Days Of Our Lives - General Discussion

[bonniegirl]

I watch on NBC, but I have seen clips on Twitter by following Chandler. Don’t want to post the exact name for fear of NBC shutting them down. Hope that helps!

[sunshine0786]

This facebook page posts the will/sonny/paul stuff.

www.facebook.com/WillHortonSonnyKiriakis/

It is a Wilson fan page and the poster is not a big Paul fan, so just a warning if you are!

They also post fanvids so you have to scroll through to find the episode clips.

[boz-ruh]

I'm worried how Sonny gonna react to Paul&Will. I hope he will not do something stupid. He might get drunk, get a accident, sleep with someone without protection, get in a fight, and most likely he might do something to hurt them or damage their relationship. Well at least we don't have to worry he getting someone pregnant (I'm looking at you Robert) . I hope he will be understanding and if he can't then maybe he can just stay away, because we all know Will gonna get his memories back and that's gonna change everything.

Also I don't hate Paul&Will, actually I thing actors have great chemistry but I just hate how absurd and forced it is. I can understand Will, he doesn't remember his past but I can't understand Paul I just can't.

[jason47]

JANUARY 2018 EPISODE RANKINGS & STATS:

DAILY CAST CHART: Review each day's cast list from January 2018 at www.jason47.com/days/castcharts2018.html

TYLER CHRISTOPHER JOINS MONTHLY LEADERS LIST: Tyler Christopher (Stefan) became the 153rd actor to lead the monthly episode rankings.

COUNTDOWN TO 4000: Drake Hogestyn (John) has now appeared in 3,984 episodes. He needs just 16 more appearances to reach the 4,000 episode milestone.

January Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this month (1/1/18-1/31/18), out of a total of 22 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com

Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes

1. Tyler Christopher (Stefan DiMera) 15
2. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 14
*. Lauren Koslow (Kate DiMera) 14
*. Marci Miller (Abigail DiMera) 14
5. Thaao Penghlis (Andre DiMera) 13
6. Lamon Archey (Eli Grant) 12
*. Camila Banus (Gabi Henandez) 12
*. Louise Sorel (Vivian Alamain) 12
9. Sal Stowers (Lani Price) 11
10. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 10
*. Mary Beth Evans (Kayla Johnson) 10
*. Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux) 10

SET TOTALS: January 2018
Brady Pub...15
Horton Town Square...12
Horton Town Square Private Area # 2...12
Detective Area...10
DiMera Mansion...10
Interrogation Room...10
Kiriakis Mansion...10
Andre's DiMera Office...9
Doug's Place...9
Gabi's DiMera Workroom...7
Nurses' Station...7
Stefan's DiMera Office...6
Theo's Hospital Room...6
Hope's Office...5
Kayla's Office...5
Chad's Bedroom (DiMera)...4
Eli's Room (Martin House)...4
Loft...4
Stefan's Bedroom (DiMera)...4
Will's Room (Martin House)...4
Eve's Bedroom (Kiriakis)...3
Eric's Room (Martin House)...2
Brady's Bedroom (Kiriakis)...1
Doug's Place Office...1
Doug's Place Valet Area...1
Hope & Rafe's Bed Limbo...1
Horton Center Office...1
Horton Living Room...1
Hospital Exam Room...1
JJ's Room (Martin House)...1
Rehab Center Waiting Room...1

DIRECTORS & SCRIPT WRITERS:
1/2/18: Steven Williford & Richard Culliton
1/3/18: Angela Tessinari & Carolyn Culliton
1/4/18: Angela Tessinari & David Kreizman
1/5/18: David Shaughnessy & David Kreizman
1/8/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Carolyn Culliton
1/9/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Lisa Connor
1/10/18: Grant A. Johnson & Rebecca McCarty
1/11/18: Grant A. Johnson & David Kreizman
1/12/18: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton
1/15/18: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton
1/16/18: Steven Williford & Rebecca McCarty
1/17/18: Phil Sogard & Carolyn Culliton
1/18/18: Phil Sogard & Richard Culliton
1/19/18: Sonia Blangiardo & David Kreizman
1/22/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Lisa Connor
1/23/18: Scott McKinsey & Lisa Connor
1/24/18: Scott McKinsey & David Kreizman
1/25/18: Steven Williford & Lisa Connor
1/26/18: Phil Sogard & Carolyn Culliton
1/29/18: David Shaughnessy & Richard Culliton
1/30/18: David Shaughnessy & Rebecca McCarty
1/31/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Sarah Jenkins

