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Merlí
Dec 16, 2017 13:13:13 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 16, 2017 13:13:13 GMT -5
I'm really curious if they'll actually go there, finally, with Pol & Bruno. But I'm keeping my guard up. I've been let down too many times by various shows over the years. Yeah, I'm still in therapy over Valentin and Ringo. I hope someday to be able to lead a normal, functional life again. I wish I had more confidence Pol and Bruno will end up in some kind of relationship. The show does seem to have put all the elements in place that could make that happen, but a lot could still go wrong. It might actually be more likely that nobody ends up with anyone and the shows ends with everyone just being great friends. Pol doesn't seem ready or even capable of a committed relationship with anyone, so even if Pol and Bruno do end up "together", what does that really mean? How long could it possibly be before Pol is having sex with someone else? I don't think the show can realistically leave us fans with the impression that Pol and Bruno are going to live happily ever after as a couple. But it would be nice if they at least left us with evidence Pol is going to be honest and open about his interest in Bruno and might be willing to give a real relationship with him a try at some point. I'm annoyed that even though Pol likes Tania and Bruno equally (per his conversation with Efre), he continues to make Tania think it's all about her and to portray outwardly to the world that he's a straight guy solely into women. If Pol had his way, things would continue with Tania getting all the open public affection while everything with Bruno remains concealed. I think that for the show to have a satisfying ending, Pol needs to at least start being honest with people about who he is. Nobody in the gang (except for Bruno and Tania) knows the real Pol. Pol is not proud of who he is and I think it would be very unsatisfying if the show ended with him still hiding his true sexuality. That would go against everything the show has been about. Here is how I hope the remaining episodes play out: Pol may have been sneaking out of the sleeping chamber to be with Tania (thinking Bruno is asleep), but Bruno intercepts him and they end up sneaking off somewhere to make out. They get discovered and Pol gets outed. This makes Tania dump Pol. (She may have been ready to do this already after an emotional talk with Marc.) Pol behaves badly at the exposure and blames it all on Bruno, saying Bruno basically sexually assaulted him and he was trying to push him off. Bruno is humiliated and devastated and the next to last episode ends with things having completely blown up for Pol - he's lost both Tania and Bruno, and maybe even everyone else. The final episode will be (I hope) Bruno and Tania healing their friendship and then Pol coming clean with the gang about who he is. My big hope is that he does this by kissing Bruno in front of everyone. We'll be left to forever speculate on what becomes of Bruno and Pol after that. (I think it's possible that it will be Merli and Tania herself who counsel Pol to embrace who he is and go to Bruno. There might also be a scene where Pol's brother accepts him.)
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 14, 2017 17:57:09 GMT -5
Sad news: Gavin MacIntosh (who formerly played Connor) revealed that he has given up acting. Sounds like he became really disillusioned with the industry. I always liked him and vastly preferred him to Jude, so was hoping I'd see him in something else once he got booted off The Fosters. IMO, all 3 of Jude's love interests have been more likable than him. Are you sure about that? He says on IG that he did quit earlier in the year, but now is back at it.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 13, 2017 9:51:48 GMT -5
I think Marc is Tania's exit ramp out of the triangle. He's been positioned to ensure Tania's story has a happy ending despite losing out with Pol. It can't be long before she realizes Pol is still hot for Bruno. On her way out the door, maybe she outs Pol as revenge. That would be a welcome development, IMO, because I don't want the show to end with Pol's gay side still closeted. The final episode, I hope, will include a scene where Pol kisses Bruno openly in front of everyone.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 12, 2017 18:20:30 GMT -5
Very interesting episode. Pol likes both chocolate and strawberry ice cream equally. And Efre's advice is to just have them both. Doesn't seem like it can really work out, though, and I'm not going to be happy if Bruno settles for a secret affair with Pol while Tania is his official lover. So many things wrong with it, not the least of which is Tania is supposed to be his close friend. Pol is going to have to choose and I'm not sure he can. Perhaps Tania will choose for him since she has Marc as a fallback option. Really, the moment she finds out the Bruno-Pol thing is still a thing, that will likely be the end of it for her. Unless the season is going to end with them having a threesome. Hmm... I wouldn't rule that out, actually...
But more likely, Tania goes to Marc and Pol and Bruno end up together by default. I'm hoping for a scene of Pol coming out to the gang - or to someone - about his love for Bruno. It's time for Pol to come clean about his love of strawberry ice cream.
