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Post by GNP on Oct 8, 2013 22:57:37 GMT -5
So glad that this show is back on air...I was worried that it would be axed after season 1!
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Post by overtherainbow on Oct 11, 2013 14:05:49 GMT -5
I am so conflicted about this storyline, because Brent is so adorable. Those blue eyes.. just wow! I think Will and Brent would be extremely cute together, and I do think it's heading that way. I'm just not sure about Brent's intentions. A part of me still thinks he's using Will, or taking advantage of him. I just hope I'm wrong.
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 12, 2013 9:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 21, 2013 5:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Oct 24, 2013 2:24:14 GMT -5
Things are FINALLY starting to happen! When Will touched Brent, they definitely shared a moment. I mean, it wasn't much, but it's a start. I think Will getting a beard will just push him into the arms of Brent.
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 24, 2013 6:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 24, 2013 6:50:17 GMT -5
Things are FINALLY starting to happen! When Will touched Brent, they definitely shared a moment. I mean, it wasn't much, but it's a start. I think Will getting a beard will just push him into the arms of Brent. After the last time that Will punched Brent, they shared a moment. What is it with these portrayals of gay men punching and being violent towards men that they are supposed to care for on these soaps?
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Post by miniasalani on Oct 24, 2013 9:40:32 GMT -5
Things are FINALLY starting to happen! When Will touched Brent, they definitely shared a moment. I mean, it wasn't much, but it's a start. I think Will getting a beard will just push him into the arms of Brent. After the last time that Will punched Brent, they shared a moment. What is it with these portrayals of gay men punching and being violent towards men that they are supposed to care for on these soaps? in chinese, there is a common saying "打是亲骂是爱“, means beating is a sign of affection, cursing is a sign of love... ...
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 24, 2013 10:21:52 GMT -5
After the last time that Will punched Brent, they shared a moment. What is it with these portrayals of gay men punching and being violent towards men that they are supposed to care for on these soaps? in chinese, there is a common saying "打是亲骂是爱“, means beating is a sign of affection, cursing is a sign of love... ... But these two male characters are based in Nashville and probably have no idea about that common saying in Chinese. I find it disturbing that for more times than I can count, there have been way too many violent scenes used in these fictionalised tales of gay men hiding in the closet, being in denial and lashing out towards the person that they don't want to be emotionally and sexually attracted to in these storylines. Is this something that does happen to a majority of gay men in their real lives?
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Post by miniasalani on Oct 24, 2013 11:09:05 GMT -5
in chinese, there is a common saying "打是亲骂是爱“, means beating is a sign of affection, cursing is a sign of love... ... But these two male characters are based in Nashville and probably have no idea about that common saying in Chinese. I find it disturbing that for more times than I can count, there have been way too many violent scenes used in these fictionalised tales of gay men hiding in the closet, being in denial and lashing out towards the person that they don't want to be emotionally and sexually attracted to in these storylines. Is this something that does happen to a majority of gay men in their real lives? no need to be serious about what i am saying, i just trying to be funny or at least make some sense for what those scriptwriters were doing for...
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 24, 2013 11:21:51 GMT -5
But these two male characters are based in Nashville and probably have no idea about that common saying in Chinese. I find it disturbing that for more times than I can count, there have been way too many violent scenes used in these fictionalised tales of gay men hiding in the closet, being in denial and lashing out towards the person that they don't want to be emotionally and sexually attracted to in these storylines. Is this something that does happen to a majority of gay men in their real lives? no need to be serious about what i am saying, i just trying to be funny or at least make some sense for what those scriptwriters were doing for... But the topic shouldn't be turned into a joke to make it understandable. Will violently punched Brent in his face and that's how we were introduced to that character and his connection to Will. Brent's now involved with Will on a professional basis, but the wish is to see those two kiss, get in bed and fall in love? Even after Will, as Brent said, reacts to him like he's about to jump out of his skin.
