Days Of Our Lives - General Discussion

[harmonium]

At the end of the day, it is not fair to compare Will/Sonny pairing to Will/Paul pairing.
Will/Sonny pairing has gone through a lot as a couple and there was a platform to set off their romance and relationship.
As of now, we can't say the same for Will/Paul. Because viewers have not get enough opportunities to see the Will/Paul pairing with CM as Will.
So who knows, if the writing is good and the chemistry is great between CM and CS, viewers may get receptive to the idea of Will/Paul pairing.
Even for me, who is more of a Paul/Sonny fan has now become very interested in the Will(CM)/Paul pairing as opposed to the Will(GW)/Paul pairing.

And also, my belief is that people who love Will/Sonny pairing is because CM is now playing as Will.
If it is still GW, I doubt people will still want Will/Sonny pairing.

[Zathras]

Folks, don't claim to speak for others. I’m reading far too many comments projecting what they think are the opinions of others, either specifically or in generalities (e.g. "the majority"). Let them speak for themselves; don't assume.

Similarly, we don't all see the same events and come to the same conclusions, or have the same opinions. That's fine, and discussing those perspectives is why we're here. But don't act like your opinion is the only valid opinion.



On topic...

I guess I have no real preference for any particular pairing on this show right now. I didn't like the direction the show took with the couple before Will "died". It was far too plot-driven for my taste, making the characters do things that didn't make sense to me. That killed a lot of my interest, to the extent that - to this day - I never watched Will's funeral and Sonny leaving Salem.

I'm not fully caught up (my whole January was crazy), but it seems like there are bits of plot-driven development now, but that's not the whole story. At the outset of Will's return, Sonny got really focused and tried to push Will to much for my taste. I was a little disappointed at how quickly he dropped Paul; he didn't seem to be as torn as I would have expected. I probably would have preferred a more drawn-out process from him.

As for Will, I don't think it's fair to attribute all of Will's old feelings onto him right now. He is totally disconnected from his old attachments to his friends, family, Sonny, Ari, Sami, etc. As hard as it is for them, I just can't fault Will for not seeking out the connections he used to have. If he doesn't feel it and he doesn't know it, why should he? He quickly saw Sami's horrendous side. I would blame Will for turning away if that's how his family behaves. I also don't blame him for turning away from Sonny's pressure. Will is rebuilding himself, his identity and sense of who he is.

So Will is clearly attracted to Paul. He was 3-ish years ago, and I don't blame him . I don't think it's wrong of him to explore that. I have no idea if it will last very long, but it's his choice to explore that. I still can't fault him for not feeling obligated to just fall in line with the desires and expectations of those around him - they're all strangers to him now. I, too, would recoil if a group of strangers put a lot of pressure of expectations on me. It does have me thinking back a few years and asking the question "why did Will end up with Sonny?" Unfortunately I don't remember the details very well any more .

[overtherainbow]

Does anyone know where I can watch Will's storyline? I need to catch up as it's finally starting to get good again

[jjose712]

I think people posted two places to follow the storyline


www.facebook.com/WillHortonSonnyKiriakis


paulandsonny.wordpress.com

The facebook page update faster but skip the scenes where Paul is not with Will or Sonny so i prefer the other.
Frankly i liked way more to follow the storyline on youtube. No so long ago there was a poster who uploaded the scenes. Unfortunately he started to upload the whole show so i suppose he was banned.
It's quite rare that nobody upload the storyline on youtube, hopefully someone will do it soon, it's way easier to follow and generally people upload really fast

[lexmoon]

Feb 5, 2018 10:10:03 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

Does anyone know where I can watch Will's storyline? I need to catch up as it's finally starting to get good again

try here
Chandler Massey & Freddie Smith Fan Group

[jjose712]

Feb 5, 2018 17:53:40 GMT -5 lexmoon said:

Feb 5, 2018 10:10:03 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

Does anyone know where I can watch Will's storyline? I need to catch up as it's finally starting to get good again

try here
Chandler Massey & Freddie Smith Fan Group

Well, i can't try that because i don't have a facebook account (and nothing in this world right now will make me create one).

Hopefully with a little time someone will post the storyline on youtube. It's way easier to follow it there

[dylan]

The trouble is the copyright, any time someone tries to post anything related to Days of our Lives on youtube it is very quickly removed. They're really cracked down on that for some reason.

[jjose712]

Feb 6, 2018 15:50:58 GMT -5 dylan said:

The trouble is the copyright, any time someone tries to post anything related to Days of our Lives on youtube it is very quickly removed. They're really cracked down on that for some reason.

In these days that's a very absurd way of act. I understand blocking videos of the whole show, but videos focusing in a couple of characters only promote the show.