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Merlí
Dec 12, 2017 15:52:34 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 12, 2017 15:52:34 GMT -5
Wow! That cherry scene! So hot!
The scene between Marc and Tania might be equally encouraging. Just the fact that they're filming one-on-one scenes with them this late in the game... Marc is a better fit for Tania since he's not trying to crawl into her best friend's bed in the middle of the night.
Some cause for hope.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2017 22:07:09 GMT -5
I don't know how old any of you are, but this story line is a repeat of when Steven Johnson came back from the dead after 16 years. Steve had been dead (dying in the hospital in front of Kayla, she was laying on his chest and heard his heart stop beating) and was found living his life in another town by Jack, he had no memory. Jack (who was dying again) brought him back to Salem and he had all these demands put on him emotionally by Kayla so much so that Steve ended up for a little while with Billie. And while the story should have focused on him trying to rebuild his relationship with his daughter (whom he remembered first btw), it focused on her trying to force him to remember their love and life together. And the result was him distancing himself because of the pressure he felt and the feeling he had that he might never remember who he really was.And him feeling that the man Kayla wanted was the one she remembered and couldn't reconcile that with the man he was now. It seems to me this story might be headed in that direction. While Billie had known Steve before he "died", she didn't have such a deep involvement with him that she couldn't accept the man he was when he came back. If they do end up putting Paul and Will together (no matter how briefly that may be, even if for just a hook up) I think part of it will be because with Paul there is a past but not necessarily history. Paul has no expectations of Will because he didn't know Will all that well before Will "died". Very interesting!
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2017 22:01:24 GMT -5
I think considering what has just happened between Pol and Tania, Bruno coming back at this very moment is telling. I say that because no matter what else has been going on in Pol's life, he has always been drawn to Bruno. It's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays itself out. Especially if Bruno is single and is determined to see where things could go with Pol. I can imagine a scene where Bruno asks Tania for info about what's going on with Pol and whether there is hope for his love of Pol. Tania probably won't be able to tell him the truth. Somehow Efre is going to play a role in the final stage of the story. Otherwise, why introduce him so late in the season? Oh, darn! I just thought of something... What if Efre is for Bruno? That way Bruno isn't left empty-handed when Pol gets with Tania. I think that would be very unsatisfying for the fans, but it is a possibility, I suppose.
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Merlí
Dec 6, 2017 21:08:57 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2017 21:08:57 GMT -5
Merli hasn't been cancelled. It was always planned for three seasons.
I've been thinking about it and it just doesn't work if Pol and Tania end up together. Then Bruno ends up a big loser in love and so does Marc. Whereas if Tania gets with Marc and Pol with Bruno, all four characters get a satisfying ending. I guess they could say Bruno has his Italian boyfriend, but seeing how we've never seen this guy, that's very unsatisfying. I think the return of Bruno is going to cause a lot of drama.
I loved the way the Pol-Merli story wrapped up. The way Merli pushed Pol to use his brain by throwing books at him was great. And then seeing Pol raise his game and use his ability was good to see.
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Merlí
Dec 6, 2017 14:59:29 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2017 14:59:29 GMT -5
Hmm... doesn't look good for Pol-Bruno... although there are still three episodes left...
I suspect both Pol and Tania will initially try to conceal their relationship from Bruno. The final part of the story might be how they manage to be a couple with Bruno's blessing. That will be anti-climatic and disappointing.
But perhaps this is where the Marc and Efre dimension comes into play. Tania loves Marc enough to have slept with him very recently and Pol quite likes sex with men. So because Bruno is in love with Pol, Pol and Tania could decide to make other choices that works out better for everyone and doesn't hurt Bruno. Tania could decide she can be happy enough with Marc. I think it's interesting that the writers have created this option for her. And Pol could realize that the only way to keep Bruno in his life is to be with him. Tania may also not want to hurt Bruno - not want to be the one who stole Bruno's great love. So they both make a sacrifice out of love for Bruno. Merli and Pol's brief discussion about how important Pol and Bruno are to each other could perhaps be setting up such a sacrifice. Bruno being Merli's son gives him a special status since Merli has done so much for Pol. Merli didn't ask for Pol to be with Bruno, but he did seem to be asking for Pol not to hurt him. They appear to have made a deep pact on that point. So both Pol and Tania decide to settle for their second choice, which is not such a big sacrifice really since Tania truly does love Marc and Pol truly does love Bruno (and likes sex with men).
Pol's newfound maturity and clarity of sight could be what leads him to to choose what works best for all three of them.
