Emmerdale - General Discussion

[alicat]

Nov 17, 2009 19:04:32 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

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Hi folks

Just to let you know that final81 is gonna start posting the story of Aaron & Adam on his YT channel.

He will have clips from Oct to current,


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thanks final81

Excellent! ;D

Thanks sheepiefarm, and thanks final81 in advance ;D ;D

*feels fully prepared now to embrace this new pairing*

[tihkon2]

Background on Aaron & Adam

Many many many thanks to final81 on Youtube for amazing promptness!!!

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[carld2]

I'm looking forward to this story. I know not to expect a happy ending or great romance, but I'm hoping for some great drama, and I'd like to see more gay characters on British soaps. Most of all I'd like to see a story which is actually told over time and with some emotion. I get tired of PLOT POINT, gap, PLOT POINT, gap, PLOT POINT. It's hollow and cynical, especially when many of these characters are all but eunuchs. Emmerdale has never been a soap where gay characters have grand passion, especially in recent years, but I'm hoping we will at least get some of the emotion. The ache of someone falling in love. That's what made McDean work so much, when we saw John Paul dying inside over his love for Craig. I don't want this to be McDean 2.0 but I'd like to see some of the early pacing of that story.

Adam is new to the show. He's only been around since summer, I guess. He's a blank slate. I first started to wonder what story they might have for him when I thought he was looking at men in the Woolpack (not like lust, more like some sort of longing). Then again, that may have just been a random scene, and Adam will just be like the Nick Tilsey of this story, the straight guy who causes feelings in someone else.

Aaron is a very damaged character, and very complex. He's been off and on the show for years, with this very talented actor (Danny Miller) in the role for a year.

His mother Chastity Dingle had a brief marriage to a businessman. Chastity is loud, likes to party, pull scams...be a Dingle. She doesn't fit in to upper class. The marriage broke up and Chastity didn't get custody. Aaron used to visit her when he was a boy. He was usually somewhat ashamed of her, and of the trashy Dingles. He liked to show off his stepmother to make Chastity feel bad. I think deep down he resented Chastity for not being there for him.

Chastity had not seen him in some time, and then a year ago, a cop who was married to a Dingle recognized Aaron as a kid involved in selling drugs. The crime family he worked for held him, as he knew too much, and the Dingles had to come rescue him. He demanded Chas take him back to his father, but when they got there, his father said Aaron was very resentful of his kids with his wife, and that Aaron had been horrible to the family until finally he was no longer welcome in their home.

Aaron was then forced to live with Chastity. He's not very close to her. He also loved to torment Paddy, the local vet Chas worked for. Paddy was in love with Chas and Aaron encouraged him, because he wanted to see Paddy get let down. Chas eventually decided to give Paddy a chance, because she wanted to provide a stable life for Aaron. Over time, Aaron became close to Paddy, like a father figure. Unfortunately, Chas did not love Paddy. She loved Carl King, whom she'd had a very toxic on-and-off relationship with for years. Aaron despised Carl, as he felt Carl treated Chas horribly. When Chas and Carl got back together, Aaron spurned his mother and decided to continue living with Paddy.

Aaron had a crush on Victoria Sugden early this year. She had no real interest in him, beyond having fun, but she used him to make her adopted brother Daz jealous. Daz slept with her, then told her nothing could ever happen again. Victoria was so angry that she slept with Aaron (that was his first time) and made sure Daz would find them together. Aaron was very hurt and betrayed and he told Victoria's other brother, Andy, who ran Daz out of town. Now Aaron and Victoria have no real relationship, beyond talking to each other sometimes.

The thing Aaron probably cared about the most was his dog Clyde; he and Paddy found Clyde being mistreated by an old farmer. I haven't seen the most recent episodes so I'm not sure if Aaron still has the dog or not.

[carld2]

Oh, Aaron's history with the Barton family:

When the Bartons initially arrived, they had issues with the Dingles over sheep-stealing. But in spite of the tension, when Aaron was falsely accused of making a lorry crash through a store window (he'd actually been trying to stop the lorry), John, the Barton father, cleared his name. Then, not too long after that, Aaron was messing around on the farm and John clipped his ear. Things got tense and John ended up locking Aaron in the barn. When Aaron got out, he called the cops on John, but the Dingles eventually convinced Aaron to drop everything.

In the backdrop of all this was Aaron's burgeoning relationships or friendships with Holly and Adam. I don't really know that much about those, I haven't seen the show recently. I guess they are referenced in the clips.

