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Post by sistertwist on May 16, 2011 0:07:12 GMT -5
I've criticized this story in the past and present but I do think this type of idea would be interesting, with a different actor playing Noah, and with slower pacing. From the spoilers it looks like Noah falls for Brendan in about 2-3 episodes. That's not very good drama. This should unfold over time. I think Brendan doing this type of thing with someone like Doug and using it to make Ste jealous would be more dramatic. Apparently Pete is going to have a story with the vile Ruby...it sounds like someone regrets cutting the thrilling Rob "Dull but DILF" O'Connor and Amber "she never existed, really, we swear" Sharpe story short. I agree with you i really don't like the idea of Brendan seducing Noah in three days that quick then Noah is having wet dreams of Brendan and then being all over him.Why the rush in things.But anyway i would liked it more if Brendan was seducing Doug or someone new.That would make Ste jealous.That would make this storyline way better and intense I just see Noah as weak character and prop for Brendan and Ste to get together in future Pete i like him but i would really like to see him more with Brendan.I mean he was the one concerned about Brendan when he left so i was expecting them to have scenes when Brendan got back but that didn't happen Such a good point about Pete, Cathy. I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. I guess Pete's concern was just a device to let Stephen know Brendan had gone back to Ireland and to show his reaction. Though I agree with the sentiments about Noah being a weak character, and seducing Doug would make Stephen jealous (and be far more palatable, imo) I think we can look at Noah's seduction as a direct response to Ste's impassioned speech. It's double B's "Oh yeah?" to Stephen's "I'm with Noah now". The part that both astonishes and intrigues me is that Brendan feels his hold on Stephen is strong enough to overcome the intrinsic abuse and betrayal of the act itself. The madman has a serious set of balls. Funny thing is, in the end I expect he is right, and frankly i am glad the seduction is rushed since i don't know how long i can stand watching it unfold, but I admit i have trouble thinking of Brendan with anyone other than Stephen. I must admit the audacity of it all is delightfully over the top.
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Post by sistertwist on Jan 14, 2011 2:46:13 GMT -5
To me "Give us a kiss." was Brendan's way of shaking himself out of the memory of the killing, and self reassurance as to why he did it in the first place. I think we are being shown that despite being quite bad, Brendan can't just shrug off a murder.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 28, 2010 12:35:56 GMT -5
Well the writers got me on this one. I can completely excuse this particular murder. Now Ste on the other hand...
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 22, 2010 8:07:54 GMT -5
I like Brendan's gentleness in this clip with Ste. I think he is treating him differently these days, well at least that day
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 19, 2010 0:54:53 GMT -5
Well, I guess I would counter with the question: where else could they have gone that wouldn't have raised a lot of questions from others that he knows? Questions (and the associated implications & insinuations) that Brendan is still desperate to avoid. At least at the gay bar nobody knows them, and nobody's going to bat an eye at two guys on a date together. It's not like they could go anywhere in the village. But I take your point, and maybe it was just a setup to give Emmett some time off. Considering Brendan's personality, you're right that he was not going to feel at all comfortable there. Last time he was there, he was laser-focused on Ste & Macca, so I don't think he noticed anything else going on around him. Considering the way this storyline started, I'm just astonished that Brendan agreed to go on any kind of date with Ste at all , regardless of the location. Now I'm wondering where, exactly, they're planning to go with this story. Point taken. i hadn't thought about nobody knowing them there. I am just as astonished, maybe even slightly perplexed. As much as i like the general direction this is going I am not so sure i like the speed. It seems like the story has become muddled, as if the writers changed direction midstream. I would really love to see what was shot and edited out. Ah well.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 18, 2010 6:25:16 GMT -5
Okay fellas, help me out here. So you are seeing a violent closeted gay gangster and he actually agrees to go out on a date. Do yo take him to a gay bar first thing?? This seems so silly to me. I know Emmett needs time off too, but why make Ste look so thoughtless??
