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Post by stuartsez on May 14, 2008 2:03:01 GMT -5
OK - they were stretching the "we're whispering and nobody else can hear us" thing a bit, weren't they? That was actually kind of painful to watch - Olli was so determined to put Christian's career needs ahead of their relationship needs. I'm glad they got to make up in the same episode.
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Post by nana29 on May 14, 2008 3:25:10 GMT -5
OK - they were stretching the "we're whispering and nobody else can hear us" thing a bit, weren't they? That was actually kind of painful to watch - Olli was so determined to put Christian's career needs ahead of their relationship needs. I'm glad they got to make up in the same episode. i was just thinking the same thing, I'm like is Olli suppose to be whispering...lol ;D
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Post by divinewinds on May 14, 2008 4:08:47 GMT -5
lol how does someone look german? or at least, how does someone look german to people from other countries? thats interesting ^^ LOL! incredibly hot and manly or womanly, as the case may be? :-) :-) i can't pinpoint it, but i'm usually good at spotting my fellow landsmen just by their general appearance :-) it's like gaydar for germans, maybe? :-) Hee hee hee hee! Well, I always thought germans had eye brows closer to their really sharp and adorable eyes... (for men) light hair (not exactly blonde, but not Olli-dark either), fair skin, nice nose with a wonderful nose bridge... yeah. I have a girl friend who's German so it's different for girls, I guess. (she's uber hot. I'd date her if I was straight... and living in Germany) And Christian's voice when he's angry.. It just (sorry, I shouldn't be labeling or stereotyping, but just for discussion, since steffe asked) like the Germans I used to watch in the mid 19th century. And his shot in that boxing picture... hee hee hee hee! very german..... And yes, Wolfi is right, very hotttttt! *tssssss* smokin'! OK - they were stretching the "we're whispering and nobody else can hear us" thing a bit, weren't they? That was actually kind of painful to watch - Olli was so determined to put Christian's career needs ahead of their relationship needs. I'm glad they got to make up in the same episode. I sooooooo agree! If they waited for the next 2 weeks, I would be going crazy! Ahahahha! I really understand Olli... I guess in that sense we're the same. But I know how Christian feels too... it's soooooo hard to have to hide your love and more so your relationship with the one you really, really love
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 5:23:14 GMT -5
OK - they were stretching the "we're whispering and nobody else can hear us" thing a bit, weren't they? That was actually kind of painful to watch - Olli was so determined to put Christian's career needs ahead of their relationship needs. I'm glad they got to make up in the same episode. It shows how much they love each other, Christian just couldn't be angry with him. Olli was really afraid that he screwed up this time, but Christian was always very empathetic and intelligent to realise quickly why Olli did that. As for the hall echoing with Olli's "that we are together", that's what soaps do, we'd better get used to it ;D
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Post by nanna on May 14, 2008 7:10:51 GMT -5
Christian gets angry really fast ("I never freak out" is my favorite joke ever) but he's also able to calm down again and see the other person's perspective and to apologize for his behaviour. He's really very much in love with Olli. Oh, the dimples! As for the stage whispers: What are the actors supposed to do? Really whisper, so that we wouldn't understand them? The episode on sendspace: www.sendspace.com/file/muzbob
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Post by aldebaran on May 14, 2008 7:26:56 GMT -5
There's something I still can't understand. While Olli was telling the promoter that Chris would have preferred to train with his brother, Chris just stood there speechless! Why didn't he try to say something? Later both Gregor and Wolle kept saying that they couldn't understand why he had behaved that way, but in the end he didn't say anything at all! Nobody thought about asking Olli for explanations. Soap mysteries...
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 8:25:32 GMT -5
There's something I still can't understand. While Olli was telling the promoter that Chris would have preferred to train with his brother, Chris just stood there speechless! Why didn't he try to say something? Later both Gregor and Wolle kept saying that they couldn't understand why he had behaved that way, but in the end he didn't say anything at all! Nobody thought about asking Olli for explanations. Soap mysteries... I sometimes think Christian gets so worked up that he literally cannot speak. Seems to happen more when it's regarding Olli. Anyhoo, Christian did try to say something initially and Olli kept over-riding him and then Wolle went on his tirade abut how Christian was nothing and I think by that point Christian was fully in "what the hell just happened?" mode. I am amused that no one asked Olli considering they will go to him for stuff regarding Christian. It always makes me smile when Gregor more or less asks Olli to take his brother here or makes a comment about Christian or Olli as if subconsciously he already knows just how close Christian & Olli are.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 14, 2008 8:50:13 GMT -5
Oh.My.God. So much love! For some reason, when I watch a new Ollian clip I always end up speechless. /headdesk/
Anyway, the biting was adorable! I'm glad they made up in this episode.
