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Post by Duskysoda on May 10, 2012 12:20:37 GMT -5
I don't get that sense from the interview I just watched with Scanlan.. In it he talked about his character brendan and he defined Brendan's love for Ste as being continuous BUT being chiefly about his need to control Ste and he also conceded that it was in his words 'perverse'. Who wants that future for Ste? I doubt there are any changes on the horizon for Brendan's basic character makeup and who seriously would want that? He is the one who causes drama and excitement and roadblocks to others achieving happiness and thats needed and great on a soap like Hollyoaks
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Post by vanessa on May 10, 2012 12:26:17 GMT -5
I don't get that sense from the interview I just watched with Scanlan.. In it he talked about his character brendan and he defined Brendan's love for Ste as being continuous BUT being chiefly about his need to control Ste and he also conceded that it was in his words 'perverse'. Who wants that future for Ste? I doubt there are any changes on the horizon for Brendan's basic character makeup and who seriously would want that? He is the one who causes drama and excitement and roadblocks to others achieving happiness and thats needed and great on a soap like Hollyoaks[/quote And yet the producers said that if Ste can change then so can Brendan. I agree. And he can still be bad, but learn to respect those he loves.
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Post by LadyArmand on May 10, 2012 12:58:03 GMT -5
I think that like all soaps you have to have a villian that some people in some way (for whatever reason) empathize with. For Hollyoaks that's Brendan. If any one watched American soaps (what's left of them) there is always a villian that drives the drama. On Days of Our Lives it's Stephano DiMiria, who has fallen in love, who loves his children, but whose basic personality has never changed in the nearly 30 I've been watching soap. He is a man to thrives on the manipulation and pain of others. He always has been and always will be.
Of course the producers are going to put it out there that Brendan "could" change because Ste changed. What else are they going to say to keep that little glimmer of hope alive. It is after all, just the justification some fans need to explain away why they would want someone has manipulative and violent in Ste's life. But trust and believe that is really all it boils down to.
For Brendan while he may in his "perverse" way love Ste, it's all about control. And the fact that to a degree that discomforts him he's lost a great deal of the control he once held over Ste. Now he has it finacially, but on an emotional level, he has lost a great deal of ground, even if as some have repeatedly pointed out Ste still has feeling for him.
I'm a diebetic, I still have feelings about chocolate, but I know too much of it could kill me. Just because Ste has feelings for Brendan, and will probablly always have feelings for him and to some degree will always be tempted by the allure of "fixing" Brendan, he knows that Brendan is no good for him. He knows that Brendan's love for him is toxic, that it has caused him and the people around him nothing but pain. Those few and I do me few precious highs that he's had with Brendan pale in comparison to the devastating, physically and mentally painful lows he's suffered because of Brendan. Only a masocistic fool would keep going back for more. Only someone who is utterly insane (the definition of which being doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result) would think Brendan would change even if he could, which I don't think he can. What Brendan wants to do and what he will do are two very differnt things.
Any man who is capable of arranging for his sister to get hurt and then lie in her face about it for months, isn't exactly someone who is looking to be saved.
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Post by kevvoi on May 14, 2012 19:48:09 GMT -5
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Post by vanessa on May 15, 2012 3:19:15 GMT -5
I think that like all soaps you have to have a villian that some people in some way (for whatever reason) empathize with. For Hollyoaks that's Brendan. If any one watched American soaps (what's left of them) there is always a villian that drives the drama. On Days of Our Lives it's Stephano DiMiria, who has fallen in love, who loves his children, but whose basic personality has never changed in the nearly 30 I've been watching soap. He is a man to thrives on the manipulation and pain of others. He always has been and always will be. That's your opinion and i respect that. But i just can't agree with you. Sorry. Of course the producers are going to put it out there that Brendan "could" change because Ste changed. What else are they going to say to keep that little glimmer of hope alive. It is after all, just the justification some fans need to explain away why they would want someone has manipulative and violent in Ste's life. But trust and believe that is really all it boils down to. For Brendan while he may in his "perverse" way love Ste, it's all about control. And the fact that to a degree that discomforts him he's lost a great deal of the control he once held over Ste. Now he has it finacially, but on an emotional level, he has lost a great deal of ground, even if as some have repeatedly pointed out Ste still has feeling for him. I'm a diebetic, I still have feelings about chocolate, but I know too much of it could kill me. Just because Ste has feelings for Brendan, and will probablly always have feelings for him and to some degree will always be tempted by the allure of "fixing" Brendan, he knows that Brendan is no good for him. He knows that Brendan's love for him is toxic, that it has caused him and the people around him nothing but pain. Those few and I do me few precious highs that he's had with Brendan pale in comparison to the devastating, physically and mentally painful lows he's suffered because of Brendan. Only a masocistic fool would keep going back for more. Only someone who is utterly insane (the definition of which being doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result) would think Brendan would change even if he could, which I don't think he can. What Brendan wants to do and what he will do are two very differnt things. Any man who is capable of arranging for his sister to get hurt and then lie in her face about it for months, isn't exactly someone who is looking to be saved.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 15, 2012 5:53:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Kevvoi. Every couple of years this rumor is talked about in the British soap press. When was the last British soap cancelled?
