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Post by SF on Mar 19, 2010 13:09:24 GMT -5
oh dear i think i've fallen for rob and his slow, pervy chewing. i actually fast forwarded christian's scenes (*yawn*) to get to rolli. and i'm hoping if the opportunity should arise again, olli will give in temptation this time. i feel so dirty!!
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Post by SF on Mar 19, 2010 12:42:02 GMT -5
haha - they are so cunning and sneaky. they don't want to give us any extra character motivations OUTSIDE the actual show, so they put the vlog in the show and then start a little PR exercise to make it into an EXCLUSIVE! AWESOME!! EXCITING!! NEW!!! chrolli development, when really it's just an excuse to lockdown this little alternative bubble they created with chrolli.de...
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Post by SF on Mar 18, 2010 19:19:35 GMT -5
I think I know why I can't bother with Christian's jealousy. Because in my head I've already paired him up with Rebecca. It's the same as sitting through LySeb when a substory is already devoted to Lynsgar. You can't take the former seriously because the other (and in that case more interesting) option has been presented to you already. Without Rebecca in their storyline I would've looked at this entire arc very differently. But it's the same for Ludwig/Maria. Who cares about their fling if Ludwig/Elisabeth is so clearly OTP? It's like Christian/Nico when Coco was the real woman for him. Or, IMO, AnHel when TriHel is much more dramatic. I feel with Ollian like "why are they still stuck there?" As if the writers are stalling, but have made up their mind already. And, to be honest, aside from Olli mollycoddling Christian, I didn't see much chemistry between them in the new scene. I feel like "do these two know each other? who are they?" i agree! i think their chemistry is based on 55% natural magic and 45% being able to talk to and read eachother in a way no one else can. having a dialogue which is deeper and more meaningful than anything they've ever experienced before. nowadays they barely share a frame, let alone get a chance to talk and understand eachother. put simply, they don't understand eachother anymore. and that's whats making me doubt my loyalty to the couple. i mean the writers are systematically destroying everything i had faith in chrolli for and overwriting it for their own agendas. i so badly wanted a positive resolution - but i don't know if it's worth the wait. i mean what shape will chrolli and more importantly christian and olli be in 6 months down the line? will i even want them together? will they even want to be together?
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Post by SF on Mar 18, 2010 19:02:54 GMT -5
have you noticed christian barely smiles anymore either? he does this weird, snide, smirk thing - usually directed at olli (or rob) or at his own great wit when he;s cracking on about olli (a la the frog comment) - but there's barely any real smiles any more. the only ones i can think of recently have been with rebecca and because the actors have such little chemistry (i'm sorry but they really don't!) there's absolutely no warmth to it. in fact warmth is what is lacking in general, christian feels very cold and hard and unreachable lately. which is a shame because my favourite bits of early chrolli were when macho, manly, brooding christian cracked and did his huge, fat dimply smile, usually for olli or because of olli. but even for gregor or judith. it made him relatable and on a shallow note, thore can light up the whole scene with a 'real' christian smile. the last one i can think of was only really a half smile, on the picnic date. you know smiling with the eyes, sorta thing. maybe it's because thore has stopped being able to reach into his character and make him relatable, so the eyes just look dead. and the scenes come off lacklustre. i dunno. something's changed. and it's crap whatever it is.
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Post by SF on Mar 18, 2010 18:40:15 GMT -5
i LOVED christian in a big way. when i started watching it wasn't for olli at first. i thought they were both sweet but christian was so multilayered and interesting (not that olli wasn't) - and his mood swings and brooding temperament were all part of that. sometimes i don't recognise him anymore. he's turned into a pissy little bitch. and i try and make the two mesh in my head but they are like two seperate entities. the new hair doesn't help. he's turned into such a caricature of himself, well the drama queen side of himself, that olli recognised in the beginning. i'm trying to remind myself it's jealousy - because the conditions he puts on olli when it comes to socialising (and rob in particular) are ridiculous and unhealthy when you think he spends most of his time gallivanting with the countess and her manservant, i almost WANT olli to tell him to fuck off because i don't think it's fair on him. but at least if it stems from jealousy you could understand, or at least reconcile with his character, the irrationality of it. but for me to really buy the jealousy angle, i need more chrolli centric scenes and more rob scenes and more christian AND rob scenes. god, it's so frustrating.
