idea who his love interest is gonna be, and that he's the fifth weel, because everyone else has a love life except him. These scenes are airing in October, when all of the new writing should have kicked in. Do you think that sounds promising?

[peggin]

Aug 12, 2011 1:39:09 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

What do you have to say about the interview then?

The interview was new (which means he's now doing scenes airing in October), and Freddie Smith said he still has no idea who his love interest is gonna be, and that he's the fifth weel, because everyone else has a love life except him. These scenes are airing in October, when all of the new writing should have kicked in. Do you think that sounds promising?

The question wasn't directed to me, but I think I'm going to answer it anyway. What I have to say is that that interview is from a source that I'm not familiar with, so I have no way of knowing whether or not it's reliable. I'm not saying it's unreliable, only time will tell on that one, but because it's from a source I'm not familiar with, I feel like I don't know any more now than I did before I read it.

Also, assuming the storyline is still on, and Will is still going to be gay, I would expect that to be a November (Sweeps) kind of storyline, so the fact that the it hasn't come up yet in the October scripts doesn't upset me.

At the moment, all I can say is that we have to wait and see, but there was a lot of buzz early on that Will was going to be gay, and since then all we've seen is rumor and innuendo, none from any official source. If we do hear something from an official source saying they've changed their mind on making Will gay, or if November comes and goes and there's still not any hint of it, then I'll probably give up on the show. But until then, I plan to hope for the best, even while acknowledging there's a possibility that I won't get it.

[mrfixit477]

Freddie Smith said he did not know who would be Sonny’s love interest not who would be doing the coming out story

[pru]

Exactly, peggin.

Where is all this mass hysteria coming from anyway?

All this continuing freaking out and impatience...spare me. It's not even that serious.

And how anyone can try and judge anything from hearing spec from different sites is a mystery to me, especially like I pointed out the new writers stuff doesn't start airing till sometime in September.

I also agree with your theory concerning November sweeps. I can totally see some stuff happening then. But like I said before we'll just have to wait and see and I have no problem with that.

[Hawthorne]

Freddie's interview corroborates the About.com article. In fact, I bet that interview is the "source" that the About.com writer is referring to. However, Freddie doesn't say it's not happening. I think the change is a time frame change, just like we were told. The old writers were having the Sonny-Will story headed for a climax within the next month or two, but now it is getting back-burnered because the new writers have a bunch of other things that they want to put in place as they put their mark on the show. It sounds like they're bringing back a lot of older characters and there's only so much screen time available at any one time. Chad is a poor candidate for Sonny's love interest, IMO, so I think it will still be Will. Bringing in a new character is possible, I guess, but there wouldn't be much drama at all with that. We were told this slowing down was going to happen, so maybe we shouldn't assume the worst yet. It's frustrating, I know.

[dmagiclight]

That's true no one has said that the story line has been dumped just pushed back until I hear officially that it has been dumped I will still follow

[pru]

All the stories have been pushed back, because they are setting up for the fan favorites coming back. What is so hard to understand about that?

I mean really, all we've been hearing are all these lame ass conspiracy theories without any concrete proof to back up anything.

[pru]

Aug 12, 2011 13:24:34 GMT -5 Hawthorne said:

Freddie's interview corroborates the About.com article. In fact, I bet that interview is the "source" that the About.com writer is referring to. However, Freddie doesn't say it's not happening. I think the change is a time frame change, just like we were told. The old writers were having the Sonny-Will story headed for a climax within the next month or two, but now it is getting back-burnered because the new writers have a bunch of other things that they want to put in place as they put their mark on the show. It sounds like they're bringing back a lot of older characters and there's only so much screen time available at any one time. Chad is a poor candidate for Sonny's love interest, IMO, so I think it will still be Will. Bringing in a new character is possible, I guess, but there wouldn't be much drama at all with that. We were told this slowing down was going to happen, so maybe we shouldn't assume the worst yet. It's frustrating, I know.

Exactly, Hawthorne.

People are acting like they are so shocked and surprised that the story is slowing down. It's not like we weren't told. So what the hell is really the problem?

Hmm, a big case of impatience maybe? If you don't want to wait then can't help ya.

[anthonyl]

Assuming the story is still a go and I believe it is, I think the show is doing the right thing in slowing it down for awhile. People don't want to hear this, but DOOL should focus on the returns and setting up the long time characters and letting them drive most of the action. That's really what long time fans and people who stopped watching want to see and those are the folks that made the show what it is. Those lost viewers need to come back to get those ratings up otherwise they won't have a soap. I could be wrong, but I believe the story will play out in time, just like the show's executive producer said it would. If it doesn't get going, I'll be sure to write about it, but for now, I'm not bothered. This panicking, especially from folks who never even watched DAYS until a few weeks ago, just seems.... silly.

