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Post by Urban Sprawl on Jan 24, 2012 12:54:18 GMT -5
OMG we're halfway through series 4 already!! For those of us with withdrawal symptoms...
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Post by wallywa617 on Jan 24, 2012 14:21:23 GMT -5
gah i miss him sooooo much =(((
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Post by cheerios on Jan 25, 2012 3:34:21 GMT -5
Maybe Kate takes after Dan, while Fiona and Emma take after their mothers? I hope Shane kicks her to the curb and Jojo and him reunite as siblings. Because it looks like they are really going to need each other. Jojo is just imploding so quickly and I don't see her stopping anytime soon. She needs to finally admit how she feels to someone and stop torturing herself and her liver
Dan does seem a bit too controlling and meddling in his daughters lives as a father.
Selena must have really saved Geoff's butt if she has him so easily around her finger. Plus he did look honestly happy to see her when she showed up.
Pavel, I know your enjoying your visit back home. But it's time to come back, your friends and Geoff need you. Hopefully he's in the last two episodes.
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Post by elomelo on Jan 25, 2012 6:37:32 GMT -5
I hope Pavel shares some of his stories from the Republic, especially those pertaining to his family (have they forgiven him?) and what they think of Geoff who I can imagine Pavel gushes about. Ack, I wish they gave us morsels at least -- maybe a peek at Geoff's voicemail, messages they leave each other, or even just Geoff talking to Pavel on the phone. They don't need Krystof for that xD
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Post by rosemonday on Jan 25, 2012 12:00:54 GMT -5
Yes, I was just thinking they could at least have shown Geoff on the phone to Pavel by now, seeing as he must be missing him a lot! A good interview with Damon on the RTE site : www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0125/raw.htmlBest bits : "It's obvious that Selena knows a secret about Geoff's past that people are going to be shocked to discover - tell us about Geoff and Selena's relationship?" "Well Selena is one of those friends who represents a certain era of our lives and sometimes you want to have grown up and moved on. When you are reminded of it you don't want to be that way anywhere. She reminds Geoff of the person he was in his early 20s - a pretty wild and reckless man hitting all the gay clubs with his best girlfriend and getting up to all kinds of debauchery. I think he is a bit embarrassed about it while she is quite happy to tell anyone who will listen. He is very protective about his past life and would like it to stay in the past. " "How is Geoff going to keep Selena in line?" "Very carefully! She is a bit of a firecracker so he needs to keep her on side. No point in riling her up or she would be liable to blurt anything out." "What about Selena getting job in Raw?" "Eh . . . that would need a lot of deep breaths!" "Pavel is away at the moment but will be back soon; where is Geoff and Pavel's relationship at the moment?" "I think it is the best it has ever been, they have been through so much. I think Geoff is much soppier and cuddlier and it's just great! I think this is the first season where there hasn't been some sort of pill-popping, crisis or bashing - everything is going along just nicely." "Will it remain that way for the rest of the series?" "We'll have to see!" "Can you sum up what life is like for Geoff in the second half of this season?" "It's manipulation, gently trying to engineer the situation with Selena, especially when Pavel comes back. He needs to keep certain information from Pavel and make sure any information that he does get comes across in the right way. He also starts to really think about his future with Pavel and whether they are going to stay in Raw or move somewhere else. It is an exciting time and I think they are ready to take the next step in their relationship." "For you personally, is Raw something you would like to have in your future?" "I don't know yet. You will see when you see the ending that it is interesting. It feels like a beautiful journey that is kind of about done now, but then another part of me really cherishes everything about the show and Ireland as well. So it is a tricky decision to make, because I have such a good time!"
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Post by anthonyl on Jan 25, 2012 12:07:53 GMT -5
Sounds like they're going to end it (at least for Geoff and Pavel) with a marriage or something. They already teased this early on in that spoiler about Pavel asking Geoff something life changing. At least that's what I think it said. It was so long ago when I wrote about it in my column!
