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Post by sunshine0786 on Jun 17, 2014 20:31:33 GMT -5
Well, he sure is showing some addiction on being tied up, so it's better if he practise his new hobby in a safe enviroment, and JP is probably one of the very few sane persons in his life. So if JP decides to kipnap him, i'm all for it. As long as it's consensual of course, suddenly i have the bad feeling of a HO writer reading this and getting ideas of JP going psycho on poor Ste LMAO!!! Fifty Shades of HO!!!! Where Ste realises he cant sleep at night as he dreams of being kidnapped... And likes it... One night while drunk he asks JP to kidnap and tie him up... Maybe a little too thrilling and tongue in cheek for HO... Pity because that would be one FUN sl! That's what fanfiction is for!
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Post by morgain on Jun 18, 2014 2:29:11 GMT -5
LMAO!!! Fifty Shades of HO!!!! Where Ste realises he cant sleep at night as he dreams of being kidnapped... And likes it... One night while drunk he asks JP to kidnap and tie him up... Maybe a little too thrilling and tongue in cheek for HO... Pity because that would be one FUN sl! That's what fanfiction is for! Thanks! But it was more of a continuation of a joke more than a real desire to see it... If anyone does fanfic it have fun!!
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jun 18, 2014 14:48:41 GMT -5
That's what fanfiction is for! Thanks! But it was more of a continuation of a joke more than a real desire to see it... If anyone does fanfic it have fun!! I got that. I was also joking. But I'm sure someone would write something similar.
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Post by morgain on Jun 18, 2014 18:57:16 GMT -5
Thanks! But it was more of a continuation of a joke more than a real desire to see it... If anyone does fanfic it have fun!! I got that. I was also joking. But I'm sure someone would write something similar. Ahhh humour.... Can get so lost in writing!!
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jun 18, 2014 19:26:38 GMT -5
I got that. I was also joking. But I'm sure someone would write something similar. Ahhh humour.... Can get so lost in writing!! Yes, the art of tone of voice. Very hard to recreate online.
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Post by morgain on Jun 19, 2014 2:39:50 GMT -5
Ahhh humour.... Can get so lost in writing!! Yes, the art of tone of voice. Very hard to recreate online. Someone would earn millions if they could do a dry/sardonic humour icon thing...
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 19, 2014 12:12:20 GMT -5
The worst part is that such kinky storyline (that will be impossible) probably will be a lot less offensive that Ste relationship with Brendan and JP's rape storyline.
Maybe they could get it on Hollyoaks later (and it would be way less shocking than Brendan's last bloodbath)
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Post by morgain on Jun 19, 2014 23:55:02 GMT -5
The worst part is that such kinky storyline (that will be impossible) probably will be a lot less offensive that Ste relationship with Brendan and JP's rape storyline. Maybe they could get it on Hollyoaks later (and it would be way less shocking than Brendan's last bloodbath) Well it's all about consenting adults making decisions vs victims of violent circumstances. I have to wonder why in ho they either have victims or abusers. Nothing in between and no evolution of characters. I know we cant do comparisons with reality but I would love to see characters a little more rounded ones that could be a victim and could stand up for themselves as well. They can throw out the poor me and tell ther abuser to get *beeped*
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Post by morgain on Jul 1, 2014 23:26:25 GMT -5
Read the new spoilers. Finally we are going to see some movement in the rape s/l. (it sounds a bit ceap saying it like that!!) but I really want see Finn brought to justice! The writers said it is going to happen. When you say??? Well that's the real question!
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 3, 2014 6:17:36 GMT -5
Is Ste going to try and fight for JP's honor from those spoilers?
Sigh. I took a look at the first page of Hollyoaks Spoilers Only thread from 2012. Riley, Dennis, Leanne, Texas and Doug. All dead with the exception of Dennis.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 3, 2014 6:22:36 GMT -5
The worst part is that such kinky storyline (that will be impossible) probably will be a lot less offensive that Ste relationship with Brendan and JP's rape storyline. Maybe they could get it on Hollyoaks later (and it would be way less shocking than Brendan's last bloodbath) Ah...don't you know. The idea of JP and Ste being together (in their future storyline) IS actually more offensive than Ste choosing to stay with his abusive, self-hating AND murderous lover. Broken viewers.
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Post by trini on Jul 3, 2014 17:22:25 GMT -5
Is Ste going to try and fight for JP's honor from those spoilers?Sigh. I took a look at the first page of Hollyoaks Spoilers Only thread from 2012. Riley, Dennis, Leanne, Texas and Doug. All dead with the exception of Dennis. I do think that Ste "taking matters into his own hands" will be response to JP telling him about the rape. However, I have a feeling that Ste will be going after the wrong person. I won't be surprise if he doesn't assume that it's Trevor and the rape happened in prison.