[pru]

Aug 12, 2011 15:40:37 GMT -5 anthonyl said:

Assuming the story is still a go and I believe it is, I think the show is doing the right thing in slowing it down for awhile. People don't want to hear this, but DOOL should focus on the returns and setting up the long time characters and letting them drive most of the action. That's really what long time fans and people who stopped watching want to see and those are the folks that made the show what it is. Those lost viewers need to come back to get those ratings up otherwise they won't have a soap. I could be wrong, but I believe the story will play out in time, just like the show's executive producer said it would. If it doesn't get going, I'll be sure to write about it, but for now, I'm not bothered. This panicking, especially from folks who never even watched DAYS until a few weeks ago, just seems.... silly.

Uh, tell me about it, anthony.

I swear I come on here and read all this mass hysteria and it's like WTF? And it's so silly. I've watched Days forever and none of this surprises me at all, especially since we were TOLD about it beforehand...it's like take a damn chill pill already.

[centurion]

Aug 12, 2011 13:24:34 GMT -5 Hawthorne said:

Freddie's interview corroborates the About.com article. In fact, I bet that interview is the "source" that the About.com writer is referring to. However, Freddie doesn't say it's not happening. I think the change is a time frame change, just like we were told. The old writers were having the Sonny-Will story headed for a climax within the next month or two, but now it is getting back-burnered because the new writers have a bunch of other things that they want to put in place as they put their mark on the show. It sounds like they're bringing back a lot of older characters and there's only so much screen time available at any one time. Chad is a poor candidate for Sonny's love interest, IMO, so I think it will still be Will. Bringing in a new character is possible, I guess, but there wouldn't be much drama at all with that. We were told this slowing down was going to happen, so maybe we shouldn't assume the worst yet. It's frustrating, I know.

I know there are a number of people who want Abby to have a man but I cannot possibly agree that Chad is a poor candidate for Sonny. Just no all the way around! Not only would there be a gay story with them, but one that would be constantly enmeshed between two organized crime families who will never see eye to eye. On one side, you have a family that's mostly accepting. On the other, you'd have a family who would not accept it and would see it as an embarrassment and even potential destruction to the family dynasty, at least in their eyes. Chad/Sonny would have multi-layered drama unlike Will/Sonny, so to call Chad a poor candidate reeks of folly to me. But that's JMO of course. With Will/Sonny, you have two guys who are so much alike that it would be like looking in a mirror for both of them. They're both too nice, their families all like each other, and for the most part they all get along pretty well. The writers would have to work extra hard to bring the drama with these two, I think. Sure, we'd get the same old drama of the closeted gay teen being stuck between his teenaged girlfriend and the gay kid who's already out, but that's the same cookie-cutter, high school type gay storyline that's been told a million times already. I'd be pushing for and wanting to see something a little different for a change but that's just me.

[blake]

I want to say I'm sorry for my early post I guess I just let my emotions get the best of me.I'm just super excited about this storyline that I would hate to see Days just drop it like that.I understand that Days wants to get back alot of their old viewers and that I understand again I'm sorry.

[ari]

Excerpt from recent SON interview with DOOL's
Casey Deidrick (CHAD) and Molly Burnett(MELANIE).

Interviewer: Now DOOL is doing what many soaps
have been getting away from, or shying away from,
and that's telling the story of a gay teenager and
leading to romance. Is there anything you can talk
to us about that?

Casey: I think it's about time.

Molly:I think so too. And I... and Sonny and Melanie are ...Sonny is Melanie's gay best friend.
I love it so much and ummmm...more power to 'em, rock on...I love it...And but I just don't want to see..they're not rushing it....everything is really organic...ummm I hear they...did a phenomenal job...andFreddie is doing amazing. He's doing so well.

[blake]

Aug 12, 2011 16:17:57 GMT -5 ari said:

Excerpt from recent SON interview with DOOL's
Casey Deidrick (CHAD) and Molly Burnett(MELANIE).

Interviewer: Now DOOL is doing what many soaps
have been getting away from, or shying away from,
and that's telling the story of a gay teenager and
leading to romance. Is there anything you can talk
to us about that?

Casey: I think it's about time.

Molly:I think so too. And I... and Sonny and Melanie are ...Sonny is Melanie's gay best friend.
I love it so much and ummmm...more power to 'em, rock on...I love it...And but I just don't want to see..they're not rushing it....everything is really organic...ummm I hear they...did a phenomenal job...andFreddie is doing amazing. He's doing so well.

