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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 28, 2008 17:40:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the input folks, and so sorry to have derailed this thread. But just a final note, if Gregor or any other character have scenes that impact or affect the Oliver & Christian story it will be subtitled, but if they are doing thngs that have nothing to do with Oliver and Christian and do not affect the boys' storyline, we won't be subbing them.
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 28, 2008 17:47:34 GMT -5
Personally, I find this solution perfect. Ivan shares the scenes so people who like looking at Gregor can look at him being pretty, but I see no deeper reason to subtitle if it doesn't lead back to Ollian.
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Post by amber80 on Jul 28, 2008 17:52:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm gonna be the bad guy here, or more likely on Youtube... ;D Nanna, and then myself, signed on to Subtitle/Americanize the Oliver and Christian story, not the Verbotene Liebe soap opera, and it's starting to get a little out of hand and is becoming something we dread sometimes as opposed to something nice to do. So I encouraged Nanna to get back to the original intent of just subbing Oliver and Christian stuff. All bricks and stones should be thrown at me. I'm not gonna trow anything! I think it's a very wise decision!! It should be a bit of fun: not an obligation!! You're all doing so much already... I had to laugh at this one... ;D Thanks for the video and caps again Ivan!!
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Post by Torrid German Love on Jul 28, 2008 17:56:40 GMT -5
Oh, sorry, Torrid German Love, I didn't see your post before I posted mine, and I don't agree with you at all! I love seeing the sub-titled clips as soon as possible, and if Nanna and Tihkon find it a chore to translate the non-Ollian bits, I'm very happy that they don't do it. I'm only here for the Ollian bits. It seems as if there are other places people can watch the extra Gregor/whoever storylines. Just my two cents worth. ETA: Sorry, I would rather have nothing than watch these two. It isn't just doing subs for Grecca that I'm talking about. Nanna does this day in, day out, and only some one who has attempted it knows how exhausting it is. I'd much rather Nanna did subs at a slower pace, and still keep her sanity and health. If it means our waiting a while longer, then so be it. It's great that you're happy to watch nothing when there's no Chrolli; however, this sentiment is not shared by the 3000+ viewers Nanna has. That's also the reason why Ivan started including Gregor. I'm happy to help Nanna out in any way I can, but still hope secretly that she does do subs for Grecca (that way I don't need to do it! ;D) Nanna, do what you think is best. If you want to focus on Chrolli, then do so by all means. Just take your time, and don't exhaust yourself. We will all just have to be patient and wait that little bit longer.
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Post by sheepiefarm on Jul 28, 2008 18:06:51 GMT -5
Right behind you Tihkon & Nanna - especially if there are flying bricks around ;D
Gregor does nothing for me and I'm happy to only see him in Ollian scenes. There has to be a line drawn somewhere and it's easy to get carried along by the tide and feel pressured to put up an episode to appease the baying masses - BUT IT SHOULD NEVER BE A CHORE. There are plenty of people on this forum who give recaps of other storylines to keep us informed of peripheral stories. Anyone who complains can do something for themselves and learn the german language so that they can follow the soap.
~jumps off soapbox and trots back to field~
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Post by flippa on Jul 28, 2008 18:07:52 GMT -5
Hello lovely people! I thought I should delurk briefly as I feel a bit guilty... I was one of the people that asked Ivan to add the Gregor story as yes, I do find him very pretty to look at... but honestly I NEVER meant Nanna or anyone to have to start subbing his story too! I'm more than happy to just pick up the "gist" through my basic German and, well, let's face it- the actions are usually pretty obvious! Although I do love the exchanges between Christian and Gregor as I think they have a great brother dynamic.
I also really appreciate the speed that subs and episodes come up- but I don't want people to feel under pressure and not enjoy it- that's just horrid. I for one am more than happy to wait longer! I'm just grateful that Tikhon, Ivan and Nanna are doing something so helpful. Thanks!
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Post by gabriel78 on Jul 28, 2008 18:14:42 GMT -5
My own thoughts are similar to many others - I came here for Ollian. That's all I'm personally interested in. I like some Gregor stories too, because in some way they relate to Ollian. But, do I need Gregor/Rebecca? No. I can do without that.
