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Post by brownsugar on Nov 9, 2009 15:51:34 GMT -5
Hey ! maybe more Chrolli scenes if Thore or Jo become mister soap ;D So true flo...because if that's all it takes to get more screen time. But is there a mister SOAP?
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Nov 9, 2009 15:52:01 GMT -5
I know, I miss Chroust too. he was absolutely amazing. I guess it takes a gay man to know how to write a really good gay storyline...I'm not really into Dero, so I don't keep up with what's going on with them, but they must be doing really well right now with Chroust writing for them.
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Post by flo86 on Nov 9, 2009 16:00:35 GMT -5
Hey ! maybe more Chrolli scenes if Thore or Jo become mister soap ;D So true flo...because if that's all it takes to get more screen type. But is there a mister SOAP? Good question ! i don't think omg imagin miss soap Jasmin and mister soap Thore conclusion for the writters : .....
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Post by betavsall973 on Nov 9, 2009 16:01:48 GMT -5
I know, I miss Chroust too. he was absolutely amazing. I guess it takes a gay man to know how to write a really good gay storyline... I'm not really into Dero, so I don't keep up with what's going on with them, but they must be doing really well right now with Chroust writing for them.yeah you are right. they are doing well now I know why.
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Post by brownsugar on Nov 9, 2009 16:04:14 GMT -5
So true flo...because if that's all it takes to get more screen type. But is there a mister SOAP? Good question ! i don't think omg imagin miss soap Jasmin and mister soap Thore conclusion for the writters : ..... Yes...and they could wear those king and queen type crowns while parading on a big float down town...like they do in some places over here in the US when they have a miss and mr whatever title.
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Post by flo86 on Nov 9, 2009 16:10:08 GMT -5
Good question ! i don't think omg imagin miss soap Jasmin and mister soap Thore conclusion for the writters : ..... Yes...and they could wear those king and queen type crowns while parading on a big float down town...like they do in some places over here in the US when they have a miss and mr whatever title. Oh the nightmare
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Post by brownsugar on Nov 9, 2009 16:13:24 GMT -5
I know, I miss Chroust too. he was absolutely amazing. I guess it takes a gay man to know how to write a really good gay storyline...I'm not really into Dero, so I don't keep up with what's going on with them, but they must be doing really well right now with Chroust writing for them. I don't follow DeRo either...but the fans are pleased with the current storyline now that Chroust is at the helm. You don't want to stereotype...but in this instant it really did take a gay man to create the brilliant story of Olli and Christian. And since Chroust left it has suffered somewhat. There are time when the writers have done some wonderful scenes between Olli and Christian, but they are so few and far in between at the moment. And the story-lines which were started and had good potential are not followed through, so Ollian's story just seems choppy and doesn't flow very well. I still love them though. They still remain the best couple and love story on TV, all thanks to Jo and Thore.
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Post by dalphine on Nov 10, 2009 6:09:46 GMT -5
I agree because what happen to Christian, sex problem they didn't complete that. But Christian and Ollie are the best gay couple in my opinion. I will stick with to the end. I do watch DeRo sometimes but I can't go without my fix of Christian and Ollie I'm truely addicted.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Nov 10, 2009 9:10:08 GMT -5
I agree because what happen to Christian, sex problem they didn't complete that. But Christian and Ollie are the best gay couple in my opinion. I will stick with to the end. I do watch DeRo sometimes but I can't go without my fix of Christian and Ollie I'm truely addicted. Oh, absolutely, dalphine, Christian and Olli are and always will be the best gay couple EVER. they're amazing. And I'm not going to give up on them. I just won't. Unless....shit hits the fan, Christian dumps Olli, etc. But then I'd continue to watch the show for Olli to make sure he finds someone new. BUTTTTTTTTT that's if and only if that happens. Which it probably won't. I'm gonna stay positive always ;D
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Post by ivaniv on Dec 4, 2009 14:36:24 GMT -5
I used to love this show, I even avoided my friends a few times to be able to watch it at 6 PM ;D I was hoping for a couple of months it would change for the better, but I really don't know if I can stand this drivel for much longer. At this stage I could not care less if Christian shagged Rebecca in Monday's episode. And given the writers that's actually a possibility
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Post by kes on Dec 4, 2009 14:38:29 GMT -5
I used to love this show, I even avoided my friends a few times to be able to watch it at 6 PM ;D I was hoping for a couple of months it would change for the better, but I really don't know if I can stand this drivel for much longer. At this stage I could not care less if Christian shagged Rebecca in Monday's episode. And given the writers that's actually a possibility Oh Ivan! I know what you mean. Today practically screamed CHRIBECCA. However, the Vlog seemed to have a different "feel." Didn't you think so? Anyway, I'm trying to remain positive, but feel comforted by your intelligence.