Telecinco, here in Spain, has a very similar estrategy. They are airing The Voice, while tve is airing Operación triunfo. The format is not the same (because in Operación triunfo they live in an academy and they show their life, with all the classes and rehearsals). Both shows have a similar audience, but the effect was totally different. Even the first eliminated contestants of Operación triunfo became way more popular than the finalists of The voice. The youtube channel brought new audiences to tve, and what it could end being a failure revival ended being the phenomenon of the season. And all due to the right promo on internet.

Given how soaps are dying, i think every promo which brings more fans to the show should be wellcome instead of banned

[dylan]

Yeah I totally agree with you. Especially since just a month or two after the soap opera episodes air they basically disappear from the internet. There's no way to watch episodes from 2012, for example. I don't get why they are so strict about this considering that they don't make any money on these old episodes anymore.

It used to be different - back in 2013 people were able to post DOOL videos on youtube without any issue.

[lexmoon]

Will and Paul 9-2-2018

[jjose712]

I know there are a lot of Wilson fans but skipping all Paul scenes in the videos makes very difficult to follow the whole storyline

[jjose712]

And nobody uploaded the videos of this week. Frankly it's very difficult to follow the storyline this way

[bonniegirl]

Feb 18, 2018 7:19:24 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

And nobody uploaded the videos of this week. Frankly it's very difficult to follow the storyline this way

They were not on at all this week, no Will, Paul or Sonny. Tomorrow the story should pick up.

[jjose712]

Feb 18, 2018 8:53:04 GMT -5 bonniegirl said:

Feb 18, 2018 7:19:24 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

And nobody uploaded the videos of this week. Frankly it's very difficult to follow the storyline this way

They were not on at all this week, no Will, Paul or Sonny. Tomorrow the story should pick up.

I thought there were spoilers for them this week. The pace is really strange because Will was supposely shooted the last time we saw him, given that it was a cliffhanger i wasn't expect them to wait more than a week to solve it

[bonniegirl]

Jjose712, I agree that with the cliffhanger of Will and Paul possibly being shot that the pacing of the story is bizarre. There are too many SLs going on at once to really do any of them justice IMO.

[0ldsouls]

All the boys filmed a lot from March onward if the BTS stuff is anything to go by. I think the purpose of the poisoning SL was to simply bring Will and Paul closer and starting around March is probably when we’re going to see them move into dating territory and becoming a couple. From March onward the shift that was mentioned previously (more Will focused like the fall) will be in full swing.

[bonniegirl]

Feb 18, 2018 17:27:15 GMT -5 0ldsouls said:

All the boys filmed a lot from March onward if the BTS stuff is anything to go by. I think the purpose of the poisoning SL was to simply bring Will and Paul closer and starting around March is probably when we’re going to see them move into dating territory and becoming a couple. From March onward the shift that was mentioned previously (more Will focused like the fall) will be in full swing.

Thanks for the info. Looking forward to tomorrow’s show!!

[hfolk]

I know it's not a popular opinion, but I wish they'd give Will & Paul a chance at let Sonny find someone else

[0ldsouls]

Feb 18, 2018 18:35:55 GMT -5 hfolk said:

I know it's not a popular opinion, but I wish they'd give Will & Paul a chance at let Sonny find someone else

I don't think this is a very unpopular opinion at all. Will and Paul are generating a really positive response. I think they are much better suited personality wise, since they balance each other out. I find them very similar in that sense to Sami and Ej, since Lucas never really understood Sami's true nature and tried to change it; whereas Ej accepted it. I loved how Will and Paul call each other out and are not afraid to stick up for themselves in their friendship. It's refreshing, and a very different dynamic than Sonny had with Will; constantly talking down to Will and Will always feeling like he owed Sonny for simply being with him. Will/Sonny are too unbalanced for me to ever be able to root for them again, which is sad because I used to be Wilson's number one supporter.

I think we're in for a good amount of Paul and Will for a while. Who knows if Will ever gets his memories back; it has been hinted several times on the show that even if he does he still may not want Sonny. I personally can't see Will falling in love with this current Sonny even if he does. They're too different. I think we're in for a Wilson reunion at some point but I think Ron may switch it up. It's a soap so you can't really say a couple is endgame, look at Sami/Lucas a very loved couple amongst fans, shared two children, met when they were teenagers and we're on/off throughout the years and even got married. All similar reasons why people say Will and Sonny are endgame. Yet, Sami/Ej was the pairing they went with.

Greg R. is also coming the end of March and I think he is for Sonny. 

[hfolk]

the Sonny that got together with Will seems to be know more, he's turned into a ruthless corporate suit

[elliot]

Seriously, it's as if the writers can't be bothered to flesh out this SL in any meaningful way. Lucas and Will haven't shared a scene since their encounter in the square when Lucas was drunk and Will got kidnapped before they'd exchanged more than a few words. Now we are led to believe that since leaving rehab this is the very first time Lucas has bothered to seek Will out and even then their meeting seemed to be down to chance rather than anything else. How does this gel with the Lucas who was weeping and wailing over Will's grave and drinking himself to death because he felt he had nothing left to live for?

And what happens during what should have been a compelling and emotional scene?

