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Post by queenmab126 on May 7, 2012 15:25:19 GMT -5
From my point of view, it was always pretty obvious that whatever storyline Ste would have had, Brendan would have been involved. I think they intend to drag this out for quite a bit and make it meaningfoul for both Ste and Doug, otherwise they would have gone for a 'already gay' guy like Noah, with few connections with other characters. But no, they went for someone known AND straight.
So no, I don't think it's gonna be a one off thing. But Brendan is obviously gonna play a pretty big role, and maybe Ste can finally assure himself Brendan's enormous influence over him is gone, because he has finally known what it's like to love someone and be loved without being afraid of receiving a punch in your face. A healthy relationship can be so much stronger than a disfunctional passion, and Ste will see that, IMO.
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 2:46:04 GMT -5
Loving the Brendan pic on the board! He looks gorgeous in that pic! ;D
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Post by ila on May 8, 2012 8:08:18 GMT -5
I don't like the Stendan versus Stug fan war. It reminds me of the Nuke/Lure one. It was horrible! I think the Stendan vs Stug fan war is quite interesting. For the little I've read online it seems that (apart from the really devoted Brendan's fans) people that liked Stendan aren't that upset about this new pairing. The fact that Doug was already in the show helped a bit, the character has already a fan base (I imagine) and it is a lot easier than bringing a new character in just for the love triangle drama (if this is what the story will be about). I myself loved Brendan and Ste but I'm intrigued about Doug, Ste and Doug provoke me the "aww, they're so cute" feeling that Brendan and Ste certainly did not.
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 8:20:04 GMT -5
I don't like the Stendan versus Stug fan war. It reminds me of the Nuke/Lure one. It was horrible! I think the Stendan vs Stug fan war is quite interesting. For the little I've read online it seems that (apart from the really devoted Brendan's fans) people that liked Stendan aren't that upset about this new pairing. The fact that Doug was already in the show helped a bit, the character has already a fan base (I imagine) and it is a lot easier than bringing a new character in just for the love triangle drama (if this is what the story will be about). I myself loved Brendan and Ste but I'm intrigued about Doug, Ste and Doug provoke me the "aww, they're so cute" feeling that Brendan and Ste certainly did not. I prefer Stendan. They're more passionate and fiery. But i like Stug. I'm curious to see where all this is going!
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Post by queenmab126 on May 8, 2012 8:55:54 GMT -5
I don't like the Stendan versus Stug fan war. It reminds me of the Nuke/Lure one. It was horrible! I think the Stendan vs Stug fan war is quite interesting. For the little I've read online it seems that (apart from the really devoted Brendan's fans) people that liked Stendan aren't that upset about this new pairing. The fact that Doug was already in the show helped a bit, the character has already a fan base (I imagine) and it is a lot easier than bringing a new character in just for the love triangle drama (if this is what the story will be about). I myself loved Brendan and Ste but I'm intrigued about Doug, Ste and Doug provoke me the "aww, they're so cute" feeling that Brendan and Ste certainly did not. Even though I truly hope Ste won't get back to Brendan because in my opinion he doesn't want to and will never change enough to be in a decent relationship with someone who isn't a punchbag, anybody would agree that right now they can't be together. No matter how passionate and exciting the couple is, no one would say they are right for each other when Brendan is still clearly very violent and angry. So I think almost everybody who still want Stendan likes Doug right now, because Ste needs a break from Brendan and Brendan needs to realize that if he doesn't change he actually is gonna lose Ste forever. That said, I really hope Doug's not gonna be just a bump in the road to Stendan...
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Post by juliamby88 on May 8, 2012 10:00:16 GMT -5
I remember the Nuke/Lure little war(what ever you wanna call it). But it seems different with Stug/Stendan. I think that most of us are just curious to see what happens. (Plus Doug and Ste seem so cute)
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Post by ila on May 8, 2012 12:16:50 GMT -5
Even though I truly hope Ste won't get back to Brendan because in my opinion he doesn't want to and will never change enough to be in a decent relationship with someone who isn't a punchbag, anybody would agree that right now they can't be together. No matter how passionate and exciting the couple is, no one would say they are right for each other when Brendan is still clearly very violent and angry. So I think almost everybody who still want Stendan likes Doug right now, because Ste needs a break from Brendan and Brendan needs to realize that if he doesn't change he actually is gonna lose Ste forever. That said, I really hope Doug's not gonna be just a bump in the road to Stendan... I agree with you, but I think that eventually the authors will want for Brendan to solve the issue of him not accepting his sexuality, everyone already knows about it and accept it (even Warren didn't change behaviour towards him despite using the secret for his own benefit), Brendan's the only one that cannot accept being in a real relationship with another man (didn't Emmett mention in an interview that Brendan would've come out?). Yet I don't see Doug as a bumb in the road to Stendan either, if this was the case they could have brought in a new character already gay. I don't see why they would've wanted to "turn" a straight character gay just for a Stendan reunion.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 8, 2012 13:18:51 GMT -5
I also don't believe that Doug will end up being a bump aka collateral damage for a Stendan Sunset. With this new Executive Producer there seems to be more thought behind the development of this storyline other than seeing Brendan manipulating Ste and whomever he happens to be dating at the time.
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 13:22:47 GMT -5
I also don't believe that Doug will end up being a bump aka collateral damage for a Stendan Sunset. With this new Executive Producer there seems to be more thought behind the development of this storyline other than seeing Brendan manipulating Ste and whomever he happens to be dating at the time. I want to see Brendan change for himself. Him and Ste should be friends.