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Post by lolaruns on Dec 4, 2009 14:42:58 GMT -5
It's not just Chribecca for me though. For me the shift between a show I would reccomend to others and one I feel I can no longer reccomend happened somewhere last spring? I think around the No Limits story. I didn't hate it, but I just no longer felt like I just HAD to get out there and sermonize to people ( ;D) about what they were missing. Because I generally only believe in advertising things that I truly think are above averange. I was still hoping that the point would come where it would be a "must reccomend" for me again, but so far it's still too sluggish for me to feel that it's something that really needs to have the word gotten out because it would potentially appeal to a lot of people if they just knew about it. And it's sad that rather than improving from that "meh/boring/trite/average" state it seems to go further down.
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Post by kes on Dec 4, 2009 14:44:46 GMT -5
Lola, Ivan: Do you know if there is any chance they might change writers again?
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Post by sylstyle on Dec 4, 2009 14:50:02 GMT -5
Lola, Ivan: Do you know if there is any chance they might change writers again? OMG yes please and it's not only about Chrolli every other storylines stink. Even Andi and Helena are boring as hell. At least we have Tristan, Tanja, Ansgar, Elisabeth and Maria. Even Schlesselman (am I right about his name) was better Sylvain
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Post by ivaniv on Dec 4, 2009 15:02:08 GMT -5
I haven't seen the blog yet, I downloaded it to watch it later. And I get it, they talk about things that happened to them and Rebecca happened to them a lot. But they are either with her or talk about her. I was really hoping they could keep it a Rebecca-free zone this time and do something else. St Nikolaus is coming, why not to show them giving each other some presents or something As for the rest of the show, I only like Ansgar and Maria atm, he made me laugh today when he said Maria not to be so stingy with that drug for Tanja, but that's not enough to make a good let alone a great show.
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Post by jj8899 on Dec 4, 2009 16:12:17 GMT -5
my only problem with todays episode (ha - well only problem if you mean: moment i was totally disgusted by) was rebecca slapping christian on the arse with her clipboard... not so bad in itself, but what was the flirty and coy smile he gave her after she did it? the bitch nearly got you PUT AWAY - and all she has to do is cover herself in piss and you forgive her!?!? christian is good-hearted but he needs to grow a pair... seriously...
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Post by thunderkat on Dec 4, 2009 17:20:20 GMT -5
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was so upset when i saw it Johnny, i usually can keep a pretty level head about that sort of thing, but i seriously saw red when she did that. I wanted him to give her a good right hook and be like "Bitch, that belongs to Olli!" Objectively, it was innocent, I do that to my friends all the time, play a little grab-ass here and there...but that IRKED the $%@! out of me.
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Post by mycatfox on Dec 5, 2009 2:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by ivaniv on Dec 5, 2009 4:24:37 GMT -5
Go and write that at the blog, I just did ;D That's the place where they can really hear you. They can ignore us, but at least they will know we are not buying that BS.
