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Post by daleeryohm on Jan 25, 2014 8:44:12 GMT -5
Dennis makes a business proposition the same day as the new restaurant opens, and that's the day after the deli burns down, which the spoilers really seem to imply is done by Trevor/Fraser to get Ste the insurance money.
It'll mean a quick turnover on that insurance policy, but I think the proposition has got to be about the student house and Dennis is selling to Ste.
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Post by daleeryohm on Jan 25, 2014 19:23:00 GMT -5
I wonder if this is misinformation, because the soapsquawk article says that the deli's been sold, but then who sets the fire - and why? Hmm.
And the best JP can do is mark down Finn's grades? Really? This is why this storyline is a joke. He's trying to 'fight back' but yet he can't just go to the police. OK. And the 'shocking twist' will no doubt be he throws himself at Danny.
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Post by trini on Jan 25, 2014 22:51:50 GMT -5
I wonder how often will they have fires now so that Leela could come to the rescue.
I know that Hollyoaks want to prolong the JP/Finn storyline but I not sure turning Finn into another psycho villain constantly bullying JP is the way to go.
While I know that most rape victims don't report their rape, I still think an effective story could have been told with JP doing all the right things and the rape going to trial and Finn not being found guilt based on preconceived notions that the jury and viewer have about male rape and gay sexuality.
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Post by daleeryohm on Jan 26, 2014 1:50:27 GMT -5
They'll get to taking the rape to court in a few more months, and make it a huge melodrama so it's fresh in people's minds for the BSAs.
It'll have totally fallen apart as a storyline by then because of them dragging it out though to be any good for awards. It's probably not good for any even just based on the immediate aftermath episodes.
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Post by atlanticslide on Jan 26, 2014 13:06:12 GMT -5
While I know that mostm+ rape victims don't report their rape, I still think an effective story could have been told with JP doing all the right things and the rape going to trial and Finn not being found guilt based on preconceived notions that the jury and viewer have about male rape and gay sexuality. Interestingly, the JP/Finn storyline and Maxine/Patrick storyline are progressing in similar ways, both somewhat realistically in the fact that rape victims and domestic abuse victims frequently don't report the crimes, and yet I'm struggling to sympathize with Maxine in her protecting Patrick and covering up the abuse even as I can totally understand and sympathize with John Paul feeling unable to name Finn as his attacker. I think the thing to remember is that there is no one "right" way to go about things when you've been attacked and raped, so I wouldn't say that John Paul is going about things the "wrong" way, but I do wish the show would shed a bit more light on just what he's feeling and why he may feel so helpless in this situation. It's a small village and everyone knows everyone, and John Paul surely knows that if he reports Finn then everyone will know what happened. And especially for a man who is gay, who's a teacher, it's going to open him up to a lot of speculation about him, his sexuality, his lifestyle, and he's already been struggling with keeping the respect of his students, so I think it would make a lot of sense that it might be going through his mind what could happen if he reports Finn. I just wish they'd actually delved into some of that in the immediate aftermath rather than having John Paul tell us that he feels disgusted with himself and then leave the rest of what's going through his mind up to the audience to guess.
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Post by atlanticslide on Jan 27, 2014 17:43:55 GMT -5
Based on tonight's episode it really does seem as if the returning Mcqueen is Myra. Yeah, I take back my earlier speculation of Michaela. Having seen today's Channel 4 episode I agree that it definitely looks like it'll be Myra, which I'm pleased about because after Jacqui Myra is the McQueen I'd most like to return.
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Post by daleeryohm on Jan 29, 2014 15:53:24 GMT -5
The show's been godawful for a long while now, but still there's always the silly hope things might miraculously turn around at any time. And it's in that spirit I post about recent spoilers.
So the first round of spoilers were wrong. Apparently Trevor finds out Ste plans to sell the deli to pay him back for the loan he gave Tony, and so he sets the deli on fire to keep them in his debt. Makes more sense than the deli burning down after Ste's already sold it, though this could have been an insurance plot too.
And JP takes his anger out on Tom and Peri when he comes home from school and finds out Matthew fell off the couch when they were babysitting. I can't even remember the last time there was a scene of JP even holding Matthew, but whatever. And so what's the point of how Sam reacts to his outburst at Peri? So what?
And the week of the 10th, Vincent/George/Phoebe return, but it definitely looks like it could be heir exits. The decision on Vincent's asylum appeal is made, and he makes a decision George tries to change his mind about, and then they just disappear from the spoilers for the rest of the week. Hopefully they leave together then.
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Post by trini on Jan 31, 2014 18:49:55 GMT -5
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Post by candyflossuk on Feb 2, 2014 19:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on Feb 3, 2014 5:35:27 GMT -5
Ahh, Kieron I wish that I could share your belief that the "interest" of JP and Ste will be embraced by your main fanbase of Stendan fans. They will never accept Ste with anybody else and will bide their time and want Brendan to "save" him, from his "dull life in the village." As for JP, I just hope that Finn is punished for his rape, attack and continued harassment of his teacher. I'm not at all interested on seeing the rapist's point of view or his family's attempts to save him from taking responsibility for his crime. Kieron just wants to continue to keep his job.
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Post by atlanticslide on Feb 4, 2014 11:25:27 GMT -5
I'd be interested to see Finn's family's reactions, mostly because I'd like to see Diane get some grief for raising the two worst children ever (though I think the writers have already forgotten about Sinead's bullying). I do think it'll be interesting, though, to see how different characters react when the news breaks and if Diane and Tony will initially take Finn's side and not believe John Paul. I'm really curious about what Robbie will do with the news.
