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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:16:34 GMT -5
And, yes, it's overwhelmingly likely that Gregor would have 'surmised' by now . . . however, it's also so that at this point, C&O should simply tell him--the time is over-ripe. (I mean, tell him in private, not at the boxing gym!)
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 15:20:24 GMT -5
Yes, he is.
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 15:21:54 GMT -5
Gregor probably won't be that surprised and all those things will just fall in place. It would be just funny if he said "So you were shagging when I walked on you half naked in the kitchen" ;D
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 15:24:08 GMT -5
Yes, he is. He even has something resembling screentime at the end where he covers for Sebastian when Seb doesn't want to talk to his girlfriend Maybe he has a secret affair with Angelo from Schneiders
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:29:21 GMT -5
Yes, and especially if you consider that 'suspicion' in contrast to C&O's interaction the last time G saw them (the argument after the Rick altercation) . . . this sort of emotional roller coaster is not the usual roommate relationship.
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:35:09 GMT -5
Sorta like Upstairs / Downstairs?
Am I the only one thinks Justus is kinda cute, sexy? (Just first, brief impression, mind you!)
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 15:36:14 GMT -5
Yes, and especially if you consider that 'suspicion' in contrast to C&O's interaction the last time G saw them (the argument after the Rick altercation) . . . this sort of emotional roller coaster is not the usual roommate relationship. I'd like to think so, that it's fairly obvious, but I think in Gregor's mind he would never consciously think of his brother with another man but on some sub-conscious level he's accepted that Olli & Christian are very, very close. He just needs to connect the two levels. At this point, Gregor is so wrapped up in his pain and trying to absolve it with his dick, that all the blood has rushed and stayed there. *sigh* But I do sometimes laugh that everyone treats and remarks that Christian & Olli are like an old married couple but then don't seem to think anything of it... even those who don't know or didn't know when they made those type of comments (like Olivia before the bed discovery).
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 15:38:33 GMT -5
Sorta like Upstairs / Downstairs? Am I the only one thinks Justus is kinda cute, sexy? (Just first, brief impression, mind you!) I was shocked to see that he sorta is once you aren't distracted by that butler uniform he is normally wearing. That said, I think it's unlikely that he would be the one to come between Christian and Olli if anybody ever does.
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:44:05 GMT -5
Well, yes, and Olivia, of all people, should have figured it out ahead of the 'bed discovery'. After all, no one else is as insightful when it comes to ferreting out other people's private business, and also, and principally, she's the one who'd been privy to Olli's on-going terrific angst about his relationship with C . . . and then all of a sudden it disappeared! (the angst, I mean)
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 15:48:58 GMT -5
Also Charlie, she said that Ollie is just too depressed because nothing is happening with Christian and suddenly he's late to work instead and not that depressed at all. But then, all those people have other problems than prying into other people's private life, I guess.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 15:49:07 GMT -5
On the other hand... Olivia is also the most self-centered person in the universe ;D
(and completely immune to sarcasm)
I gotta agree though. Really more people should be guessing. Charlie would actually be my top pick who should have tried to quizz Olli for more.
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:52:01 GMT -5
And Justus DOES ping my gaydar.
However, Lola, you're very very very probably right that he won't be the one!
And, of course, as you know, I personally hope it's not anyone--or anything--ever--that comes between them . . . so the program can just be renamed "Ewige Liebe"!
(Have I convinced you yet to go along with this?)
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 16:05:34 GMT -5
Normally it's family and friends who would ask Do you have a g/f? Are you getting married? But Christian's friends are Olli and Judith and that's it. Gregor is just too busy with his own dick to really pay attention. Olivia knows now, Charlie does not see Olli down anymore and that's enough for her I guess.
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 16:21:08 GMT -5
Normally it's family and friends who would ask Do you have a g/f? Are you getting married? But Christian's friends are Olli and Judith and that's it. Gregor is just too busy with his own dick to really pay attention. Olivia knows now, Charlie does not see Olli down anymore and that's enough for her I guess. Yes, or we can just grant that such are inevitable writers' oversights. Meanwhile, I notice that Lola is fast approaching that astonishing milestone of 1000 posts. If I continue bothering/encouraging at this rate, it could happen even yet tonight! Will you be feted in some fashion for this, Lola? And in the matter of bothering / imposing, Ivan & Lola, re the German translation question I asked you on the "German for Soaplovers" thread: I supplied two 'contexts' and really would appreciate if you could respond once more in relation to these specifically. Normally I wouldn't be so persistent (do you believe me?), but my need is critical. Thanks everso!
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 16:45:22 GMT -5
And Justus DOES ping my gaydar. Mine too: very hard!! ;D
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Post by blueocean80 on May 14, 2008 17:10:59 GMT -5
Gregor probably won't be that surprised and all those things will just fall in place. It would be just funny if he said "So you were shagging when I walked on you half naked in the kitchen" ;D LOL that's pretty much what I think Gregor would to, too. He woulnd't freak out as Chris is afraid of. Or throw a tantrum. He might accept them because, well, they are close and click. He wouldn't think much of it. He'd be like "yeah, so?". Then again, that's only me speculating. Can't wait to see how it'll really go.