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[sonia38]

Ron must still think he’s writing for GH. I beginning to think he hates the character of Sonny so he’s destroying the character so Paul and Will can be together. I Don’t see any signs of this changing so for my own sanity I’ll just take a break.

[shaunjohn401]

Jan 31, 2018 18:54:05 GMT -5 sonia38 said:

Ron must still think he’s writing for GH. I beginning to think he hates the character of Sonny so he’s destroying the character so Paul and Will can be together. I Don’t see any signs of this changing so for my own sanity I’ll just take a break.

Yes I understand! It seems like Sonny is getting thrown under the bus for Will and Paul. Steve is Sonny's uncle so its not like he couldn't be in this story. I want to like Will and Paul but they are so heavy-handed with it.

[elliot]

I've been complaining about the very same thing but now I'm pretty convinced that all we've had so far is the set up and that the real story has yet to happen. That story will focus on Will and Paul getting closer but also Sonny having to move on with his life. That will all go to hell when Will gets his memory back.

On other boards and this one, Paul fans want to believe that Will won't get his memory back but that won't be the case because the central point of this SL is what actions Will takes when he does remember who he is. By then things will be complicated by Sonny having moved on and by Will's attachment to Paul. What also needs to be addressed are the problems that the Wilson marriage ran into in the months before Will was murdered.

First off that wedding only happened because the recast of Will was unpopular and the then writers were desperate for ratings and had no other ideas what to do with the pairing. Will turning into a serial cheater also came about for that very same reason. And while cheating is somewhat of a soap staple, this one came completely out of the blue. Will later reasons that he cheated because he feared Sonny had only married him because he'd been rejected by Paul but that really doesn't fly because Will then confesses to having cheated in LA before Paul was even on the canvas. At the time Guy Wilson admitted he had a hard time even mouthing the dialogue because he rightly did not believe that Will would have slept with some random man whilst he was with Sami in Hollywood. But it is now canon and needs to be addressed and dealt with when Will eventually regains his memory and realises what an idiot he has been.

Right now the story is dull because this so called bond Will is supposed to have with Paul is nothing more than a plot device and because Will and Sonny barely spent any time together before Will up and filed for divorce in order to chase down Paul, a man he went to his grave hating. Meanwhile Paul is supposed to be in love with Sonny but is stupidly becoming entangled with Will, even though he must know Will is only keen on him because his memory has been wiped. Why we, the audience, would invest in this nonsense is a mystery to me.

[justinate]

I don't see Sonny being thrown under the bus, because I saw him behaving like this even in the early days of his marriage to Will, which contributed to Will's adulterous affairs. People don't seem to want to acknowledge that Sonny (and his family, the in-laws from hell) put a lot of expectations on Will, who was barely out of his teens and never had the chance to explore his sexuality before landing in a relationship with Sonny. Will was told repeatedly that he was not good enough for Sonny. He was treated like he couldn't even be trusted with the marital finances, but Sonny could blow it any way he wanted. Will's self-esteem was at an all-time low, and the attention from another, very attractive man must've been incredibly flattering to Will and he allowed himself to get carried away.

I do think it's a given that Will recovers his memory at some point but it will be interesting to see what he remembers - only the good times with Sonny? Will he remember how he was beaten down again and again by the Kiriakis clan? Will he remember how hot the sex with Paul was? It may be a double-edged sword. Frankly I haven't liked Sonny in a very long time and WilSon is not a pairing that appeals to me so I hope they won't get back together. I particularly dislike that Ari is always going to tie WilSon together because Sonny has belatedly decided to become her dad after abandoning the girl twice. I would rather Will and Paul get separate love interests and Sonny go off to Europe (alone, but I'll throw in Brian or Brent as a consolation prize).