That's my best scenario for how Pol-Bruno could still happen...
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Merlí
Dec 6, 2017 10:53:47 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2017 10:53:47 GMT -5
Tania has loved Marc from the start of the series. It's only a bad decision by her if Marc does not share her feelings. He seems to me to be a lot less risky choice for her than Pol, who is likely to cheat on her with men. But how does she come to be sleeping with Marc when she seemed so into Pol in that last episode? Something must happen that puts her off Pol. Perhaps she walks in on him and Efre. It's kinda biphobic thinking pol would cheat on her just because he was involved with men in the past. Marc never seemed to reciprocate her feelings in the little that I saw of them, that is why I think it's a bad decision. Well, Pol is involved with men in the present and probably future since he has only begun to explore that part of himself and isn't yet being honest about it. I haven't seen the full episodes, so I'm not sure, but I can't imagine Tania sleeping with Marc if she didn't feel he shared her feelings. I'm not sure how she then gets with Pol. Maybe someone who has seen the episodes can explain.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 5, 2017 12:32:24 GMT -5
Yeah, someone on Reddit said Bruno shows up just as Pol and Tania begin a relationship. I don't quite understand how Tania is sleeping with Pol right after sleeping with Marc. She doesn't seem the type to jump from bed to bed. Also, why did the writers have her and Marc hookup just before this Pol-Tania thing? And why did they insert Pol-Efre as a prelude as well? Perhaps all of this makes it easier for Pol to ditch Tania for Bruno. Perhaps the show is playing musical chairs with who ends up with whom at the end. (And perhaps nobody ends up with anyone - everything is left open to possibility at the end.) In any case, Bruno looks SUPER HOT!! Pol is going to be tempted at least, I think. It would be interesting if the first time we (and maybe Pol) see Bruno again, he's naked. Definitely setting him up as an object of sexual allure.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 5, 2017 11:28:05 GMT -5
First image of Bruno back on Merli. Not sure what episode this happens in. Maybe the most recent one. Seems like he's coming back in time to be part of a story arc. We'll see...
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 1, 2017 9:24:12 GMT -5
Yes, but I think Sami was right. Will was starting to remember.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 30, 2017 13:50:59 GMT -5
Newly posted on David Solans' Instagram, David in the dressing room of Elisabet Casanovas (Tania).
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 30, 2017 13:26:00 GMT -5
Spoilers for November 11 Sami heads out of Salem Will's return prompts Lucas to put down the bottle There is also a spoiler talking about a triangle taking an unexpected turn. It could of course refer to Will/Sonny/Paul, especially as Will kisses Paul the previous week. However, it is also known that Greg Rikaart is coming on board and is rumoured to be involved in the gay SL. I'm taking a wild guess that Will hasn't been celibate for the last two years and that he might have been involved with Greg Rikaart's character. Poor Sami, leaving without a true reunion with her son. Will having an existing love interest could possibly be interesting, but I'm not sure it would make sense since Will wouldn't have returned to Salem so easily if he had a boyfriend. Rikaart could play a character who is chasing after Will and so follows him to Salem. Or perhaps he has no connection to Will at all. It's also possible that instead of having no sex in Memphis, Will was a slut.
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Merlí
Nov 29, 2017 3:14:23 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Nov 29, 2017 3:14:23 GMT -5
Must not have been a deep love Pol had for Tania since he traded it away like a baseball card. And now it's clear why Tania and Marc hooked up. They're embracing their authentic life. Is Pol ready to embrace his? Bruno's return feels imminent to me.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 27, 2017 22:58:44 GMT -5
Unless Freddie is planning to leave the show, I guess we have to assume Sonny and Will are end game. But there's a big difference, I think, between Will remembering he loves Sonny and Will falling in love with Sonny all over again from scratch. That last scenario could be very enjoyable to watch.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 27, 2017 22:11:26 GMT -5
I'm wondering when Kevin is going to get a love interest this season. One possibility is things heat up with Moose again. Perhaps Moose needs some rehab and Kevin helps him get through it. There is also Betty's brother, who is supposed to arrive in Riverdale soon. Perhaps he takes an interest in Kevin.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 27, 2017 21:05:54 GMT -5
I never saw any erotic subtext between EJ and Will, although some people claim it is there.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 25, 2017 20:07:37 GMT -5
I want Sonny sees Will and Paul' kiss ...what he will do ...and how Paul will react? can't wait Will falls for Paul while he has amnesia could be an interesting plot....Will wants Paul...Paul wants Sonny...and Sonny want them both...what a mess...lol That is an interesting twist. I wonder if Paul manipulates things to bring about that kiss.
