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Post by sistertwist on Nov 20, 2010 0:03:22 GMT -5
That would be quite a twisty surprise! What do you think his motivation could be? Well, it's not a fully formed hypothesis, just a guess. What follows here is a bit rambling, so hopefully it's coherent. I was thinking it could be a subtle manipulation of circumstances. If he happened to know about (or have an inkling of) Ste and Brendan's relationship, he'd try to split them. Macca has said that he's in love with Brendan and, while that may be true, it could also be a cover. Macca came all the way to find Brendan; he must have had some kind of plan in mind. If he's really in love with Brendan, it could be borderline obsessive, which can cause people to do extreme things. If it's a cover, he could be trying to get revenge. So far, Ste's the primary person to suspect Brendan, which could play into it. It's so far had the effect of splitting up Brendan and Ste, which kind of makes Brendan available (although he's told Macca in no uncertain terms to leave). If he's in love, the motivation might be to hurt Amy or the kids, drive a wedge between Ste and Brendan, and swoop in. If it's for revenge, then trying to frame Brendan for arson (and potentially assault or murder) would also do the trick. It's just a far-fetched thought . Probably not true. "How come you do what he says?" ;D That was a hell of a change in Brendan's personality when Ste started screaming at him and pushing him off of Macca, though . He went from totally furious to subdued in 3 seconds flat. I don't think your guess far-fetched, but I think logistically it might not work since Macca was in hospital, though I suppose that doesn't mean he couldn't have slipped out for a little arson. And Brendan subdued! Who would have thought! It pained me a little to see Brendan wanting so badly to speak to Ste but knowing it wasn't the right time. That little sigh that escaped him before he left reminded me of the sigh he gave at the hospital when Ste chose to go home with Rae. The hurt that flickered across his features when Ste turned his face from him was so wonderful and sad all at the same time. Karma is working hard on this couple. I know most folks think Brendan is an irredeemable abuser as well as a jerk, but i am going to hold onto my hopes. I agree with cheerios about Brendan needing to change for himself not just Ste, but love can be a powerful catalyst. How did you guys read Ste's reaction to being told Brendan was in love with him? I saw confusion take over from anger, then it looked as if his expression softened a little. I am worried that I'm seeing what i want to, rather than what was portrayed.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 19, 2010 20:27:28 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-6vzIat3HU&feature=subToday's E4 ep, Monday on the "regular" channel. Nice one, I loved it. Macca is getting on my last nerve. He's just as manipulative as Brendan but without the charm or the hotness. Watch his face after Brendan tells him to go the first time. Or when he's "pumping" Ste for info about them. Speaking of Brendan looked like he was going to murder someone when he saw them kiss. Ste was so cute,"So you're like proper gay?" Heh. Then Brendan threw Lucky Charms against the wall like a ragdoll. He quickly changed his tune whenhe saw Ste and Brendan interact. Ste has more and more inluence over Brendan. Liked how Brendan turned calmly to Macca and told him to leave..again. But he turned hopefully to Ste and Ste turned away, leaving Brendan hurt.Brendan is Brendan but Macca you are not Ste. Brendan loves his Steven. Yes, yes and YES! This last episode made me so darn happy, but I think Anthony and Zathras might be right about Ste making the first move towards reconciliation. The writers went out their way to show Ste is still thinking about Brendan (a lot) so when he is cleared Ste gets to deal with the guilt for all those accusations and denials. I still hope Brendan has to work hard to get Ste back, but the tension is already building. I see serious sparks every time those two are on screen together, and the manhandling continues! Macca's disbelief was priceless. "Why do you do what he tells you?" I about fainted with joy. I can forgive Macca almost anything now that he has told us what i wanted most to know, so Rae is the one working my last nerve. It's not even that she is interfering in a relationship I care about, it's her incredibly self-centered attitude that keeps disappointing me. She gives so little thought to the consequences of her actions and she seems only to care about how things relate to her. I know we all can be selfish at times, but really, outting Cheryl's brother while she is dealing with her best friend's death? That really is inexcusable in my book. I guess i can try to chalk it up to being young.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 19, 2010 10:42:22 GMT -5
All this talk about Macca fits into a thought that's been forming in my mind for the last few days. What if Macca started the fire? That would be quite a twisty surprise! What do you think his motivation could be? @cheerios Glad to give you a grin. After reading your last post i went back and watched the hospital scene again, and you are so right about Brendan looking sad.. i might even go as far as to say he looked briefly hurt. Such a nice subtle touch for a character that is usually so over the top. As much as a love this storyline, I think the actors are what really addict me to it. They are such a pleasure to watch.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 18, 2010 18:05:39 GMT -5