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Post by aldebaran on May 14, 2008 17:17:39 GMT -5
Meaning that if Christian were to go back to a girl after Olli he would be more straight than gay to me. If he let's say, started hitting on Constantin then I would buy him as gay. That would be the only reason for me to keep watching VL after a possible O&C break-up! ;D But the authors should find a convincing storyline for MY Olli, or I'd switch off my Mac. Yeah, lola, you're reaching 1000 posts! Then you'll win a prize. You can choose among Thore, Jo and Andreas for a romantic dinner in a very chic Cologne's restaurant. Only one of them! Hard choice I guess! ;D
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Post by blueocean80 on May 14, 2008 17:23:24 GMT -5
I know this is OT, but... Lydia works for social services and was responsible for getting the kid placed with Carla (that's why Ansgar conspired against her and Sebastian. wait, wait. So Sebastian and Lydia were together and they split up because Ansgar interfered somehow? Gah, somebody explain this to me cos I have no idea who Sebastian really is. And why did Lydia say something along the lines of "I thought I knew you and look what big disaster that turned out to be" when she was moving in and Gregor was helping her. Sorry for the OTness
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Post by stuartsez on May 14, 2008 21:21:30 GMT -5
I'd like to think so, that it's fairly obvious, but I think in Gregor's mind he would never consciously think of his brother with another man but on some sub-conscious level he's accepted that Olli & Christian are very, very close. He just needs to connect the two levels. Sadly, I agree with you. I'm vastly amused by the possibility that Gregor already knows about their relationship consciously and is just teasing Christian, but he's so wrapped in his own pain right now that he's oblivious to what really going on.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 22:35:40 GMT -5
Lydia works for social services and she came to town to take the case of Ansgar's kid (among other things the mother of Ansgar's kid stole the kid and went to South America with him, came back and then Ansgar tried to kill her). Then she met Sebastian. But because Sebastian is a Lahnstein just like Ansgar social services would have taken the case away from her if they had found out about Sebastian being her boyfriend. So they had to keep their love a secret *dundundun*. There was a lot of "Should we break up? No we are so in love and can't stay away from each other! Should we keep it a secret! No, I love you and I'm suffering when we have to lie! Should I just give up the case? No, you love your job and it would cause you pain to step away from it!" arguging back and forth. Lydia's decision was to take custody away from Ansgar and the mother of the kid and to award temporary custody to Ansgar's sister Carla with minimal visitation rights. Ansgar was furious at Lydia and plotted to get revenge and to also get the case take from her in the hope that whoever replaces her is somebody he can bribe. So aside from generally planting seeds of distrust in Lydia and Seb, he sent an email from Sebastian's laptop to Social Services where he tells Lydia's boss that he and Lydia are a couple. The boss called Lydia in and threatened to fire her. Lydia was beside herself (zomg! She loves Ansgar's kid so much!) particularly since Sebastian had promised her that he wouldn't do anything. Sebastian was distraught because she didn't believe him. Then Lydia dumped Sebastian out of anger because, as the show never fails to tell us roughly every 5 minutes, she has trust issues because her mom left her family when she was a little girl. So Sebastian was disappointed, got drunk, yelled at Lydia's mom (who is a cook at Lahnstein castle) that it was all her fault, Lydia's mom yelled at him that it was all his fault and because it's a soap they then immediately had sex. After that Sebastian was so overwrought with guilt that he pushed Lydia (who by this time wanted to apologize) away. He changed his mind on the subject roughly a million times (giving her mixed messages). Eventually he decided that!their!love!could!not!be! and dumped her really cruelly, along the lines of I never loved you, I was just trying to get you into bed, all those times when you said you loved me I was secretly laughing behind your back and your hair is stupidEver since Lydia is convinced that Sebastian is just an evil no good liar. It should also be noted that Lydia's grandfather Arno hates all Lahnsteins and was constantly drowning on about they are all evil and all liars etc. So she's kinda influenced in this regard. I would lie if I said that I hadn't spent certain copious amounts of time picturing the scenario. You know, if Judith doesn't want him... ;D As for my 1000th post. I kinda want to save it for something special. (preferably something like "OMG, best Ollian kiss/sex/handholding scene to date!!!"). But will I be able to hold out till beginning of June? Congrats Nanna for hitting the Top 30 on the most subscribed of all time channel list (Germany).
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 22:43:35 GMT -5
Why does Sebastian always look constipated?
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Post by nanna on May 15, 2008 3:21:49 GMT -5
You got to meet the mother of Ansgar's kid in the 9.5. and 13.6 videos. She's the blond ice-queen who's been feeding Sarahs cocaine addiction so that she would model for her. I may not like Lydia but taking the kid away from a mother like that was a very good thing to do.
Sebastian got an over-dose of Weltschmerz. It's a very German thing. There must be a reason why the rest of the world thinks we're humorless, perfectionist workaholics.
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Post by amber80 on May 15, 2008 5:37:22 GMT -5
Sebastian got an over-dose of Weltschmerz. That is a really good description!
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Post by blueocean80 on May 15, 2008 7:36:16 GMT -5
Wow, lolaruns, a complete recap with pics! You SO rock! Thank you so much, now the picture is much, much clearer. BTW, you're getting Karma points. You SO earned them Well, that's soap opera's drama for you *g* I must admit, though, that Seb sleeping with Lydia's mother was a low blow. Poor Lydia. I kinda like Lydia/Gregor, though. Guess we'll see Sebastian more and more now that L is living with Olli and Chris. Bad thing? Y/N? Thanks, Nanna, I already noticed the blonde ice queen. I just didn't know who she was. aldebaran, nah, he won't. The way the writers portrayed him, he should be one of the most promising athlets ever. And anyways, even if he did get his nose broken, Olli -and we- would love him all the same
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