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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 16, 2013 13:53:57 GMT -5
So true about Da Vinci's Demons! That turned pretty ugly at the end of first season... Though the last mocking reviews were hilarious. I agree that Nahville should have it's own cover on The Backlot but I actually think it's find it only gets covered in Anthony's column. Not much gay is going on in Nashville anyway (unless you count 2 guys holding hands and 2 women kissing. I know there is absolutely nothing in Arrow but I guess that show has more shirtless scenes). And I guess I don't know the difference between a SOAP and a TV-show anymore. Maybe none of the reviewers on TBL, other than Anthony actually want to review the show? Maybe they like reviewing Arrow, Vampire Diaries and AHS because they find those programs more interesting. So Brent was on a date and Will was upset. Boohoo. That's the choice he's made in pursuit of his c&w singer dreams, for now. At least Brent's not waiting for him. Thanks for the support guys. I know I've been harsh on The Backlot. The thing is.. I sorta get their reasoning for covering straight shows.. there's a lack of gay shows right now, so they need something to fill the void with, that's why they cover shows that are popular among gay men, even if it isn't particularly gay. I also understand the website traffic thing. They get more views, hence also more ad revenue if they feature straight content too. AND it's not like they never cover gay shows anymore. I still appreciate them covering gay movies and gay shows. I do miss the good old AfterElton before Glee though. Back then they never featured straight shows, everything was purely gay, as it should have been all along imo. But I guess they saw it differently, and the website evolved. I wonder why The Backlot took such a straight direction though, while AfterEllen didn't. It's just odd. I know there's not much I can do about it. I do however know that many gay men were unhappy with the direction the website took, and left. And like, I get it. I don't like it either.. but there's not many options out there, so kinda gotta stick with it. Anyway.. my point is just.. despite everything, I still appreciate the hard work the guys behind the website put into the articles, despite it not always being to my liking. And the few gay articles they have left are still good.. I really enjoy Anthony's weekly Soap Column. But I'm still not happy with them not covering Nashville. It was such an important episode, it dealt with sexuality, homophobia and sexism. I think such an important episode should have gotten its own review, and not just be a throwaway in some soaps column (despite me liking Anthony's column a lot). I'm not even asking them to cover it every week, just this ONE episode, that'd be nice. And imo, if they can cover straight shows every week, then they should be able to cover one important gay episode on a show too. Just my opinion!
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 16, 2013 14:02:23 GMT -5
So true about Da Vinci's Demons! That turned pretty ugly at the end of first season... Though the last mocking reviews were hilarious. I agree that Nahville should have it's own cover on The Backlot but I actually think it's find it only gets covered in Anthony's column. Not much gay is going on in Nashville anyway (unless you count 2 guys holding hands and 2 women kissing. I know there is absolutely nothing in Arrow but I guess that show has more shirtless scenes). And I guess I don't know the difference between a SOAP and a TV-show anymore. Maybe none of the reviewers on TBL, other than Anthony actually want to review the show? Maybe they like reviewing Arrow, Vampire Diaries and AHS because they find those programs more interesting. So Brent was on a date and Will was upset. Boohoo. That's the choice he's made in pursuit of his c&w singer dreams, for now. At least Brent's not waiting for him. Or maybe it's because they know the writers and/or producers of the shows, and suck up to them? They've been known to do that in the past.. to cover shows for their friends. Sorry, I still think the fact that they don't like the show is a lousy excuse. Like I said.. I'm not even asking them to cover it every week, but the episodes that are important? HELL YES. And yesterday's episode dealt with some issues that I think are important for a gay website to cover. HuffPo gave Nashville credit, they were positively surprised. They thought the episode was well done (despite some flaws and minor clichés). I think the writers on The Backlot would have liked the episode too, because it was good. And like I said even if they don't like the show in general, I still think this one episode deserved its own review. And yes.. I still find it hypocritical that they prioritize straight shows over shows with not one gay character, but THREE. It just doesn't sit right with me.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 16, 2013 14:48:30 GMT -5
I think the decision of the shows they cover is not a decision of the people who work on the backlot but something that their bosses decide. It was pretty obvious that there was a big change on that site a couple of years ago, and it's less gay. The site always had straight viewers, but now it seems more directed to straight gay friendly viewers to gay viewers. Because even with the excuse of gay viewership (sorry but gays have a very broad of different tastes, so you are going to find a gay viewership in every show you want) they cover shows that are not of particulary gay interest, not even in a campy way (Revenge will have a gay following even without Nolan) I suppose shows like Arrow or The vampire diaries (both with gay writers but without any single gay character) give them more page views that shows with gay characters. And business is business. I understand that some things, like the book reviews, didn't compensate because it meaned a lot of work and few page views, but the backlot loss a lot of its identity. At least it continues to be a place with respectfull comments section (something one can not say about other interesting gay webs like towleroad or queerty). Sometimes the new policy puts them in very uncomfortable situation. I recognize that i have a very visceral reaction to the plot (it was even before the show started to air) of Da Vinci's demons. I find that plot insulting (i wasn't the only one) and they had to spend a lot of time defending the show, something that ended backfiring them. I'm very interested in the return of Da vinci's demons because they can not promote the show the same way (they used a lot of gay press back then), and they are in a very week position, because they were renewed after a few good ratings episodes but by the end of the season the ratings were a lot less stellar. I felt pity for the poor actor who really had a tough job defending what the show was doing with an historial character.