Steve is Will's great-uncle and John is his step-grandfather so I don't see anything wrong with him being involved in this story. It makes a lot more sense than Paul teaming up with Sonny when they've just had an acrimonious breakup with Sonny giving Paul a verbal thrashing every other time they cross paths. And Paul like the lovelorn doormat he is, just takes it every single time. Grow a backbone Narita!

[jjose712]

Even before his marriage. He pressured Will when he was obviously not ready for any type of commitment.
And now he is doing the same mistake, he broke with Paul like he was a kleenex, and he put pressure on Will to be the lovely husband (he never was).
Sonny has reasons to be angry and to be sad, but that doesn't change the fact that he acted very wrong in this whole situation.

And people like it or not, this story is going to involve the three characters so it's wise to make the bond between Paul and Will something more than Will being excited everytime Paul is around.
And i predict people will put all the blame on Paul when he and Will share more than a kiss, when the truth is no matter how he feels for Sonny he has all the right to have sex with whoever he wants.
It would be very soapy if he decided to have sex with Will at the first opportunity just to upset Sonny, it would be out of character but perfectly normal soap behaviour for any heterosexual character.

And i like new Will. Chandler was always good (maybe a little boring in the months before being fired) but now he doesn't fear to show Will's desire.
And i find the storyline way more entertaining than anything that happened in the last two years.

And i totally agree with Brian, Brent or Derrick coming back in the picture

[elliot]

I don't understand the claim that Will, was not ready for any kind of commitment, or that he was forced into a relationship by Sonny.

Sonny waited over a year before making any kind of a move on Will. Before that happened, Will was a regular at the local gay club and was involved with Neil, who incidentally, was the first man that Will kisses. So the claim that Will never had the chance to explore his sexuality is patently untrue. On top of that, after Will came fully out, Marlena suggested that he enjoy life as a single gay man but Will tells her that he only wants to be with Sonny. This happens without any kind of coercion from Sonny.

After a few misunderstandings Will and Sonny decide to go on a date. Adrienne is not keen on Will and Sonny getting together as she correctly believes Will has too many issues. Despite this, Will and Sonny continue with their relationship. Adrienne later apologises to Will and accepts that he and Sonny are a good fit. By the time they get together, Will has already impregnated Gabi. Will agrees to move in with Sonny just before the reveal that he is Gabi's baby daddy. And when Sonny dumps him Will works hard to get Sonny back. That is Will voluntarily committing to this relationship without any kind of coercion from Sonny or anyone else.

Nine months later, Will is a father and he commits to full parental responsibilities alongside Gabi. He has no problem with Sonny wanting to be involved, or Sonny having rented a two bedroom apartment in order for both of them to be full time fathers. In fact Will is pleased to be given the chance to live as part of a stable family, something he never had while he was growing up. And it was the main reason behind his decision to allow his child to be raised by Nick and Gabi. Again there is no coercion from Sonny.

So no one forces Will into getting involved with Sonny, no one forces him to commit to living with Sonny, or into them raising his daughter together. In fact it is Will who worries that he is the one who has forced Sonny into a life of domesticity. Anything else is a clumsy retcon, just as the notion that it was Will who seduced Paul into sleeping with him is a clumsy retcon.

[shaunjohn401]

A lot to get too.

Chandler and Guy have said in interviews that Will needs Sonny. Sonny has never pressured Will into loving him. I just read some of the recaps and after Sonny kissed Will  he talked to Marlena about how he felt about Sonny he found him with Brian and that why he had sex with Gabi. Will low self esteem  had to do Sami and Lucas and how he was raised. It makes Will sound like a weak character IMO when people said Sonny "pressured" into a relationship. Will always loved Sonny but he was to young to get married and that Will's fault. He is a grown man a young grown man but a adult. He made his own choices.
I see Elliot got to the Sonny pressured Will thing. 

