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Post by sistertwist on Jul 30, 2011 19:32:18 GMT -5
As usual i agree with almost everything you posted save the above, and I only disagree partially since I too feel Brendan was telling the truth but I think he was doing it to manipulate Stephen and the situation into his favor. To me it seemed like he was backed into a corner and had to use his very last trick which in this case was the truth. I think Brendan gave Ste some sage advice in those few moments of afterglow they got before Eileen barged in. He told Ste he has to "learn -how- to trust him" which i think is significantly different than simply "learning -to- trust him". Okay, so you think that Brendan just couldn't help himself to, yet again manipulate Ste to his advantage, because the situation "backed him into a corner"? Yet in your next paragraph, Ste's supposed to take advice from the very man who'll use manipulation, because he's "backed into a corner"? All of the above, continues (IMO) to excuse Brendan's behaviour and that it's up to Ste, to figure out how HE can "learn how to trust him". A man, who CAN'T seem to NOT manipulate the man he professes to love. It's excuse on top of excuse. No Diva, i didn't say he couldn't help himself. You project far too much of what you -think- i am saying rather than simply reading what i have written. Brendan backed himself into a corner with his lies and then had to resort to the truth to get what he wanted. No excuses, only my observation. And yes, if Stephen wants to be with Brendan as he is at the moment(and not get gutted over and over)he really does need to know HOW to trust him. Trust that the double B will do what is in his best interest. Trust that he will continue to spin circumstance in his favor. Trust that he sees you as a possession and not yet a person. ect.. ect.. I understand that you don't want Stephen with Brendan at all, but I on the other hand want whatever it is Stephen wants. He apparently wants to be with Brendan, and if that is the case he needs to protect himself. (see above) Brendan is a dangerous sociopath, but that is who Stephen fell in love with. In my opinion the danger is a big part of the attraction and if Brendan was ever to be truly domesticated I would bet Stephen's obsession would fade, but that is only my take on it. And speaking of manipulation, do you honestly feel that people in love do not manipulate one another? That seems a bit naive for a Diva, especially a difficult one
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 30, 2011 4:36:45 GMT -5
(snip) Like I said I don't think Brendan was manipulating Ste, I think he honestly meant all that he said. (snip) As usual i agree with almost everything you posted save the above, and I only disagree partially since I too feel Brendan was telling the truth but I think he was doing it to manipulate Stephen and the situation into his favor. To me it seemed like he was backed into a corner and had to use his very last trick which in this case was the truth. I think Brendan gave Ste some sage advice in those few moments of afterglow they got before Eileen barged in. He told Ste he has to "learn -how- to trust him" which i think is significantly different than simply "learning -to- trust him".
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 29, 2011 23:50:12 GMT -5
i keep watching this storyline, and i'm not sure why. because i don't want ste with brendan! i don't care how much chemistry they have together...their relationship is just so twisted and f*cked up (and yet, my favorite gay story of all time is probably Beecher/Keller on Oz and there ain't nothin' more f*cked up than that). i really hoped that ste could have been strong enough to stay away from him, after everything thats happened. i dunno if i'm in the minority, but i keep hoping ste will walk away from him for good. I think on this board you will find yourself in the majority. Sadly (to me at least) there is not a lot of (vocal) Brendan love over here for one reason or another, but I can't really fault anyone for taking a dislike to the madman. I enjoyed Beecher and Keller as well, but to me Bren and Ste are a walk in the park by comparison.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 29, 2011 20:06:49 GMT -5
So, Noah is gone and I couldn't help cheering when Ste told off both Noah and Brendan for how they treated him. Watching him be strong and stand up for himself was great. Now if the writers can only keep this up and not have Ste become Brendan's moppet again I would be over the moon. amen and another brawl with Warren would be fun to watch. they seemed to really enjoy filming the last one
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 29, 2011 19:02:18 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Brendan thinks he can change, or change enough to keep Stephen happy, I just think it is very cruel of the writers to give the madman his first hurdle literally minutes after he makes his declaration (and seconds after sweaty makeup sex) . I don't recall Brendan ever promising to change before, unlike most abusers who use that line constantly so I am inclined to think he means it, at this moment at least. I am also certain he saved the "I love you" for his last trick. Not to say that he doesn't love Ste, but he waited until all else failed before using it since he has to give up a measure of power to say it. Such a great episode. They are starting out Emmett's anniversary month with a serious roar.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 29, 2011 8:51:29 GMT -5
Emmett posted this about 3 hours ago and I am still trying to figure out what scene it could possibly be.
"I've been waiting a long time to shoot this one scene in Oaks... That day is today.. In the Green Corner weighing in at... Ding Ding!!"
