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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 12:40:35 GMT -5
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kes
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Post by kes on Aug 7, 2009 12:48:13 GMT -5
Thanks so much Ivan!!!!! You continue to be a god!
I found today's episode a tad difficult to watch. I was glad Christian and Olli made up at the end -- but something doesn't feel right. That call with Rebecca (and Christian's strange pause when it came in) seemed odd.
I wish I knew German!
The "make up" kiss was gorgeous, though. It was beautifully acted by Thore. These lovely moments of couplehood, of caring -- this is what make Ollian so special.
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Post by mona on Aug 7, 2009 12:55:22 GMT -5
I think Christian should stop his back and forth. Olli can't do anything right but he's doing his best and it seems like Christian is taking it for granted now ( a little bit). I thought Christian would have his "awww, Olli is loving me so much" face today when he overhears them talking but he seemed really grumpy. The Rebecca phone call was so weird.
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Post by final81 on Aug 7, 2009 13:01:54 GMT -5
The Rebecca phone call was so weird. What was so weird about Rebecca phone call? From what I gather, she was asking for help with Lydia's wedding and Olli seeing that Christian got nothing to do, offer Christian help. Christian obvious didn't want to help, came up with a excuse and left.
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 13:04:12 GMT -5
But he wasn't really angry, he just felt like invalid who needs a help even with finding a job. About that phone call, Olli wanted him to help Rebecca organise a hen party for Lydia if I heard well, I'd run away too ;D But I have a bad feeling about Rebecca, too, for no reason, just a hunch
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Post by IvVi on Aug 7, 2009 13:07:46 GMT -5
'm not sure about today's episode to be honest. Nothing to bring the story forward couple a cute shots (Chris eating or realizing what's really in the box) and that's it. OK, there was one thing that caught my eye - I spotted my national flag on the wall, sort of (at least the right colors in the right order). Behind the bathroom door
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Post by mona on Aug 7, 2009 13:22:10 GMT -5
But he wasn't really angry, he just felt like invalid who needs a help even with finding a job. I would understand that but when Olli is acting like everything is okay Christian is making comments about his situation. It's not really nice that he's complaining about Ollis help (feeling like an invalid) because sometimes he should also see the other side "He does it because he loves me" etc. That's something I would like to see more, it would only be fair for Olli because I think it hurts when everything get's rejected. Olli could be worse in a situation like that. In his sitaution I would have gotten the vibe to look for something too because Christian was so unhappy at the bar. Overall, I get the feeling now that Christian is pushing himself in the "invalid" corner because he sees every help as something like that and of course because of his "childish" behaviour when he still did his sport. I think I found Rebeccas phone call weird because she isn't even close to Olli and Christian and it's more a girls thing to throw a party like that. But I still think they have to talk more now. Olli is probably ignoring the "invalid" comments because of Christians health but Christian is throwing in this comments where I don't know where exactly he stands so to speak. After his sickness he should for once tell Olli what he's doing right, how good it is that he's there. (Not only the ILY moments like coming back from the woods). Basically it's just the moments like Christian saying "What if I doesn't get healthy?" and he asks Olli and Olli doesn't have an answer and it comes across like it's Ollis fault. Or Like Olli is making something worse.
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Post by final81 on Aug 7, 2009 13:27:35 GMT -5
I think I found Rebeccas phone call weird because she isn't even close to Olli and Christian and it's more a girls thing to throw a party like that. Maybe Rebecca wanted to use No Limits or flat-share to throw Lydia's party.
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 13:34:05 GMT -5
Maybe Rebecca wanted to use No Limits or flat-share to throw Lydia's party. Sebastian's party should be in NL. I hope they'll get him a male stripper ;D
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 7, 2009 13:38:07 GMT -5
ya'll...seriously, why are you making such a big deal about the Rebecca phone call???
Rebecca called wanting help with Lydia's party and when Olli looked to Christian to see if he wanted to help, Christian acted all weird cuz he didn't want to! and then he made an excuse to leave! why is everybody FREAKING out?!? I didn't see anything out of the ordinary there.
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Post by Pedris2 on Aug 7, 2009 14:03:04 GMT -5
ya'll...seriously, why are you making such a big deal about the Rebecca phone call??? Rebecca called wanting help with Lydia's party and when Olli looked to Christian to see if he wanted to help, Christian acted all weird cuz he didn't want to! and then he made an excuse to leave! why is everybody FREAKING out?!? I didn't see anything out of the ordinary there. I agree with you, I also saw nothing in it.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 7, 2009 14:10:37 GMT -5
;D I agree with you, I also saw nothing in it. yeah, thank you! It stresses me out when people think WAYY too hard about things. I can't see Christian EVER hooking up with or falling in love with Rebecca. I really don't think the writers would do that...its just stupid and doesn't make any sense. they'll hook Rebecca up with somebody else soon enough. that's what I think, and I'm sticking to it. CHROLLI FOREVER AND EVER ;D
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 14:12:48 GMT -5
They could try it if they wanted to make Rebecca even more popular
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Post by rhiannonhero on Aug 7, 2009 14:14:30 GMT -5
I didn't see anyone freaking out. I saw some people speculating based on today's interactions, and that is far from everyone "freaking out". The stress reaction to this seems much more like "freaking out" than the actual comments made. Draw it mild, Chrolliforever7! Draw it mild!! Anyway, I'm sad for Christian. His depression seems to be getting worse in some ways.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 7, 2009 14:14:50 GMT -5
They could try it if they wanted to make Rebecca even more popular do you really think they'd put Rebecca and Christian together to make Rebecca more popular?? I sure as hell hope they won't!!!!!