Paul talking to Will about John doesn't make that much sense. Hope, Abe, Rafe, Eric, Brady are people that would have made more sense than Will. I don't care about Will been in this story but it a weak plot point.

The reasons I feel Sonny is gotten thrown under the bus for Will and Paul have been said mostly by Elliot. I will say the writing for Sonny has been horrible and it didn't start with Ron. He is hard to root for but Will has still acted worst than Sonny. If Paul is not mad at Will who has done  worst things to him than Sonny it's doesn't make sense for him to want to get even with Sonny. Also Sonny said he was sorry to Paul the last time they saw each other. If you go to twitter or some of the different forums some (not all) of the people who what Will and Paul to get together don't even like Will. You should see some of the colorful names they call him. They just seem mad at Sonny and that the point.

If or when they bring a fourth gay hope it not a island character. Hopefully he will have collects outside of the trio like Reid from ATWT but i hope he has family in town.

[0ldsouls]

I love Will and he's the only reason I started watching the show again. I also loved Will and Sonny, but sadly I personally feel their time has past. I don't feel the same spark between the two characters that I used to and I think moving both of them on from each other is both realistic and the best thing for them. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see them become best friends and co-parent Ari with Gabi, but sadly I'm not rooting for them as a couple. I love Will and Paul together, simply because of how well they play off of each other and the fact I think this Will fits with Paul better. Will is the more fun and forward personality, whereas Paul is more serious and rigid at times; they really fit.

I don't think people want Will and Paul together due to the supposed bad writing of Sonny, some people like me simply feel both Will and Sonny have outgrown each other. Sonny has been nowhere near the same person he was back when he and Will fell in love for years. This is mostly due to the fact that Freddie wanted to play a more family business focused Sonny who had more of an "edge" upon his return. So this has little to do with TPTB and more to do to the actor. Also, I'm starting to suspect FS may not be renewing his contract this year. He did say a few times he wanted to retire when he was 30. Also, I do believe that if/when Will gets his memory back, he's going to be a changed person and still most likely not mesh well with this current Sonny.

I love how their story is progressing for Paul/Will and the fact that they're being slowly built, with an interesting mystery SL; like some of the super couples of the 80s-90s. I think this speaks to the fact that they may be a lasting thing on the show. Paul going to Sonny makes no sense, just because he apologized to Paul doesn't mean Paul forgave him. He is obviously still upset with the way he was treated, he even told Will he was done playing for second best. All Paul's friends were Sonny's friends he really doesn't have anyone else outside Jarlena, but Will so I get why he wanted to involve Will in this, also Will is intimately tied into this SL due to Jarlena.

[jjose712]

Oh yes, he was very prepared, that's the reason that he prefered going to jail that confess that at the time of the crime he was accused he was hooking with a guy.
And nothing shows better preparation than getting your exgirlfriend pregnant before accepting your feelings for a guy.

Will loved Sonny, Sonny moved the relationship at a pace that he can't follow. With the best intentions of course, but that doesn't change the fact that it was too fast for Will.

And with that i don't blame Sonny for the faliure of the relationship, Will was very busy scheming with EJ at that time

And i still don't think Sonny was thrown under the bus. It's true that Sonny is very far from the lovely guy who came to Salem, and he makes mistakes in the way he treated Paul and the way he pressured Will, but i don't think the writers are showing him being mean, he simply didn't deal well with a difficult situation and he is acting out of frustration that the things are not working the way he expected.
It's not like he did something unredeamable. The writers are only making the way to put a love triangle in display, and for that they need Will and Paul to bond.
Making Sonny a rootable character again it'll be very easy.
And i hope that the writers take advantage of something that hetero couples don't have, in a gay love triangle things can go either way (if you don't make any of them and unredameble villain, which doesn't seem to be the case) and don't knowing how things will turn make this way more interesting that the tireless endgame couple with an disposable obstacle in their way

[elliot]

^^^^Paul's fans have time and time again sought to justify his decision to dump Sonny in favour of pursuing a baseball career. He was young, he wasn't out to his family, he loved baseball and so on so forth. And they have stuck to this, even though it was only two years ago that Paul once again chose baseball over Sonny.