[maya]

Thank you card for all the info and thank you final for the clips. I'm really looking forward to this storyline

[sheepiefarm]

Thanks Tihkon for posting the clips & thanks final81 for getting them up so quickly

I'm really looking forward to watching how this progresses.
Aaron is such a mixed up kid - who could not be moved by the solitary tear that ran down his face when his Mum told him she wanted nothing more to do with him
My gut feeling is that Aaron is gonna go to hell & back trying to get his head round the fact that he has found himself attracted to Adam. Also get the feeling from the clips that maybe Adam will be more involved than just the obligatory str8 guy that Aaron gets a crush on.
It's gonna be angsty - bring it on!!!!

Was musing to myself as to what "coupledom moniker" these two would get if they do become an item......
.....however, when I came up with the thought "Ardon", I couldn't stop chuckling to myself ;D

[alicat]

Nov 18, 2009 12:37:22 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

My gut feeling is that Aaron is gonna go to hell & back trying to get his head round the fact that he has found himself attracted to Adam. Also get the feeling from the clips that maybe Adam will be more involved than just the obligatory str8 guy that Aaron gets a crush on.
It's gonna be angsty - bring it on!!!!

I agree. I wonder if Adam is 100% straight though - I've not watched ED solidly since the Barton family arrived, but I've not seen / heard of him being romantically linked to anyone. I think Aaron's definitely going to flip out over it all, so would the writers want both boys flipping out, or would one be slightly cooler with it??

In an interview dated around the time the actor playing Adam started filming, www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/interviews/a163689/adam-thomas-adam-barton-emmerdale.html, he had this to say:

Who does Adam forge male relationships with?
"I think he starts making friends with Aaron Livesy. There's talk that they start bonding and get on well with each other, but apparently something happens with their friendship and it takes a twist."

Is Adam a ladies' man? Does he have a girlfriend when he arrives?
"Not when he arrives, but I'm hoping he gets one sooner or later! Right now, he's a single man."

What's his relationship like with his family?
"Adam's dad is his best friend and he looks up to him so much. Whatever his dad says, he does. The whole family is really close. Even with his sisters, he's the middle child but he wants to be the older brother and look after them all."

I'm also wondering about future plotlines. Adam's already witnessed the upset caused when Aaron's mum cheated on Paddy, and it's looking very likely that Adam's mum is going to cheat on Adam's dad in the near future (just my speculation). Could bring the boys closer together when all is revealed I'm thinking ...

Also, Adam's dad is very anti-Aaron - could that be being built up to give more impact to any sort of Adam/Aaron reveal?

Just my musings really - could all turn out to be wishful thinking on my part, but I really think these two get it together.

Oh and one more thing - Paddy has a gay cousin (left the show many years ago), so perhaps the writers have put Aaron at Paddy's house is so that he'll have a sympathetic ear. Hope so, this is all looking very well planned! ;D

[rp662]

Nov 18, 2009 12:37:22 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Thanks Tihkon for posting the clips & thanks final81 for getting them up so quickly

I'm really looking forward to watching how this progresses.
Aaron is such a mixed up kid - who could not be moved by the solitary tear that ran down his face when his Mum told him she wanted nothing more to do with him
My gut feeling is that Aaron is gonna go to hell & back trying to get his head round the fact that he has found himself attracted to Adam. Also get the feeling from the clips that maybe Adam will be more involved than just the obligatory str8 guy that Aaron gets a crush on.
It's gonna be angsty - bring it on!!!!

Was musing to myself as to what "coupledom moniker" these two would get if they do become an item......
.....however, when I came up with the thought "Ardon", I couldn't stop chuckling to myself ;D

I think that Aaron is going to have a harder time than Adam. From the clips that final81 posted, there seems to be some tension between the two, and by the way they interact, it seems that Adam is already developing feelings for Aaron. I'm just exited and hope these few weeks leading up until their SL fly by quickly!!!!!!!!!!

[overtherainbow]

Thanks to final81 for the clips and carld2 for the bakground info!

I already love Paddy. He's such a great dad to Aaron, strict but fair, and also very caring. I don't know what would happen to Aaron if he didn't have Paddy. I think Paddy is keeping Aaron in his place, so to speak.

[sheepiefarm]

Yay - we've been moved to the main page - now hoping that the storyline actually goes somewhere.......

It seems that the sighting of James Sutton (aka JP from HO) in these clips is causing as much of a stir than the prospect of Adam & Aaron getting together ;D

Messyme - I love Paddy too - he's such a great character and I love the relationship he has built with Aaron - he's probably the first person in Aaron's life that has made any effort to see him as more than a f*cked up kid.

sadly no sightings of A & A on tonights epi

[Bonobochick]

I haven't been watching. Might soon , depends on time, but I saw the photo of the actor playing Adam and my first thought was Donté (from Waterloo Road)!

[sheepiefarm]

Nov 18, 2009 19:02:58 GMT -5 Bonobochick said:

I haven't been watching. Might soon , depends on time, but I saw the photo of the actor playing Adam and my first thought was Donté (from Waterloo Road)!

And you'd be correct!