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Post by overtherainbow on Oct 24, 2013 11:45:16 GMT -5
no need to be serious about what i am saying, i just trying to be funny or at least make some sense for what those scriptwriters were doing for... But the topic shouldn't be turned into a joke to make it understandable. Will violently punched Brent in his face and that's how we were introduced to that character and his connection to Will. Brent's now involved with Will on a professional basis, but the wish is to see those two kiss, get in bed and fall in love? Even after Will, as Brent said, reacts to him like he's about to jump out of his skin. I don't even know where to start with this. You're definitely right though, it IS a serious subject, one not to take lightly. I also reacted badly to Will's violent behavior. I'm not excusing what he did at all, but I do think it's realistic. Will is desperate to come off as straight, to be known as the ladies man, and whenever someone comes close to exposing the real Will, he pushes them away, even using violence. You know they say that homophobes have homosexual feelings themselves, and I sorta feel this fits with Will. I do wish Will "only" threatened Brent, and din't punch him. I did not like that development at all. That said, it was sorta realistic. I'm not saying all closeted gay men are violent, but a very tiny minority are. And considering Will's background, his father basically disowning him etc, it's not that far fetched imo. I do NOT want all gay men to be portrayed as violent assholes, but it does fit with Will and his background. When it comes to Brent, yeah.. I want them to get together. They shared amazing chemistry since the start. Do I think they are perfect together? Probably not. Do Will need to grow up, accept himself, and come out before starting a real relationship? I mean.. yeah, probably. But I still want to see where this goes. I don't even think these two will stay together for long. I sorta expect them to get together for a short while, then get exposed or something and then Brent leaves. I still like them together though, and I think that maybe Brent will help Will come to terms with his sexuality. I do expect Will to sincerely apologize to Brent though. I doubt they'll get together before Will basically crawls on his knees and beg for forgiveness, because what he did really was unacceptable.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 24, 2013 17:33:58 GMT -5
But the topic shouldn't be turned into a joke to make it understandable. Will violently punched Brent in his face and that's how we were introduced to that character and his connection to Will. Brent's now involved with Will on a professional basis, but the wish is to see those two kiss, get in bed and fall in love? Even after Will, as Brent said, reacts to him like he's about to jump out of his skin. I don't even know where to start with this. You're definitely right though, it IS a serious subject, one not to take lightly. I also reacted badly to Will's violent behavior. I'm not excusing what he did at all, but I do think it's realistic. Will is desperate to come off as straight, to be known as the ladies man, and whenever someone comes close to exposing the real Will, he pushes them away, even using violence. You know they say that homophobes have homosexual feelings themselves, and I sorta feel this fits with Will. I do wish Will "only" threatened Brent, and din't punch him. I did not like that development at all. That said, it was sorta realistic. I'm not saying all closeted gay men are violent, but a very tiny minority are. And considering Will's background, his father basically disowning him etc, it's not that far fetched imo. I do NOT want all gay men to be portrayed as violent assholes, but it does fit with Will and his background. When it comes to Brent, yeah.. I want them to get together. They shared amazing chemistry since the start. Do I think they are perfect together? Probably not. Do Will need to grow up, accept himself, and come out before starting a real relationship? I mean.. yeah, probably. But I still want to see where this goes. I don't even think these two will stay together for long. I sorta expect them to get together for a short while, then get exposed or something and then Brent leaves. I still like them together though, and I think that maybe Brent will help Will come to terms with his sexuality. I do expect Will to sincerely apologize to Brent though. I doubt they'll get together before Will basically crawls on his knees and beg for forgiveness, because what he did really was unacceptable. Well, I hope that Brent has an proud and out lover, who has an understanding with him, that whenever he's out of town on business, he can have a "bit of fun" with another man. It seems like he enjoyed his time with Will, to the point that he feels that he can keep his sexual interest in him, separate from their professional jobs.
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Post by alaink on Oct 24, 2013 20:09:44 GMT -5
^^ Hmm. Nothing says romantic like an open relationship, apparently.