At the time Will was accused to murdering Stefano, he was much younger than Paul. He was not out to most of his family members and he was also well aware that as a Horton and a Brady the news that he had been visiting a gay club would be hot gossip all over town and that is exactly what happens. In fact it makes the front page in the local newspaper. Who wouldn't have wanted to avoid that?

And grief sex is a soap opera staple. There are precious few characters on Day who have not, at one time or the other had grief sex. It doesn't mean they are not ready to be in a relationship, it is simply grief sex.

And if Will and Sonny's relationship moved too fast how about Sonny and Paul, who got together and decided to marry within just one year? Or Will and Paul. Will has been back in town for all of five minutes and he has kissed Paul twice, moved into the same building as Paul and, although he has a daughter he should be bonding with, he prefers to spend his time trailing around behind Paul.

[shaunjohn401]

Soap Opera Digest  had one of their thumps down feature a few weeks ago and said that they were rooting for Will and Paul because of the way Sonny was acting. They didn't say anything about Will and Paul great chemistry or they were the next great super couple just about Sonny behavior. I don't know how or if you can post it here  but it's on the fan page above where they post videos. That some of what I see on-line and I'm sure it's not the majority (that why I Bold some) but it's some. I don't think Sonny is unredeemable but I think his more annoying personality traits are being pushed get us to root for Will and Paul. They did the same thing to Will for Sonny and Paul three years ago.



For the record I don't want Wilson getting back together anytime soon but they a popular pairing. And we talking about gay characters this show is not to bring on a lot of gays putting Will and Sonny in the friend zone permanently is crazy. They can be friends for now them getting back together should always be a possibility.

[shaunjohn401]

www.soapoperadigest.com/content/soap-superlatives-7/

This isn't the thumps down article that was in the magazine but at the end it says that Sonny is annoying and they are rooting for Will and Paul because of it. And that fine it just a TV show but let's not pretend  some fans aren't mad at Sonny.

[jjose712]

And what's exactly the problem with some fans being mad at Sonny? it's a soap, all the characters screw things up by turns.

And maybe my memory fails but it was not Paul who break up with Sonny to pursue a baseball career, it was Sonny breaking up with Paul because he decided to stay closeted.
And now, how many openly gay athletes are in the big 4 sports in the USA? Well, it's a big fat zero, so by now it seems that being openly gay and pursue a profesional sports career is not that compatible.
If something, the Paul-Sonny pre Days storyline is realistic.
Maybe in five years there will be a bunch of openly gay pro athletes in USA leagues, but for now, it's sciencice fiction.

And frankly i don't think it's comparable to stay closeted to pursue your dreams (something that even now a lot of not only athletes, but singers and actors, whose world seems to be so liberal, still do) than to stay in the closet when coming out will make you free of a murder investigation.
And that was not a critic to Will, it was simply a fact that he was not remotely ready for any type of commitment

And of course Sonny and Paul moved fast, the difference is that both were ready to move fast. Both were older, and both have a common past. And even with that, it was a mistake too, because if that were the right decision Sonny wouldn't dump Paul the way he did after Will was back in the picture

[elliot]

Of course some fans are mad at Sonny but those same fans were probably mad at Will when he was cheating and lying to Sonny nearly three years ago. Not to mention him blackmailing Paul's mother and trying to get Paul out of town. What makes no sense is for that to all be swept under the carpet in order to claim that Will and Paul is the better pairing. It fails to address just why Paul would want to be friends, let alone anything else with a man who could treat his mother in that way and could also cheat on the man he claimed to love. Or why Paul would be dumb enough to start a relationship with an amnesiac man who when he had memories was desperate to do everything he could to hold onto Sonny. None of this has even been discussed onscreen because the pairing is nothing more than a plot device.