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 16, 2010 7:32:45 GMT -5
Oh why does it have to be a gay bar?! Can't they just ease into things?? Go out for a bite and a movie for heaven's sake not straight to a gay bar. Sheesh. It's like taking an recovering alcoholic out for drinks. The writing is really beginning to confuse me but Emmett and Kieron have me completely hooked.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 16, 2010 7:22:52 GMT -5
I kinda like flummoxed Brendan ;D. I'm not sure what to make of this part: "I know I've made a lot of mistakes. But I wish you'd see some good in me. I can change." Part of me wants to say that the only reason Brendan gave Jacqui the advance was because he knew Ste was listening. And then he said that. He knows that Ste thinks he's a bad guy, and he's probably (correctly?) surmised that Ste would only get back with him if he has, at least, appeared to have changed. In other words, Brendan was trying to manipulate the circumstances to his benefit, just as he always has. He's trying to get Ste to believe that he's not all bad. But Ste's not willing to play the game only on Brendan's terms anymore, and Brendan's frustrated ;D. I agree with you here completely. The only reason he did give Jacqui the advance is because Ste was watching, and though it is still manipulation (I don't think Bren will ever change on that front) I still think it is huge progress. To think we are at a place where Brendan is trying to seem like a better person for Ste's sake. Wow what a long strange trip this becoming. I LOVE flummoxed Brendan too! I don't think it is something the madman is used to in the slightest. And Ste! I love how strong he is becoming, i just wish he wouldn't drop Rae's name like a threat every time things don't go as he would like. I've said it before, but it seems like the writers are at least consistent with the idea that Bren is amazing in bed. Despite everything Ste always comes back around for more.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 15, 2010 21:02:03 GMT -5
I agree that domestic violence should be taken seriously, but in the end this is a soap after all, and i think they have done a pretty good job of covering the important bases. (It's never okay. It's not your fault. You should never put up with it. ect. ect yay Amy) I also agree the writers are trying to titillate us with the story. it keeps the ratings up, and personally i don't mind, but i can understand worries about sending the wrong message. I think overall though Ste's reactions have been spot on rather than simply salacious. If you go back and watch from the start of the relationship you can see real change and growth in Brendan's character brought about by Ste. I'm not saying Brendan will ever be an angel, (he wouldn't be Brendan then after all) but i do think the foundation has been laid for a change for the better. I don't agree, I think he's a jerk and always will be. Even if he changes, he and Ste should never get back together. Like I said before, Amy and Ste never got back together after the abuse, and they have a great relationship now. I think Ste can stand his ground with Brendan as long as they are not in a relationship. I think disagreeing with me is more than valid. It really is matter of perspective. Brendan -is- a jerk, but he has other qualities that (for me) balance that out and i can enjoy him. I hope we can both agree Emmett and Kieron are doing a fantastic job with the material they have been given. I thinks it's the chemistry between the two of them that has me so enthralled with this storyline
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 15, 2010 5:28:12 GMT -5
I understand your current feelings towards Brendan, and I agree completely about all the progress Ste has made, but do you remember how your felt about Ste back when he was abusing Amy? Is it similar to how you are feeling about Brendan now? For me the main difference between that story and this one is that that story presented Ste as a very damaged person who destroyed Amy's love for him because he was insecure and cruel. There was no ambiguity. This story seems to be very ambiguous and I get the feeling the show wants viewers to be thrilled or turned on by all of it, including the physical and mental violence. It all comes across as very superficial to me and more about trying to get attention than actually dealing with a serious issue. The show sees Brendan as a larger than life, campy figure, and I can understand why, and I can understand why he's popular, but I don't understand why something as serious as domestic violence was put into this when they don't really want to do it justice. I agree that domestic violence should be taken seriously, but in the end this is a soap after all, and i think they have done a pretty good job of covering the important bases. (It's never okay. It's not your fault. You should never put up with it. ect. ect yay Amy) I also agree the writers are trying to titillate us with the story. it keeps the ratings up, and personally i don't mind, but i can understand worries about sending the wrong message. I think overall though Ste's reactions have been spot on rather than simply salacious. If you go back and watch from the start of the relationship you can see real change and growth in Brendan's character brought about by Ste. I'm not saying Brendan will ever be an angel, (he wouldn't be Brendan then after all) but i do think the foundation has been laid for a change for the better.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 14, 2010 21:23:54 GMT -5
Ste is a very broken young man who was JUST a couple years into getting his life together after nearly losing everything including his kids. He was beaten and abused by his family and he beat and abused Amy and now here he is in another abusive situation. Brendan obviously know Ste is damaged and is using it to his advantage. There is nothing romantic or loving about this and it's a relationship of emotional and physical cruelty. Ste doesn't just leave Brendan because he can't, emotionally he can't and physically Brendan won't let him. Ste's desire to be wanted and loved is all mucked up with his abuse past. This is WHY he needs friends to help him to throw some cold, clear reality all over this smoldering fire of a mess that his Brendan. Ste's low self-esteem and loneliness (and feeling of guilt and remorse for his own past deeds) make him the perfect candidate for a rat bastard like Brendan. I really adore Ste because he's worked so hard to become a better man (shout out to the late Father Kieron for his help in that regard). He was so young and so broken before and yet he made it through and became a great father and provider and now Brenden is undermining all that Ste has worked so hard to achieve. Every time I see him, I just want to smack that stache right off his face and grind my heel into his neck and tell him to pick on someone his own size. Amazing how violence begets violence (in my mind at least) I can't stand Warren but I really hope he takes a chunk out of Brendan and I really how Ste doesn't fare the worse because of his "relationship" with Brendan in the long run. I understand your current feelings towards Brendan, and I agree completely about all the progress Ste has made, but do you remember how your felt about Ste back when he was abusing Amy? Is it similar to how you are feeling about Brendan now?
