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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 17:23:34 GMT -5
If I am I to be honest, today's episode was a little bored. Yeah, Annette was a great and I would scold even more at Roman, because he needs to. OMG Roman me seriously sometimes seems like a teenager and not 30-year-old man. You're right, Marc thinks he is better than Deniz. Asshole !!!! yep that's why I can't like him completely, I get his plight and he does love Roman but why does he feel he has to belittle Deniz all the time and what Roman and Deniz have? It's clear that he sees Deniz as this annoying little kid he can push aside easily, because what he has/had with Roman is waaaaay bigger & intense than what little Deniz and Roman have.....right.... He has no idea how their relationship is, how hard they fought for it and everything they've gone through together, but maybe he should listen to Roman when he says he loves Deniz, because it has to mean something. This is what I want Roman to see in Marc. The belittling he does of Deniz and Roman's relationship with him. Because he does this he doesn't have respect for their relationship, Deniz, or Roman. He's in essence saying Roman doesn't know who he loves or what's best for him only he knows that.
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 16:07:28 GMT -5
its lunch time here, so who cares, i'm offically on a break now..... i think we will only see Roman jealous , during his 'win back Deniz campain,' i dont think we shall see that while Marc is there, he will be gone way before deniz could think of hooking up with someone else... but i can see Deniz doing that while roman is wooing him back...fair is only fair, that Mr Wild be made to suffer ....has any one even thought that what Deniz did to Roman in deRo 1 might come into play, i know 2 wrongs dont make a right, and Deniz is adifferent person, now , but maybe just maybe, he can forgive Roman, like Roman had to forgive him....just athought.... also if we dont see the spoilers soon ie , that by the end of July Marc has gone, i will start to think that maybe, Timo,s contract has been extended and they have changed the Sl, coz then we are into 4 month contract not three,......i might just prepare hysterical letter of complaint to MR Chroust..... I'm not saying Deniz actively participating in it. Just someone who comes on to Deniz and Roman sees it and turns green. And let's face it; it would probably be a welcome balm for Deniz to have someone hitting on him after all this s$%^. Deniz is hot and I could see someone coming on to him maybe one of those other male function models he's doing a shoot with. Although I could see Deniz hooking up with someone quickly just for sex. We know Deniz tends to get physical when his emotions run amock. Everytime Bulle came back he had sex with Roman or tried to have sex with Roman. When he had problems with Vanessa he kissed Roman and slept with him a couple of times while he was high. He hooked up with Ricky because of hs feelings for Roman and the cameraman blowjob because he thought Roman didn't love him. I could totally see Deniz screwing around because he's telling himself he's over Roman and can move on.
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 15:31:04 GMT -5
I do not think that story will change. The screenplay is written in advance, and I highly doubt that they just can change it. I think that Deniz and Roman they will be suffer and they will still think of each other. It is possible that we crush the whole of this story, and this story will be ultimately brilliant. I believe, Tom Chroust !!! im sneaking on at work....dont tell my boss.... ;D exactly, altho i do think that if Timo, has done his time, he might be on screen longer than 12 weeks ,thats just his filming time,not much more tho....any way , im being so optimistic, that i'm scaring myself....Tom said there would be a happy ending, and he writes the damn thing, so i,m sticking with him... ps for all those who dont think there is enough time to get Dero being at least being civil to each other before the 1000th ,,,think how quick and how much has happened in the 30 or so eppisodes we seen since Marc arrived, (or rather you,ve all seen...haha)personally, i dont think it will take Roman much time at all to realise that he doesnt want to be with Marc, i mean, dont you think once,the relationship is out and he has lost Deniz, Roman,s eyes will be open to who he has really lost and Marc just wont match up, i reckon, with 2 /3 weeks .less if i had my way, Roman will be on his own, i do think we might have him with Marc for a few episodes wishing he was with Deniz , but pretending he doesnt want to be and we know that Deniz will pretend for ages that Roman means nothing, it is a soap after all... then eventually we will have Roman's, 'lesson in how to win my man back , after i've been a stupid pri*k' scenario...and you know it will work, because when it comes right down to it, they love each other , and are each others,'one true thing' runs off the thread before she gets fired..... I love your posts they crack me up but I think we feel the same way about Marc, Roman and this storyline. I'm trying to stay away but the goodness of Show keeps trying to drag me back in. I'm staying away until the reveal. I hope we get some hope in the next set of spoilers. Maybe Roman starts to see the cracks in Marc. Like how he's an asshole, who thinks he's better than Deniz. Can I at least get some guy flirting with Deniz and Roman sees it and gets jealous. And Maybe have Marc see Roman get jealous so he gets a clue of his place in Roman's life.