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Post by Isabella on Jan 25, 2012 12:25:12 GMT -5
Yes, I was just thinking they could at least have shown Geoff on the phone to Pavel by now, seeing as he must be missing him a lot! A good interview with Damon on the RTE site : www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0125/raw.htmlBest bits : "It's obvious that Selena knows a secret about Geoff's past that people are going to be shocked to discover - tell us about Geoff and Selena's relationship?" "Well Selena is one of those friends who represents a certain era of our lives and sometimes you want to have grown up and moved on. When you are reminded of it you don't want to be that way anywhere. She reminds Geoff of the person he was in his early 20s - a pretty wild and reckless man hitting all the gay clubs with his best girlfriend and getting up to all kinds of debauchery. I think he is a bit embarrassed about it while she is quite happy to tell anyone who will listen. He is very protective about his past life and would like it to stay in the past. " "How is Geoff going to keep Selena in line?" "Very carefully! She is a bit of a firecracker so he needs to keep her on side. No point in riling her up or she would be liable to blurt anything out." "What about Selena getting job in Raw?" "Eh . . . that would need a lot of deep breaths!" "Pavel is away at the moment but will be back soon; where is Geoff and Pavel's relationship at the moment?" "I think it is the best it has ever been, they have been through so much. I think Geoff is much soppier and cuddlier and it's just great! I think this is the first season where there hasn't been some sort of pill-popping, crisis or bashing - everything is going along just nicely." "Will it remain that way for the rest of the series?" "We'll have to see!" "Can you sum up what life is like for Geoff in the second half of this season?" "It's manipulation, gently trying to engineer the situation with Selena, especially when Pavel comes back. He needs to keep certain information from Pavel and make sure any information that he does get comes across in the right way. He also starts to really think about his future with Pavel and whether they are going to stay in Raw or move somewhere else. It is an exciting time and I think they are ready to take the next step in their relationship." "For you personally, is Raw something you would like to have in your future?" "I don't know yet. You will see when you see the ending that it is interesting. It feels like a beautiful journey that is kind of about done now, but then another part of me really cherishes everything about the show and Ireland as well. So it is a tricky decision to make, because I have such a good time!" It sounds like Geoff and Pavel might both be leaving next season . Oh well, if they're both gone, at least they're together. Who knows, the show might end this year. I really want Pavel back; I haven't seen him and Geoff interact in almost a year and I really miss them .
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Post by sorriso on Jan 25, 2012 12:55:10 GMT -5
I think, either Pavel wants to go back home and open a restaurant there with Geoff, or they open a new restaurant in Dublin/Ireland: He also starts to really think about his future with Pavel and whether they are going to stay in Raw or move somewhere else. It is an exciting time and I think they are ready to take the next step in their relationship. And: I think, they're leaving, but I could be really wrong!! (I certainly hope so!!) Let's cross our fingers, that they marry and stay in Dublin for the time being I miss Pavel!! I hope he comes back really soon! It will be interesting, how Geoff tries to keep secrets from Pavel, that Selena tries to feed him... Oh, that's gonna be fun for us to watch, I'm sure of it ;D
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Post by rosemonday on Jan 25, 2012 13:02:23 GMT -5
Same here finaldestination01- I'd be sad for Geoff & Pavel to leave, but at the same time I'd rather (as I've said before) they ended it on a high note than be obliged (for the sake of drama) to put them through the wringer yet again, if there is another series. This season, imho, the writers had two options with this couple. They either had to split them up for good (which would be awful, and do a grave misservice to the characters and their relationship as it has now been established. Geoff especially - I firmly believe Pavel is the love of his life and they've already shown how utterly lost he is without him.) Or - as now seems more likely, seeing as they can't just stand still either - they'll "take it to the next level"! Yay! I can see thm moving to Aussie or maybe the Czech Republic ( depending on Pavel's family situation) and it does sound like they might tie the knot! Okay, they had to throw the Selena curve-ball in for a bit of drama, but I'm getting an overall positive feeling from what Damon said. Plus, maybe the timing of this interview means the return of Pavel is imminent!