Lucas rambles on about his 12 part recovery plan and doesn't bother to enquire about Will's memory, his state of mind, how he is supporting himself and if he is undergoing any kind of treatment or therapy to get his memory back. Despite this and the fact we've seen no evidence of them bonding, Will refers to this man who is a complete stranger to him as 'dad' and they share a hug. The encounter lasts less than two minutes and Will immediately returns to obsessing about Paul.

Now I know that the Will/Paul romance is supposed to be an important part of this SL but it is impossible to show Will having other concerns and meaningful interactions that don't involve Paul? What happened about the job he was supposed to get at the pub, which would have enabled him to spend time with Roman and Eric? How about having him talk to Marlena about his amnesia and his kid rather than these repetitive conversations about Paul? How about having him spend time with his cousin Eli, who he has no past with and therefore no pressure? How about having him trying to get to know his kid, or give Gabi, who is currently facing a murder charge, some support?

I can't work out whether this is just an example of abysmal writing, or that TPTB are simply going through the motions with the SL, treading water until Will eventually gets his memory back and the real story begins. Either way it can't come too soon.

[jjose712]

I hope someone starts to upload the storyline because i think i'm missing all the Paul parts not directly related to Will.
I know it's a Wilson facebook page but not uploading everything related to the storyline seems quite odd

[seanny]

Has anyone contacted the person who usually posts clips on Wordpress? He/she has been M.I.A since the beginning of the month.

[jason47]

FEBRUARY 2018 EPISODE RANKINGS & STATS:

DAILY CAST CHART: Review each day's cast list from February 2018 at www.jason47.com/days/castcharts2018.html

2018 Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this year (1/1/18-2/28/18), out of a total of 42 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com

Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes
1. Tyler Christopher (Stefan DiMera) 28
*. Marci Miller (Abigail DiMera) 28
3. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 27
4. Lamon Archey (Eli Grant) 22
*. Camila Banus (Gabi Henandez) 22
6. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) 21
*. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 21
*. Lauren Koslow (Kate DiMera) 21
9. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 20
10. Mary Beth Evans (Kayla Johnson) 19

February Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this month (2/1/18-2/28/18), out of a total of 20 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com

Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes
1. Marci Miller (Abigail DiMera) 14
2. Tyler Christopher (Stefan DiMera) 13
*. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 13
4. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) 12
*. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 12
6. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 10
*. Lamon Archey (Eli Grant) 10
*. Camila Banus (Gabi Henandez) 10
9. Mary Beth Evans (Kayla Johnson) 9
*. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans-8/Hattie Adams-2) 9
*. Stephen Nichols (Steve Johnson) 9

SET TOTALS: February 2018
Brady Pub...13
DiMera Mansion...11
Horton Town Square...11
Horton Town Square Private Area # 2...10
Chad's Bedroom (DiMera)...9
DiMera Mausoleum...9
Interrogation Room...9
Loft...8
Steve's Hospital Room...8
Kiriakis Mansion...7
Stefan's Bedroom (DiMera)...7
Detective Area...6
Nurses' Station...6
Andre's DiMera Office...5
Doug's Place...5
Alley...4
Hope's Office...4
Horton Cabin...3
Billie's Hospital Room...2
Eli's Room (Martin House)...2
Eve's Bedroom (Kiriakis)...2
Kayla's Office...2
Stefan's DiMera Office...2
DiMera Mausoleum Room...1
Eric's Room (Martin House)...1
Hope & Rafe's Bed Limbo...1
Pamela's ISA Office...1
Stefan's Bedroom (DiMera) (Closet Area)...1
Will's Room (Martin House)...1

DIRECTORS & SCRIPT WRITERS:
2/1/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Richard Culliton
2/2/18: Scott McKinsey & David Kreizman
2/5/18: Steven Williford & Rebecca McCarty
2/6/18: Albert Alarr & Carolyn Culliton
2/7/18: Grant A. Johnson & Sarah Jenkins
2/8/18: Albert Alarr & Lisa Connor
2/9/18: Grant A. Johnson & Lisa Connor
2/12/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Rebecca McCarty
2/13/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Richard Culliton
2/14/18: David Shaughnessy & Carolyn Culliton
2/15/18: Steven Williford & Joanna Cohen
2/16/18: Steven Williford & David Kreizman
2/19/18: Scott McKinsey & David Kreizman
2/20/18: Albert Alarr & Lisa Connor
2/21/18: Albert Alarr & Carolyn Culliton
2/22/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Richard Culliton
2/23/18: Sonia Blangiardo & Joanna Cohen
2/26/18: Angela Tessinari & Rebecca McCarty
2/27/18: Steven Williford & Lisa Connor
2/28/18: Steven Williford & Rebecca McCarty

www.jason47.com

[kevvoi]

Days of Our Lives was renewed for another season (no spoilers in article):

tvline.com/2018/03/08/days-of-our-lives-renewed-season-54-nbc/