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Post by dyfouclee on May 15, 2012 10:54:37 GMT -5
I think that would have been Crossroads in 2003
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 15, 2012 15:31:56 GMT -5
I think that would have been Crossroads in 2003 Thanks for the info. Hell, here in the States we had up to 3 of our daytime soaps canceled by that year
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 16, 2012 16:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on May 17, 2012 12:13:39 GMT -5
Kieron Richardson has revealed that he is happier with the new direction of his Hollyoaks character. Richardson's alter ego Ste starts an unexpected romance with business partner Doug (PJ Brennan) later in the week on the Channel 4 teen soap www.digitalspy.com/soaps/s13/hollyoaks/news/a380498/hollyoaks-kieron-richardson-happier-with-lighter-ste-doug-plot.htmlReferring to his domestic abuse storyline with Emmett Scanlan (Brendan Brady), Richardson told the PA: "We've had quite a dark 18 months for me so I'd like to see something a bit lighter. "I think some of the stuff coming up in the next couple of months, I can't say too much, but I'm happy with the direction it's going. "Ste has no friends so it's been amazing to have PJ there, we've got this friendship and now we're business partners, and is it going to lead to something else?" Hinting that the romance may not last, Richardson added: "It's nice to have a lighter side to him and a friend if nothing else."
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Post by vanessa on May 17, 2012 12:19:53 GMT -5
Kieron Richardson has revealed that he is happier with the new direction of his Hollyoaks character. Richardson's alter ego Ste starts an unexpected romance with business partner Doug (PJ Brennan) later in the week on the Channel 4 teen soap www.digitalspy.com/soaps/s13/hollyoaks/news/a380498/hollyoaks-kieron-richardson-happier-with-lighter-ste-doug-plot.htmlReferring to his domestic abuse storyline with Emmett Scanlan (Brendan Brady), Richardson told the PA: "We've had quite a dark 18 months for me so I'd like to see something a bit lighter. "I think some of the stuff coming up in the next couple of months, I can't say too much, but I'm happy with the direction it's going. "Ste has no friends so it's been amazing to have PJ there, we've got this friendship and now we're business partners, and is it going to lead to something else?" Hinting that the romance may not last, Richardson added: "It's nice to have a lighter side to him and a friend if nothing else." I can't wait for the next Stendan scenes! I don't even care if they get back together or not! I just want them to interact! ;D
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 17, 2012 14:00:02 GMT -5
Thanks HG75 for posting the link and article. I'm glad Kieron's enjoying this "lighter" storyline.
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Post by vanessa on May 17, 2012 14:03:19 GMT -5
Kieron also loves working with Emmett! Good boy! ;D
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Post by HQ75 on May 18, 2012 20:29:44 GMT -5
We all know that each of these guys enjoys working together, it's not a contest.
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Post by scissorknot on May 19, 2012 17:55:41 GMT -5
I think that like all soaps you have to have a villian that some people in some way (for whatever reason) empathize with. For Hollyoaks that's Brendan. If any one watched American soaps (what's left of them) there is always a villian that drives the drama. On Days of Our Lives it's Stephano DiMiria, who has fallen in love, who loves his children, but whose basic personality has never changed in the nearly 30 I've been watching soap. He is a man to thrives on the manipulation and pain of others. He always has been and always will be. Of course the producers are going to put it out there that Brendan "could" change because Ste changed. What else are they going to say to keep that little glimmer of hope alive. It is after all, just the justification some fans need to explain away why they would want someone has manipulative and violent in Ste's life. But trust and believe that is really all it boils down to. For Brendan while he may in his "perverse" way love Ste, it's all about control. And the fact that to a degree that discomforts him he's lost a great deal of the control he once held over Ste. Now he has it finacially, but on an emotional level, he has lost a great deal of ground, even if as some have repeatedly pointed out Ste still has feeling for him. I'm a diebetic, I still have feelings about chocolate, but I know too much of it could kill me. Just because Ste has feelings for Brendan, and will probablly always have feelings for him and to some degree will always be tempted by the allure of "fixing" Brendan, he knows that Brendan is no good for him. He knows that Brendan's love for him is toxic, that it has caused him and the people around him nothing but pain. Those few and I do me few precious highs that he's had with Brendan pale in comparison to the devastating, physically and mentally painful lows he's suffered because of Brendan. Only a masocistic fool would keep going back for more. Only someone who is utterly insane (the definition of which being doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result) would think Brendan would change even if he could, which I don't think he can. What Brendan wants to do and what he will do are two very differnt things. Any man who is capable of arranging for his sister to get hurt and then lie in her face about it for months, isn't exactly someone who is looking to be saved. You just summed up exactly how I think about Brendan and his relationship with Ste.
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Post by kevvoi on May 25, 2012 17:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 25, 2012 21:02:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Kevvoi for posting the article and I also don't have the urge to read those complaints. Now, because it's Doug there's an issue. Please.....massive eyeroll. Again I find it really interesting that whatever Kieron and PJ say in print about this storyline, their characters and some of the response from it, they "get the stick" from the very same individuals all the time.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 28, 2012 19:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by harmonium on Jun 6, 2012 11:59:44 GMT -5
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Post by margarite6666 on Jun 15, 2012 9:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 15, 2012 10:39:00 GMT -5
Again, I love Emmett's viewpoint and he's correct. I'm not a Stendan fan at all, because I'm not holding out on hope OR interested in seeing two tortured souls. I don't see Ste as tortured. He'd made great strides in movingon after Amy and then he got caught in Brendan's web.
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Post by margarite6666 on Jun 19, 2012 16:48:45 GMT -5
George is about to get a boyfriend and it isn't Callum! www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=437772He looks very handsome. check out on Emmett Scanlan fans website iamthebabelfish: has just done a wonderful song using karaoke of someone like you as a reply by Brendan to Steven's letter. Wonderful.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 19, 2012 17:37:47 GMT -5
Yay..another gay in the village.
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Post by harmonium on Jun 20, 2012 12:32:37 GMT -5
The more the better! Hurray! Can't wait for George's storyline to kick-off again. Too bad, it's not Callum. He is so freaking cool.
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Post by kevvoi on Jul 7, 2012 10:22:44 GMT -5
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