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Post by gidi on Feb 4, 2014 12:36:44 GMT -5
I believe fan accept ste and j.p in relation
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Post by dmagiclight on Apr 25, 2014 16:18:58 GMT -5
I believe fan accept ste and j.p in relation me to
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2014 9:51:47 GMT -5
I'm a Stendan fan and i think Ste and JP would make a brilliant couple.
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2014 10:14:58 GMT -5
I must say, Kieron is so beautiful! Absolutely stunning! He's the sexiest male in soap, for me.
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Post by candyflossuk on May 16, 2014 22:43:44 GMT -5
I think it's pretty clear where they are going with Ste/JP now.
Trevor is forcing JP (by threatening him and Matthew) to obtain a confession of guilt for Fraser's murder from Ste. JP and Ste will end up falling for each other and get together. Then Ste will find out about JP's 'betrayal' (I put betrayal in '' marks because that is how it will be portrayed, even though JP neither wants to do Trevor's dirty work nor has much of a choice) and will dump JP. JP will be left heartbroken yet again and Ste will fall back into his pattern of drugs, self destruction etc. Possibly further along the line they will come together again and 'save' each other but first it looks set to just be more relationship misery for JP because he isn't allowed happiness or a normal relationship.
Hopefully I'm wrong and HO surprise me when it comes to JP, for once.
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Post by trini on May 23, 2014 19:47:40 GMT -5
As with everything there will be the had core fanbase that will never accept Ste with anyone other than Brendan and JP with anyone other than Craig ( I've seen tweets ) but I think the fact that they are two well liked characters that are in a bad state in the moment make the general fanbase more open to the idea.
As some who never cared for either Stenden or McDean as ships I have no dog in this fight but I don't dislike Ste and JP together.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 24, 2014 4:34:10 GMT -5
As with everything there will be the had core fanbase that will never accept Ste with anyone other than Brendan and JP with anyone other than Craig ( I've seen tweets ) but I think the fact that they are two welled liked characters that are in a bad state in the moment make the general fanbase more open to the idea.As some who never cared for either Stenden or McDean as ships I have no dog in this fight but I dislike Ste and JP together. Which is exactly why I'm not so put off by the show pairing them together. It's what usually happens on soaps with straight characters. As for James saying that JP's had everybody else, why not Ste. Made me laugh and he's right. If Erica Kane on All My Children can be married 9 times in Pine Valley, then JP can try to have all the gay men in Chester.
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Post by morgain on Jun 16, 2014 4:20:14 GMT -5
I'd like to see JP and Ste hook up. I think they both need a bit of a break and have a nice fall in love sl to counteract the all the other stuff happening in their lives!
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 16, 2014 14:57:34 GMT -5
Ste is simply too busy being kidnapped every week to have a love life.
I would like if they end the stupid rape storyline to watch this again without cringe
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 16, 2014 16:38:35 GMT -5
Ste is simply too busy being kidnapped every week to have a love life. I would like if they end the stupid rape storyline to watch this again without cringe I busted out in laughter (at my job no less) when I read your post. Sadly, it's true. He's either being beaten up, forced to do something against his will, or throwing his life away, because he has "no friends".
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Post by morgain on Jun 16, 2014 20:20:12 GMT -5
Ste is simply too busy being kidnapped every week to have a love life. I would like if they end the stupid rape storyline to watch this again without cringe Perfect! JP can kidnap Ste!
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Post by daleeryohm on Jun 16, 2014 23:22:22 GMT -5
It must be like watching reruns all the time with the storylines he gets.
I havent watched the show in months, but going by my twitter feeds, nothing's changed or gotten better. His downward spirals never make much sense or get any more creative, yet they insist on them.
As for romance, well, theyve always treated that especially unrealistic in Ste's case. Ste's quite a sexual being, not to mention exceptionally beautiful, yet he hasnt been with anyone since Doug died last October. And even then the men he gets leave a lot to be desired or arent guys he should want anything to do with. I thought when that character Ray McCormick flirted with him a couple months ago, well, I hoped it could lead to something, because they were hot together and the actor playing Ray was Cristian Solimeno from Footballers Wives and he's been a crush forever, but of course it didnt happen and we all know why. Pretty shitty if you ask me, since they were always bringing in randoms for Brendan and somehow JP despite being boring and average-looking, manages to sleep with every other gay character like the desperate village manwhore you dont want anyone to find out you hooked up with.
You gotta wonder what they even brought the Lomaxs in for if not to create storylines for Ste, but its become obvious that wasnt the real intention. It was just to exploit his popularity and backstory to bulk up the cast.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 17, 2014 8:41:08 GMT -5
Ste is simply too busy being kidnapped every week to have a love life. I would like if they end the stupid rape storyline to watch this again without cringe Perfect! JP can kidnap Ste! Well, he sure is showing some addiction on being tied up, so it's better if he practise his new hobby in a safe enviroment, and JP is probably one of the very few sane persons in his life. So if JP decides to kipnap him, i'm all for it. As long as it's consensual of course, suddenly i have the bad feeling of a HO writer reading this and getting ideas of JP going psycho on poor Ste
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Post by morgain on Jun 17, 2014 16:16:18 GMT -5
Perfect! JP can kidnap Ste! Well, he sure is showing some addiction on being tied up, so it's better if he practise his new hobby in a safe enviroment, and JP is probably one of the very few sane persons in his life. So if JP decides to kipnap him, i'm all for it. As long as it's consensual of course, suddenly i have the bad feeling of a HO writer reading this and getting ideas of JP going psycho on poor Ste LMAO!!! Fifty Shades of HO!!!! Where Ste realises he cant sleep at night as he dreams of being kidnapped... And likes it... One night while drunk he asks JP to kidnap and tie him up... Maybe a little too thrilling and tongue in cheek for HO... Pity because that would be one FUN sl!
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