Anyway, what doesn't makes sense is Will getting violent in a homophobic, self-denial type of way. That's because he was already comfortable enough with himself to make out with another guy when he was a teenager. If the writers focused more on the violence being a result of hoping to stay in the closet for career purposes, that would make much more sense.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 25, 2013 4:36:24 GMT -5
^^ Hmm. Nothing says romantic like an open relationship, apparently. Anyway, what doesn't makes sense is Will getting violent in a homophobic, self-denial type of way. That's because he was already comfortable enough with himself to make out with another guy when he was a teenager. If the writers focused more on the violence being a result of hoping to stay in the closet for career purposes, that would make much more sense. I personally can buy and accept an open marriage situation, than for Brent (an older and out gay man, not a teen boy who's not experienced life and relationships with other men) to fall in love with a man like Will, who has attacked him, because he didn't want to let his own sexual orientation be found out. As for his fears for his sexuality derailing his budding singer career in the country music industry. I get it. I understand that this is something he's wanted for most of his life. What I don't get, is that Will's a grown man. He doesn't have to be written as using violence towards somebody else, to get the point across that he's a gay man who has to hide who he is, in order to pursue his dream of being a country music star and possibly, maybe fall in love with another man, who also works in the industry. My main issue is the violence towards gay men, by other gay men (whom they are secretly attracted towards), because that seems to be the OTHER typical soap trope these writers use (other than coming out of the closet) for these gay characters. Can there be any other way to write for these characters? Look at how they're writing Deacon and his inner struggles to overcome what he experienced in his youth and the mistakes he made, that caused his earlier life and relationship with Rayna to explode (due to his alcoholism). He's taking the steps to change his life. Yes, both he and Rayna will always be the loves of their lives, share a daughter that they both love, have long standing careers in their industry and will probably reunite again in the future. Right now, they just cannot be together, because they're both messes and their lives (and families) are in turmoil.
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Post by AndreB on Nov 2, 2013 7:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 7, 2013 4:23:40 GMT -5
Ugh.. no episode yesterday! It sucks. I was looking forward to this episode all week! whyyyyyyyy
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 14, 2013 3:27:40 GMT -5
Yesterday's episode was really good! WARNING SPOILERS: Brent was soooo adorable with his boyfriend. Them holding hands was the cutest thing I've ever seen. Will acted like he always does when he gets close to Brent, or when he gets close to his own feelings, he hits people. Will got mad at the idiot guys for harassing Brent and his date, so he hit them. But was it just because he was mad at the idiots for the way they treated them, or was it out of something else.. jealousy perhaps? Either way Will has some serious issues, and should go to an anger management program. Oh yeah, and he should stop sleeping with women after he gets in touch with his emotions, lol. It happened last night too Oh yeah, and don't even get me started with the plot twist at the end of the episode. More lesbian drama.. yay! It was pretty shocking. That said, I REALLY hope they don't go there with them. First of all, Juliette is NOT a lesbian. Second, I'm SICK of seeing gays being treated differently than lesbians. The supposed gay couple in this episode didn't even get to kiss, while they managed to include a lesbian kiss in a plot twist.. just ugh. Third, the lesbians have enough visibility on tv as it is (40+ shows include lesbian characters, only seven include gay characters). I want us to have this show alone. For once I'd actually like a show to focus on gay love, and not include a lesbian kiss JUST for ratings sake. I guess they needed to contain the straight male viewers who are grossed out from gays though, so that's why they included the lesbians. Oh well.. I hope the strategy worked. If it means getting a third season, and possibly more Will and Brent, I'm all for it.
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 14, 2013 18:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 15, 2013 12:58:03 GMT -5
It's beyond me why a website like The Backlot didn't have the guts to cover this episode. I can't believe they cover shows with NO gay characters, like Arrow, Agents of SHIELD etc. Yet they can't cover a show with not one, but THREE gay characters. The Backlot is a complete and utter joke.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Nov 15, 2013 14:28:24 GMT -5
It's beyond me why a website like The Backlot didn't have the guts to cover this episode. I can't believe they cover shows with NO gay characters, like Arrow, Agents of SHIELD etc. Yet they can't cover a show with not one, but THREE gay characters. The Backlot is a complete and utter joke. Didn't someone AT that site respond to your question on this topic? Anthony already covers that show in his column. Isn't that enough?