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 29, 2011 8:43:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed it too, but it saddens me a bit to see Stephen hardening up and becoming jaded and I think it bothers Brendan too, especially since he knows he is the cause of it. I just hope it eventually bothers him enough.
It was interesting to watch Stephen being aware of his own power over Brendan, and understanding no matter what the madman says, he wants him.
I really enjoyed Ste breaking into a laugh while Brendan had him by the throat, shrugging off the attempt at intimidation with a sarcastic quip.
I even give a point to Brendan for restraint after Ste took a swipe at him, though he seems a bit at a loss on how to deal with badass Stephen and i think that is delightful.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 28, 2011 8:47:30 GMT -5
The point about Stephen is he really is very young mentally. You cannot make a momentous decision like that in a second. Brendan knows this and this is why he never says stay with me because I love you. It is always about the kids. What I liked however last night was Brendan telling Stephen how weak he was. The trouble with people who manipulate is that they lose all respect for those who fall for it. (snip) This exactly. Until Brendan respects Stephen they don't have a chance in the long run. I still have a little hope after seeing a few of the teasers that the relationship could deepen a bit this go-round, but things are still not right for them to be together. In any case I am happy enough to watch another bout of trying. Using Declan's arrival to keep them apart is actually (in my eyes) clever of the writers since i think it is an area Stephen will be inclined to give Brendan leeway in. I used to think it would be a good thing if Brendan saved Stephen from something (other than threats), but now I am inclined to think Stephen needs to save Brendan's bacon in a big way so the madman can be reminded the lad's worth apart from his pretty face. Back when Ste was following him around and poking his exquisite little nose into his business left and right you could see a growing appreciation along with Brendan's frustration as he worked to stay a step ahead and taunted Ste for his efforts. I miss those days
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 27, 2011 17:28:53 GMT -5
So what I gather from the spoilers. July 27: Ste tells Brendan he's leaving to be with Noah leaving Brendan devastated. July 28: Brendan and Ste catch Noah cheating after Ste refuses to stay with Brendan. July 29: Noah goes alone and I think something might happen between Ste and Brendan. Maybe not them getting together, but an intense moment. I'm guessing this is the day that Ste dumps the drink on Brendan's head. Oh I can't wait for that moment. Aug 1: They are together, Ste makes it clear this can't be a casual fling and Brendan promise Ste the world. But then Eileen shows up with Declan and Brendan hide tails it back into the closet. Aug 2: Brendan is determine that Declan won't know he's gay and Ste is hurt that Brendan has emotionally closed off from him again. He comes up with a plan to keep Brendan close. Aug 3: Brendan tries to decide I guess between keeping Ste or not having Declan find out. And then Brendan comes up with a shocking choice. Which I doubt is coming clean to Declan, it will probably leave Ste with the short end of the stick. I thought I heard Kieron was going on holiday soon, so maybe he won't be around for a while. The speed at which they are covering everything seems far too fast! Can't they draw it out a bit!?
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 20, 2011 9:36:36 GMT -5
I will, I'm going to have faith and hope. And there is nothing wrong with that. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Something that has always given me hope is unlike most abusers Brendan doesn't make Stephen promises about it never happening again and being a changed man and he can trust him. He has told him at specific times he wasn't going to hurt him and he doesn't at those times, and I have often wondered at this very distinct difference in Brendan's behavior since overall the madman has no trouble telling lie upon lie.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 18, 2011 16:23:47 GMT -5
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 17, 2011 23:02:42 GMT -5
would that make it something like 3 years of them being together? love it!
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 17, 2011 22:59:57 GMT -5
waw i'm new but i dont think that noah is Ugly bc not all gay men are very masculine I don't think Noah is ugly either.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 12, 2011 6:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 9, 2011 21:18:13 GMT -5
Just had to add this tweet from Kieron back on the 8th (the last day voting was open for the TV Choice Awards) @emmettscanlan love you I've voted for you a scary amount of times x Their affection for one another gives me the warm fuzzies
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 9, 2011 20:52:41 GMT -5
Kieron's cover for the August edition of Gay Times magazine. Hello sexy is this out now? I am guessing it must be. I got the pic from KieronsFan4Life's twitter feed. He runs Kieron's fansite @ kieronrichardson.tumblr.com/ a true treasure trove of sexy goodness.