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 13:05:20 GMT -5
Okay, can I say "I told you so!"? Because didn't we talk about Spoilers and how correct they are? See - the spoilers said that Roman would have sex with Marc in yesterday's or today's episode ... and nothing happend. I mean, yes, they kissed. But this is SO different from the spoilers. Roman doesn't want to lose Deniz. And he wants to understand this thing with Marc. But they didn't take the final step. What I didn't like was the way Marc dismissed Deniz - again. When Roman said: "I don't want to lose Deniz" and he says "Deniz - as if to say, Deniz, who?" And he is so sure Roman will choose him. Hm. Wonder if that could be the nail in his coffin in the end. Oh - this is so much fun! You can say I told you so. I love it when you or derolover watch before all of us so i feel safe enough watching an episode.
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 11:43:03 GMT -5
After reading the new spoilers, I'm sorry, but if THEY stay togetherm I definitely will stop watching the show again. I did it before during the DeVa-era and started watching it again because of DeRo. I will definitely not watch RoMa. I just want to puke. I still have hopes for episode 1000 and that it will deal with the reunion. They better be doing that. I'm with you I will definitely stop. I had already decided to just watch the reveal to Deniz and the aftermath. But if I have to watch Roman with Marc no way. i hope it's like ladyarmand said that Deniz jumped to conclusions or he thinks Roman and Marc are together. I love angst and a good story but I just can't deal with this. I hope what tinkerbell said is true that Timo's 12 week contract and time is up and he won't be there long. I hope he finds another good job. But so long to him and to Marc.
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 7:26:50 GMT -5
I don't get ths Roman has been having sex with Marc how does this start a new relationship? I thought they would at least let Roman be guilty enough not to do anything with Marc for a little while but to have him jump from his relationship with Deniz into one with Marc that is too much. Why does Deniz have to be the first to find out. First he finds out about the affair, Marc punches him it looks like. Then I'm guessing he's the first person to see them together as a couple. Can Deniz catch a break or are they gonna turn him into the next Jenny. I can't deal with that especially after Deniz has totally redeemed himself and been a great partner.
The gesture Deniz makes is probably selling the apartment I can't think of anything else.
They need to have Roman figure out what the hell he wants. He runs to Deniz then when he can't have him he falls back on Marc. He's so devastated from losing Deniz he just has to sleep with Marc . I feel sick. If they are gonna do this at least give Deniz someone to relieve some stress with, have fun with, something
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Post by camjakefan on May 26, 2010 7:18:38 GMT -5
Well it looks like my fears have come true. Roman will start something with Marc.
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Post by camjakefan on May 25, 2010 15:32:57 GMT -5
I'm so angry with Roman I could scream. He should have sat own and told Deniz everything especially after having dinner with Marc. yeah I understand Marc is boosting his ego. But now\ one has been there and encouraged and believed in Roman like Deniz. During the gay games, he encouraged Roman, he trained and worked hard even though he had no desire to skate competitively all because he knew it was something Roman wanted. When he wanted to be a trainer, when he wanted to freelance, when he lost his job. Deniz always tells Roman he's the best and supports him in everything he couldn't ask for a bigger fan. I tend to agree with ladyarmand he is self-destructing. Deniz even encouraged and supported Roman when they were apart when Roman was nervous about the German Championship.
