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Post by vidamirador on Feb 5, 2012 17:56:55 GMT -5
Yep Raw is on Sundays. It's just over! Pavel came back! Looking as cute as ever, but had to make his own way from the airport because stinking Selena didn't pass on the message.. boo.. Also when he arrives home he finds Selena in his bed- turns out she had gotten drunk the night before and passed out in Geoff's bed.
Pavel seems a bit ticked off with this but thaws out over breakfast- and after a cute kiss on the cheek from Geoff! He brings Geoff a present and they have their nice little kiss that we see in the preview. After that there are some nice scenes together in the restaurant and then Pavel goes for a walk with evil Selena... He tells her that his uncle owns a building in Prague that he thinks would make a perfect restaurant that Geoff and him could run together. But he says that he's worried that Geoff won't want to because of his passion for RAW. Think he also asks Selena not to say anything to Geoff....
Which she promptly does . Geoff talks to Pavel and gets mad as Selena had made it sound like Pavel had already made the decision without him. They have a fight and it more or less ends like that.
Next week is the 6th episode, does anyone know how many there are in this series?
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Post by sorriso on Feb 5, 2012 18:02:05 GMT -5
OMG! I can't wait to see it!!! That sounds so awesome! I think next week's episode is the last one. -.- That's so sad already Thanks for telling us about the episode! ;D
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Post by rtgtx on Feb 6, 2012 0:12:32 GMT -5
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Post by elomelo on Feb 6, 2012 7:40:39 GMT -5
rtgtx Thank you so much for the uploads! I love how you include some parts of the other storyline as well so we have a better idea of what's going on. Poor Pavel and Phillip! It's so frustrating that Selina is so blatantly out to sabotage Pavel and Geoff, considering how welcoming and trusting Pavel was despite finding her passed out in his boyfriend's bed. And then to go blab about the potential restaurant when Pavel clearly told her not to. /facepalm/ I don't know what she hopes to gain by breaking them up -- maybe some sort of petty payback or the whole if-I-can't-have-him-no-one-will attitude -- but she's really doing some damage, turning them against each other. The whole marriage thing is really going to hurt, considering Geoff lecturing Pavel on a couple being honest with one another when he hasn't really been honest at all. And Pip Poor kid. Jojo was very out of line but I felt bad for her too...she's so different from the Jojo of last season, so damaged. Yikes only one episode. I look forward to seeing if/how they all resolve everything I'm holding out for a happy ending though stormy waters are still to come. :\
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Post by Urban Sprawl on Feb 6, 2012 10:45:51 GMT -5
Nice that Pavel is back but also interesting to see the power balance in the relationship doesn’t seem to have changed much since the reconciliation.
Geoff treated Pavel like crap when they first got together and has never really had any respect for his job at Raw, even since he became front of house manager. He slagged off his English and was incredibly patronising about Pavel’s enthusiasm for his work (series 2).
Now it looks like Geoff is still pretty much laying down the bottom line. I would be intrigued to see how things pan out if they do open a restaurant in Prague. Geoff would become pretty much dependent on Pavel as he would have the language, the contacts, the local knowledge etc. Geoff hates not being in control. I could totally see them breaking up.
In other news… Selena: wtf?! Does she love Geoff or really, really hate him? Why has he not kicked her out? And seriously, so Geoff and Pavel haven’t spoken/mailed since he called to ask Geoff to pick him up? Jojo was horrible in that episode but I suppose she’s always had a nasty streak (like when she tricked Rebecca into believing Bobby had cheated on her in series 1). Kate – go away. Far away. And don’t come back. Fiona – love the new look but meh to your storylines.
How they are going to tie up all the loose ends in 50 minutes next week, I have no idea. There’s far too much going on. I really, really hope Geoff & Pavel get enough time to bring their storyline (and the whole deal with Selena) to a credible close.
From RTE: Next week: Selina dishes the dirt on her marriage to Geoff.