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Post by moonstruck-me on May 8, 2012 14:46:18 GMT -5
I also don't believe that Doug will end up being a bump aka collateral damage for a Stendan Sunset. With this new Executive Producer there seems to be more thought behind the development of this storyline other than seeing Brendan manipulating Ste and whomever he happens to be dating at the time. I want to see Brendan change for himself. Him and Ste should be friends. They can't be friends...
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 14:49:38 GMT -5
I want to see Brendan change for himself. Him and Ste should be friends. They can't be friends... Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends.
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Post by moonstruck-me on May 8, 2012 14:58:28 GMT -5
Why not? They can be if they sit down and talk. What would they talk about? Brendan wants Ste all to himself and he wants them to be together, I don't think Brendan could live with them only being friends. And Ste is probably not interested in being Brendan's friend.
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 15:01:35 GMT -5
Why not? They can be if they sit down and talk. What would they talk about? Brendan wants Ste all to himself and he wants them to be together, I don't think Brendan could live with them only being friends. And Ste is probably not interested in being Brendan's friend. Brendan was starting to open up to Ste about his childhood abuse. Then he went to prison! I just think Ste could help Brendan to change.
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Post by HQ75 on May 8, 2012 15:04:05 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 15:10:53 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there I think everyone can change. Even Brendan. Ste can help him. He knows him better than everyone else.
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Post by moonstruck-me on May 8, 2012 15:12:43 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there I agree. ;D (And I guess this discussion should actually have been in another thread... )
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Post by vanessa on May 8, 2012 15:16:37 GMT -5
Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there I agree. ;D (And I guess this discussion should actually have been in another thread... ) I read it on twitter. Producer Emma hinted that Brendan was going to try and change.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 8, 2012 15:29:23 GMT -5
It should be on another thread Nanii, but things have gone wacky. : )
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Post by queenmab126 on May 8, 2012 16:00:56 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there Amen to that! Sorry for the OOT, back on track now =)
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 8, 2012 16:16:51 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there They've been dangling it for over 18 months now.....I'm glad that Ste (and the viewing audience) are getting a different sort of meat to enjoy.
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Post by Isabella on May 8, 2012 16:31:26 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there You deserve a round of applause for that one! The Ste/Amy situation is not similar to the Brendan/Ste situation at all. Ste was a messed up, angry kid, whereas, as you said, Brendan is a sociopath. There is a huge difference between someone who acts violently due to anger and someone who does it because it's their nature and they pretty much can't not be abusive. Brendan trying to change is also moot because no matter how hard he tries, he can't change. Sociopaths are depraved by nature, and there is no "cure" or treatment that could possibly help them. He may love Ste, but you have to remember that, being psychotic, Brendan's view of love is a LOT different than most. To him, loving someone means possession and obsession. To normal people, love is all warmth, trust, and commitment.
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Post by queenmab126 on May 8, 2012 16:36:55 GMT -5
I don't mean to sound rude, but I also think that Emmet is aware of how much attention (Much? Many? Been studying all day, english is not my first language, so forgive me if I mess up grammar) the whole Stendan storyline attracks... and that, in terms of working as an actor, means more screen time, more publicity. So it's pretty obvious that he is going to root for that. Kieron as well, but from what I can see the whole Stug thing seems to be getting more and more popular by the minute, even though it was a tiny bit rushed, but from what I gather by other posts HO has a habint of turning previously totally straight people into gay...
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 8, 2012 17:26:31 GMT -5
Which makes the situation of certain folks bitching, complaining AND comparing it to previous HOL storylines absolutely ridiculous. If TPTB "listened" to the folks who bitched, complained and compared all of these straight "turned" gay storyline, would we have had JP, Craig, Spike, Keiron, Ste, Doug and/or the BB exists for us to watch?! Nope just absolute hypocrisy.
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Post by quan87 on May 8, 2012 19:51:17 GMT -5
Why not? Amy and Ste have managed to stay friends. Brendan and Ste are not the same man. The circumstances of their violence were completely different and their backgrounds were different. Amy and Ste were both kids when they got together and Ste was already abused and damaged and doing drugs and being abused regularly by his family. Brendan is what Ste MIGHT have become 20 years late if he hadn't gotten help, gone to youth offenders, received treatment and counseling and worked VERY hard for years to get his act together, control his temper and become a better person. Brendan is a sociopath. He is written as such. He is psychologically incapable of change. He ENJOYS controlling others and manipulating people's lives. He's a very interesting character and Emmett is a glory to watch but Ste and Brendan are not the same. Ste was barely able to form words that weren't fueled by bitterness, anger and fear when he was 16 and beating on Amy. They had to be apart for years before they could even have a conversation. And, Amy STILL has issues about it as she references it from time to time. Ste has genuine remorse for his horrible treatment of her but he has grown into a wonderful young man who wants to love his kids and raise them to be good people and he avoids violence at all costs now. In all the time Brendan was abusing him, he only hit him back once (in any significant way) and it was to make Brendan stay away from him. Some part of Ste believed he deserved to be punished because of his treatment of Amy. That plus his coming out got all mixed up with desire and lust for Brendan. But I think Ste sees Brendan VERY clearly now. Even IF he's ever able to forgive him, he'll never forget and he'll never be able to be with him (now that he knows what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who isn't trying to control you with violence and manipulation.) I'm not mad at Brendan. I'm glad he's on the scene causing mayhem. I just want to see Ste's character's progression continue. I think Kieron and Emmett both know that these characters are linked forever but that doesn't mean they're going to be some sunset ending, endgame thing. IMO The point of all these interviews is to keep viewers interested and guessing so they're always going to dangle some Stendan out there This is like the best post ever.
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Post by vanessa on May 9, 2012 2:31:13 GMT -5
Sorry, but i disgree. I respect everyone in here, but i believe Brendan will change.
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