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Post by camjakefan on May 3, 2010 10:39:09 GMT -5
No there is no excuse for cheating. But I don't think that's what they were doing when they gave us the insight into Roman during the behind the scenes. I think they were letting us know the reason for the up coming cheat. Roman has in very many ways always been insecure, but he always had skating to fall back on. It was a safe place for him. He even explained to Deniz that after the break up with Marc he threw himself into his training to get over the heartbreak. Now that's gone as well. He's not where he wants to be in his life, or more to the point where he thought he would be in his life. He sees himself as a failure. And then there's Deniz, he's young, good looking, and very sucessful. Roman is getting older, he's basically starting over career wise and he's feeling out of sorts. And here comes Marc, this blast from the past. This unaswered question. And he brings with him all these old dreams and the possibility of somehow turning back the hands of time and making things right. He brings with him buried feelings and unfinished business. And it's pulling at Roman. Not because the feelings aren't real. Because I think they are, but because the power in them is the question of "what if?" The problem with the question is that it's a selfish one, because it presupposes that everything would have worked out differently and in your favor if only you'd done this or that. What if Roman had been braver and come out when Marc asked him to? What if Marc had given Roman more time to grow into his truth? What if allows you to reimagine your life, see it as it could have been. Which isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but it can be destructive when you allow the question to then seep into what is. And for Roman what is, is Deniz and his new career and his life in Essen. Roman is going to allow his insecurities about himself and the question of Marc to invade his present and in so doing put his future at risk. What I found telling about the behind the scenes, was when the reporter asked Igor what he wished for Roman, he said nothing he has it all. Dennis replied "that's true, but Roman has to see that". Right now Roman actually has everything he ever dreamed of. The problem he's having is that it not in the package he dreamed of would be in. He has a good man who loves him completely. Who isn't asking him to change or be something different. Who wants to be with him no matter where they are, no matter what they're doing. He has a career that if he allows himself to actually think about it, he's very good at. But what if is looming large and clouding his vision of things. What if is whipsering in his ear that he doesn't deseve what he has, that he should see what's on the other side of the fence, just in case. In the end I do believe that Roman will come to realize that his feelings for Marc although real are the past, and should stay there. A lovely memory of a time gone by and can't nor should it be recreated. I believe he will come to realize that his feelings for Deniz are the present in indeed the furture. Even if we take that as a given in this situation. The result of this particular life lesson may come with a high price. Deniz is ready, he's standing there with arms and heart open saying that he loves Roman with his whole being. He's given himself completely to Roman. And if/when he finds out about the cheat. The question he's going to be asking himself is why wasn't what he's offering enough for Roman? It's going to be a bumpy and interesting ride for the boys. I think at the end of it though they will both have grown stronger and wiser and with their love in tact, if a little bruised. But the course of true love never did run smmoth, and wouldn't it be boring as hell if it did. At least that's the view from my particular bridge... I love when other people can say eloquently what I cannot put into words. I totally agree with you.
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Post by camjakefan on May 2, 2010 14:08:40 GMT -5
I think it's forced I mean they just met what maybe a couple a weeks ago and they're already talking about moving in together. Is show trying to make them an OTP. They should by now the audience doesn't take too kindly to Show forcing a character down out throats. Hence the dislike for S#%$^@, whose name shall not be mentioned or spelled out loud for fear she will comeback.
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Post by camjakefan on May 2, 2010 10:55:34 GMT -5
After watching the backstage piece on Roman's birthday and gaining character insight. I'd be worried if I was Marc and Roman chose me. Knowing Roman has all these insecurities and thinking he's in some way not good enough for Deniz. Roman not being able to understand why Deniz loves him and wants to be with him. If I were Marc I'd feel like a consolation prize or last choice. It's like Roman is settling for Marc because he doesn't think he's good enough for Deniz. I didn't say you could see this now. I said that listening to Dennis talk about what is motivating Roman right now this is how I felt in response to the spoilers that Roman will cheat. They didn't say he would choose Marc. I said if he chose Marc. Honestly I don't see this at all so far. I think that Roman is just confused becuase he loves Daniz but he's also starting to realize that he still has feelings for Marc as well.