When Roman told Annette what he thought his life would be like at thirty that dream was for someone straight, because he was talking about a woman. Now he could even have the marriage but I don't think they were quite ready for tht. But Roman has everything he could want a great, loving and supportive partner, a great job his skater just won a medal. He and Deniz have a committed relationship and a great group of friends what more does he want?
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Post by camjakefan on May 25, 2010 12:20:35 GMT -5
yeah as mush as i dislike marc. He didn't force roman to sleep with him. He didn't it all by him littel self. I kinda hope roman lose it all. I kwnon mean of me. But you really can't have the cake and eat it to. The world doesn't work like that. I think i would feel better a bout this sl if i knewn it will end with Dero being sorta okay B/c if they ever gonna be okay i think it will take lots and lots of time. Surely deniz forgives that ppl he loves easy. But serisly he was really comited to roman. And what do roman do, he cheats on him. Yeah i knwon all the stuff he is having a 30 cries, i still don't tihnk it's a reason. B/c if it was we could all go around sleeping with ppl we are attraced to and not care who we hurt. But life doesn't work like that. And i'm kinda glad he can't have it both ways. But that is me. I have a love/hate to this sl. 1 it hits to close to home ( won't say why b/c i don't feel like open up about my personal life) and 2 cheating is never ever a thing you should do. I knwon it's a soap and that is what soaps do. But still i don't like it. For me to really enjoy this i guess to knwon there is a light in the tunnel or something. Don't feel bad. I feel the same way I want Roman to lose it all and have to work hard to get it back. I hate the sl because I hate cheating. I don't believe the 30 crisis is an excuse to cheat either. There are plenty people I've been attracted to but didn't sleep with them. I'm fine now that I know they don't make Deniz play the fool for long. But I just cannot watch the episodes of Roman cheating on Deniz with Marc. It's too much for me, I'm patiently awaiting the newest spoilers so I can see how the aftermath plays out.
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Post by camjakefan on May 23, 2010 15:29:05 GMT -5
I've never seen it and to me the scene with Marc seemed to be the more explicit and grittier one. I really would like to see the cut version of Deniz and Roman's scene if that was too much.
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Post by camjakefan on May 23, 2010 8:02:47 GMT -5
I'm not talking about Marian. I was referencing his relationship with his mother. You can have one great parent and one lousy one which I know first hand. And no matter how great one parent is you often long for the love and care of the one who sucks and often wonder what it is about yourself that makes that parent mistreat you or not give a damn. At least that's my personal experience.
I know Deniz has a tendency to rage and shout but I believe this issue could be brought up just like we are now getting to see what made Roman into the man that he is today. We could also see how growing up with Deniz's mom made him into who he is. We his mom is cold and I always felt Deniz got into trouble a lot because he wanted some attention from his mom.
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Post by camjakefan on May 22, 2010 22:42:15 GMT -5
I'm so glad you mentioned Deniz's mother baggage. Last week Deniz told Florian that his mother abandoned him for a new lover, and at first I thought I was reading too much into that line. But if felt applicable to DeRoMa, at least in my mind. Marc's not a "new lover," but he could feel like he is being cast aside in the same way. I don't know if the writers will explore this, but it would be great if they did. This is why, although I hate the thought of DeRo splitting up and seeing Deniz and Roman in pain, I also love this storyline, because it has the potential to provide really meaty material and character exploration for both Roman and Deniz. The splitting up is not so bad for me because I believe eventually they will get back together. The storyline is creating lots of drama and giving Dennis and Igor great material to work with but please hurry up and get rid of Marc. I can't stand the character and that smirk he wears on his face and for me he's stalkerish and condescending and acts as if he knows what Roman's dreams are and what's best for him. I dislike Marc on principle because he's ringing all my bells and whistles because of things that piss me off and my experiences. I want to see the reveal and aftermath. All the crap that's leading up to it I can do without. I hope Roman realizes what he had in the end and messed up and kick Marc to the curb
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Post by camjakefan on May 22, 2010 17:27:55 GMT -5
I've been thinking over the newest spoilers and how Deniz will react. I'm one of those people who don't see Deniz holding a grudge long with those he loves. I would love to see DeRo reunited by the 1000th episode. But I think this will be hard. This is a different kind of betrayal especially after just committing himself to Roman in a way and letting him know he was ready to build a future with him.