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 7, 2010 14:44:06 GMT -5
Bad girls are best! and I think i like your idea better
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 7, 2010 11:39:58 GMT -5
"Steven, would you rather I ply -you- with booze?";I about fainted with glee. I don't speak English very well.. Do I have to read anything else in that line? An ambiguous sense/meaning ? ;D I know the meaning of "to ply" (ensure that (another) is abundantly served)...and that's what Brendan is doing with Rae... but I have something different in mind for Ste... If you speak English anywhere near as well as you write it I would say you are fluent. I think the double entendre in what Brendan is saying harkens back to their first kiss, when the madman got Ste very drunk on good Irish whiskey and then manipulated the lad into making the first move. At least that is what I got out of it. And Zathrus I do agree with you, but I think it's far more than creepy. It's such a disturbing glimpse into Brendan's emotional makeup. Everything is such a power/control issue with him. I really wish Ste hadn't caved in just then because Brendan clearly won that round. I must say Brendan has a hell of a way to mark his territory.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 5, 2010 20:16:09 GMT -5
When i we find out S & B sleep together in Rae's bed? In Rae's bed?! Cheeky bastard! and so completely Brendan. Ste should know better! I really hope that seduction scene is off the charts so i can cut the lad a little slack on that one.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 5, 2010 20:10:43 GMT -5
weeow what a pic. He has the best smile. Among other things. Thank you for sharing the sweet and sexy!
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 4, 2010 23:40:43 GMT -5
The spoilers contradict each other: does Brendan get mad because Ste wants to see both him and Rae or does Brendan get mad because Ste doesn't want to see them both? Hmmm...... My bet is that after Brendan and Ste have sex, Ste wants to have a 'proper' relationship, but Brendan wants to continue the DL. Ste refuses and that's why Brendan gets mad. It wouldn't make sense for Ste to want to see both of them. He never wanted to be with Rae to begin with. He's always wanted to be with Brendan. What's odd is that Brendan is attacking him in the light of day....... I agree with you Anthony. Brendan laying hands on Ste in broad daylight out in public is so very odd! He must be very VERY upset. You might be right about the reason too since we know Brendan's biggest flashpoint is being outed. (again) Ste might want to tell Rae and break up properly with her but since I am kind of out of the loop spoiler-wise I am inclined to think perhaps Ste thinks the hook-up with Brendan was a mistake and he wants to backpedal. Also Ste might want to continue to See Rae since he knows she is in love with him and he doesn't want to hurt her. Lots of folks stay far too long in relationships because they don't want anyone to get hurt. (though staying with someone you really don't love is far more hurtful AND a waste of time to both) Such an interesting mix of anticipation and dread i have developing. Seriously though, Brendan's feelings for Ste must be MUCH stronger than his fear of being found out. He knows the boy can't keep his mouth shut fer chrissake!
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 3, 2010 21:42:32 GMT -5
I am giddy from this last episode! Ste is playing tough, but I am seeing cracks in that resolve of his. (why the heck would he even show up if he didn't really want to see Brendan??) I was really developing a dislike of Rae, but the writers are making her so hapless I can't stay annoyed with her. Why in the world would she agree to a double date with BRENDAN?? Has she taken a hit to the head??? So many great lines! "Steven, would you rather I ply -you- with booze?" I about fainted with glee. I am definitely with cheerios and Cathy on Warren using Ste to get to Brendan. It will be so interesting seeing how this all plays out.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 3, 2010 2:38:05 GMT -5
It was kind of fun to watch Warren and Brendan match wits ;D. I can't wait to see them try to out top each other. They are both very dangerous men who will let nothing get in there way. I can see if Warren finds out that Ste means something to Brendan, doesn't have to know about the affair. Using Ste to hurt Brendan because a part of Brendan would be hurt if something bad happen to Ste. I was thinking this very thing!!