Nashville is a show with a gay character (yes, it's not a main character, but it's not an episodic one either), and it's interesting because it's aimed at potentially conservative viewers, because country is not exactly the most gay friendly music genre. Only for the sociological impact it will interesting to cover the show
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 16, 2013 15:41:05 GMT -5
I think the decision of the shows they cover is not a decision of the people who work on the backlot but something that their bosses decide. It was pretty obvious that there was a big change on that site a couple of years ago, and it's less gay. The site always had straight viewers, but now it seems more directed to straight gay friendly viewers to gay viewers. Because even with the excuse of gay viewership (sorry but gays have a very broad of different tastes, so you are going to find a gay viewership in every show you want) they cover shows that are not of particulary gay interest, not even in a campy way (Revenge will have a gay following even without Nolan) I suppose shows like Arrow or The vampire diaries (both with gay writers but without any single gay character) give them more page views that shows with gay characters. And business is business. I understand that some things, like the book reviews, didn't compensate because it meaned a lot of work and few page views, but the backlot loss a lot of its identity. At least it continues to be a place with respectfull comments section (something one can not say about other interesting gay webs like towleroad or queerty). Sometimes the new policy puts them in very uncomfortable situation. I recognize that i have a very visceral reaction to the plot (it was even before the show started to air) of Da Vinci's demons. I find that plot insulting (i wasn't the only one) and they had to spend a lot of time defending the show, something that ended backfiring them. I'm very interested in the return of Da vinci's demons because they can not promote the show the same way (they used a lot of gay press back then), and they are in a very week position, because they were renewed after a few good ratings episodes but by the end of the season the ratings were a lot less stellar. I felt pity for the poor actor who really had a tough job defending what the show was doing with an historial character. Nashville is a show with a gay character (yes, it's not a main character, but it's not an episodic one either), and it's interesting because it's aimed at potentially conservative viewers, because country is not exactly the most gay friendly music genre. Only for the sociological impact it will interesting to cover the showI agree with everything you said here! And about the bolded part: EXACTLY! They need to cover the show. And honestly.. I don't give a damn what they like or don't like. Sometimes you don't like everything about your job. You still owe it to the viewers of your site to give them what they want. I feel like they have an obligation to cover shows if they are as important as Nashville. Can you even imagine the impact this gay character has? The homophobic, self hating closet thing has been done a million times before, and is nothing new. I get it. But it's still a gay storyline on a conservative show, and deserves respect imo. And just showing Brent in a relationship with his boyfriend, holding hands.. like it's a normal thing. And then that homophobia is wrong. This is HUGE! The show cover some really important topics, like sexuality, homophobia and sexism. It's important for sociological reasons. They should cover it. Especially since they cover a lot of shows with no gay characters at all. Nashville is actually one of the most important shows they COULD cover, yet they ignore it like it's no big deal. Sorry.. that's not fine with me. I appreciate that Anthony covers it in his column, don't get me wrong. But I think it deserves more than that. A show like Nashville should get a review every week, or at the very least the most important episodes, like the one on Thursday.
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 19, 2013 19:14:32 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 21, 2013 3:36:28 GMT -5
OK.. now I know why The Backlot won't cover the show more than they do. They hate it, or at least Anthony do. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I disagree with Anthony though, as did HuffPo and other people in the comments of The Backlot. I love Anthony's soaps column, but it's obvious we disagree on Nashville. Yes, the show is flawed and riddled with clichés. But I still think they have done the gay storyline fairly well. The last episode was really good imo. It proved that Nashville can tackle important issues like homophobia and sexism, and do it well.
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 21, 2013 18:32:01 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 22, 2013 1:50:55 GMT -5
Thanks This is great! I'll definitely check them out
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Post by AndreB on Nov 23, 2013 15:55:09 GMT -5
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Post by AndreB on Nov 23, 2013 16:42:47 GMT -5
"There’s some good news for Nashville fans: The Wednesday country drama is no longer going to air as a split season as originally planned; instead of going on hiatus, Nashville will continue to run new episodes in January and February." insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/19/abc-midseason-dates/
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Post by moonstruck-me on Nov 23, 2013 19:51:15 GMT -5
"There’s some good news for Nashville fans: The Wednesday country drama is no longer going to air as a split season as originally planned; instead of going on hiatus, Nashville will continue to run new episodes in January and February." insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/19/abc-midseason-dates/Yay! Thanks for the good news!
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 9, 2013 16:58:21 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by AndreB on Dec 12, 2013 6:17:18 GMT -5
I was sure that they will not kill off Will, but the show got me almost psyched! Now let's see how he will be saved... According to spoilers somebody had to die, but fortunately it was Peggy "Pork Blood" Kenter - one of the most pointless TV-characters ever
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 12, 2013 7:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by alaink on Dec 12, 2013 13:01:18 GMT -5
I won't lie, the songs on this show are really good.
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Post by moonstruck-me on Dec 16, 2013 15:29:39 GMT -5
I won't lie, the songs on this show are really good. Some of them are. The storylines... - not so much.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 16, 2014 9:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by moonstruck-me on Jan 16, 2014 13:08:06 GMT -5
It was a great scene between Will and Gunnar on the mountain but this storyline is SO frustrating! I really thought something would come of the "near death experience"... oh well.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 23, 2014 18:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 30, 2014 8:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 5, 2014 18:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by dmagiclight on Feb 6, 2014 14:47:15 GMT -5
WILL IS AN ASS
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 8, 2014 8:08:52 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 6, 2014 7:15:32 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 10, 2014 23:26:19 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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