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Post by SF on Mar 18, 2010 15:47:15 GMT -5
maybe the thing christian is pissed about is olli missing vlogging?! or is that a long shot?
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Post by SF on Mar 16, 2010 16:49:34 GMT -5
god - i think olli is an effing saint for walking away from NakedRob with his mind, body and soul still intact and focused on christian.
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Post by SF on Mar 16, 2010 13:30:40 GMT -5
i guess in terms of top 'gays' thore has had more of a SL ('had' being the operative word) to do with his character's sexuality than jo. the whole original story (which is what gave them any status in the gay community in the first place) was to do with christian coming to terms with who he was, and though olli took a beating for it, christian's life and persona and HIM falling for olli, instigated most of the significant story action. so i guess in terms of this poll he does deserve his place - especially considering some of the placements on that site aren't even on tv anymore and haven't been for YEARS.
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Post by SF on Mar 16, 2010 13:20:59 GMT -5
whens the first rolli kiss?!
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 23:21:10 GMT -5
nope that was kitty i think.
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 21:06:12 GMT -5
it's a subjective thing i guess. and i'm not really qualified. i do like jana's hair though - i keep wondering if it's all her own, cos it's really thick and long, and shiny for blonde hair.
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 20:58:35 GMT -5
to be fair, thore looks much better in VL than he does in candid photos like this (that hair is shocking - i'm not really sure what look he's going for) - i reckon anyone would, with lighting and professional make up artists. i agree with you, there's something kinda feline-esque about her features but i definitely don't see her as an 'acquired taste' - that to me, is someone like - cate blanchett, or julia stiles. and jana is more typical, run of the mill, hot blonde. [wow - i totally didn't mean that to sound like a backhanded compliment!! haha ]. but i think she's definitely up there with kristina dorfer and (hmmm) did VL have any other hot, bad girls recently?! looks-wise anyway.
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 17:54:32 GMT -5
personally i think it's a bit too far away in the past for them to dredge up. the current writers probably don't even know enough about those episodes to convincingly and comfortably write a current SL that makes mention of it. shame really. i'd be chuffed (and shocked) if they do though. as for your pic in the other thread (can't really help) i remember the episode but i don't remember when it was. sorry, otherwise i'd help you.
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 15:45:43 GMT -5
hehe. i love that straight up hawtness is a decision making factor for jo..! i know this is the jo thread but i wish thore could answer the same question - i would love to hear his choices and the reasoning behind it!! i bet whatever he had to say, it would be hilarious. and matt dallas is hot as f*$k and does possess a similar complexion to olli, but he's a bit out of this solar-system hot and what i liked about olli is that while there is no denying he is very, very beautiful, he could realistically live next door to you. he's the boy-next-door. ian somerhalder grates, if i'm honest. his face is really feminine and he tends to do this i'm-such-a-good-broody-actor face which just makes me want to scream. if after every olli scene i had to see him, with his quizzical arched eyebrow i think i'd scream. and kyle howard? wasn't he dating lauren conrad?? nuff said.. to be honest, i know it wasn't the point of the question, but i'd rather see a really talented unknown take the parts. make them their own. rather than thinking, "oh wow, there's such-and-such/such-and-such having a stab at being jo weil/thore scholermann being olli/christian." other than that, i guess matt dallas would be my favourite out of those three, purely because he's effing H.O.T. (and i'd love to see someone a bit more 'gritty' take on the role of christian). i wonder if they're gonna take the US chrolli all the way up to the chribecca crap we're sitting through now, or if we'll be spared!! i can only imagine rebecca being 10 x more annoying with a valley girl accent.
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Post by SF on Mar 14, 2010 13:47:15 GMT -5
kyle howard, matt dallas AND ian somerhalder?! haha ;D
jo so knows that he's gorgeous, and that its an essential part of any potential olli!!