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 3, 2014 18:03:39 GMT -5
It must be like watching reruns all the time with the storylines he gets. I havent watched the show in months, but going by my twitter feeds, nothing's changed or gotten better. His downward spirals never make much sense or get any more creative, yet they insist on them. As for romance, well, theyve always treated that especially unrealistic in Ste's case. Ste's quite a sexual being, not to mention exceptionally beautiful, yet he hasnt been with anyone since Doug died last October. And even then the men he gets leave a lot to be desired or arent guys he should want anything to do with. I thought when that character Ray McCormick flirted with him a couple months ago, well, I hoped it could lead to something, because they were hot together and the actor playing Ray was Cristian Solimeno from Footballers Wives and he's been a crush forever, but of course it didnt happen and we all know why. Pretty shitty if you ask me, since they were always bringing in randoms for Brendan and somehow JP despite being boring and average-looking, manages to sleep with every other gay character like the desperate village manwhore you dont want anyone to find out you hooked up with. You gotta wonder what they even brought the Lomaxs in for if not to create storylines for Ste, but its become obvious that wasnt the real intention. It was just to exploit his popularity and backstory to bulk up the cast. Hollyoaks obviously brought on the Lomax family, to give us the compelling bisexual (which he told Sam in college *eyeroll*) character of Danny! Don't you find married, serial cheaters, who almost sleep with their biological children, the BESTEST! I could have written each one of your words. It's ridiculous that Hollyoaks had Ray flirt with Ste, in order to lead to nothing. Maybe if he was getting some Bruiser Replacement dick, he wouldn't have time to serve as an understudy to New Jack City's Pookie!
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 3, 2014 18:07:12 GMT -5
The worst part is that such kinky storyline (that will be impossible) probably will be a lot less offensive that Ste relationship with Brendan and JP's rape storyline. Maybe they could get it on Hollyoaks later (and it would be way less shocking than Brendan's last bloodbath) Yet another reason why it's too bad that " this year, in order to retain focus on the main Hollyoaks brand, Hollyoaks Later will take a break" I can't with some of these press releases. I bet it comes back next year, even more EPIC & full of more STRENGTH, than when Bruiser killed his grandma...
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 3, 2014 18:09:41 GMT -5
Read the new spoilers. Finally we are going to see some movement in the rape s/l. (it sounds a bit ceap saying it like that!!) but I really want see Finn brought to justice! The writers said it is going to happen. When you say??? Well that's the real question! LOL! Hollyoaks also had PJ Brennan out in the press saying that Doug & Ste's unmentioned marriage would be "sorted!" I think that interview was in April. By October, homeboy was dead. I can't with this show.
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 3, 2014 18:11:22 GMT -5
The worst part is that such kinky storyline (that will be impossible) probably will be a lot less offensive that Ste relationship with Brendan and JP's rape storyline. Maybe they could get it on Hollyoaks later (and it would be way less shocking than Brendan's last bloodbath) Ah...don't you know. The idea of JP and Ste being together (in their future storyline) IS actually more offensive than Ste choosing to stay with his abusive, self-hating AND murderous lover. Broken viewers. You know the deal D - Bruiser is everything, EVERYTHING; any other lovers are nothing, NOTHING
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 3, 2014 18:14:35 GMT -5
Is Ste going to try and fight for JP's honor from those spoilers?Sigh. I took a look at the first page of Hollyoaks Spoilers Only thread from 2012. Riley, Dennis, Leanne, Texas and Doug. All dead with the exception of Dennis. I do think that Ste "taking matters into his own hands" will be response to JP telling him about the rape. However, I have a feeling that Ste will be going after the wrong person. I won't be surprise if he doesn't assume that it's Trevor and the rape happened in prison. We all know what Ste's gonna do... Puff out his chest & scream: I WON'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITH RAPING JOHN PAUL (while whitewashing the fact that JP has allowed his rapist to get away scot-free for months); but the first time someone raises a hand, to scratch an itch, in his direction, he's going to cower down like Bruiser Brady is about to use him for target practice.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 3, 2014 19:33:37 GMT -5
I do think that Ste "taking matters into his own hands" will be response to JP telling him about the rape. However, I have a feeling that Ste will be going after the wrong person. I won't be surprise if he doesn't assume that it's Trevor and the rape happened in prison. We all know what Ste's gonna do... Puff out his chest & scream: I WON'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITH RAPING JOHN PAUL (while whitewashing the fact that JP has allowed his rapist to get away scot-free for months); but the first time someone raises a hand, to scratch an itch, in his direction, he's going to cower down like Bruiser Brady is about to use him for target practice.Too tight, BrothaSoap. Too right.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 3, 2014 19:35:29 GMT -5
Is Ste going to try and fight for JP's honor from those spoilers?Sigh. I took a look at the first page of Hollyoaks Spoilers Only thread from 2012. Riley, Dennis, Leanne, Texas and Doug. All dead with the exception of Dennis. I do think that Ste "taking matters into his own hands" will be response to JP telling him about the rape. However, I have a feeling that Ste will be going after the wrong person. I won't be surprise if he doesn't assume that it's Trevor and the rape happened in prison. Yeah. It's been awhile for the audience to see Pookie cowering in fear from Trevor. It's sad that we've come to the point that we joke about the state of these characters, because the storylines have been reduced to plot points (that anyone actually using their brain could predict was going to happen).