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Post by elomelo on Jan 25, 2012 14:59:41 GMT -5
Aw, Damon is so sweet and lovely in his interview -- I love how much thought he's given his character. There's a fondness there and it shows how much work he puts into playing the part of the Geoff we all know and love. While it's sad to think of Geoff and Pavel leaving the show, I agree that it's best that the end on a high note. I'm assuming that if Pavel is visiting home, his relationship with his family has or will improve drastically and might be the deal-maker in getting hitched (not that I think Pavel needs his family's approval to get married but their blessing would make it that much better). I just hope we get an on-screen wedding and a great send-off, not just subtle implications and fade-to-blacks. If they were to open a restaurant together, it'd be so great. Geoff has always dreamed of having his own place, run according his rules, and Pavel would make a great partner with his experience in management (and keeping Geoff balanced). rosemonday, I agree! Pavel's return seems very close at hand and I hope they feature him in this ep. I'm being an optimist and thinking they didn't show him in the preview clip so as to build the suspense and make it a surprise.
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Post by wallywa617 on Jan 25, 2012 16:05:37 GMT -5
ok i don't want to step on anyone's dreams and maybe i'm a pessimist, but i'm starting to worry Pavel's life changing offer isn't marriage but a move. Maybe he wants Geoff to move back to the Czech republic with him or somewhere else.
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Post by rosemonday on Jan 25, 2012 17:10:28 GMT -5
That's fine by me...as long as they're happy and together! Anyway, I'm still slightly concerned that Geoff might already be married - to Selena! (For residency purposes I mean -- nothing else!) Anyway, whatever this secret is, he'd better hurry up and tell Pavel straight away - or Selena sure as hell will!!
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Post by moonstruck-me on Jan 25, 2012 17:17:41 GMT -5
ok i don't want to step on anyone's dreams and maybe i'm a pessimist, but i'm starting to worry Pavel's life changing offer isn't marriage but a move. Maybe he wants Geoff to move back to the Czech republic with him or somewhere else. And I'm sorry to say, I think you might be right. This is what Anthony L. wrote about Raw in his column today: "And I’ve since learned that the actor who plays Pavel was unavailable to appear in all of the shows this year, nor will he appear in future seasons if the show continues."So this could be the end of Geoff & Pavel...
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Post by elomelo on Jan 26, 2012 1:05:20 GMT -5
I'm going to be an idealist and hold out for a wedding but you're probably right wallywa617. Ah, as long as they're together, that's what's important. Though I am curious to see if Selina is married to Geoff and the fallout with that situation. Only three more eps for all that to unfold, I'm nervous but excited.
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Post by tubedout on Jan 26, 2012 2:06:16 GMT -5
I agree, it's looking increasingly likely this season will be the last for both characters (thanks for posting that interview, rosemonday, and that quote, nanii!).
Honestly, I'm sad, because I love this pairing. But I'm fine with the high note they are leaving on. As long as they leave together and in love. I don't care about married - a marriage proposal isn't a requirement for a happy ending in romantic movies and shows, after all. Just that the couple be together and in love.
I have enjoyed this couple and show through all the seasons, including this Pavel-less one. Nothing will ever beat the first season for me, both in terms of Geoff&Pavel and all the other characters, because, frankly, the edgy RTE2 was much more fun to watch. Heck, maybe I'd actually like Kate if she and Shane could steam up the screen and show me what the heck he sees in her, lol! But I've enjoyed watching Geoff do exactly what he told Selena to do - grow up. He got his life in order, he found professional success and fulfillment, and romantic love and partnership. I have found it delightful to watch him grow on our screens, and will be happy so long as he and Pavel are sent off on this high note.
.... And of course, I'll continue watching Raw next season, as long as Jojo is still there!
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Post by cheerios on Jan 26, 2012 3:15:05 GMT -5
True a marriage proposal isn't instant happy, I mean look at Dylan and Jojo.
Oh I hope it's not the last season for them, but at least they would be together. It seems strange that Geoff would leave Raw when it's his baby.
I was wondering how they mention at all what happen to Dylan or Ellen after last season?
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Post by elomelo on Jan 26, 2012 13:41:48 GMT -5
cheerios, you're absolutely right, marriage doesn't ensure happiness but I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic and the idea of a happy marriage on the show would be nice. Hmm, leaving Raw is a huge step -- which might allude to the life-changing offer Pavel makes -- but maybe Geoff wants to start his own restaurant on his own terms as he's always dreamed, now that he has a solid name and reputation as chef. Though Geoff and Fiona have completely changed the place (for the better), Raw was Mal or rather Tanya's dream project so maybe Geoff (and Pavel) want to start something new for themselves.