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Post by stregatta on Dec 21, 2009 20:48:32 GMT -5
Ok, perhaps I'm the only 1 today wanting to "rain a little on VL parade"! ;-P) Generally speaking, I feel to be close to jj8899 & what he wrote at pag.4 of this thread...(+BTW hell yeah, I remember an old UK course for the language, where I stayed with a Brit family, watching Eastenders & another Aussie-soap...LOL, too bad!! ;-D) I mean, I really appreciate Jo & Thore's work, on the contrary, I wouldn't have joined this fans' group...On the other hand, I really have to admire you all, for having been so emotionally linked to a plot that for many months simply sunk... I'm a recent fan, since this summer's end, so I've fresh in mind the beginning of Chrolli's plot, & how it used to be...(& YT is a devil, 'cause through that unforgettable #45 part, made falling in love so many people!! ;-O) Well, simply now I can't feel the same perfect vibe; at the start, they made me a believer of the TRUE LOVE, regardless that I'm not gay, so usually I watch other romances, but this one has been so powerful to convince me to follow throughout... Ok, then it simply DISAPPEREAD...It's like Chrolli are accepted by the VL's others, better still, they exist almost only to support the friends/ families' issues, etc... It's like when we finally have said: OH WELL, AT LAST A WONDERFUL BRAND NEW KIND OF ROMANCE TO STAY TUNED FOR (+INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS)...They've started to kill it slowly...Even softly, as for instance the clever idea of making the notorious VLOG...(Cute & nice, but we didn't need it before, because there was a real story to watch!) ANYWAY WHERE IS THE SUBSTANCE??!! I mean, sorry, I'm not the kind of fan who would go to the moon to greet & kiss the actors, sorry again if I'm not the type that "OMG J & T ARE NAKED IN BED...WHOA THE KISSES ARE WITH TOUNGUE OR WITHOUT, blah-blah..." (Of course don't be upset, I respect others who think it's so important, 'cause they've a virtual crush on them ;-P) but you get what I mean... Not 'cause I'm a stone-cold person, but IMO the real spell, that leaves you breathless, is in the mind 1st of all; is for that reason that in many shows they keep for so long the sexual tension: 'cause it attracts deeply the viewers to the point...Then after that magical moment you had really to come up with 1st class-ideas to go on at the same level with the storyline, honestly, do you think they've done it for all these faithful fans around?! I don't think so: people simply have been too hopeful & accommodating with the show...Probably if Thore & Jo would have been less handsome, someone will have already quit with the show, isn't it?! ) Regarding today's ep, yep, finally they have made love...Well, a 40 sec-love I had to pause my YT to watch better, with that unbearable character of Becca-witch almost literally inside their (our) minds/ or at least their bedroom, to ruin the whole scene...& ok, Chris told Olli about the wonderful eyes, wow!...& so what?! It's just that?! EXCUSE ME, BUT IT SEEMS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!!...40 seconds-make up after months of nothing?? (Story+sex scenes as well, if I don't get wrong). As if it weren't enough, we got this always through the eyes of Rebecca's character, as if Chrolli aren't really that much important to deserve their POV, after all, but of secondary importance!! I'm under the impression that we got those pretty hot scenes only as a Xmas-present; & 'cause after they will be all 1 against each other for their next plot. All in all, sorry again for having seen it as a bittersweet scene, but it's what I've felt watching...I'm delusional perhaps, and disappointed. Naturally I'll try to stay positive for the next hopefully big storyline for them, involving the new villain-character & all the rest, but if the writers are the same, I don't know... Last but not least, for 2010 my wish is talking less regarding the bad things & falling for Chrolli again, thanks to the stunning new plot! (As when, you know, you talk less about love 'cause you're making it! ;-P) Ciao a tutti***
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Post by mitsaso on Dec 21, 2009 21:55:41 GMT -5
Non ti preoccupare, stregatta, I have a feeling that soon all of our worries will be dispelled and we'll have some portion of our old Chrolli sensation back! ;D LOL maybe this is the wrong thread to say positive stuff
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Post by stregatta on Dec 21, 2009 22:33:21 GMT -5
Non ti preoccupare, stregatta, I have a feeling that soon all of our worries will be dispelled and we'll have some portion of our old Chrolli sensation back! ;D LOL maybe this is the wrong thread to say positive stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bravo!! Allora non mi proccuperò+... ;D I've really hope for a better Chrolli's treatment too, it's only that the majority of people seems to be satisfied with some little scenes here & there: which doesn't exactly make a big proper story... Lately it was like to be there watching another show; plus being not such a fan of Grelu or others, ya know... PS_ I wanted to add my Cheshire Cat avatar, but I don't succeed... I will try another time, it's too late, & I'm lost again in the net...(I'll come the bad guys of Matrix if I don't cut now...Buonanotte / Buongiorno!) Ciao
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Post by kes on Dec 21, 2009 22:33:25 GMT -5
Streggatta, you make good points. (I'll take issue with only one: I don't think it's Jo's and Thore's looks that attract people. It's the way they reach out to their fans, and something like community.)
However, Chroust is gone, and nothing has been the same since then. Who knows what the influence of Grundy is on the show?
I have decided to be positive, though. I still love VL: the new writing team is the new writing team. They are giving Jo and Thore a storyline. I'm choosing to stay and to be positive. (Thanks Mitsaso!)
However, everything you say has merit.
I hope this message seems supportive. I'm glad to read your concerns and to see you here.