Yeah, subconsciously. Consciously? He should get a clue. He and everyone that's around him. Should they stop and think why they all go to Olli when they don't know what's happening to Christian, they'd definaly *know* O/C are together .
BTW, thanks, guys for the clips and subs. You rock!
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 11:19:40 GMT -5
Thanks Ivan, Nanna and Tihkon for everything! The biting was adorable; when I saw it yesterday I was expecting nothing more than a little peck on the lips, so that little bite was quite a nice surprise. And the 'Drama queen!' made me grin like an idiot... ;D
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 11:29:10 GMT -5
Thanks Ivan, Nanna and Tihkon for everything! The biting was adorable; when I saw it yesterday I was expecting nothing more than a little peck on the lips, so that little bite was quite a nice surprise. And the 'Drama queen!' made me grin like an idiot... ;D Mr. Never Freaks Out is a total drama queen. I thought the bite was a nice touch. There is a real affection there that I don't remember seeing when he was with Coco though I don't doubt that he loved her. I think that what impressed me the most with yesterday is that no matter how angry with Olli Christian was, and boy was he pissed since he used Oliver, never once did Christian threaten to end things. It's like it doesn't even occur to him to end things, which is wonderful.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 11:35:38 GMT -5
I think Christian is pretty much what you would call good boyfriend material. I don't think that that is just Olli related either. After all he honestly tried to understand Coco and try to save their relationship for a long time. It's like Gregor said, in his own way Christian is true romantic and I think that he really wanted any of his relationships to work.
Though I do think that it is noteworthy that the freak out factor in his relationship with Olli is relatively low compared to how new and probably close to the trauma buttons the whole being gay thing is to Christian. I do think that the stakes really are higher in his relationship with Olli, but it speaks to Christian's personality that he tries to deal with it like he would in any other relationship.
I do want to say that while I never thought that Christian and Coco had any passion, they did seems very comfortabel with each other and just had a rather realistic/natural vibe about them (like various Coco sitting in Christian's lap scenes or just generally how they acted around each other).
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 11:36:23 GMT -5
Ha ha, it helps that he never freaks out He's very empathetic, intelligent, loyal, plus beautiful. It looks like there's no God, he has no major flaw Ollie was scared what Christian will do, he stopped him from coming out and destroyed his boxing career, too.
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 12:37:14 GMT -5
I think Christian is pretty much what you would call good boyfriend material. I don't think that that is just Olli related either. After all he honestly tried to understand Coco and try to save their relationship for a long time. It's like Gregor said, in his own way Christian is true romantic and I think that he really wanted any of his relationships to work. I think you're right. Christian is just a decent, good guy. He's honest and loyal and deep down a true romantic. A bit hot-tempered, but that's what keeps him from getting boring... (Like Olli said )
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 13:22:33 GMT -5
Quickie and slight O/T thanks to everyone who offered an opinion on the straight guy blow job scenario. I passed on that info this morning at work. I know that Coco stated that her favorite thing about Christian was his honesty but I have to say I like his loyalty characteristic a bit more. Both are nice to see in a man his age, cause, well.. let's just say that isn't all that common.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 13:27:58 GMT -5
I know that Coco stated that her favorite thing about Christian was his honesty but I have to say I like his loyalty characteristic a bit more. Both are nice to see in a man his age, cause, well.. let's just say that isn't all that common. A true old fashioned Landei/Country Bumkin at heart (well at least they way you imagine them in an idealized way as opposed to how they truly are).
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Post by divinewinds on May 14, 2008 13:58:30 GMT -5
just reading posts about how good Christian is and seeing them too... gosh, I understand why Roddieb / Rodney (did i spell that correctly?) is so into him... I think I actually might be liking Christian more than Olli now, too. Ahahaha! I don't know. (maybe both at the same level? Olli's just soooo cute. Hee hee hee hee!) Goodness! He's like the perfect boyfriend (trustworthy, loyal, caring, honest, loving, straight-turned-gay for one person and Olli is the first guy to have a taste of him)... so sad that there's very few guys like him around now... Being single for 8 years just waiting for the right guy doesn't help either. hee hee hee.............. Roddieb definitely has goooood taste! I didn't really see all of Christian's good side until recently...