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Post by tubedout on Jan 26, 2012 15:03:55 GMT -5
Oh I hope it's not the last season for them, but at least they would be together. It seems strange that Geoff would leave Raw when it's his baby. I was wondering how they mention at all what happen to Dylan or Ellen after last season? Ha - I had totally forgotten about Ellen! I don't even remember how things ended for her last season. Did she leave town? Idk. I'll have to go back and check. As for Dylan, the only mentions have been a few from Jojo, including one phone call from Dylan. He's basically cut off contact with her, moved away, and is selling their house. I REALLY hoped he would make a reappearance this season, but it doesn't look like that's the way it is going. For all the complaints about Geoff not having Pavel around, poor Jojo lost both her boys - Bobby and Dylan - this year. As for leaving Raw - I agree, Geoff is so proud of that restaurant. But that's part of being a great chef - going on to start new ventures. Geoff found the success and recognition he was looking for at Raw. He should be ready now to try his hand at starting something new. After all, that was Tanya's dream for Mal - that he create more successful restaurants. But that wasn't his dream. It was Geoff's.
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Post by dalphine on Jan 26, 2012 16:50:58 GMT -5
Could some one tell me what happen with the affection they were able to show in the first season. Then all of sudden they didn't want to show a kiss in last season esp.
Geoff could always start dating again since the actor that played Pavel want be able to do next season if theres one. I liked the pairing but I also would like the show to come back.
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Post by elomelo on Jan 26, 2012 17:22:01 GMT -5
dalphine: Season 1 was broadcast on RTE 2, which is a less mainstream channel and allowed for more "explicit" and racy material. When the show was moved to RTE 1, season 2 and onwards became much tamer, especially in the depiction of physical affection between Geoff and Pavel (I'm not sure about the other couples as I can only watch this particular storyline but I hear things are much tamer for everyone else as well). Sadly, I think the show wants to appeal the widest demographic possible and cut away on such things as what should have been a great kiss at the end of season 3 (Geoff had just told Pavel that he loved him and always had, and it was such a brave move that the quick shot of the back of his heat seemed cheap and did a disservice, in my opinion, to the characters and their relationship). So yeah, I'm right there with you - as are many others I'm sure - in being frustrated with the lack of affection shown between them.
I love Pavel and Geoff together, and seriously doubt the writers will break them off for the sake of keeping Geoff in the show to date again (and Damon Gameau's interviews have hinted at the characters leaving the show together).
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Post by cheerios on Jan 27, 2012 2:44:23 GMT -5
As much as Geoff loves Raw and working with Fiona, I believe he loves Pavel more. And I can see them moving on to something new. As they move into a new future together perhaps as husbands? I hope Selena doesn't leave a bad taste in Geoff's mouth when he thinks of Raw. It's his baby and he should leave on a good note.
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Post by rosemonday on Jan 27, 2012 18:48:37 GMT -5
"hey guys! I think I'm gonna disappoint you.... i live in czech republic and this week there is a huge interview with kryštof in our tv magazine. kryštof says that he got bored by shooting this show. but he also says he shooted it for four years so i think that means he's gonna show up this season but it's probably the last time...."
- zancagold
This is a comment on TubedOut's episode 404 preview - confirms everything we've already suspected. Makes it so much more important to have a happy ending now! I think we will...
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Post by cheerios on Jan 29, 2012 0:13:25 GMT -5
Oh I hate when shows do that, they take a really great couple that everyone loves and they leave them on a bad note when the show either is cancel or the actor leaves the show.
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Post by Isabella on Jan 29, 2012 0:54:27 GMT -5
Oh I hate when shows do that, they take a really great couple that everyone loves and they leave them on a bad note when the show either is cancel or the actor leaves the show. Exactly. When the actor is leaving, they always have the couple have a huge falling out, or worse, kill the character off. I hope they don't do that with Geoff and Pavel. Since Pavel is obviously leaving, I think Geoff might follow. They've been through too much as a couple and have too many fans for the writers to split them up.
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Post by rosemonday on Jan 29, 2012 2:05:19 GMT -5
They've been through too much as a couple and have too many fans for the writers to split them up. Exactly, Isabella! They're the only couple to have made it through four series (with all their ups and downs!) and remained together. I don't think the writers will change that now.
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