I'm with those people who hope Deniz realizes this is not about him, but I think Roman's betrayal with Marc could bring up some insecurities for Deniz. Watching those old eps when Deniz first came on, I think most of us know Deniz has mommy issues, I think that's why he was always so selfish and had to be the center of attention because he didn't get that from his mother. She foisted him off on Marian when Deniz got in her way and she didn't want to deal with him anymore. This could be a hard blow to his sel-esteem. I've already seen it a little bit since Marc came to Essen, he asked Roman after their brunch did he miss going to the Opera and Theatre with him. Deniz has lost a little of his confidence with Marc there. Maybe he'll feel like he wasn't enough for Roman, why should he be his own mother didn't want him anymore. The writers could go this route or not even bring it up.
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Post by camjakefan on May 20, 2010 5:57:12 GMT -5
Roman needs to do some serious thinking too. Maybe now he'll realize what he had instead of chasing after some long dead dream. I love the fact that Deniz kicks him out. Earlier spoilers said he didn't tell him because he feared losing Deniz. well I think he will lose him now at least for a little will, until Deniz learns to deal with the betrayal. I don't see Roman choosing Marc. They've been having an affair for weeks and he never let anyone know publicly that he was with Marc. Marc should get a clue. I would have never started anything with Roman in secret if they were to eventually have a real relationship instead of an affair. Right now Roman is trying to eat cake and a slice pie it's too much
I hope they let Marian and Katja really be there for Deniz because Annette's gonna have to be there for Roman and Deniz will not want to talk to her when he finds out she knew.
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Post by camjakefan on May 19, 2010 15:39:25 GMT -5
thank heavens for that, especially the last spoiler, where Roman cant stand to be with Marc either, finally ... Ive been sick to my stomach with all this , spoilers were Roman cant stop thinking about Marc , blah blah.....now Roman realise who you really should be with, tell Marc to take a hike, and then get to work on how you are gonna win Deniz back,,,,thats gonna be tough,think it might take a while ....if ever .......at least with Marc gone, and yes, i have not watched since he arrived, as i hated the Storyline, i can get back to watching the ankst, of Roman winning back his real love, and yes i do like Ankst ,just not this daft Storyline, where Roman would ever cheat on Deniz. Although looking at the Picture wether Deniz was Physically, or verbally attacking Roman, Marc Punching Deniz would not go down well with Roman,..... oh i cant wait to see Marc getting in the only Taxi in Essen .. Ta Ta hunni....ermmm DON'T come back soon now...lol ermm and no way on earth will Roman choose Marc over Deniz....and Roman will now come to realise, you dont know what you had until its gone..Hard and Lonely times ahead for Mr Wild, ........... how did you stay away that's what I'm trying to do now. I was watching up until 932. I know I can't watch that othere crap. I've closed my youtube subscription notification out of sight out of mind. I was going to the website every day to watch. Made my reminder to go back June 21 so I can see it unfold. I hated this storyline too. This is the part I wanted to see the reveal and how both Deniz and Marc handle.
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Post by camjakefan on May 19, 2010 11:02:04 GMT -5
I don't hide my dislike for Marc but if he punched Deniz I will really hate him. What he doesn't expect Deniz to be angry and rage after he finds out his partner has been having an affair for weeks with this guy he tried to befriend and let in his home?
Deniz face is reminiscent to the one in the locker room when he found his torn up love letter he had written to Roman. I just want to hug Deniz right now.
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Post by camjakefan on May 19, 2010 10:08:16 GMT -5
I just saw the pic from 955 and Deniz's face is killing me.