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 14:01:28 GMT -5
I'm no expect on the subject at all, but I kinda get the impression that realizing your gayness later in life isn't so much the lack of realism but rather that they would stay monogamous immediately after discovering their shiny new sexuality And if they are the kind to really turn for a specific guy they are likely to really be just experimenting/are likely to return to women eventually.
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Post by aldebaran on May 14, 2008 14:12:11 GMT -5
And if they are the kind to really turn for a specific guy they are likely to really be just experimenting/are likely to return to women eventually. Yes, Chris too said that "was just an experiment" and he then knew he only fancied chicks! LOL ;D
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 14:31:18 GMT -5
And if they are the kind to really turn for a specific guy they are likely to really be just experimenting/are likely to return to women eventually. Yes, Chris too said that "was just an experiment" and he then knew he only fancied chicks! LOL ;D You know, I keep thinking, if the shows were closer to the real world rather than "True love and crazy storylines win out" world, I can't help but think that Olli would be setting himself for a huge huge heartbreak. I think in a slightly more real life setting Deniz wouldn't have started doing Vanessa but instead would have dumped Roman anyway to start screwing every piece of (gay) ass in town and party his brains out. While Christian would have given the relationship with Olli a fair shake but eventually have left him because it doesn't work for him. That said, to me soap sexuality is a straight up two out of three kind of situation. Meaning that if Christian were to go back to a girl after Olli he would be more straight than gay to me. If he let's say, started hitting on Constantin then I would buy him as gay. Same for Deniz, if the person after Vanessa was a girl I would say, okay, bisexual, if it's another guy I would say okay, Vanessa was just a denial reaction. But that's the problem with soaps. From a gay/bi clarity POV you would like to see them date more than one guy, but from a soap POV we are supposed to not want to ever see them touch anybody other than their designated partner.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 14:48:01 GMT -5
That said, to me soap sexuality is a straight up two out of three kind of situation. Meaning that if Christian were to go back to a girl after Olli he would be more straight than gay to me. If he let's say, started hitting on Constantin then I would buy him as gay. Same for Deniz, if the person after Vanessa was a girl I would say, okay, bisexual, if it's another guy I would say okay, Vanessa was just a denial reaction. I'm amused that you would still not think Deniz is straight even if he was with another girl after Vanessa. But then, I don't think any of us that watch AWZ think even remotely that Deniz is straight. I still say he is more gay than bi regardless of this Vanessa debacle. I can't even try to speculate what will cause Ollian to break up. I am just enjoying the ride right now..... much like Olli. Huzzah!
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Post by stuartsez on May 14, 2008 14:54:55 GMT -5
I am amused that no one asked Olli considering they will go to him for stuff regarding Christian. It always makes me smile when Gregor more or less asks Olli to take his brother here or makes a comment about Christian or Olli as if subconsciously he already knows just how close Christian & Olli are. You're right - I had noticed this as well, though without really thinking about it - but most everyone, and particularly Gregor, is already treating them like they're a couple. It's Olli that Gregor turns to when he wants to get his brother to do something, especially something that Christian might not want to do for him alone. We haven't seen Miriam do it yet, but after her knowing looks during the pub quiz, I don't think she'll be surprised at all.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 15:02:44 GMT -5
Seriously, who is Gregor kidding. Because the way Olli just lept on the podium was totally normal. Especially since unlike Wolle Gregor knows that Olli is err, guyfriendly.
At the very least Gregor should ask Olli since when he became Christian's personal groupie (remember, he was at the entry exam thingie too). So by now he should have surmised that Olli has a thing for Christian and be wondering why that doesn't seem to bother Christian.
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Post by gastLXXXIV on May 14, 2008 15:06:11 GMT -5
Since the PubQuiz has been mentioned--and re "threats" to C&O's relationship: I recall that I sensed a sort of 'vibe' between Olli and Justus! Or, at least, directed at Olli by Justus. Is this plausible or totally 'off-the-wall'?
I know nothing about the 'Justus' character (is that his name?) Has he been present / important in the other story lines?
Sorry, I know this is a weird idea . . .
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 15:14:58 GMT -5
Justus is the butler of the Lahnstein family. Is this him at 1.08? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u0dDieplPkAs far as obstacles, I'm still hoping that Olivia will eventually take Olli to her workplace and Olli will have to flirt with Rick while Olivia snoops around or something ;D
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Post by ivaniv on May 14, 2008 15:16:09 GMT -5
Justus is a servant at Lahnsteins' castle and behaves all the time like he had a stick up his arse, so who knows ;D He didn't really had a big part yet, he just opens a door and looks at the visitors as if they were a bunch of peasants. That's why I did not even realise who he was when he came to No Limits for the quiz...
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