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 4, 2014 5:57:28 GMT -5
It must be like watching reruns all the time with the storylines he gets. I havent watched the show in months, but going by my twitter feeds, nothing's changed or gotten better. His downward spirals never make much sense or get any more creative, yet they insist on them. As for romance, well, theyve always treated that especially unrealistic in Ste's case. Ste's quite a sexual being, not to mention exceptionally beautiful, yet he hasnt been with anyone since Doug died last October. And even then the men he gets leave a lot to be desired or arent guys he should want anything to do with. I thought when that character Ray McCormick flirted with him a couple months ago, well, I hoped it could lead to something, because they were hot together and the actor playing Ray was Cristian Solimeno from Footballers Wives and he's been a crush forever, but of course it didnt happen and we all know why. Pretty shitty if you ask me, since they were always bringing in randoms for Brendan and somehow JP despite being boring and average-looking, manages to sleep with every other gay character like the desperate village manwhore you dont want anyone to find out you hooked up with. You gotta wonder what they even brought the Lomaxs in for if not to create storylines for Ste, but its become obvious that wasnt the real intention. It was just to exploit his popularity and backstory to bulk up the cast. Hollyoaks obviously brought on the Lomax family, to give us the compelling bisexual (which he told Sam in college *eyeroll*) character of Danny! Don't you find married, serial cheaters, who almost sleep with their biological children, the BESTEST! I could have written each one of your words. It's ridiculous that Hollyoaks had Ray flirt with Ste, in order to lead to nothing. Maybe if he was getting some Bruiser Replacement dick, he wouldn't have time to serve as an understudy to New Jack City's Pookie! Well, the show has had proof from the most recent past years that a particularly vocal subgroup of fans liked seeing Ste constantly messed up in his life and at the hub of all that chaos was his abusive lover. Anytime that Ste tried to make a change that kept him from causing more pain in his life, the refrain was that "he wasn't being TRUE to himself." The 3 other Series Producers followed this disturbing trend, including the current series producer that introduced the Ste Hay character back in 2006, Bryan Kirkwood. Richardson finally got wise and used that to parlay other opportunities (his 3 years ongoing radio show and other things that come from being involved in Hollyoaks). Sadly, Ste will always be a "Pookie", regardless of who he's paired up with on this soap.
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Post by trini on Jul 4, 2014 8:16:51 GMT -5
I do think the decision to make Danny's both Ste's father and JP's lover was done at the last minute and done only because they wanted to keep the conflict between Ste and JP.
As for the Lomaxes, that family was built more for the actress who plays Leela than it was for Ste she was hired almost a year before they actually used her on the show, they probably realise it was better to bring her in as part of a family than as individual character.
They attached the Lomaxes to Ste for the same reason they attached the Roscoes to Darren, it help with longevity of the characters, it was less about Sandy being Darren's mother and Danny being Ste's father.
With Sandy leaving the other Roscoes still have a connection in the village that could be use whenever needed and the same thing could be said for the Lomaxes.
I wouldn't be surprise if the person who will betray Ste isn't Danny because he's jealous for the relationship between JP and Ste, and once found out his family would turn their backs on him. I wouldn't be surprised if Danny exist also.