[carld2]

Nov 18, 2009 12:37:22 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Aaron is such a mixed up kid - who could not be moved by the solitary tear that ran down his face when his Mum told him she wanted nothing more to do with him

That scene really got to me. That he can cry on cue that way and bring such emotion and pain. That's what good stories should give us. I was so moved. Aaron is a very screwed up young man, to say the least, but I can't help feeling for him.

sheepiefarm, I have seen some "let's put Ryan with Adam and Aaron" type of comments, which makes sense with James's history (on Hollyoaks), but not here. I can see why fans might want more though, he hasn't been given that much on Emmerdale. Their stories are slow boil, and he is starting to gel now. I'm hoping he will have big story soon. There are some rumors that he's going to fall for his sister, Maisie, so if that's true that will be good, if trashy, viewing.

I don't want to get my hopes up because this story is so early and we haven't even seen a lot of the friendship built up yet (I'm hoping we will, as Emmerdale is certainly slow with some other stories), but if this does become a pairing I think it could work well. Aaron is very hard, but fragile underneath, while Adam seems softer, but probably has a real backbone.

I also think physically they would work very well together. They have a real contrast. And they both have a certain charisma, each in their own way.

I don't know if we will see anything sexual whatsoever, I will not even be surprised if we don't see a kiss (unless it's some type of violent kiss), but if they do go there, and acknowledge any sexual attraction between them, I think the actors could do that.

Paddy's a great guy. He did have a gay cousin, Jason, the first gay man on Emmerdale. He had a few stories, mostly B stories, during his few years in town. He helped a woman deliver her baby and tried a relationship with her (didn't get past a kiss). He had a relationship with the boyfriend of the woman who ran the Woolpack at that time. He was involved with a man who had to marry Marlon Dingle's then-girlfriend to stay in the country.

Paddy's generally very nice and supportive, unless you push him too far. He's been a real support system for Aaron and the show was very smart to push their characters together. Aaron can be awful towards him, but deep down he does respect Paddy.

[cheerios]

As much as I loved James as John Paul, I would rather they have him be nothing more than a friend to Aaron. I'm curious to see what James would be like if he had a romantic pairing with a girl this time.

I love Paddy's relationship with Aaron, he is exactly what Aaron needs right now. And you can tell in the short scenes they have together that Aaron adores and respects Paddy as if he was his own father. I think Paddy will be there for Aaron when Aaron starts to have all these very confusing feelings.

I think Aaron is a very confused complicated young man and he doesn't trust any kind of feelings he might have after what happen with his parents. So when he starts to see Adam in a different light it throws him for an even bigger loop. Something is stirring inside of him, but he is used to keep everything he truly feels under tight lock and key. Maybe it's like he's at war with himself, not just because Adam is a bloke but because these feelings are so strong and so fast.

Why exactly are Adam's parents so against Aaron?

[alicat]

Nov 19, 2009 3:40:36 GMT -5 cheerios said:

Why exactly are Adam's parents so against Aaron?

This should explain it - www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/soaps/2589039/Coming-up-in-Emmerdale.html

Another interesting snippet - seems that Adam Thomas's screen test was with Danny Miller rather than any of the Barton family members. So looks like the Aaron/Adam dynamic was a key factor in casting for Adam.
www.lastbroadcast.co.uk/soaps/interviews/v/8806-adam-thomas-emmerdale-interview.html

All good news - and yey, we're on the main board!

[valso]

Thanks for the snippet alicat, truly Adam and Aaron seem to have chemistry (by the way thank you final for the clips) I hope that Adam Thomas's screen test with Danny Miller mean will get to see something juicy between the two of them

[cheerios]

Thanks for the information, I can see why they are so against him being around their children. I wonder how they would feel if they found out it was Adam he was starting to fancy instead of Holly.

I do like the friendship between Ryan, Aaron, and Adam. They all have good chemistry together as friends.

Does anyone else think that Adam looks like Carsten from GZSZ?

[jnn111]

Another story line to follow ;D

Thanks final81 for the clips!

They definitely have chemistry. Can't wait to see where they go with this story line. I have they both realize their feelings at the same time.

[alicat]

Nov 20, 2009 1:22:24 GMT -5 jnn111 said:

Thanks final81 for the clips!

They definitely have chemistry.

Definitely! final81 has uploaded the ep's from 7th and 9th October, but this one from 8th is worth a look too. Unfortunately it's not edited specifically for Adam/Aaron, but their scenes are from the start until 1:35, and then from 3:50 to the end.



The ep continues here - check out the opening scene, then 5:22 and 6:56:


There was also a nice scene last Friday when Aaron announced he'd passed his driving test, but I've not found that anywhere just yet.