What that one sided magazine piece also fails to note is that the majority of people still want Will and Sonny as endgame. We know this for a fact from the results of the various polls. Will those people suddenly back Will and Paul being together because Sonny wanted to contest the divorce that Will only wants because he has lost his memory and wants to sleep with Paul? That being the case it is no more than an attempt to stir the pot.

Another dumb thing about the piece is that it reasons that Will and Paul should be together only because Sonny is currently being annoying. Not that the pairing has great chemistry or will generate great stories. Right now all the writers have managed to do is to turn them into the soap equivalent of the Hardy boys investigating yet another mystery involving John, because heaven forbid that Paul has a SL that does not involve John, and if that is all they could come up with straight out of the gate it doesn't bode well for the future.

On the other hand, Will and Sonny must deal with Will's amnesia and his delusion that he is better off without his memories. Sonny must deal with watching Will moving on with Paul. Will and Sonny will need to find a way to co-parent Arianna. Sonny will have to find a way to move on himself and hopefully work out that being CEO of Titan is not where he should. Maybe he will find another romantic interest which would impact on both Will and Paul. Meanwhile there is also the issue of Will's memories returning and the choices he will face if that does. There is no guarantee that Sonny would even want him back, especially if he himself has moved on, but even if he does what about Paul? But is Will really ready to let go of Sonny and watch him move with someone one else in favour of Paul, a man he only got with because his memories were missing? And ben if Sonny and Will decide to get back together, they must still address the reason why their marriage went so badly wrong. That is the material for strong compelling storytelling and why Paul and Will as an endgame makes no long term sense.

[0ldsouls]

I love Will and Paul working together to solve this mystery with John. I think this was a great way to start off their friendship. I don't know why people seem to dislike this idea, since this is how a lot of the old super couples on soaps fell in love. It's pure soapy goodness, and I'm happy they're writing the SL as a natural storyline and tying Will and Paul into their families lives. I think the fact they went this route is a testament to the fact that this relationship is going to a lasting one. If Will gets his memory back eventually, perhaps we will get a WilSon reunion, but maybe not. As someone else mentioned; this could be a double edged sword, especially when it comes to Sonny; Will isn't only going to remember the good times and Sonny as a person is a FAR cry from the person he used to be when the old Will fell in love with him. Personally, I predict a short WilSon reunion with Will going the way of Marlena and choosing Paul in the end. Sonny and Will are too different and once Will remembers, he is also going to have the new memories he experienced from of the last few years, so I don't think he is ever going to be the "old" Will some of the WilSon shippers seem to hope he is going to be.

Feb 2, 2018 9:27:04 GMT -5 justinate said:

I don't see Sonny being thrown under the bus, because I saw him behaving like this even in the early days of his marriage to Will, which contributed to Will's adulterous affairs. People don't seem to want to acknowledge that Sonny (and his family, the in-laws from hell) put a lot of expectations on Will, who was barely out of his teens and never had the chance to explore his sexuality before landing in a relationship with Sonny. Will was told repeatedly that he was not good enough for Sonny. He was treated like he couldn't even be trusted with the marital finances, but Sonny could blow it any way he wanted. Will's self-esteem was at an all-time low, and the attention from another, very attractive man must've been incredibly flattering to Will and he allowed himself to get carried away.

This is one of the main reasons why I love Will and Paul together. Sonny and his family were responsible for making Will worthless before they even starting dating. I can understand why Will would feel flattered by an attractive man who was interested in him when his self-esteem and self-worth was at an all time low. I mean he HAD to take the job with Paul because Sonny was after blowing their money. The way Sonny's parents acted when the cheating got exposed was disgusting, especially given the fact Justin was also cheating at the same time- what irony! Yet, Will was the one to be dragged over the coals. I want him nowhere near that family and would even sacrifice having Sonny and Paul getting back together to keep Will away from that family, Sonny included. Sonny IMO is in love with the the "idea" of Will and what he represents; a family, a home and a partner. He never respected Will, simply saw Will as a prize to be won, the same thing happened to Paul after Will died; Paul became the new prize. 