Well my mind is at ease then thanks for posting!

[anthonyl]

Well... I would think that would be confirmation right there. I love how she says they are not rushing it and that it's organic. That's the way to should be. I love how Melanie is Sonny's pal.

[justinate]

Well, there was never any official confirmation that Will would be gay, yet everyone ran with that idea, so I don't think it's such a huge stretch for people to be concerned that Will's coming-out will be dropped, since Ken Corday's anti-gay attitude is a known fact and there is no movement in the story so far, with Freddie even saying he feels like a fifth wheel. I hate that they've made Sonny Melanie's gay best friend because she is such an annoying character and the actress's performance really grates. I'd have thought the best dramatic potential would be in Gabi and Sonny becoming good friends before he "steals" her boyfriend, if indeed that is to happen. I still think there is something off about Thursday's Will/Gabi scenes, they were so short and spaced so far apart, which makes me believe there was at least one more scene that was cut. But I guess time will tell. Since people believe this story will kick off in November, I am tuning out until then. It is clear that will be the earliest we'll see anything significant happen with Sonny, based on Freddie's interview. I have very little confidence in these new writers as some of their other storyline decisions (e.g. Vivian's exit) reflect poorly on their ability. The likelihood that Ken Corday is standing over them and guiding their pen pretty much sounds the death knell. They have a lot to do if they want to revive DOOL from being the worst soap on air, and they're off to a bad start.

There's nothing to love about them slowing it down because they've really lost the plot. It's not organic in the least, either. Organic would be showing subtle hints like we got at the beginning and giving characters airtime to develop their motivations. By all accounts, this is not happening. I don't blame Molly Burnett for saying this stuff because obviously she must tow the party line and can't say "Oh yeah, Ken Corday's put a stop to this storyline because he thinks gays don't belong on a family show". The way this story is being written right now, the show's traditional fans will find it unbelievably inorganic to reveal Will as gay. Heck, most of the new gay fans find it inorganic.

[cathy29]

Aug 12, 2011 16:31:37 GMT -5 anthonyl said:

Well... I would think that would be confirmation right there. I love how she says they are not rushing it and that it's organic. That's the way to should be. I love how Melanie is Sonny's pal.

I thought Sonny best friend would be Abigail or Gabi his having scenes with the both of them.I don't think i seen him have scenes with Melanie yet.But i guess those scenes with Melanie are coming up.

[pru]

Sonny and Abby's relationship is beyond being BFFs.

They are not only cousins but you can see their connection and bond whenever they are interacting together.

I'm not surprised that Melanie falls for the charisma as well and adores him as her new best friend. It's about time she got someone she can talk to, besides Maggie, who is her age.

[pru]

I disagree, justinate.

They haven't lost anything. It would be different if they were showing Will and Sonny having feelings for each other and then boom! Suddenly we got nothing and there was no explanation. That's not what has happened.

We were told way beforehand the story was going to slow down and that the old storylines had to finish playing out and before the new writers stuff was going to be shown.

Will and Sonny's story hasn't even started yet, right now they are building a friendship and that's great. What is with all the impatience? You are behaving like you got lied to.

[anthonyl]

I understand people being impatient and wanting the story to start, especially since we heard about it months and months ago and it was just getting started when it was delayed because of the new regime and what not. That I get. But what I don't understand and the anger, bitterness and hostility and acting as if the world has come to an end about a show most folks never even laid eyes on before it would seem. At this point the show has done nothing, in my opinion to deserve that. Believe me, if it doesn't come to pass, I'll be the first to complain and write about it.

[md1347]

It's a soap folks. I've been through the Kish debacle, Cenny leaving, Nuke(ular) destruction, Aarson killing and DeRo is coming to an end (won't give it away). Chrolli is going through some bad writing at the moment... this is what soaps do. They call the crap drama but I call it bullshit since most died before their time. Get use to it because sooner or later WilSon will have the same ending at these others.

[blake]

I'll be the first to admit that I let my feelings get the best of me after what OLTL did to Kish and Y & R did was just a joke plain and simple and now what Christian ad Olli are going through.I know that Days is taking this slow and that's a good thing let them build a friendship let them get to know each first and let Will come to the realization that he is gay.And then start to build that relationship.

[carld2]

Aug 12, 2011 17:14:59 GMT -5 justinate said:

I'd have thought the best dramatic potential would be in Gabi and Sonny becoming good friends before he "steals" her boyfriend, if indeed that is to happen.

I think the only problem there would be if it becomes about Gabi being hurt or victimized by both men. That would make viewers dislike both characters, as I think happened with Eastenders and Christian/Syed.