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Post by Isabella on Feb 6, 2012 11:49:52 GMT -5
Nice that Pavel is back but also interesting to see the power balance in the relationship doesn’t seem to have changed much since the reconciliation. Geoff treated Pavel like crap when they first got together and has never really had any respect for his job at Raw, even since he became front of house manager. He slagged off his English and was incredibly patronising about Pavel’s enthusiasm for his work (series 2). Now it looks like Geoff is still pretty much laying down the bottom line. I would be intrigued to see how things pan out if they do open a restaurant in Prague. Geoff would become pretty much dependent on Pavel as he would have the language, the contacts, the local knowledge etc. Geoff hates not being in control. I could totally see them breaking up. In other news… Selena: wtf?! Does she love Geoff or really, really hate him? Why has he not kicked her out? And seriously, so Geoff and Pavel haven’t spoken/mailed since he called to ask Geoff to pick him up? Jojo was horrible in that episode but I suppose she’s always had a nasty streak (like when she tricked Rebecca into believing Bobby had cheated on her in series 1). Kate – go away. Far away. And don’t come back. Fiona – love the new look but meh to your storylines. How they are going to tie up all the loose ends in 50 minutes next week, I have no idea. There’s far too much going on. I really, really hope Geoff & Pavel get enough time to bring their storyline (and the whole deal with Selena) to a credible close. From RTE: Next week: Selina dishes the dirt on her marriage to Geoff.I think you have to take into consideration the fact that this is just who Geoff is. Pavel's English is quite goofy and broken, it's one of his quirks, and because of that, Geoff teases him. It's like making fun of someone for being short or chubby. It's not supposed to be mean. I believe Geoff really loves Pavel, but he just doesn't know how to show it sometimes. Keep in mind he was nearly 30 when he and Pavel got together and that was his first relationship! I agree it's a bit funny that they seem to have barely talked since Pavel's been away. A little unrealistic, if you ask me. Why didn't Pavel just call Geoff and be like "where duh fuck are you?" instead of just walking. This show has a lot of plot holes I've noticed. But they are still one of the cutest couples I've ever seen <3. Selina is a dumb bitch and I hope she gets a knife thrown in her eye. Or maybe a mallet.
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Post by rosemonday on Feb 6, 2012 13:53:04 GMT -5
I agree it's a bit funny that they seem to have barely talked since Pavel's been away. A little unrealistic, if you ask me. Why didn't Pavel just call Geoff and be like "where duh fuck are you?" instead of just walking. This show has a lot of plot holes I've noticed. But they are still one of the cutest couples I've ever seen <3. Selina is a dumb bitch and I hope she gets a knife thrown in her eye. Or maybe a mallet. In my opinion it's just a sign of lazy writing - the only way they seem able to push their plot forward is to have characters fail to communicate vital information to each other - and to give no good reason why they don't. Exactly - why didn't Pavel ring Geoff from the airport? Geoff could have been on his way & just running a bit late for all Pavel knew. Geoff & Selena seem to have barely spoken about anything important either - and she's been there for weeks now? He still doesn't know what happened to her in London, also they don't seem to have discussed their marriage and what it means for both their futures. Selena doesn't seem that bright does she - yet she constantly manages to get away with causing trouble. Presumably because Geoff is so scared she'll spill the beans. I'm guessing that's why he also hasn't "encouraged" her to move out - I thought she was looking for her own place? Yet she's still hanging round like a bad smell, insinuating herself between Geoff & Pavel.
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Post by tubedout on Feb 7, 2012 5:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by maya on Feb 7, 2012 10:46:40 GMT -5
now I'm really worried for next week episode thanks for the new clips tubedout rtgtx
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Post by elomelo on Feb 7, 2012 14:58:23 GMT -5
I'm holding out for a happy ending too but am curious to see how they manage to pull it off considering all the bad feelings at this point. I hope it's not a rushed ending though it very well may be...
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Post by tubedout on Feb 7, 2012 16:54:58 GMT -5
I don't think the ending would have to be rushed. After all, it shouldn't take more than an episode for the misunderstanding between Geoff and Pavel to be cleared up. "I was going to ask you if you wanted to open a restaurant, but creeper Selena spun it wrong." "Yeah, that sounds like creeper Selena. Yeah sure, it'll be hard leaving Raw, but maybe it's time. Let's do it!" Even Selena's marriage reveal seems like the sort of thing that even tempered Pavel would not fall for her attempt to rile him up.
Remember, it's not like they have to leave town in the finale. They just have to reach the decision together. The start of next season, they will just say "Pavel and Geoff left to start their restaurant." After all, that's how every season has started - with a significant amount of time having passed, and new changes in people's lives. At the end of Season 1, we just saw Mal walk away in the night, then season 2 began with Raw closed and everyone scattered. There wasn't a blow by blow of Mal and Tanya leaving, so I don't expect that for Geoff and Pavel.