I'm beyond grateful for the team that pitches in, records the show, subtitles it, and uploads it for us non-German folk to enjoy the story as well. It is a purely volunteer effort, and one that you do out of love and care, and I simply could not ask any more of you. I couldn't even ask that much of you, and to have you step up to the plate like that - wow.
I'm going to have to get addresses from y'all. I need to send gifts of gratitude.
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Post by restenergy on Jul 28, 2008 18:14:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the input folks, and so sorry to have derailed this thread. But just a final note, if Gregor or any other character have scenes that impact or affect the Oliver & Christian story it will be subtitled, but if they are doing thngs that have nothing to do with Oliver and Christian and do not affect the boys' storyline, we won't be subbing them. As Sweeney Todd says to Mrs. Lovett, "What a charming notion, Eminently practical and yet Appropriate as always."
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Post by aldebaran on Jul 28, 2008 18:31:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the input folks, and so sorry to have derailed this thread. But just a final note, if Gregor or any other character have scenes that impact or affect the Oliver & Christian story it will be subtitled, but if they are doing thngs that have nothing to do with Oliver and Christian and do not affect the boys' storyline, we won't be subbing them. I can't but agree 100% to what you said. It isn't just doing subs for Grecca that I'm talking about. Nanna does this day in, day out, and only some one who has attempted it knows how exhausting it is. I'd much rather Nanna did subs at a slower pace, and still keep her sanity and health. If it means our waiting a while longer, then so be it. I can say to be one of them, so I totally understand Nanna and the great job she always does to subtitle the episodes of this wonderful story. I really wouldn't ask her (and Tihkon) for more.
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Post by aussie54 on Jul 28, 2008 18:43:45 GMT -5
From Torrid German Love Oh, I absolutely agree that if Nanna is finding it a chore, then she should slow down. But my impression is that it's only a chore translating the non-Ollian bits. In that case, I'm quite happy for those bits to be left out.
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Post by psionycx on Jul 28, 2008 19:08:24 GMT -5
Nanna, you needn't feel any guilt here. Ivan is very thorough with the captures we see, but I'm not sure it really matters to all of us very much if you sub Gregor and Rebecca as they do their couple development. I love looking at Gregor, but lately most of his dialogue makes me want to smack him anyway (at least when it involves Rebecca) so it's not a big deal.
We all greatly appreciate what you and Ivan and Tihkon do for us! Thank you!
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Post by nanna on Jul 28, 2008 19:16:19 GMT -5
I think the people on this board are just wonderful, so consider all of you to be kissed! I've just finished the clip and I included the Olivia/Lars/Carla conversation because it was short and I thought it was very funny.
Subbing Ollian is definitely no chore at all. I love doing that.
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Post by amber80 on Jul 28, 2008 19:18:54 GMT -5
Lots of kisses back! Thank you!!
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Post by eldanesh on Jul 28, 2008 20:00:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the input folks, and so sorry to have derailed this thread. But just a final note, if Gregor or any other character have scenes that impact or affect the Oliver & Christian story it will be subtitled, but if they are doing thngs that have nothing to do with Oliver and Christian and do not affect the boys' storyline, we won't be subbing them. As Sweeney Todd says to Mrs. Lovett, "What a charming notion, Eminently practical and yet Appropriate as always." and don't forget right afterwards, "how i've lived without you all these years i'll never know!" nanna you do whatever you feel you have to!
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 28, 2008 20:01:01 GMT -5
Aside from the fact that Gregor/Rebecca is sexual chemistry-free, it's not really relevant to Christian & Oliver's story at this time unless they start double dating. If ever there is subbed clip that is solely Gregor & Rebecca on here - and one can only hope it's actually exciting or has sexual chemistry if it does show up - it would be a bonus and not a usual thing. Not that I am still bitter they won't put the red shirt on Gregor and it's been over two months since he's had it on. Nanna already does a lot with subbing Christian & Oliver and her efforts are greatly appreciated. If we love her and all that she does along with Ivan and Tihkon to provide us with the clips, we shouldn't want her to sub Gregor/Rebecca. At least not as it is now. So I hope this settles things about the subbing and we can now return to talking about today's entertaining episode.
