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Post by overtherainbow on May 12, 2016 23:17:52 GMT -5
Yay! I'm so so so happy it got picked up! I'm still sorta worried about the CW neutering Kevin Keller. They have neutered several gay male characters in thr past. Hopefully they won't this time though. Congrats to the cast nd crew! I can't wait to see it!
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Post by overtherainbow on May 17, 2016 15:35:03 GMT -5
SPOILERS (highlight to read):
I just read that Veronica and Betty kiss in the pilot. Kevin will just "discuss" sex, but we won't get to see him actually do it. So we will have tv show number one million where lesbian kissing/sex is ok but gay male kissing/sex is not. Well.. it's ok if you discuss it as long as you don't show it. This is so offensive. It's The Carrie Diaries all over again. Bennet and Walt talked about having sex, we never got to see them doing it, but the lesbians got to have sex... of course! If this is the case with Riverdale too then I'm gonna stop watching. I don't support hypocrisy. And Greg Berlanti is gay himself! How can he not see how this is offensive WTF?! Its like he's saying "lesbian sexuality is beautiful and accepted and we can show that, gay male sexuality on the other hand is something to be ashamed of". Smh I just can't with this sh*t.
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Post by justinate on May 17, 2016 18:38:47 GMT -5
I was so excited that this show had been picked up and that spoiler just took the wind out of my sails. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Gay showrunners tend to be more terrified of showing gay intimacy than their straight counterparts (with some notable exceptions like HTGAWM's Pete Nowalk). Plus this is the CW - it could be a mandate from them. (I'll never understand why the networks aimed at a youth demographic are the most homophobic.)
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Post by blake on May 17, 2016 19:31:50 GMT -5
I've read rumors that this show is going to be a mid-season replacement,because The CW is placing all their time and energy into promoting Supergirl.But there should be a clearer picture since The CW upfronts are tomorrow,so they should release their fall lineup then.
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Post by blake on May 19, 2016 12:03:24 GMT -5
It was reported yesterday at The CW up fronts that Riverdale is going to be a mid-season replacement.
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Post by justinate on May 20, 2016 20:06:25 GMT -5
Official synopsis:
Nary a mention of Kevin Keller, which doesn't bode well at all. The CW's poor track record of gay male representation looks set to continue. Their execs must have a serious problem with homophobia; it seems like the gay content from the pilot script was minimized in the pilot that was actually filmed and the character will be even more marginalized in the series. If I had to guess, the network might have made toning down the gay content (while ramping up the 'HOT' lesbians) a condition of picking up the pilot to series.
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Post by overtherainbow on May 21, 2016 4:03:27 GMT -5
Official synopsis: Nary a mention of Kevin Keller, which doesn't bode well at all. The CW's poor track record of gay male representation looks set to continue. Their execs must have a serious problem with homophobia; it seems like the gay content from the pilot script was minimized in the pilot that was actually filmed and the character will be even more marginalized in the series. If I had to guess, the network might have made toning down the gay content (while ramping up the 'HOT' lesbians) a condition of picking up the pilot to series. SPOILER, highlight to read: I think this synopsis is just about the main storyline, aka the one that has Archie in the center. Many things that I've read elsewhere is not included in this synopsis, like you said.. Kevin, or the lesbian kiss. But yes, I definitely agree that not even mentioning Kevin is a bad sign. I have a really bad gut feeling, like they will feature vey little of Kevin, he will be yet another barely there character. I hope I'm wrong though. In this article they say Kevin is a big part of the show, so maybe that synopsis, just reads a bit 'off' or something: www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/29/ive-also-read-pilot-script-riverdale-lgbtq-televised-archie-universe/ and then there's this: season-zero.com/riverdale-the-cw-pilot-preview/
"Kevin Keller is a popular openly gay student. He meets boys/men on Grindr. It’s very modern, but not revolutionnary. Plus, at least in the pilot, he says he does but we don’t see him doing it. So that doesn’t really count for me. Sorry. Honestly, I don’t see what else can be billed as “subversive” in there."
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 26, 2016 16:30:56 GMT -5
I just saw the trailer, and they didn't show Kevin Keller once? I notice the actor wasn't present at the recent Comic Con either, while the rest of the cast were. I wonder how big his role actually is? Then again, Jughead was barely in the trailer, and I assume his role is big, so maybe we shouldn't judge from the trailer? idk
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Post by justinate on Jul 26, 2016 18:56:31 GMT -5
The more I hear about this project, the more I feel it is going to be a massive disappointment in terms of gay representation. I suspect Kevin won't be a regular cast member - more likely a recurring character who appears in the 'C' storyline every 3 episodes and won't have any love life depicted onscreen. I don't know if that was the original intent, or if the show has been 'sanitized' by the CW (which, given their track record, is very possible).