[elliot]

^^^^Sonny's family never ganged together to make Will feel worthless. Justin fully supported Will and Sonny being together and so did Victor. Adrienne was the only one who worried that Will had too many issues to be in a relationship with Sonny and would hurt him. And she was proved right when Will lied for months about being GabI's daddy and when he later cheated on Sonny with two different men. Adrienne had also worried that Sonny was putting his life on hold in order to play baby daddy to Will's child, which is again a natural reaction for a parent to have given the circumstances. At the same time you fail to mention that Lucas was also not happy for Will to get involved with Sonny and on two separate occasions tried to break them up by persuading Will that Sonny was only using him. On the first occasion it is actually Adrienne who tries to get Lucas to see that Will and Sonny are good together.

And if Victor believed that Will was worthless why does he get him a job on one of his own magazines?

How should Sonny's family have dealt with the news that Will cheated on him not once but on two separate occasions? Parents don't like to see their children hurt and they will generally give those doing the hurting a very hard time. How do you imagine Sami and Lucas would have treated Sonny if he had been the one to cheat on Will? Sami would probably have sicced her goons on him and Lucas would've been egging her on.

And Will was cheating long before he ever met Paul. By his own admission he had cheated on Sonny with a random man in Hollywood. That was also before Sonny had spent their money and before their relationship had run into real problems. Sonny repeatedly tries to contact Will in Hollywood but Will can't be bothered to make time for him. Will can't even be bothered to spare any time for Lucas when he visits him. So the suggestion that Will's lack of self confidence and self worth is the reason for his cheating makes no sense.

Will's previous cheating tells us that, for him, Paul was no more special than the nameless faceless man in Hollywood.

When Will first encounters Paul, Paul flirts with him and tries to get him to drink champagne. Will declines and the interview goes ahead. Kate reads the interview and feels that it is lacking. She also feels that Paul is hiding something. Will believes he knows what it is and returns to Paul's hotel room and flat out asks if he is gay. Paul admits that he is and they sleep together. After that Will begins suggesting that Paul uses the piece to come out. Does that sound like the actions of a man lacking self worth and self esteem, or a journalist after a story?

First off Paul and Will are not solving any mystery they've simply been shoved into this SL because the writers have no idea what else to do with them. People who should be included in this SL such as John's son Brady, who hasn't even noticed that John is behaving oddly. Meanwhile Sonny, who is Steve's nephew, Adrienne who is Steve's sister, Abigail, Steve's niece, JJ Steve's nephew and Tripp, Steve's son haven't noticed that poor Steve is going blind and receiving medical attention. And that's because they have other SLs that they are involved with and are not hanging around town like a spare wheel in need of something to do.

Secondly how many more times are we to see Paul running around solving mysteries involving John? If it was soapy goodness two years ago, which is debatable, it isn't any more, it's just predictable and tired. In fact I predict that when this SL wraps up Paul will once again run around town solving a mystery involving John. And I predict he'll run around town solving another of John's mysteries after that.

[bonniegirl]

I am really loving the story right now. CS and CM have amazing chemistry, and it is very soapy for Paul and Will to work together and build on their friendship. I think there is a lot of excitement about this pairing. Cannot wait!!

[elliot]

^^^If there really was a lot of excitement for this pairing, all the people who used to post on this board prior to Chandler Massey leaving would be back. However they've chosen to stay away.

And bear in mind that Soap Digest are not saying they are excited about the pairing. They simply feel that Sonny is being annoying.

Meanwhile every poll I've seen bar one, have Will and Sonny as the runaway choice for endgame. Heck, even Chandler Massey, in an interview for SoapHub wants Wilson as the endgame.