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 4, 2014 14:46:55 GMT -5
I do think the decision to make Danny's both Ste's father and JP's lover was done at the last minute and done only because they wanted to keep the conflict between Ste and JP. They attached the Lomaxes to Ste for the same reason they attached the Roscoes to Darren, it help with longevity of the characters, it was less about Sandy being Darren's mother and Danny being Ste's father... ...or Patrick being Dodger's biological father! Hollyoaks is ridiculous with this. They bring on a parent, or reveal that an established character is a parent, but then they do next to nothing to nurture a believable connection between parent and child. I bet we could use one hand to count the number of relationship developing conversations that Sandy, Danny & Patrick have had with Darren, Ste & Dodger. But they're old anyway, so they don't matter... right? I hope Sienna doesn't expect to have much of a relationship with her new onscreen daughter. In about five minutes, that kid will be sleeping with and abusing Dodger, behind the back of her girlfriend Esther. But don't feel bad for Esther, because Nico did tell her that she was bisexual. I mean... she kinda whispered it, while Esther was sleeping, but still!
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Post by brothasoap on Jul 5, 2014 14:36:16 GMT -5
Hollyoaks obviously brought on the Lomax family, to give us the compelling bisexual (which he told Sam in college *eyeroll*) character of Danny! Don't you find married, serial cheaters, who almost sleep with their biological children, the BESTEST! I could have written each one of your words. It's ridiculous that Hollyoaks had Ray flirt with Ste, in order to lead to nothing. Maybe if he was getting some Bruiser Replacement dick, he wouldn't have time to serve as an understudy to New Jack City's Pookie! Well, the show has had proof from the most recent past years that a particularly vocal subgroup of fans liked seeing Ste constantly messed up in his life and at the hub of all that chaos was his abusive lover. Anytime that Ste tried to make a change that kept him from causing more pain in his life, the refrain was that "he wasn't being TRUE to himself." The 3 other Series Producers followed this disturbing trend, including the current series producer that introduced the Ste Hay character back in 2006, Bryan Kirkwood. Richardson finally got wise and used that to parlay other opportunities (his 3 years ongoing radio show and other things that come from being involved in Hollyoaks). Sadly, Ste will always be a "Pookie", regardless of who he's paired up with on this soap. The other day I read an article reviewing The Leftovers; the point of the author was that the show seemed to be confusing darkness with depth, which seemed clear from its insistence on keeping characters rooted in misery. Which show does that sound like? This quote resonated with me: The most interesting thing about a world after the Rapture is not that those who remain are miserable and wallowing. That’s the presumption the show ought to have worked through before getting to the real stuff... Where has the focus of Hollyoaks been since The Rapture-esque Hollyoaks Blast: Maxine's Neverending Abusive Story With Patrick; The Tragedy that is John Paul's FAILURE TO REPORT his Rapist; Ste "Pookie" Hay's Unhealthy Addiction to MANpain And Hollyoaks thinks this is the most interesting thing in the WORLD! I'd bet that most of us would strongly disagree.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2014 18:30:20 GMT -5
Well, the show has had proof from the most recent past years that a particularly vocal subgroup of fans liked seeing Ste constantly messed up in his life and at the hub of all that chaos was his abusive lover. Anytime that Ste tried to make a change that kept him from causing more pain in his life, the refrain was that "he wasn't being TRUE to himself." The 3 other Series Producers followed this disturbing trend, including the current series producer that introduced the Ste Hay character back in 2006, Bryan Kirkwood. Richardson finally got wise and used that to parlay other opportunities (his 3 years ongoing radio show and other things that come from being involved in Hollyoaks). Sadly, Ste will always be a "Pookie", regardless of who he's paired up with on this soap. The other day I read an article reviewing The Leftovers; the point of the author was that the show seemed to be confusing darkness with depth, which seemed clear from its insistence on keeping characters rooted in misery. Which show does that sound like? This quote resonated with me: The most interesting thing about a world after the Rapture is not that those who remain are miserable and wallowing. That’s the presumption the show ought to have worked through before getting to the real stuff... Where has the focus of Hollyoaks been since The Rapture-esque Hollyoaks Blast: Maxine's Neverending Abusive Story With Patrick; The Tragedy that is John Paul's FAILURE TO REPORT his Rapist; Ste "Pookie" Hay's Unhealthy Addiction to MANpain
And Hollyoaks thinks this is the most interesting thing in the WORLD! I'd bet that most of us would strongly disagree. Taken from most recent interview with Kieron regarding Ste Hay's character, current storyline and what makes Ste interesting to fans. hahah Pookie will continue to be a big ol mess. But, he won’t be constantly beaten by his new love interest. Ste was NEVER, EVER, EVER going to end up Hollyoaks' male version of Mrs. Haversham from "Great Expectations". The idea that he was supposed to not find new love is absolutely ridiculous. Just makes me laugh!!
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