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Post by camjakefan on May 19, 2010 7:58:14 GMT -5
How do you know, when to come back ... I just wanted to see when Deniz finds out. I don't wanna watch Roman deceive and lie to Deniz and he be made a fool of. Especially when he thanks Marc for taking care of Roman while he's gone. I'd prefer to go back and watch once I can see Deniz's reaction. Because part of me wants to see Roman suffer for this. I think he's an idiot to mess up something great on a shoulda, woulda, coulda. Leave the past in the past where it belongs.
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Post by camjakefan on May 19, 2010 7:26:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the spoilersI feel better now I know when Deniz finds out. I know exactly when to come back.
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Post by camjakefan on May 18, 2010 13:20:28 GMT -5
I agree with ladyarmand. Not many people would still be with Roman after discovering all the lies he's told. Especially when that's exactly what he used to badger Deniz about telling the truth.
First he finds out the story of his coming out was lie. Because he took Roman at his word, when in some ways Roman put a lot of pressure on Deniz to come out and accept himelf. When you find out about 50% or more of what someone has told you about their parents is a lie it's hard to deal with that. Deniz had just told Roman he trusted him completely to have Florian show up. This is a lot for a person to take. I think Deniz has been very supportive.
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Post by camjakefan on May 17, 2010 15:18:01 GMT -5
I was just reading over the spoilers again and I'm just sick. And after Roman's little slip of the tongue today made it worse. I think it's sad that I'm so emotionally invested in Deniz and Roman as a couple. I was trying to stick out but I just can't I think I'll watch up until Thursday and come back once Deniz knows and please don't let him play the fool for long. I don't think I could take it. I'm waiting for the next spoilers so I can know when I can comeback. I'm like a child whose scared her parents are gonna get a divorce.
I was going back and watching some of the Dark Years and I wish they would let Ingo play more of a role with Annette in talking with Roman. To me it always seemed that Ingo could get through to Roman. But they have him in the Axel/Centre/Zoe plot. Which brings me back to Roman when he was talking with Ingo and said "why do people always expect me to do the right thing?"
The thing I don't like about this storyline besides the obvious is I'm not getting Deniz's viewpoint. I wish I could write because I have colorful dreams about these two and how Deniz could possibly find out and deal with it.
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Post by camjakefan on May 17, 2010 12:36:04 GMT -5
Was Florian scared Deniz was gonna perv on him when he came out in his cute little underwear?
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Post by camjakefan on May 17, 2010 12:34:32 GMT -5
Just watched toda's ep. Was Roman about to say Marc when he walked into the flat and changed it to Florian. I understand most the eps now but still do not fully grasp the language yet.
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Post by camjakefan on May 14, 2010 20:52:46 GMT -5
I liked the very grown-up, relationshipp-y way Deniz and Roman interacted. Deniz doesn't take Roman's crap and even gives him a little push in the right direction. Nice. Agree about Katja and Deniz. So cute. (I get this Roman/Annette vibe from them). I liked Ben very much in today's episode. Open and honest even though he knew he would hurt two people he cared for. Good for him. And once again Roman in trainer mode and his really cute jacket. I like the red one with the fur. I agree with you about Deniz and Katja. I love their friendship they do remind me of Roman and Annette. I loved how happy Deniz was for her. As for Ben I wanna smack him. You never kiss your friend who has admitted to being in love with you even if you are drunk. And he should have stayed and talked to her that morning instead of waiting all day and letting her think it was gonna go somewhere, getting her hopes up. As for Deniz and Roman I'm glad Deniz doesn't let Roman overtalk him anymore. I think this started with the gay games storyline.
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Post by camjakefan on May 13, 2010 20:38:52 GMT -5
AAHHHH!!!!! Zainab just makes me wanna scream. What is wrong with her? Syed is her son. I just don't understand her, her husband is about to leave her, her family is broken and she still hasn't learned anything. How can she say that Syed when he just almost killed himself.
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