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Post by SF on Mar 13, 2010 18:00:33 GMT -5
i actually do not know if i want chrolli to stay together if they don't do something to realign things. i mean i have a huge amount of (misplaced?) loyalty to these two characters who i've been watching for literal yearS now. but they don't feel like the same two people the story originated with - and neither of them are happy at the moment. i totally blame the writers, but i don't know if i think a resolution would be for them to realise how much they mean to eachother without much happening. i want a bit of fight, a bit of gusto and a cathartic ending which restores my faith in the product VL originally sold to me - not this knock off, diluted, whitewashed, cliched, second rate version of them that feiler is shoving down my throat. i mean i think either of them would be pretty unlucky to end up with the other, if there isn't any character growth. and i definitely don't want them to one day, after a break up, just wake up and realise, probably in bed with rebecca and robert respectively - that they made a mistake and actually things were better before - get back together and just regress to two years ago. i want them to be recognisably them, go through some struggles, retain the lessons learnt, and THEN get back together. thats why i keep hoping this is some elaborate plan on feiler's part to put them through the mill properly, the absolute worst case scenario (rebecca of ALL people!! and that bastard, rob) - so that we can really see a bit of stretch. but looking at the rest of the show and the direction so far, i'm not holding out hope. (god i really just depressed myself, WHY am i watching this show?!! )
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 18:48:30 GMT -5
i think feiler has a slightly warped (more mildly addled) moral compass and social conscience. i find every single one of her villains intriguing, and ultimately relatable (rob, eduard, lydia, even olli lately, and quite shockingly tristan and jessica (although i think the SL they've dished out is shite)) - and each and every one of her good guys, (christian (as much as it saddens me to admit), grelu, sebastian, rebecca, AnHel) righteous and near unbearable - same going for every shade in between. what she views as flaws in her characters i see as human-making attributes and what she cherishes and praises (and almost enshrines) i find annoying and bizarre. of course - it could be me with the warped social conscience and moral compass but i'm gonna stick to my original idea for the moment. ;D
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 12:45:28 GMT -5
yeah - don't ask me about grelu's sudden gooeyness over rebecca the brainless nitwit. i don't get it either. but i'm thinking it goes along the same lines as christian declaring she's his best friend AND a little sister figure one of feiler's annoying contrivances. and yes, olli is and was always super sweet to grelu, but he's super sweet to almost anyone - except, on occasion, his own boyfriend. gregor and christian are close, there's no question he wouldn't be a godparent. IF chrolli ever did break up - and bear in mind christian has been blabbing to all and sundry that he and olli have hit a rough patch - it just not a clever idea. okay - now i'm definitely inferring more thought in the character's brains than the writers probably intended. but what i'm trying to say, i just don't think it's that unusual for grelu NOT to name olli.
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 12:31:45 GMT -5
its hard with godparents though. i mean when you're any type of partner. life's unpredictable even for the most solid of couples, unless you have some kind of personal/seperate attachment to your siblings partner - i don't think it's a hugely clever idea. i mean if there ever was a break up, it's either gonna be really awkward, or your kid's not gonna have an involved godparent. plus olli's still uncle to the twins, the way things stand!! lucky babies!!
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 12:27:28 GMT -5
olli's right though - that hair is ridiculous.
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 12:02:42 GMT -5
what is going on with his hair?!
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Post by SF on Mar 12, 2010 9:14:37 GMT -5
don't speak too soon lugia. for all we know we may get the "christian and his princess go to waldensteyck happy ending" with olli left behind in dusseldorf to pick up the pieces of his life.
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Post by SF on Mar 11, 2010 20:46:12 GMT -5
haha - christian and his horses. to be honest i don't think the real threat is chribecca. i reckon olli should be more worried about chrilias...
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Post by SF on Mar 11, 2010 18:16:44 GMT -5
especially because christian said something about being at waldensteyck 'too much' after gregor said you will come visit us won't you. in that campfire scene. it's just a translation but to me it's almost like rebecca is a crappy echo of christian at the moment.
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Post by SF on Mar 11, 2010 15:32:52 GMT -5
and thanks lugia x
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