[0ldsouls]

Feb 3, 2018 16:08:09 GMT -5 elliot said:

^^^If there really was a lot of excitement for this pairing, all the people who used to post on this board prior to Chandler Massey leaving would be back. However they've chosen to stay away.

And bear in mind that Soap Digest are not saying they are excited about the pairing. They simply feel that Sonny is being annoying.

Meanwhile every poll I've seen bar one, have Will and Sonny as the runaway choice for endgame. Heck, even Chandler Massey, in an interview for SoapHub wants Wilson as the endgame.

The majority of people on this board are liking Will and Paul. Honestly, I see more support for Will and Paul on social media as well as other boards, so I don't see your point. I also don't understand the need to try to argue with every point made here, people simply love the couple. You like Will and Sonny. This is a soap opera, there is no endgame scenario here. They mix couples up all the time, sometimes they go back to each other, and other times they don't. It's the nature of things. I don't care about Sonny personally. I stopped caring about his story long before Will was murdered. Me liking Paul and Will has NOTHING to do with Sonny being annoying, I'm just not interested in his character anymore and how the actor playing him is playing him. 

Also, I just want to address these polls you keep mentioning. Horita lost to WilSon by 20% that is not a "landslide" and that poll was done a day or two after they shared their first scene together! Paul and Will haven't even gotten started, they're in the build-up phase and the chemistry they share is palpable. Paul is slowly softening towards Will and once they get together they're going to be magic. I also like the pairing because as the previous poster mentioned, CM and CS seem like such good friends and truly love working together. It really comes out in their scenes, you can see that they have a great relationship outside of work and it helps IMO.

[0ldsouls]

Feb 3, 2018 16:39:30 GMT -5 0ldsouls said:

Feb 3, 2018 16:08:09 GMT -5 elliot said:

^^^If there really was a lot of excitement for this pairing, all the people who used to post on this board prior to Chandler Massey leaving would be back. However they've chosen to stay away.

And bear in mind that Soap Digest are not saying they are excited about the pairing. They simply feel that Sonny is being annoying.

Meanwhile every poll I've seen bar one, have Will and Sonny as the runaway choice for endgame. Heck, even Chandler Massey, in an interview for SoapHub wants Wilson as the endgame.

The majority of people on this board are liking Will and Paul. Honestly, I see a lot of support for Will and Paul all over social media and other larger sites, so I don't see your point.  I also don't understand the need to try to argue with every point made here, people simply love the couple. You like Will and Sonny. This is a soap opera, there is no endgame scenario here. They mix couples up all the time, sometimes they go back to each other, and other times they don't. It's the nature of things. I don't care about Sonny personally. I stopped caring about his story long before Will was murdered. Me liking Paul and Will has NOTHING to do with Sonny being annoying, I'm just not interested in his character anymore and how the actor playing him is playing him. 

Also, I just want to address these polls you keep mentioning. Horita lost to WilSon by 20% that is not a "landslide" and that poll was done a day or two after they shared their first scene together! Paul and Will haven't even gotten started, they're in the build-up phase and the chemistry they share is palpable. Paul is slowly softening towards Will and once they get together they're going to be magic. I also like the pairing because as the previous poster mentioned, CM and CS seem like such good friends and truly love working together. It really comes out in their scenes, you can see that they have a great relationship outside of work and it helps IMO.

[elliot]

^^^^The point I just made is that there is barely anyone posting on this board. Numbers of regular posters barely add up to ten. Only two of us even bother to post spoilers. That is because posters who like Wilson are not bothering to post here and haven't done ever since the recast, the murder and now this terrible SL.

And if the Will/Paul pairing is as popular as you say it shouldn't lose out to Wilson in any poll.

In three polls held just last month:

Twitter DaysFan28 - Wilson won hands down.

Twitter Laniece Hill who is a Paul/Will fan - Wilson won hands down.

We Love Soap poll is which held each week the Will/Sonny pairing won out three times. The last being January 8-12

I also don't understand your need to cry down every point other people make who don't care for the Will/Paul pairing or this SL. You even argue about my use of the word landslide.