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Post by mrfixit477 on Nov 9, 2020 19:25:12 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Nov 11, 2020 19:42:25 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Nov 12, 2020 19:42:24 GMT -5
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scmian
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Post by scmian on Nov 13, 2020 15:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Nov 14, 2020 8:16:07 GMT -5
I recall they were being pressured to hire openly gay actors since neither Michael (Victor) nor George (Benji) are queer. Do we know if Anthony is gay IRL? His Instagram doesn't seem to indicate that. It feels like they would be shooting themselves in the foot if he's another straight hire, considering all the grief and calls for cancellation they were getting before season 1 even premiered.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 14, 2020 9:54:24 GMT -5
Acting is pretending to be someone you are not, as simple as that.
One thing is wanting more gay actors getting roles which is a good thing and other wanting that gay characters must be played by gay actors.
That's absurd, specially on a teen show where all actors are at the beginning of their careers. Most gay actors wait some time before to come out (i heard rumours about an actor on the show but this is not a place to speculate).
In the end, being vocal on twitter means very little in real life. You need the right actors for a show, actors with good chemistry. It'll be great if they'll hire gay actors (for playing gay or straight roles) but in the end that doesn't mean a thing to make a show successful. Of course on a show like this it would send a possitive message
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Post by justinate on Nov 14, 2020 11:44:06 GMT -5
Acting is pretending to be someone you are not, as simple as that. One thing is wanting more gay actors getting roles which is a good thing and other wanting that gay characters must be played by gay actors. That's absurd, specially on a teen show where all actors are at the beginning of their careers. Most gay actors wait some time before to come out (i heard rumours about an actor on the show but this is not a place to speculate). In the end, being vocal on twitter means very little in real life. You need the right actors for a show, actors with good chemistry. It'll be great if they'll hire gay actors (for playing gay or straight roles) but in the end that doesn't mean a thing to make a show successful. Of course on a show like this it would send a possitive message Oh, I agree with you. I'm not in any way an advocate for gay roles being reserved solely for out actors, because I feel it's the start of a slippery slope that will eventually backfire on queer actors who will find themselves squeezed out of (the far more voluminous) straight and cis roles. I was just noting that there was a lot of unpleasant noise earlier this year from more militantly activist left-wingers, who wanted this show cancelled before it even debuted for positioning as its lead a cis gay "white" boy played by a straight actor, instead of a trans Black girl played by a trans actress. And the show stuck by its casting but seemed to suggest they would actively seek more diversity in future casting. So I'm just surprised that they went with two new "white" characters (not sure if either is Latinx, but I've been scolded, on this very forum, that this still counts as white). If they had sought, say, an Asian- or Native American actor, they could at least argue that they had difficulty finding someone from those communities who is both openly gay and a talented actor with chemistry with the rest of the cast. Now it seems they have just opened themselves up to more grief and noise on social media, probably amplified because they already knew about this criticism in advance of casting for the second season.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 14, 2020 14:30:57 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, i don't mind a little push to get gay actors getting the roles, because hollywood has an obvious problem with that (a couple of years ago there were like 11 actors/actress nominated to oscars for queer roles and all of them were straight).
The problem is the premise is totally wrong because acting is pretending to be someone you are not (the same way that claiming cultural appropiation when a writer writes about someone of different gender, race or sexual orientation is nothing more than censorship).
I think the strategy of trans activist is completely wrong. Wanting representation is perfectly right, but those movies need a star who makes headlines or the studios are not going to be interested and with the twitter campaigns the only thing you get is the movies not being filmed.
For a gay teen show is quite difficult to find openly gay actors, because they are young, they are starting their careers and they need to prove themselves before coming out (once you have a good reputation and showed you can play different kind of roles coming out is less dangerous for your career), so i don't think it's that easy to find young openly gay actors who are what you are looking for for a role.
Saying that, given the theme of this show it's true that not having an openly gay actor in one of the leading roles don't look good. Of course if you look at 13 reasons why cast, which has a very gay cast, most of them weren't out at the beginning of the show.
At least none of the actors seem uncomfortable playing a gay role, because that's the thing, casting directors say all the time the most suited actor gets the role but in some cases it's very very difficult to believe that.
Given that Love, Víctor will have an uphill battle in second season (i think it's quite difficult to capture the charm of first season while you go for more mature themes) they should avoid this kind of controversy. Maybe they should look on Broadway were there are way more openly gay talented young actors
Anyway, i don't think the show has a problem with race, there are three white main characters, two blacks and a good bunch of latinos. In terms of race is pretty diverse. And a white latino shouldn't be a problem, people should realize that there are latinos of all races
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 23, 2020 13:31:06 GMT -5
Well Lukas Gage zoom audition went viral. I suppose people will learn to mute their microphones before saying something innapropiate the next time. Actors really have to endure a lot of stupid people when they are looking for jobs
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Post by mrfixit477 on Nov 23, 2020 23:15:32 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Nov 24, 2020 8:54:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one who feels the whole drama is making a mountain out of a molehill? You'd think the casting director called his apartment a sh~thole and insulted his mother. Yes the director was showing his privilege but it is hardly the crime against humanity they are making it out to be.