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Post by overtherainbow on Nov 15, 2013 16:06:53 GMT -5
It's beyond me why a website like The Backlot didn't have the guts to cover this episode. I can't believe they cover shows with NO gay characters, like Arrow, Agents of SHIELD etc. Yet they can't cover a show with not one, but THREE gay characters. The Backlot is a complete and utter joke. Didn't someone AT that site respond to your question on this topic? Anthony already covers that show in his column. Isn't that enough? No, imo, an episode as important as the one yesterday deserves its own review. I find it odd how HuffPo find it interesting enough to write about, but not a GAY website. The Backlot cover shows with zero gay characters all the time... they have weekly reviews of Arrow, The Vampire Diaries and Agents of SHIELD ffs. Yet they can't find the space or time to cover something gay? Here you have a show with actual gay characters, who are complex and interesting. I just think it deserves its own post, that's all. Putting it together with all other soaps isn't enough imo. I expect more from a gay website. That said.. The Backlot isn't very gay anymore, so maybe it's fitting that they don't cover/review actual gay shows.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 16, 2013 8:50:57 GMT -5
Well, she has a point, it's really weird the number of shows without any hint of gay content that thebacklot cover (don't get me wrong, i like Arrow, but that's not exactly the show i expect being covered on a gay site). It's true that right now there are very few shows with gay characters (and don't make me go to the poor state of gay characters on soaps when they only thing they do is die or marry, and i don't know what's more boring of both)i undertand they cover some shows with appeal to gay audiences (i can't see the appeal to gay audiences of The vampire diaries apart of having a gay writer), but Nashville is a prime time show, so i can't see no reason to be covered. Anthony cover Revenge on his colum, but Revenge has its proper review, and the backlot even covered Da Vinci's demons till it was obvious that it would end backfiring (the mocking final reviews were more interesting than the proper show).
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Post by moonstruck-me on Nov 16, 2013 9:26:31 GMT -5
Well, she has a point, it's really weird the number of shows without any hint of gay content that thebacklot cover (don't get me wrong, i like Arrow, but that's not exactly the show i expect being covered on a gay site). It's true that right now there are very few shows with gay characters (and don't make me go to the poor state of gay characters on soaps when they only thing they do is die or marry, and i don't know what's more boring of both)i undertand they cover some shows with appeal to gay audiences (i can't see the appeal to gay audiences of The vampire diaries apart of having a gay writer), but Nashville is a prime time show, so i can't see no reason to be covered. Anthony cover Revenge on his colum, but Revenge has its proper review, and the backlot even covered Da Vinci's demons till it was obvious that it would end backfiring (the mocking final reviews were more interesting than the proper show). So true about Da Vinci's Demons! That turned pretty ugly at the end of first season... Though the last mocking reviews were hilarious. I agree that Nahville should have it's own cover on The Backlot but I actually think it's find it only gets covered in Anthony's column. Not much gay is going on in Nashville anyway (unless you count 2 guys holding hands and 2 women kissing. I know there is absolutely nothing in Arrow but I guess that show has more shirtless scenes). And I guess I don't know the difference between a SOAP and a TV-show anymore.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Nov 16, 2013 11:49:03 GMT -5
Well, she has a point, it's really weird the number of shows without any hint of gay content that thebacklot cover (don't get me wrong, i like Arrow, but that's not exactly the show i expect being covered on a gay site). It's true that right now there are very few shows with gay characters (and don't make me go to the poor state of gay characters on soaps when they only thing they do is die or marry, and i don't know what's more boring of both)i undertand they cover some shows with appeal to gay audiences (i can't see the appeal to gay audiences of The vampire diaries apart of having a gay writer), but Nashville is a prime time show, so i can't see no reason to be covered. Anthony cover Revenge on his colum, but Revenge has its proper review, and the backlot even covered Da Vinci's demons till it was obvious that it would end backfiring (the mocking final reviews were more interesting than the proper show). So true about Da Vinci's Demons! That turned pretty ugly at the end of first season... Though the last mocking reviews were hilarious. I agree that Nahville should have it's own cover on The Backlot but I actually think it's find it only gets covered in Anthony's column. Not much gay is going on in Nashville anyway (unless you count 2 guys holding hands and 2 women kissing. I know there is absolutely nothing in Arrow but I guess that show has more shirtless scenes). And I guess I don't know the difference between a SOAP and a TV-show anymore. Maybe none of the reviewers on TBL, other than Anthony actually want to review the show? Maybe they like reviewing Arrow, Vampire Diaries and AHS because they find those programs more interesting. So Brent was on a date and Will was upset. Boohoo. That's the choice he's made in pursuit of his c&w singer dreams, for now. At least Brent's not waiting for him.
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