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Post by Princess Ollian on Jul 28, 2008 20:03:23 GMT -5
Aside from the fact that Gregor/Rebecca is sexual chemistry-free, it's not really relevant to Christian & Oliver's story at this time unless they start double dating. If ever there is subbed clip that is solely Gregor & Rebecca on here - and one can only hope it's actually exciting or has sexual chemistry if it does show up - it would be a bonus and not a usual thing. Not that I am still bitter they won't put the red shirt on Gregor and it's been over two months since he's had it on. Nanna already does a lot with subbing Christian & Oliver and her efforts are greatly appreciated. If we love her and all that she does along with Ivan and Tihkon to provide us with the clips, we shouldn't want her to sub Gregor/Rebecca. At least not as it is now. So I hope this settles things about the subbing and we can now return to talking about today's entertaining episode. I was gonna say that... *sulks*
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Post by ornaru86 on Jul 28, 2008 20:44:56 GMT -5
I love wathcing Olli and Christian, but i can live without knowing wats going on with Gregor.
Though i have to say, he was on fire today...
...I mean that literally...is it just me, or was Gregor's pant's leg on fire at the end of the second clip???
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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 28, 2008 20:58:31 GMT -5
Here is today's English subtitled version of today's episode.
Thanks Nanna!
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Post by psionycx on Jul 28, 2008 21:20:49 GMT -5
Though i have to say, he was on fire today... ...I mean that literally...is it just me, or was Gregor's pant's leg on fire at the end of the second clip??? Well, I've always said that Gregor was smoking hot (even without the red shirt). Today he just finally ignited from the look of it.
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Post by psionycx on Jul 28, 2008 21:40:05 GMT -5
I have to say it's so nice to see Olivia get some strict discipline from Lars, Carla and Olli. Now, I don't believe for a second she's really going to end up paying all that money in perpetuity. But it was really good to see her learn that when one of her ill-considered plots backfires it can do so in a bad way. Also, it's good to see Olli stop being her doormat. The irony is that he probably would have helped smooth things over if she hadn't threatened to out Christian.
Speaking of Christian, his amusement at Gregor's sudden interest in the outdoors was really funny. As was his amusement at ongoing denial of being romantically interested in Rebecca. If anyone understands having a crush on someone and trying to cover it up it's our boy Christian.
But my God the drama in the flatshare today! For a moment I thought this was Lifetime. Christian probably wishes he'd just kept going when he started crossing the living room. I just hope he draws the line at refereeing catfights because this could get ugly.
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Post by iclickmyheels on Jul 28, 2008 21:53:04 GMT -5
i honestly thought that the moment when olli mouths across the room to christian that everything is going to be okay was so... touching. my heart just broke for them.
gahh. these boys are giving me cavities!
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Post by jsg03jd on Jul 28, 2008 22:35:58 GMT -5
Thanks, team for another excellent job!
Mein Gott -- that Lydia and Judith... such Drama Queens! They're thisclose to dethroning Christian!
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Post by floatilla on Jul 29, 2008 0:12:13 GMT -5
Subbing Ollian is definitely no chore at all. I love doing that. Thanks alot Nanna. We love that you do this. muaaah!!!
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Post by aussie54 on Jul 29, 2008 0:34:24 GMT -5
Iclickmyheels I thought that was sweet as well. And I loved the glare of death that Olli gives Olivia. Gosh, is that man hot .... Thank you for the sub-titled clip, Nanna and Tihkon!
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Post by christianandoliver on Jul 29, 2008 4:10:49 GMT -5
Olli was pretty hot today, wasn't he? Best pictures of him IMO: I find the Grebecca story a bit boring, I'm sorry, maybe most of you disagree with me, but it's my opinion. yeah he did look hot. and don't worry about grebecca, i think it's boring two.
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