[alicat]

A couple more snippets here - both from the mouth of ED's executive producer Gavin Blyth back in June. More background info rather than jaw dropping, but anyway:

"Aaron's time in the spotlight will come. I really rate Danny [Miller], he's fantastic. What I've really enjoyed with Aaron is rounding him out slightly, in the sense that he's not there just to be a two-dimensional, trouble-causing hoodie. When he makes trouble, he's more entertaining himself, but it causes trouble for others. He'll go through the mill - the long-term story for him is hugely exciting. By the end of this year and into the next, it'll be hard to ignore Aaron." www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/scoop/a159433/exclusive-emmerdale-character-teasers.html

And:

What can you tell us about the new family, the Bartons?
"They're a traditional nuclear family! Yes! God forbid! I think that's a soap first! Stories with younger characters are only relevant if they have a family that they can affect. I don't want to make Emmerdale a show about teenagers and young people, it's about family values. The Bartons are sexy, modern and contemporary. They're almost happy - and in soapland that's quite strange!

"John's a very charismatic and modern farmer who's actually a success. He's not weighed down with the troubles of the land. He'll take farming forward in the show really - it's a modern business to him. It's not all about flat caps and tractors. He's content and exciting and is about more than farming. Moira's beautiful yet homely, and she'll take her place behind the bar in the Woolpack. She's not there to be a farmer's wife - she's independent and supportive of what her husband does. She'll kind of plough her own furrow, to use a farming expression. John and Moira are fairly young parents with the notion that they've been together since they were about 16/17.

"Then the three kids Holly, Adam and Hannah. The kids are great because there's ambition and acceptance of who they are and what they are. Even though they're quite close together in age, they're really different. The Bartons will go forward hand-in-hand with Andy, and it's definitely not the end of the Sugdens farming the land." www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/interviews/a159417/gavin-blyth-series-producer-emmerdale.html

[jazz73]

Thanks for the clips, and info. I knew James Sutton was on this show,but I had never watched it. So I'm just starting to get into it. Watching those clips all I could think was, "Is that John-Paul? Isn't that Maxwell Caufield?!" And when I read that they were farmers,etc. I definitely pictured something different. I do agree they have chemistry, and it would be cool to see a bad boy/good boy love story. Though I must say I like the actor who plays Adam a little better. He seems more natural.

[overtherainbow]

Nov 20, 2009 5:08:40 GMT -5 jazz73 said:

Thanks for the clips, and info. I knew James Sutton was on this show,but I had never watched it. So I'm just starting to get into it. Watching those clips all I could think was, "Is that John-Paul? Isn't that Maxwell Caufield?!" And when I read that they were farmers,etc. I definitely pictured something different. I do agree they have chemistry, and it would be cool to see a bad boy/good boy love story. Though I must say I like the actor who plays Adam a little better. He seems more natural.

Well, I can see why you like Adam. He is more "natural" so to speak. But I found myself more drawn to Aaron, he is a much more complex character. He's a bad boy but it's obvious he's soft on the inside, and he has his problems too. I don't know, I just found Aaron more interesting, maybe it's because I haven't seen enough of Adam yet. It's cool that we will get a gay storyline with a "good guy" and a "bad guy", we don't see that very often. It's very Romeo and Juliet-esque. lol. I have high hopes for this storyline, I think it will be really good. The tension between the families will add to the story too.

Thanks to alicat, carld2 and all the others for the information! Also huge thanks to final81 for uploading this (soon to be) amazing storyline! I can't wait.

[alicat]

Found that yt clip from 13 November that I mentioned earlier - nice bit of contact between the boys at the end

[sheepiefarm]

Thanks for all the extra clips Alicat

The guys were on tonight.
Paddy is away at a conference & trusts Aaron to look after the cottage when he's away. Aaron decides to have a party (in an effort to impress Holly ) and she invites loads of her friends. Adam goes to the party (to watch out for his sisters - little sister Hannah was allowed to go as long as Holly & Adam kept an eye on her)
Aaron gets in a bad mood when he thinks Holly is making fun of him and when her friends bring a sick cat through from the surgery into the party he gets all aggressive - Adam steps in to calm the situation but by that time Aaron is ordering everyone to leave. After everyone leaves they realise the cottage is a mess & Hannah is missing. Moira, Marlon & Andy appear after complaints from the neighbour.....and the rest of the ep is taken up with looking for Hannah (who is found later on very drunk)

A curious ep in some ways - Aaron appears to be chasing Holly but somehow never seems to follow it through - Adam does seem to be "protective" of Aaron and I got the distinct impression that Aaron was aware of that tonight.

The interaction between these two is being played out in a very subtle manner - I like it.

[stl29tide]

Here is today's episode with Aaron and Adam. I know Final81 has been uploading the past episodes on their youtube, so I'm not going to bother with those, but I'll be uploading the new episodes and I think they will as well, so hopefully an episode doesn't get missed in this storyline.