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Post by stregatta on Dec 21, 2009 22:54:27 GMT -5
Streggatta, you make good points. (I'll take issue with only one: I don't think it's Jo's and Thore's looks that attract people. It's the way they reach out to their fans, and something like community.) However, Chroust is gone, and nothing has been the same since then. Who knows what the influence of Grundy is on the show? I have decided to be positive, though. I still love VL: the new writing team is the new writing team. They are giving Jo and Thore a storyline. I'm choosing to stay and to be positive. (Thanks Mitsaso!) However, everything you say has merit. I hope this message seems supportive. I'm glad to read your concerns and to see you here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Kes, I've read your messages & you've always made good straight-to-the-point observations! ...& like Mitsaso & you, even if it doesn't seem so much, I'm optimistic that somehow we'll have this longed for new beautiful story! (if not, really, I never join here...) You're right, the community-feeling has reached lots of people everywhere, it doesn't happen every day fr sure; (I've seen on YT an old long interview by Thore, on ThoreItaly channel on YT, if I remember well : pointing out that even the actor didn't expected at all this overwhelming reaction...& I'm glad all the fans love so much gathering to VL-cause & the boys too! These actors have been capable of such an affectionate audeince? Alright, KUDOS to them by heart! I know about the changing of the writer, etc...Sometimes changing is even a good thing, it could also mean a new approach to it, now that they've trained quite a lot months ( ?!). I was simply wondering if instead the fans had had a different approach towards them (as you know, when they got angry in the vlog, & for once VL replied to them with an upset note! )...Perhaps something would have changed faster/ before?! Could be or couldn't be, or it's just the money, & the tv-audience that makes the real difference, as it already happened with other good shows before...Ciao tschuss to the next
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Post by kes on Dec 22, 2009 8:31:55 GMT -5
Streggatta, you make good points. (I'll take issue with only one: I don't think it's Jo's and Thore's looks that attract people. It's the way they reach out to their fans, and something like community.) However, Chroust is gone, and nothing has been the same since then. Who knows what the influence of Grundy is on the show? I have decided to be positive, though. I still love VL: the new writing team is the new writing team. They are giving Jo and Thore a storyline. I'm choosing to stay and to be positive. (Thanks Mitsaso!) However, everything you say has merit. I hope this message seems supportive. I'm glad to read your concerns and to see you here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Kes, I've read your messages & you've always made good straight-to-the-point observations! ...& like Mitsaso & you, even if it doesn't seem so much, I'm optimistic that somehow we'll have this longed for new beautiful story! (if not, really, I never join here...) You're right, the community-feeling has reached lots of people everywhere, it doesn't happen every day fr sure; (I've seen on YT an old long interview by Thore, on ThoreItaly channel on YT, if I remember well : pointing out that even the actor didn't expected at all this overwhelming reaction...& I'm glad all the fans love so much gathering to VL-cause & the boys too! These actors have been capable of such an affectionate audeince? Alright, KUDOS to them by heart! I know about the changing of the writer, etc...Sometimes changing is even a good thing, it could also mean a new approach to it, now that they've trained quite a lot months ( ?!). I was simply wondering if instead the fans had had a different approach towards them (as you know, when they got angry in the vlog, & for once VL replied to them with an upset note! )...Perhaps something would have changed faster/ before?! Could be or couldn't be, or it's just the money, & the tv-audience that makes the real difference, as it already happened with other good shows before...Ciao tschuss to the next I think the writers may be catching on . . . but I think Zam was right in a post when he said that a kind approach would be better than anger. The writers may need letters to know precisely what the problem is. There is a time issue here: The make storylines well in advance and film weeks in advance. Even if they do make a change, it will take time to register. We need to be patient. However, I think telling the writers when they get things right is a good idea. Sometimes you can's do things better unless you know how you have done well in the past. What storylines have worked on the show (with the new writing team)? Has anything worked well with Christian and Olli (aside from the sex scenes). I would say the time Christian came to Olli with that menu was beautiful. These writers may need to hear what they do well. Sometimes we make people into the clunkers we tell them they are. I worry about Jasmine for this reason: negative energy can permeate the soul, and it can make one do worse at one's job instead of better. (I think Jasmine has had good moments. It's not her fault that she's been given too much of a role too soon.) Anyway, sorry to run off on a tangent. However, I love this community -- and that means the people here too! That's what keeps me coming. With Love, Kes
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