So many good insights! I hadn't even considered that Macca might want revenge, and it makes good sense. Better sense to me than him wanting Brendan back, though the writers have certainly implied Bren is truly something between the sheets. Cheerios I think you bring up a good point about Macca causing Bren's family life to collapse. That does seem to be one of the consistent things about Brendan, he values his family especially his kids. The way Brendan looks at Macca I don't see even a hint of any former affection, only thinly veiled outrage at the very sight of him. And you have another good point about Brendan not even knowing Amy was there that night. I completely forgot about that! I agree with you about Brendan not be the arsonist for the same reasons, plus if he really was guilty I feel there would be no way in hell Ste would ever take up with him again, and i don't think we could respect him if he did. I am so anxious to see how their next encounter plays out.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 18, 2010 4:02:21 GMT -5
I wonder what Macca was like before falling under Brendan's spell. Macca may not be on the level Brendan is, but he's a very good manlipulator all on his own. I can't agree with you more! At first i was very sympathetic towards Macca but the more that is revealed about about him the more I begin to worry. Shades of fatal attraction it seems to me. I wonder if that is part of why Brendan does not care for him any more, rather than it just being a discovery thing. people keep finding out about Ste, but Brendan keeps doing what he can to keep the relationship going rather than chucking it like he did with macca. and Zathras, I think (hope) you are right about rae. Her attitude about the whole situation has turned my overall annoyance with her into genuine dislike. Personally i hope Brendan has to work hard to get Ste back because i think it will raise his value in Brendan's eyes and maybe he will treat him better, but i can easily see a very contrite Ste trying to reconcile. I wonder how much of this is already set in stone and how much the writers change on the fly as the fans reactions to the story filter in. On a side note can you believe how much manhandling Brendan is putting up with from Ste?! The lad has pushed him, poked him shoved him and all but punched him so far. Brendan keeps glancing down at Ste's hands like he can't believe it himself. I want to see it as a sign that Brendan's feelings are more than superficial rather than he is just a manipulator choosing his moment, but that might just be my wishful thinking again.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 17, 2010 20:25:35 GMT -5
If Brendan is not the arsonist, he will get a very sorry Ste in his hands again. He will do anything to get Brendan forgiveness, and he will be very alone. Do you think a sorry Ste will make the first move, or will Brendan have to work a bit to get him back? Rae complicates things a bit as well. I think Ste might try to cling to that relationship especially with Amy leaving.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 17, 2010 5:21:42 GMT -5
Thank you for the response Zathras. The logical part of me agrees with you about a massive personality change, but the fangirl in me simply wants them on screen together. My objectivity has gone out the window so I value the voice of reason even if i don't like what it says. I think until Brendan crosses the line into what I see as inexcusable malice I will hold onto the unrealistic (but soapy) expectation that he can and will change..a bit. I really do think we saw a few baby steps before things got messy, and honestly I just want him to stop hitting Ste. If bren ceases to let fear rule him i think much of the violence will come to an end, and at this point it seems everyone and their sister knows the "big secret" about his sexuality. To continue all the threats seems a bit silly, but soaps sure can get silly.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 16, 2010 17:30:13 GMT -5
Do you think the relationship dynamic will change if Brendan wins Ste back to his side? I just don't see Ste letting himself be abused again at this point, but I can imagine them taking up again together once Ste finds out Brendan didn't set the fire. Wishful thinking?
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 15, 2010 5:07:20 GMT -5
Hello all! My apologies for posting elsewhere on the board before introducing myself here. I was caught up in the zeal of sharing a pic and did not consider how rude it would be bursting in on the conversation with no introduction. It was mycatfox's wonderful junior/zeca video that brought me here originally, and the interesting discussions are what keep me coming back. I think i have seen most of the storylines covered and have enjoyed them all to one degree or another, but I am truly (obsessively) passionate about the current Brendan/Ste story on Hollyoaks, though I understand completely why it might not be to everyone's taste. I look forward to reading all the ideas, predictions and opinions on the unfolding story for I always learn something new, or garner another insight and that's what makes this place so addictive...err enjoyable.
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Post by sistertwist on Oct 27, 2010 19:00:59 GMT -5
I have been seduced by the 'stahe.. or tash as the case may be hated it...dealt with it...denied it...fell for it
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Post by sistertwist on Oct 20, 2010 14:46:17 GMT -5
Here's a Pic off of Kieron's twitter feed. I am glad the lads are having fun despite the dark tone of thier Storyline. Attachments:
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