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Post by elomelo on Feb 7, 2012 20:13:47 GMT -5
"Yeah, that sounds like creeper Selena." I actually laughed out loud You're right, that makes sense but I wanted to see the whole going-into-the-sunset bit. And I didn't know about Mal just walking away (I can only watch the Geoff and Pavel SL), I thought there'd be more to it than that but I guess the show keeps things like this fairly minimalist.
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Post by valso on Feb 8, 2012 10:47:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the clip tubedout, especially for the download link. I keep my fingers crossed for next week, I totally love this couple and I'll be devasted if they'll ruin everything at the end.
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Post by Urban Sprawl on Feb 12, 2012 17:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by Isabella on Feb 12, 2012 17:45:40 GMT -5
OMG?! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED?
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Post by cathy29 on Feb 12, 2012 18:25:37 GMT -5
OMG I read on FB Pavel died .How did that happen.
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Post by talula on Feb 12, 2012 18:37:20 GMT -5
OMG I read on FB Pavel died .How did that happen. oh no!!!! another dead gay?! wtf is this?
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Post by cathy29 on Feb 12, 2012 18:41:11 GMT -5
OMG I read on FB Pavel died .How did that happen. oh no!!!! another dead gay?! wtf is this? This suxs other great couple has been destroyed by death.
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Post by Isabella on Feb 12, 2012 18:43:39 GMT -5
OMG I read on FB Pavel died .How did that happen. oh no!!!! another dead gay?! wtf is this? SERIOUSLY. D:
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Post by MandaStar on Feb 12, 2012 19:01:27 GMT -5
Eh I read it to. Makes me sad first Edwin and Now Pavel
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Post by Isabella on Feb 12, 2012 19:02:07 GMT -5
Eh I read it to. Makes me sad first Edwin and Now Pavel Do you know what happened? I'm dying over here. xP
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Post by Urban Sprawl on Feb 12, 2012 19:05:52 GMT -5
Yeah, he's gone.
We know that Krystof wanted to leave Raw so I suppose the writers were somewhat limited in their exit choices, particularly if Damon wanted to stay.
If there isn't another series I will be be really p*ssed off with the pointless death.
On the other hand, if we have a series 5, I might be somewhat less angry that Geoff and Pavel didn't get their sunset ending if it at least means that Geoff returns.
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Post by cathy29 on Feb 12, 2012 19:06:56 GMT -5
How did Pavel die.
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Post by Urban Sprawl on Feb 12, 2012 19:07:53 GMT -5
#pavel is trending right now in Ireland!!!
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Post by vidamirador on Feb 12, 2012 19:10:07 GMT -5
Unfortunately I can confirm...the rumours are true but I have to say that if Pavel had to leave and Geoff stay then they really did do it in a perfect (but heart wrenching!) way. Like I would have been so sad if they had broken up or even if they had a long distance thing so in that way maybe the ending was the best they could do of a bad situation! The episode though, was gorgeous! I missed the start but from where I came in, about half way through they were so great together- completely working as a team and with so much mutual respect and love. Just a brief synopsis... Again I missed the start, I saw from where Pavel had found out Geoff had been married to Selena but he forgives fairly fast. Pavel digs in Selenas stuff and finds out that she stole €5000 from the restaurant in London. Geoff and him then go to Selena and give her 5000 to go back and pay back the restaurant- also so she won't report Geoff for marrying for a visa. Pavel and Geoff then talk about the new restaurant and decide to go for it! Oh either before or after that- not sure when- philips dad comes tearing in and pushes Pavel- he falls and smashes his head on a table/ but is fine straight after. They announce to everyone that they're leaving- well in 10 months to open the restaurant . Then....Geoff asks Pavel to marry him....Pavel says yes... for some reason at this stage I knew what was going to happen! They're having dinner and Pavel goes to get a bottle of alcohol he'd brought back for Geoff.... coming down the stairs he clutches his head...(actually has quite a long dying scene) then Geoff comes out and finds him, and cradles him and ... It was so tragic and heartbreaking.. But I thought they had some really beautiful scenes in this last episode so im happy with them for that
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