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Post by camjakefan on May 2, 2010 8:10:46 GMT -5
well not being good enought for someone isn't a good reason for cheating. Not in my book it isn't. But cheating isn't a thing i like over all. I'm with you on the cheating but I've accepted the storyline now so I'm going with it. I am loving all this drama and Dennis and Igor are rocking these scenes.
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Post by camjakefan on May 1, 2010 17:21:22 GMT -5
After watching the backstage piece on Roman's birthday and gaining character insight. I'd be worried if I was Marc and Roman chose me. Knowing Roman has all these insecurities and thinking he's in some way not good enough for Deniz. Roman not being able to understand why Deniz loves him and wants to be with him. If I were Marc I'd feel like a consolation prize or last choice. It's like Roman is settling for Marc because he doesn't think he's good enough for Deniz. He should feel less than. But since he doesn't know this Roman only the one from ten years ago. he doesn't know how disappointed Roman has become with his life which is the reasoning behind some of the decisons he's making.
Secretly I think having Marc around has also been a boost to Roman's ego having two guys wanting him.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 30, 2010 13:26:35 GMT -5
Okay, can I say today's episode rocked? Loved Marian's expression when he looked at Roman in the end. Loved Ben (and I didn't before). Deniz is really fighting for this relationship, even when he is angry like he was today. But he made his POV very clear and I want to congratulate for that. He is talking, people! I wish Roman would do the same soon! *sigh* Also - very interesting party of three with Marc, Roman and Deniz and how Marc suddenly wasn't important anymore the moment Roman realized that Deniz was truly hurt. Is that a hint to the solution? Comments, anyone! ? It's very fitting to the Roman we know to be upset about the present. His fragile ego feels threatened by the idea of Deniz paying for everything. He needs to get over that as far as I am concerned. It's his insecurity talking, nothing else. Can't wait to watch this develop! I so agree with you about Marian look at Roman it said it all. I love Roman but he has to get over himself. Deniz truly loves him he doesn't think of him like that. Deniz again broke my heart today. Igor is rocking these scenes. Dennis is great but I sometimes forget how amazing Igor can be when they give him really great material and emotional scenes to play. I had to go back and watch it twice today on RTL because Deniz was just great.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 30, 2010 10:23:39 GMT -5
Igor and Dennis are awesome. Igor is like real life Ingo he is so comfortable in who he is. I really like what Dennis said would he wishes for Roman is exactly what I want for Roman.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 29, 2010 9:38:53 GMT -5
I don't want Deniz with anyone but Roman but since they are going with this triangle storyline it will eventually end with Marc and Roman and once Roman realizes what he had with Deniz. I want Roman to work hard to get Deniz back and possibly have competition to get him back.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 29, 2010 9:03:59 GMT -5
I think with Roman cheating Deniz will eventually find out. They should put him with Katja. They can help heal each other's broken hearts. They start out as friends and end up as more. I could also it adding drama with Roman and the skating aspect how would they work together especially if Roman gets jealous once what he realizes what he has with Marc is based on the past and they're not a good match for each other now.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 29, 2010 8:55:52 GMT -5
I kinda hope that deniz will put his foot down when he finds out. I want him to do that. B/c seing how roman acted in dero v1 was horribel and i don't want to see that for deniz. And yeah this is probly a 30 cries. And this come to think of that deniz own there appartment. So i guess it all depends on how hurt and pissed off he is. He may kick out both roman and florian right. I with you I don't want them to take Deniz where they took Roman during DeVa and the Dark Years. That's what I hated about that time, they made Roman his pitiful bitchy queen. I didn't like it.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 29, 2010 8:44:15 GMT -5
That clip was awesome to watch anybody wanna subtitle it. i got most of it but need a little help. I love how comfortable Dennis and Igor are with each other.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 28, 2010 17:26:10 GMT -5