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 26, 2010 7:00:12 GMT -5
I see in the spoilers that Scott Neal's character will be brought in by Cheryl to redecorate Chez Chez. That will put him in Ste and Brendan's vicinity! (assuming Ste is still working there) It will be interesting to see what Brendan makes of Trev's campy French poof persona.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 26, 2010 4:54:57 GMT -5
A part of me really does feel bad for Brendan. From his point of view i'm sure he thinks he has been an absolute prince to Ste. He was there for him during the fall out from the fire, and even comforted him in public for heaven's sake and asked him to stay at his house in front of Rae no less! He put up with all the accusations, pushes and shoves with barely a snarl in return and continued to give Ste every opportunity to see what he thinks of as reason despite the lad calling his personal code into question over and over again. it's true when the police got thrown in the mix he steps things up a bit, but I think that threat of planting drugs on Ste was weak. (especially since involves the welfare of the children) I didn't believe him...then. I think Brendan feels he has been the picture of patience and restraint (all things considered) and here comes Ste saying he "can't do this any more". The nerve! I think that is why he gives such a scoff when Ste says it's not so simple for him. I find myself thinking back to that exasperated "What would you have me do, Stephen?!" he gave in the hospital. I think it was very genuine and not something brendan is at all accustomed to feeling.
Now if Ste is really serious about ending things with brendan he knows he will need to find another job, so i am curious how he will handle that situation. If he doesn't start on that straight away I think it will be very telling. Brendan is not a sit around and sulk sorta fella. He will be looking for some leverage, and Ste's job seems the closest thing to hand (drugs too maybe?) so i am curious if he is going to play that card straight out. I am slightly worried he might go very dark very fast and discard the notion of Ste caring for him and focus simply on regaining control over him. That would be disappointing, but understandable considering what we already know about brendan.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 23, 2010 22:34:04 GMT -5
Oh, Dom, you're way out of your league so true! I enjoyed the calm predatory Brendan prowling around after Ste. That back and forth with Dom was priceless! "You're a bad person, right? You do bad things." Sigh and a nod "Yeah." He picks the most amusing times to be honest.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 23, 2010 11:42:53 GMT -5
I agree Cathy, Ste did want Brendan to kiss him, and the moment Brendan saw that little flicker of weakness he went back to the business of getting rid of Amy's voicemail. Such a manipulator!! And such a pleasure to watch.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 21, 2010 20:40:35 GMT -5
Thanks Jazz! I missed the shove. Gave me a great excuse to go back and watch again, and that fella went flying!
After reading all the posts it just sunk in that Brendan went into a gay bar to spy on Ste. Brendan...in a gay bar! I think we can put another check on the list of "Things Brendan normally doesn't do"
cheerios, i think you are soooo right about Macca. I hadn't thought about how seeing Brendan with Ste (and how different it was) would effect Macca, but now I see the whole "gay man scorned thing" as more than a bit ominous.
I agree with you jjose about Brendan pursuing Ste helping him to change, but I sure hope you aren't right about it not happening, but I am beginning to see how I might be in a state of denial about that. So many good points have been made that seem to lean towards Ste being the one to reconcile. Hopefully cheerios will be right and Amy will make Ste promise to stay away. That seems a good and valid way to keep the power in Ste's court for a bit longer, but if Brendan gets the lad alone..i mean really alone, I am not sure how well Ste will be able to resist him.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 20, 2010 23:21:03 GMT -5
I don't think Brendan and Ste should get together at all. That relationship is not healthy. Having a common ground, becoming friends if Brendan lays off the abuse and become a change man is okay but not a couple. I mean Ste and Amy never really got back together after the abuse. I love the relationship they have now, considering what it was like 2 years ago. I completely understand your point of view, and I can't fault you in the least for it. I will only put forth that even the best of relationships have unhealthy parts, some not as obvious as physical abuse, but perhaps just as painful, and it is for those involved to decide what works for them. I am not excusing or condoning the abuse, but to me it is up to Ste to decide when enough is enough even if i don't agree. On a sidenote I do think these two have a lot of common ground. I actually think Brendan sees a bit of himself in Ste. After all the first night they met Ste tried to blackmail Brendan into giving him a job and got a punch in the nose for his trouble. Ste has known from the very beginning Brendan is mad, bad and dangerous to know, and I am pretty sure that is part of the attraction. He knew Brendan was violent, dealt large scale drugs, and was willing to endanger the innocent (as long as it wasn't his family) to get what he wants, but Ste was more than happy to overlook all of that once he figured Brendan was doing bad for the sake of his kids, something he admitted he himself would do. Now I do admit I am completely biased so please feel free to take anything i say as the rantings of a delusional fangirl.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 20, 2010 20:39:12 GMT -5
I have to agree with Anthony about Brendan's change taking a good long while, but I am with cheerios in thinking if Ste gets drawn back in he won't stand for any more abuse, though i hope he would simply walk away rather than fall into mutually abusive situation. I will be disappointed in the writers with Zathras if they let Ste fall back into being a victim, it would be such a step backward for the character after so many personal realizations. The spoiler for the next episode has me slightly worried, but at least they will be on screen together. I'll take whatever I can get. It's going to be a loooong weekend.
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