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jul 26, 2016 20:19:48 GMT -5
I've been trying to find information about Riverdale, scouring youtube for comic con videos that may give any details about Kevin or if they plan on making Jughead a-sexual, and haven't seen anything that has much promise. However, Cole Sprouse who is playing Jughead, and they ask him asexuality question. So far it doesn't seem like a part of this version, but it's still a possibility. If you click to play the video it should cue right up to the sexuality question. I don't think Casey Cott, Kevin, was at SDCC, but that may have been an availability thing. None of the interviewers asked about the character, so I don't know what that says about his importance or lack there of. I just saw the trailer, and they didn't show Kevin Keller once? I notice the actor wasn't present at the recent Comic Con either, while the rest of the cast were. I wonder how big his role actually is? Then again, Jughead was barely in the trailer, and I assume his role is big, so maybe we shouldn't judge from the trailer? idk Where did you see the trailer? I've been looking everywhere for it.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 27, 2016 7:04:00 GMT -5
I just saw the trailer, and they didn't show Kevin Keller once? I notice the actor wasn't present at the recent Comic Con either, while the rest of the cast were. I wonder how big his role actually is? Then again, Jughead was barely in the trailer, and I assume his role is big, so maybe we shouldn't judge from the trailer? idk Where did you see the trailer? I've been looking everywhere for it. Here: riverdalesource.tumblr.com/post/147939756452/first-riverdale-trailer
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Post by justinate on Jul 27, 2016 7:53:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the trailer. I may be mistaken but it looks like the material could be solely from the pilot? At least if all else fails, we should get some good eye candy from KJ Apa. Lord, is that boy hot or what!
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 27, 2016 8:54:47 GMT -5
Wait! Aren't the Archie comics humorous and fun? How did they get such an incredibly dark series from the source material?
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jul 27, 2016 12:42:07 GMT -5
Wait! Aren't the Archie comics humorous and fun? How did they get such an incredibly dark series from the source material? From what I've seen they're making it a film noir version of the Archie comics. My Archie knowledge is pretty limited, what I read as a kid was all the lighthearted Archie comics. From what I understood (which was little) from what Cole Sprouse was talking about in the video I posted, there are actaully multiple versions of the Archie comics, and they are drawing from a particular one. The trailer made it seem like the teen drama shows that they have on freeforum like PLL, but with Archie characters. I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll give it a shot, but those shows get old fast for me.
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Post by dmagiclight on Jul 27, 2016 14:06:44 GMT -5
the trailer looks great
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 28, 2016 15:59:35 GMT -5
It could turn out to be well done and enjoyable, but going by the trailer, to me it looks generic. Aren't there a lot of these dark-themed teen shows on the air like Teen Wolf? I'm sure the characters in Riverdale aren't werewolves, but there's probably some dark, supernatural force at work. And I'm sure the relationship between Archie and his best friend Jughead will be a major bromance with homoerotic undertones which causes everyone to ship them. Might as well go ahead and invent a ship name now. How about Jarchie or Arhead? Kevin, the gay character, will probably get just enough screen time to make the show seem trendy. It's become a formula. I hope I'm wrong, though.
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Post by dmagiclight on Jul 28, 2016 16:17:08 GMT -5
I hope your wrong to but I doubt it fingers crossed
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Post by blake on Nov 22, 2016 10:24:56 GMT -5
The CW,has announced that Riverdale will premier on Thursday (January 26,2017) at 9:00 PM 8:00 central
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Post by dmagiclight on Nov 22, 2016 18:45:32 GMT -5
I hope this show is not Gay baiting like so many other shows have done recently
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 23, 2016 4:12:10 GMT -5
My expectation for this show is very low, considering this is CW and they always seem to downplay the gay content in their shows.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 23, 2016 15:24:04 GMT -5
My expectation for this show is very low, considering this is CW and they always seem to downplay the gay content in their shows. CW is one of the worst channels in terms of gay characters, they always have token gay characters and that's all, which is a pity because due to their target audience having gay characters and storylines is not exactly risky for them
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Post by justinate on Nov 24, 2016 10:27:18 GMT -5
I won't expect too much. For whatever reason the CW (as well as MTV) are notoriously bad when it comes to gay representation, despite targeting a youth demographic whom you'd expect to be much more liberal and accepting of alternate sexualities.
To be fair to Riverdale, though, they've not really promoted the gay character. He doesn't even appear in the trailer and to my knowledge, he's not a regular character who appears in every episode. I believe network interference forced the screenwriter to reduce what we see onscreen of the gay storyline. Kevin's part in the pilot script sounded more significant than what was eventually filmed and sold to the CW.
So yeah, temper your expectations for a barely-there gay and maybe - just maybe - you will be pleasantly surprised if you get more than that.
If I watch, it'll be more for KJ Apa (Archie), who I think is fit-as and a strong actor to boot.
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 24, 2016 18:30:15 GMT -5
Would be interesting to see if they go with the modern version of Jughead though, who is asexual as that would be a rare portrayal on television
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 28, 2016 17:42:17 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Dec 22, 2016 17:59:20 GMT -5
So.. in the new trailer we get to see two girls making out, yet not a single word on the gay character's love life. Yeah.. this makes me just SO optimistic! Will we get yet another Greg Berlanti show catering to straight fanboys and lesbians while forgetting about gay men? It's so fucking hypocritical it pisses me off.
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