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 24, 2020 9:41:28 GMT -5
Am I the only one who feels the whole drama is making a mountain out of a molehill? You'd think the casting director called his apartment a sh~thole and insulted his mother. Yes the director was showing his privilege but it is hardly the crime against humanity they are making it out to be. Slow news day (or the journalists are just as tired of COVID and everything else going on, so decided to play with this). The director did apologize: www.towleroad.com/2020/11/tristram-shapeero/
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 25, 2020 15:30:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one who feels the whole drama is making a mountain out of a molehill? You'd think the casting director called his apartment a sh~thole and insulted his mother. Yes the director was showing his privilege but it is hardly the crime against humanity they are making it out to be. I think it's a question of getting tired of that sh*** and actors are usually treated like crap on auditions
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Post by mrfixit477 on Nov 26, 2020 18:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 3, 2020 15:14:58 GMT -5
I don't know why, but part of me actually hope they depict Love Victor in present time with corvid-19. I am starting to get a bit tired to seeing shows basically ignore reality and live in a fantasy land where corvid19 never happened
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 4, 2020 16:52:11 GMT -5
I don't know why, but part of me actually hope they depict Love Victor in present time with corvid-19. I am starting to get a bit tired to seeing shows basically ignore reality and live in a fantasy land where corvid19 never happened We're obviously watching different shows. Basically every show I watch are doing Covid. Not in the best way, but they're all doing it in some way or another. I hate it. I'd love a break!
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Post by hfolk on Dec 4, 2020 19:22:32 GMT -5
wish Simon would make an appearance
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 7, 2020 5:27:55 GMT -5
I don't know why, but part of me actually hope they depict Love Victor in present time with corvid-19. I am starting to get a bit tired to seeing shows basically ignore reality and live in a fantasy land where corvid19 never happened We're obviously watching different shows. Basically every show I watch are doing Covid. Not in the best way, but they're all doing it in some way or another. I hate it. I'd love a break! The main shows that I seen that actually deal with covid, tend to be medical shows. Most other shows I seen try to produce the show in a way that make it seem like covid is not a thing
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 7, 2020 15:59:36 GMT -5
And it's good that way.
Introducing covid to this kind of show will be totally time consuming and i doubt dealing with covid is what most people want to watch right now (in a couple of years will be different)
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Post by dmagiclight on Dec 8, 2020 16:15:22 GMT -5
when is the new season going to start
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 9, 2020 19:41:37 GMT -5
We're obviously watching different shows. Basically every show I watch are doing Covid. Not in the best way, but they're all doing it in some way or another. I hate it. I'd love a break! The main shows that I seen that actually deal with covid, tend to be medical shows. Most other shows I seen try to produce the show in a way that make it seem like covid is not a thing Superstore, This is Us, All Rise and Shameless are doing covid too. A million little things had a news station mention the virus briefly in the background, but it's still in pre-pandemic timeline, not sure if it will actually show up. I don't watch ever show ever (but close!) so there may be more. Superstore does the best job, I think. But you're right, a lot of medical/first responder/cop shows are doing covid.
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Post by justinate on Dec 10, 2020 8:42:16 GMT -5
I don't know why, but part of me actually hope they depict Love Victor in present time with corvid-19. I am starting to get a bit tired to seeing shows basically ignore reality and live in a fantasy land where corvid19 never happened Well, I personally don't want to see Covid affect yet another part of my life. I cannot fathom why anyone would want to have everything be about Covid 24x7x365 - isn't it depressing enough that so much of our lives, including moments that should've been celebrated, have been stolen by this horrible virus? And that's even before you factor in that, by the time this show airs next summer, many Americans would have been able to access the vaccine and I would hope that renders most, if not all, of the precautions you see today obsolete.
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Post by justinate on Dec 10, 2020 8:44:21 GMT -5
when is the new season going to start I would expect them to do Pride Month (June) again, but it's uncertain because they started filming 3 months later than they did last year - in fact they finished season 1 production around this time and it took 6 months of post-production before it made it to air. Assuming similar filming and post-prod durations, the season 2 premiere may be pushed back as late as October 2021.
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Post by justinate on Dec 10, 2020 8:47:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who feels the whole drama is making a mountain out of a molehill? You'd think the casting director called his apartment a sh~thole and insulted his mother. Yes the director was showing his privilege but it is hardly the crime against humanity they are making it out to be. I think it's a question of getting tired of that sh*** and actors are usually treated like crap on auditions That's the catch - he WASN'T treated like crap. To say you're being treated like crap because someone comments that your home is small (a patronizing comment you weren't supposed to hear), and then go off on the casting director and mobilize an army of internet trolls to target him is what I would call mistreatment.
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 10, 2020 15:23:47 GMT -5
I think it's a question of getting tired of that sh*** and actors are usually treated like crap on auditions That's the catch - he WASN'T treated like crap. To say you're being treated like crap because someone comments that your home is small (a patronizing comment you weren't supposed to hear), and then go off on the casting director and mobilize an army of internet trolls to target him is what I would call mistreatment. I don't know, the fact that Emmy Rossum knew from the beginning who was the director (Lukas didn't say it at first) and share her own experiences makes me thing the guy was well known for being a douche. And the fact that he didn't say it for the actor to hear it doesn't change a thing. A different thing is if it was a good idea to share this with the world
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