I know the EKP ladies are loving on Marc (and I'm loving on the EKP ladies of course and appreciate all the work they do to make my world just a little bit more sparkly;), BUT seriously, I'm supposed to give this Marc fella a chance...yeah, I'm all for angst, and I know some folks find all consuming, all the time bliss boring (with Dero, it's never boring to me)BUT really, I'm supposed to give this Marc fella a chance....yeah, I realize some folks don't get over their first love, blah, blah, blah BUT come on, I'm supposed to give this Marc fella chance?!?!?! I'm with you after that bullshit confrontation with Deniz I'm supposed to like him. I'd be pissed and scared like Deniz too. He knows this guy is gunning for his man. i'd be marking my territory too.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 28, 2010 16:04:18 GMT -5
I feel for Deniz but now that I've accepted what's about to happen. I don't see Marc and Roman lasting as a couple. Everything about them getting together is being based on what they felt for each other and the dreams they had from ten years ago. But what about the people they have become. Right now Roman and Marc are still feeling that what if stuff. Yeah they are closer in age but that's not gonna be the crux of a great relationship. I think becaus Roman is scared of being thirty he's going back and holding on to the dreams he had when he was younger and is prime for the pickig from Marc. I hate the choice in music the show is making for them. Today when Roman had the old photo in the locker room they played background music I associate with DeRo. I don't like it. Then they had the weightroom scene which is classic DeRo 257.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 28, 2010 13:09:14 GMT -5
Just watched today's show and just realized AWZ has a way of lulling you into a place of comfort then whacking you over the head. I had been noticing a pattern that they show Marc then give us a break for a day or so then he pops back up. I wasn't expecting him today towards the end of the episode and the little confrontation with Deniz.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 26, 2010 15:58:26 GMT -5
i'm already shaken my head and i havn't even seen the dam tihng. I really hope with get some posstive DeRo sprorils. Or some hint on what will happend when deniz finds out. I think we can forget about anything positive for DeRo for a while. But I'm with you one finding out a deniz because every spoiler has been focused on Roman and all his issues and confusion.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 26, 2010 15:56:08 GMT -5
since they are going with this whole cheating torn between two loved storyline. This is what I want to happen too. I want Deniz to walk away. Not to blow up emotionally. Make his decision easy for Roman. I want Deniz to meet someone that will help him heal emotionally. Then for Roman to be jealous when he sees the closeness between Deniz and this person. And for Marc to see how it feels to have the one you love being pulled away from you emotionally. I'd like to have Deniz deal with this situation similar to the way Marian was with Nadja, just realize you're figting a losing battle and let go.Yeah I would like to see Deniz be the bigger man. He's grown up so much and I know it is going to be heart breaking when he finds out. But Deniz isn't some kid anymore, he's mature a lot and I think he will handle his pain differently. Though I admit I would like a moment where he tells Roman off and clears the air. Side question: What happen with Marian and Nadja? I only started watching again a while ago and I have no idea where she went. when Marian and Nadja were together she fell back in love with Richard Steinkamp. Instead of exploding he told her that he knew she was still in love with Richard and that now was her chance to be with the person she's always loved and wanted to be with. He walked away from her.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 26, 2010 15:31:59 GMT -5
In Today's show you can clearly see how threatened Deniz is by Marc. I think he's going back to the previous convo with Roman, why didn't he tell Deniz about Marc he know there is a pull. I think Deniz is gonna fight to keep Roman and he's gonna be lulled into believing everything okay according to the spoilers. I think that's when they are gonna hit Deniz with the truth. It's really painful to watch. Because this time Deniz is well and truly in love with Roman. DeRo 1.0 he loved Roman but not like this. This time Deniz is mature and they are an a more even level in the relationship. I'm waiting to see what they do with Deniz because so far all the spoilers are Roman centric.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 26, 2010 15:04:06 GMT -5