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 14:23:31 GMT -5
It's called joke Anyway, if people think that Christian should move on etc, it's not that simple, his dreams were crushed, everything was turned upside down. He has better moments, but the thought that he'll never be what he always wanted to be is still there and gets to him again and again. Today's job didn't help, he was really happy things may get better only to be crushed again.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 7, 2009 14:24:40 GMT -5
It's called joke Anyway, if people think that Christian should move on etc, it's not that simple, his dreams were crushed, everything was turned upside down. He has better moments, but the thought that he'll never be what he always wanted to be is still there and gets to him again and again. Today's job didn't help, he was really happy things may get better only to be crushed again. ok good, I thought u were joking but I wasn't sure. lol And I hope Christian gets a better job one of these days, he hasnt been having much luck lately. I feel bad for him..
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Post by rhiannonhero on Aug 7, 2009 14:28:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't remember if it was in the General Discussion thread or where, but someone pointed out again recently that Christian's life has kind of sucked a lot for a long time -- 2 times in prison for crimes he didn't commit, suicide of mother, death of father, and now the loss of his boxing career and health. Poor Christian! He's had it rough. And I think that he has got to be just incredibly sad right now. *sigh* Am looking forward to the English subs so I know what they are saying!
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Post by IvVi on Aug 7, 2009 14:33:31 GMT -5
I think you right Ivan, it is really hard to move on, easier to say than to do. And him seeing how busy Olli is that he doesn't even notice right away when Chris walks in makes him feel even more useless. Chris seems to be still thinking.... want to study, want to do sport but can't ... and that's paralyzing... he's concentrating more on what he can't do instead what he can do. †
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 7, 2009 14:34:26 GMT -5
ok good, I thought u were joking but I wasn't sure. lol And I hope Christian gets a better job one of these days, he hasnt been having much luck lately. I feel bad for him.. "even more popular" was a hint ;D BTW the actress said she's learning a lot of text, apparently she has something bigger coming, so she'd better not come between O&C
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 7, 2009 14:46:39 GMT -5
ok good, I thought u were joking but I wasn't sure. lol And I hope Christian gets a better job one of these days, he hasnt been having much luck lately. I feel bad for him.. "even more popular" was a hint ;D BTW the actress said she's learning a lot of text, apparently she has something bigger coming, so she'd better not come between O&C OH NO. I'm gonna start praying now!!! She better not. The writers can't do that to us Chrolli fans!!!!!!!!! We all have to start praying now, people. Pray that Rebecca doesn't come between Christian and Olli!!!
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Post by scarpien on Aug 7, 2009 14:50:07 GMT -5
"even more popular" was a hint ;D BTW the actress said she's learning a lot of text, apparently she has something bigger coming, so she'd better not come between O&C OH NO. I'm gonna start praying now!!! She better not. The writers can't do that to us Chrolli fans!!!!!!!!! We all have to start praying now, people. Pray that Rebecca doesn't come between Christian and Olli!!! LOL. Shit that's not good. Afterall, it was Rebecca's dream to be with a MANN!! I guess any MANN will do in that case. For both her and Olli's sake I hope not, cause Olli surely will kill her. And I really don't wanna see my sweet Olli in jail. lol
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Post by mona on Aug 7, 2009 14:59:17 GMT -5
Maybe I could take something meaningless but nothing more. But Olli vs. Rebecca and him not being the understanding guy would be the only thing I think I could like. When Olli is with Olivia he shows his snappy side sometimes and he definitely can if he wants to. It's kinda cute how Olli is looking down when Christian is saying he overheard things like "ohoh, he will be mad, I try to look cute" and it seems like this is working on Christian.
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Post by iclickmyheels on Aug 7, 2009 18:52:04 GMT -5
great ep today - at least from what i can tell without english subs. the storyline where he ends up getting a job being a tree is something that could have been straight out of an episode of friends or something - except of course christian is depressed and this will probs only make it worse. but there were a lot of cute couply moments today - i think these new writers are doing an amazing job, and the boys are doing a wonderful job of creating a realistic relationship. i think those blogs are really helping - i see the elements of 'realness' that we see in the blogs stretching into today's episode. I especially loved when Olli ruffled Christian's hair after they kissed, and also, just the tiny gesture of Christian placing his hand over Olli's before he walked away in the first scene just seemed so sweet. Ahh, i'm all emotional today.
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Post by tone on Aug 7, 2009 18:59:08 GMT -5
Anyway, if people think that Christian should move on etc, it's not that simple, his dreams were crushed, everything was turned upside down. He has better moments, but the thought that he'll never be what he always wanted to be is still there and gets to him again and again. Today's job didn't help, he was really happy things may get better only to be crushed again. Absolutely! I have found Olli rather pushy throughout this storyline... telling Christian to get another dream on the same day he was out of hospital, treating him like he's made of glass, coddling him and now with the job, I can well understand Christian reacting. There's alot not sitting right with me about Olli lately. Don't get me wrong, I want them to stay together, but something's bugging me and I think it's related to me seeing Olli as being on the whole too controlling.
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