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 9, 2011 19:38:27 GMT -5
Kieron's cover for the August edition of Gay Times magazine. Attachments:
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 5, 2011 6:41:32 GMT -5
For the Doug fans here is a link to a digital spy interview with P.J. Brennan (the actor that plays Doug Carter on HO) www.digitalspy.com/soaps/s13/hollyoaks/scoop/a327249/hollyoaks-pj-brennan-on-doug-brendan-bex-and-silas.htmlHere is a snippet on working with Emmett: The online fans all seem to love your scenes with Brendan Brady, don't they?"Yeah! Emmett is fantastic to work with - he definitely deserves the two awards that he received at the Soap Awards, and I'm always happy to work with him. I'm always looking forward to doing scenes with him because he's just the type of actor that I want to work with - he's in the moment, he's challenging, he's free to try things and he's really creative. Also, when I first started at Hollyoaks, he was one of the best people to me. It's my first job out of drama school and he's really, really great. My time here wouldn't have been the same if it wasn't for Emmett, because he's been a great support for me and he's taught me loads."
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Post by sistertwist on Jul 1, 2011 11:14:46 GMT -5
I am with the majority on this one. I don't think they slept together either, but I sure hope Stephen thinks so.
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 28, 2011 17:27:03 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about soap production so would you be kind enough to explain the difference between writers and storyliners? Do the writers delegate to storyliners? Actually I have so many questions i don't even know where to start. If you would indulge me i would be most grateful. I don't know much about soaps either. But I think I can take a guess and hope I don't confuse either of us too much. I think of it kinda like the army, there is a head of the show whose in charge of keeping the ratings up and making sure it's not canceled. He/She does come up with ideas and characters to keep the show fresh and strong, I think Brendan was completely Paul Marquess creation. But they are more focus on the big picture of the show than the day to day. Under the head is I guess like lieutenants who are more involved with the story lines and the characters. They need to plan out the storyline, how long they will last and who they will effect. They need to make sure nothing gets boring and probably do pay attention to the audience reactions. I think they also write as well, but I think there are just writers who just write scripts. They are told what the outline is and it's their job to fill the time. Soaps air five days a week and have no reruns so it takes a lot of creativity to keep everything interesting. I hope I haven't made everything more confusing for you. The problem I have with most soaps (maybe just the US ones) is most of them are plot driven. And for them to reach their planned destination with their plot they can have the characters be almost bipolar and having the story be choppy. I prefer character driven stories that seem to actually pay attention to a character journey and have them doing things that are believable. That was very helpful indeed and it makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 28, 2011 17:22:17 GMT -5
I think given Ste's past it makes sense that he isn't spending his time plotting Brendan's demise. If anyone understands Brendan's relationship to violence, it's Ste. He also knows that people can change if they want to. And let's remember, Ste's not exactly "deep". Mostly he just wants to be happy, be with his kids and snog Noah (for now). Part of his obsession with Brendan before was about all the secrets and lies and sneaking around, that kind of darkness can be seductive but also destructive. I think Ste just decided to move forward and as far as he can see, Brendan really is trying to be a 'better" man. I can understand why Ste doesn't hold a grudge just like I understand why Amy DOES hold a grudge against Brendan. They have a very different POV. I hadn't really considered the sneaking around aspect as adding to the intensity of Stephen's obsession, but I think you are right. In defense of Stephen's depth I think he is used to living on the surface most of the time since introspection tends to be a painful thing for folks that have gone through what he has as well as done what he has. That said i think Stephen is far more streetwise rather than what we would call bright, and very canny.
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 28, 2011 17:07:53 GMT -5
Just saw tonights episode. Brendan made a comment to Dr Matt that he should tell Lyndsey and Cheryl the truth or people would get hurt. Surely this doesn't mean he is gay? Anyway him being a doctor may tie in to Declan's arrival. Plus I think it is this week or next we have the hunky dancer playing a Catholic priest in the hot tub and Carmel trying to resist him! The idea that someone like her wants to be a nun is frankly another ridiculous storyline. The actress says she is not leaving, but frankly I can't see her as anyone else. She must have been in the show for years now and you really shouldn't be in a soap for more than 5 years if you don't want to be typecast. He is certainly acting that way. I think we might have a very jealous Stephen on the way. If so it will make for an interesting change.
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 28, 2011 6:40:12 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this! and yay x 3!
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 27, 2011 4:37:07 GMT -5
from Kieron's twitter about a half an hour ago: "It's hot on set today the weather is hot the lights r hot emmett is hot!!! Ha well ste wunt say no" I am hoping that means some quality Stephen and Brendan screentime.
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Post by sistertwist on Jun 20, 2011 17:10:17 GMT -5
Cheerios, for the most part i feel we share the same take on things, and I truly love the idea of Stephen being Brendan's "gunmoll" go-between. I think overall I am in Stephen's camp because his win is a win for both Brendan and the relationship as well. I also admit I am a sucker for any kind of screentime they have together whether they are fighting, romancing, stalking, or even just chatting since for me the chemistry crackles no matter what they are doing. if it becomes apparent that Stephen no longer loves Brendan i wouldn't want them to be together, (and they shouldn't be together now) but frankly i just don't see that happening.
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