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Merlí
Nov 25, 2017 15:17:24 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Nov 25, 2017 15:17:24 GMT -5
But when Tania came to see Pol at the grocery store, it seemed she was back to being interested in him. Something destroys that renewed interest, it seems. Perhaps Tania learns Marc does have feelings for her and chooses him over Pol. Or perhaps she does see Pol with Effre. Either one of those would be a big crisis for Pol. I read a rumor that Bruno returns earlier than expected. Perhaps it will be Bruno's return that short-circuits Pol's "love" for Tania.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 25, 2017 0:28:11 GMT -5
The explanation does connect all the dots of how Will is still alive despite everyone seeing him dead, but it is still preposterous. Marlena's talk with Will, though, won me over to accepting the story. Those were nice scenes. I guess it's good that Will remembers he is gay, although it might actually have been interesting if they'd made it so he had to rediscover his sexuality as well. Wouldn't have been any more preposterous than the rest of the story.
Sami is pushing too hard, as usual, and mainly annoying Will, but I bet she will be the one who eventually gets Will to start remembering things. Yet maybe Will never actually remembers anything and just starts pretending that he does. That would be an interesting (but sad) twist.
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Merlí
Nov 23, 2017 14:13:14 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Nov 23, 2017 14:13:14 GMT -5
Tania has loved Marc from the start of the series. It's only a bad decision by her if Marc does not share her feelings. He seems to me to be a lot less risky choice for her than Pol, who is likely to cheat on her with men. But how does she come to be sleeping with Marc when she seemed so into Pol in that last episode? Something must happen that puts her off Pol. Perhaps she walks in on him and Efre.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 22, 2017 22:53:23 GMT -5
Yeah, now I'm not quite so sure what's going to happen. They are sending mixed signals about Pol, perhaps deliberately to keep us guessing. If Pol is in love with Tania, why was his mind on Bruno during the obvious moment on that bed to start things up with her? And why did the writers have him sleep with Efre soon afterwards? Interesting, too, that it never occurred to Pol that he had feelings for Tania until Efre suggested he does - and after Efre had assumed he was gay. I'm not sure where the story is going, but it does seem clear that Pol's pansexuality is going to play a role in its outcome. How would Tania feel about having a boyfriend who likes to sleep with guys? Perhaps she will stumble upon a compromising moment between Pol and Efre. Efre's role in the story intrigues me. The abrupt addition to the story of a new male sexual outlet for Pol suggests Pol's sexuality is going to be a big part of what's coming. I think Efre is being positioned by the writers to be a truth-teller and confidant to Pol in matters regarding his sexuality. Is Pol still going to want sex from Efre despite supposedly being in love with Tania? And will Efre get to view Pol and Bruno interacting later in the season? What will he make of that? I still think that, mainly because it's what so many of the fans want, the show is likely to leave things with at least the possibility that Pol and Bruno will be together. Which means, they at least won't close off the possibility by hooking him up with a woman. Who is having sex in the final scenes of that clip? It looks like Tania and Marc. Bad news for Pol-Tania, I assume.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 19, 2017 22:34:49 GMT -5
I've been re-watching the first season on Netflix. Observing Pol, knowing where he's headed sexually, really makes his ultra-hetero persona look like an act. All the other straight guys just walk around being straight, but Pol has to constantly be reminding everyone how very into women he is. He overdoes it. Would he be driven to do so much overcompensating if his attraction to men was merely in addition to his attraction to women? I'm not so sure. He might be bi, but I think the evidence is starting to suggest he has a bigger secret.
If Pol is going to end up with Bruno, he's going to have to come out to the gang as a guy who enjoys sex with men - a guy who can fall in love with another man. I don't think Bruno will settle for a secret boyfriend. That's going to be a HUGE step for Pol. Probably Merli will have to help him with it. Or maybe Efre will out Pol when Pol inevitably dumps him. Either way, the gang is going to be shocked, especially the guys. Regardless of whether Pol is bi or gay, he's going to have to commit to a man. That's going to appear gay to the gang and to the audience. Perhaps the show will try to suggest Pol is just fluid, but if Pol and Bruno end up together and in love, their story is basically a gay love story.
The 14th episode of the this season is scheduled to be broadcast on Christmas Day. I suspect all the drama will be wrapped up by that point and the 14th episode will be mainly scenes of all our favorite Merli characters celebrating Christmas together.
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