Watchng the episode from today and thinking about the spoiler... I already feel so sorry for Deniz. Me too, it's not fun to be cheated on. I wonder if they will part Roman and Deniz for good. Which I somewhat doubt because they are super popular couple that makes for great daytime television. And because I thought I remember when the writers first put them together that they said in an interview they wanted to make these two end game. Though I might have been imagining that. But I think what might happen is Deniz finds out about the affair and walks away from Roman. Roman loves Deniz and Marc making him confused. He makes a go at it with Marc, to see if it will work. But perhaps he finds that there is a reasons first loves are just that first loves. And Roman realizes his heart belongs to Deniz, but Deniz has pulled away to heal. Maybe Deniz meets someone new, man or woman doesn't matter to me. I think they start out as friends and maybe down the line have feelings for each other. Roman is being eaten alive by jealousy and maybe Deniz enters into a relationship with this person but taking it slow. But the pull of Roman is strong and he still loves him. Maybe they share some close moments or a kiss or two. But Deniz won't cheat on his new partner and pulls away. Maybe all three of them are honest with each other and we go from there. since they are going with this whole cheating torn between two loved storyline. This is what I want to happen too. I want Deniz to walk away. Not to blow up emotionally. Make his decision easy for Roman. I want Deniz to meet someone that will help him heal emotionally. Then for Roman to be jealous when he sees the closeness between Deniz and this person. And for Marc to see how it feels to have the one you love being pulled away from you emotionally. I'd like to have Deniz deal with this situation similar to the way Marian was with Nadja, just realize you're figting a losing battle and let go.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 23, 2010 15:29:43 GMT -5
i have never in my life become so emotionally invested in the fate of a soap "fictional" couple. This storyline has my stomach in knots. These latest spoilers don't help. I'm almost to the point of crying. I'm agitated everytime I see Marc on the screen. I could be okay if I knew Roman chose Deniz and the way AWZ is there's no telling where they're gonna take this. Remember the painful DeVa and Dark Years.
Are they gonna make Deniz pitiful like they did Roman during DeVa. Will he do anything to keep Roman. Will they make Deniz dark? they already took him stupid with Rentboy and Druggie. Just give me some hope. If they put Roman with Marc what will they do with Deniz? That was one of my main problems with the DeVa and the Dark Years they never gave Roman anyone else to be with except that one time he came in with the guy while Axel was there. I mean I hope they don't try to make him straight again?
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 23, 2010 15:17:58 GMT -5
Lars can be really unprofessional. he let Jenny hurt her back, he let Deniz hurt Roman's crotch. He was really horrible during the whole Diana ice show. he's an ass. I'm not talking about working with his skaters. i'm talking about business contacts. You can lose jobs always leave a good impression he might need a job from Marc later
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 23, 2010 14:19:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry. I can't buy he just came for Lars. Remember Constanza told him Lars was out of town. If he had talked to Lars beforehand he would have known that. And if when he got there and he contacted Lars after Deniz gave him the number and Lars told him he was coming to Essen. I think Lars would be professional enough to call Marc back and tell him he accepted the Canadian job.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 21, 2010 0:55:53 GMT -5
They just met in Munich when he and Jenny went what maybe about week ago and by time these shows air maybe they'll have know each other about a month
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 20, 2010 18:48:01 GMT -5
I'd like for Deniz to find out by seeing the two of them together. But I don't want Deniz to blow up or say anything. He should wait for Roman to come home and have his bags packed. When Roman asks where he's going say nowhere but you are. Tell him he knows what going on and wish him every happiness with Marc. I'd like for Deniz to play it cool instead of his knee jerk reactions.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 20, 2010 9:40:07 GMT -5
I'm more interested in the Florian stuff. I can't wait to see Roman interact with his father.
My poor Deniz. At least Annette is our saving grace. Maybe Roman will go away with Marc. Does anyone know if Marc is moving to Essen? Maybe they'll put Deniz with another guy for a while who knows.
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Post by camjakefan on Apr 18, 2010 14:59:11 GMT -5
Thanks I had watched the wedding and the whole Julian lives stuff but I just always wondered if they were always close friends.
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